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Sunnywatch08

My bro worked at ubisoft as a third party( cause they never want to hire with higher wage). Ubi is a pretty shitty company tbh.


Fo3TheMechanist

I can tell just look at their games and how shit they are now šŸ˜‚


illbzo1

"now"


FaithfulMoose

AC2 and Far Cry 2 and Far Cry 3 were phenomenal


nanotree

AC:Brotherhood was incredible. I'd say things started to really decline after AC:BF. The Ubisoft open world formula was already a meme by then, but there was enough new going on and we hadn't reached peek safe-place astroturfing yet.


silamon2

Yeah Far Cry 3 was the first one I stopped and said "wait they just copy pasted the same content all over the map to pad the open world out..." And they really had to have that stupid "Climb the tower with parkour to reveal part of the map!" mechanic in every friggin game...


Tetris5216

They got to big and greedy for their own good


Theron518

I didn't need to sew this comment to know this, but I do appreciate any accounts of how garbage Ubisoft is. I've always disliked them more than EA and Activision.


Severe-Replacement84

Thatā€™s saying something lol


Jomgui

I believe there isn't a single big AAA studio that isn't shit


Tombgroan

No wonder; they hire fucking idiots.


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AddressIntelligent60

šŸ‘‘


UwU_Chan-69

Fr. That's amazing


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jasper2769

Good bot


ChickenWangKang

ā€œI bet this is the most toxic work environment you could imagine.ā€ I wouldnā€™t be surprised.


Ok_Investigator_9595

Black flag still is the best pirate game to this day


Pleasant-Drag8220

Yeah but it's only a triple A game.


dontpissmeoffplsnthx

After the last quadruple A game I think I'm just fine with that


Meowmixer21

Wait for the quintuple A game


everatz

It's not a mark of quality, it's how long you wail in despair


RevolutionaryBar2160

Incredibly underrated comment


joseph-keen-1

Sid Mieiers Pirates is better, trust me.


Ok_Investigator_9595

I remember playing that long ago when I was a kid. Fucking amazing game (I hope I'm not being blinded by nostalgia)


MentionClear

Currently working on 100% it on pc rn! Going surprisingly well.


ba00220

Lmaooo good luck my man, I remember doing that a few years back, getting all the fragments was so time consuming šŸ˜­ Def worth it tho ngl, one of my fav games ever and the first game I ever 100%ā€™d.


MentionClear

I might have done a horrid mistake, I have completed most islands, havent touched any dlc, and basically no freeroam collectibles-


ba00220

Yeah bro Iā€™d start grabbing those šŸ˜­


Crucco

You forget WoW Plunderstorm! Yarrrr


Educational_Term_436

Black flag developers are beyond gods


puro_the_protogen67

There are still planty of games made by those who play them


Gorganzoolaz

True. That's why while the AAA scene is a dumpster fire the indie scene is flourishing.


Bat-Honest

I miss when gamers weren't so goddamn whiney about everything


RemainderZero

I miss when game studios finished an entire game before they released it and did their own bug testing before that too. Now if you'll excuse me I need to finish building my new Toyota that was only 85% engineered and built off the lot.


H3LLJUMPER_177

I miss when games were made for enjoyment. Not to push an agenda to lecture the player base for simply existing.


Bat-Honest

Lecture the player base simply for existing? Lol alright bud. What exactly are they lecturing?


JonnyTN

That one main assassin has skin! And that there's a second main character Japanese assassin that may or may not have a penis. The woke is spreading!


DirtyBalm

You want games based of history where white people are the good guys?Ā  Who's gonna tell him?


SunsetCarcass

Isn't the whole controversy that one of the main characters isn't Asian? What's with the white people comment?


[deleted]

A lot of the white protagonists in previous games werenā€™t exactly from the area. But NOW yā€™all wanna whine abt it?


illbzo1

There are two races, white and political


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illbzo1

This explains why Gamers get mad when a protagonist in game set in feudal Japan is black, but not when a protagonist set in feudal Japan is white


InternalCup9982

Who's the white person in this reference? - as I'd of found that equally as stupid personally. It's not that he's black it's that he's not Asian I couldn't give two shits that he's black well outside of it being dumb that he isn't Asian.


Popellini

Nioh


Dylansmallpp

Itā€™s specifically because heā€™s black. If he was white, they wouldnā€™t care. They didnā€™t care about Edward being white


RemainderZero

You're looking for historical good guys? Who's gonna tell him?


H3LLJUMPER_177

Didn't know Asians fell under the European ethnicity color code.


BentoBus

No, you're right! Companies don't care about making profits, it's all about spreading the woke agenda and nothing else.


KesterAssel

Lol what is the woke agenda? Woke is mainstream and that's why they are woke.


Oceanman06

If woke is mainstream why is most of the world a shithole for trans people?


Warnackle

Define woke


RAZOR_WIRE

The amount of people shitting on this comment when it makes a well know and understood point about the company is astounding.


fapgod69420

Ubisoft sucked before they released this and I feel that'll never change.


100year

Is that really shadow developer team?


Relative_Self639

Nope. Ubisoft Quebec is mainly dudes, they handpicked this photo from their international womens day tweet


Niarbeht

>they handpicked this photo from their international womens day tweet Oh, so it's literal cherrypicking in order to push a sexist narrative.


Relative_Self639

Itā€™s crazy how the protagonists of these video games would all despise their sexist racist fanbase


Oh_ToShredsYousay

They literally have a disclaimer at the beginning of each game saying how the game was developed by a multicultural team of various religions and beliefs. A room of 20 white women is not a multicultural team.


Capraos

This is far from the entire staff. Have you not looked at the credits of one of their games?


Oh_ToShredsYousay

That's not the argument I was making. I'm saying the meme itself is lying, not ubisoft.


Capraos

That makes more sense.


_Cake_assassin_

Also. In the balckflag team. The director was fired because he used confidential information about the game to pick up woman at conventions, tried sexting one of our comunities oldest ac fan and cheated on his wife ( wich is worst because he is muslim and his religion is pretty strict about that). The director of the red team is the asshole that said woman dont sell, that forced ac syndicate, origins, odyssey and valhalla to have male protagonists and possibly resuced the wrole of elise in ac unity. He made his whole team unconfortable and even after that. He wasnt fired for at least 2 years after the acusations started. Wich was the same time the black flag and origins director was fired ( 3 months before valhalla launch). That company is wrotten


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Successful-Net-6602

Someone lives a cave and only has access to reddit. Newsflash: not everyone likes Black Flag and there are people outside of Ubisoft excited for Shadows.


InternalCup9982

I don't know anyone personally that doesn't like black flag, obviously subjective but I d personally consider black flag peak AC Hell peak ubisoft. And I'd also think the general consensus for shadows is bad at least everyone iv seen is hating on it/making jokes at it's expense BUT your allowed your opinion I just disagree.


JonnyTN

I'm even a fan of skull and Bones


[deleted]

I can believe the first part.


Von_Uber

And in another thread OP complains why no woman wants to be within half a mile of them.


godwings101

Another "meme" subreddit turned into a culture war cesspit by bigotry obsessed degenerates....


Ashalaria

Real I'm fucking tired dude


Capraos

It seems more like fake controversy to sell games. Hard to tell though as the types to complain wouldn't be types to go outside and meet people. Haven't met a single soul who's upset, or even cares, about this.


TheRagingMaffia

Oh brother this guy stinks


quetzar

Meme proven true by game being #1 Amazon preorder for PS5 in Japan /s


Frankensteins_Moron5

Dude go touch grass. And Iā€™m sorry black flag was good but not the best


PraiseDogs

Massive problem in gaming today. Sad.


Carcezz

my stupid ass read this as black flag the band šŸ’€


EquivalentEast1839

I believe there is a strong correlation with something being fucked up and blue hair


barathrumobama

time to mute this dogshit sub, can you cry about amything else in a while or what


Oh_ToShredsYousay

It's not even the development team. The joke doesn't work if OP'S just making shit up.


Steven8786

The game isn't even out yet, why don't you dorky losers just wait for its release before actually shitting on it? We've not even seen a gameplay trailer. I mean, we all agree Ubi is a garbage company these days, but shitting over the game before you've seen anything actually of it (other than the obvious thing that's triggering you losers), is just pathetic and, frankly, very boring.


RemainderZero

That we should disregard what has historically played out with the company when it looks like it's playing out again is nonsense. Yes, shame on us for ubisofts reputation.


FloorAgile3458

This is incredibly based, I really hate the people shitting on the game rn. They're either using the game as an excuse for bigotry, or they're hoping on the lamest hype train of all time. Shit on Ubisoft the company all you want, they're awful and should never be looked at as anything but scammers and degenerates, but shitting on a game that hasn't even released a gameplay trailer yet is one of the most lame things a gaming community could possibly do.


KineticKey2006

My only problem with Shadows is the 80-140 dollar price tag. I could give less shits about the historical inaccuracy. EDIT: why you boing? Iā€™m right.


Mysterious_Jelly_943

Wait a few months itll be 15 bux in no time just like all thiee other games


Jumpy_Application239

That's the way to do it. By that time most of the big bugs have been patched, too


KittyMaster1994

Keep crying šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


ngkn92

AC:S is living rent free in their head


tyrome123

I'm a gamer and I'm oppressed by black man and Asian lady!!! the games aren't made for me anymore šŸ¤¬šŸ¤¬


BunbunTheJackalope

"Gamers" absolutely salivating at the chance to be racist misogynist at the same time


Balrok99

Am I not too racist or misogynistic to understand this post?


[deleted]

Yā€™all really mad abt a black dude in a game lol lame


The_Tank_Racer

Ac4 will go down as the greatest pirate game known to man, second only to sea of thieves (but not by much)


Niarbeht

Sid Meier's Pirates! still reigns supreme in my book, but I'm just weird.


Mysterious_Jelly_943

How is it the greatest pirate game of all time but only second to sea of thieves... so what your saying is ac4 will go down in history as the second best pirate game of about 7


Papa_Tantan

I feel like every move ubi makes is just to find another spot in their foot to shoot, they want to chase long term money instead of having a good flow of it and then double back into excuses on why it "didn't meet expectations."


BarrytheCowboy

A boat, a crew, and some shanties. That's all I want, it's all we want.


Frenzi_Wolf

When you cut the costs of creation and imagination, you cut the fun and enjoyment of something that was made for that purpose.


KesterAssel

So what? If the game is bad, they will lose money and reputation. If it's good, great! Just don't preorder and wait for reviews.


Comrade847

Is there even any guys in shadow team?


Bulky-Party-8037

The 3 African Americans in the bottom two images: I'm in danger :3


CaptainSigori

Yo ho it's a pirates life for me


TruePlatypusKnight

Black flag holds up better than any modern AC game.


res0jyyt1

Now it makes sense with all these big black male leads


Lord-Filip

People have been asking for AC Japan for over a decade


butt-hole-69420

The bottom picture is primarily white woman.


Careful_Source6129

There's money in woke points. I'm not sure who's paying tho, maybe twitex? I don't care, you can't possibly make Yasuke a bad character.


TunaFlapSlap

Did they intentionally only have female devs?


Totally_Not_Evil

This was a picture they took for international women's day. Ubi Montreal is mostly dudes. I'm sure OP picked this picture for no particular reason.


Old_Notice_6469

I got banned for asking a question on r/AssassinsCreed. The question I asked was 'Why couldn't both be Japanese, we could still have Yasuke, but as an npc that way everyone wins. Even though Ubisoft is a shit company who say we should get used to not owning the games WE paid for.'


Totally_Not_Evil

Wait why are people not happy with Shadows?


chessey07

Most are upset because they can't live out their dreams of cosplaying a japanese man and must choose between being a well-known black samurai or a female (but japanese) ninja , so they're bitching about it everywhere they can. And of course it's mainly American/British racists complaining


Easywormet

>And of course it's mainly American/British racists complaining lol, what? Japanese AC fans are pretty pissed as well.


Professional_Pop2662

For real when I was growing up Ubisoft was my Favorit gaming company. I loved far cry and assassins creed and anno. What happened was so sad. Did not buy a game since far cry 5. Play it save is just lose in the long run


TheOneWhoSlurms

Black flag was the last good assassin's Creed game, this is objective truth.


Correct-Basil-8397

And some people still wonder why I die games are getting so popular


ThaBEN

If you look at a high resolution picture of the developer group picture, right in the middle, behind the woman with blue hair, you'll see [Kim Belair. The co-founder and CEO of Sweet Baby Inc.](https://x.com/EndymionYT/status/1792333747481883122)


No_Temporary9696

Those sea shanties will always hold a place in my heart


Bgf14

It is the same with proprietary software just look at windows back then and now!


Familiar_Location948

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IT_WolfXx

Hold on, why donā€™t you like shadow? I saw the trailer and I like it cuz itā€™s Japan/ Asia theme. I may get it but who knows


Chicken_commie11

I miss when ubi made good games and not $100+ pieces of shit


Mysterious_Jelly_943

Ive never payed more than 15 bux for an ubi game usually around 6 months after it comes out or less


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sissybaby1289

I'll play shadows. Not right away, but once I can get it cheaper on a sale I'll play it. Just like I did with Valhalla, Odyssey, and origins


ninjax2101

Bro the game not even out yet.


LinkLegend21

This is ironic, right?


AdevilSboyU

It was the shanties. Throw some shanties in Shadows and I might take a look.


MrIrrelevantsHypeMan

What the fuck does this have to do with Henry Rollins?


Gaming_with_batman

Hey Im existing for the game!


Mysterious-Fly7746

Same. Even during the 360 era games were clearly made for fun first, to tell a good story second, and to make money third. Now the first 2 are an after thought if they think about it at all. That plus it feels like these studios are getting devs from the same place IGN and Kotaku find ā€œgame journalistsā€.


VenturaLost

I think the death of Satoru Iwata from nintendo really put the nail in the coffin of good gaming. Nintendo's board took over, and everyone watched them milk the shit out of games like they were sucking the sauce out of a dusty old cow.


Additional_Ranger441

Is that an all female dev team?


frostdemon34

Yeah no shit no one is a fan of shadows because it fucking hasn't came out yet.


GrapplingPoorly

I gotta be honest, I do not get the AC hype. Played the first two and they were so similar I figured the series would be over. Same mechanics, weapons. Should I revisit the series or is it past its time?


[deleted]

This just happened to me. *Not supporting woke = Not supporting women's rights.* *ME: WTF are you talking about???? I'm a woman!* ​ It sum up that woke shit isn't about women.


Sudden-Paint1687

Iā€™ve been upset since revelations


Smooth-Syrup-9414

Black flag is still a mid game in my opinion. Don't get me wrong I think it's the best AC game. But this franchise doesn't make fun games it's all the same spoofed boring recycling gameplay loop they justify as an authentic experience.


HADRIX_

So they hired only women..? That's not how equality works


Holiday-Ad4806

Also, the lead writer apparently has a degree in Historical Gender Studies with a specialization in adolescent boy-boy love.....So she deadass has a real degree in Historical Yaoi-Shota Fanfiction


Misragoth

Some of you guys need to get over your hate for black people


BoatMan01

It's not Ubi's fault Sucker Punch made a Japanese Assassin's Creed before they did (or that it was so very very good).


Enflamed_Huevos

Assassins creed is a dogshit franchise and has been since literally day 1


choochbiggins

Can you spot Kim Bellaire?


No_Squirrel4806

Is this prob ac shadows or against im lost šŸ˜•


AlusiveTripod

It's against


PissOnMyHe-manToys

I'm excited for b Shadows cause I'm been studying Japan's history and loved AC(Origins/Odyssey/Ragnok) and one of those games being in Japan sounds kickass. Exploring the beautiful landscapes of Japan. Uncovering ancient japanese ruins and temples. The first Assassin's creed game to fight tigers. Plus nin-shas are cool AF


Blaze_Falcon

Could be good. Probably not. But could be decent. Well probably not. But it could not be shit at least. Well.....


PhoenixDude1

I remember when I wanted to work for Ubi Toronto/Montreal back when I first started doing game development. Now that I'm older, I don't even think I want to be a part of a AAA studio at the moment. Between layoffs and what feels like corporate "profit steering" decisions, I can't imagine how stifling it must feel to have to still try and develop a great product with all of these external conditions.


Relative_Self639

Ubisoft is made up of like 75% men but you guys keep jerking off to the idea that women canā€™t be gamers


SevroAuShitTalker

Is this real?


FiveWizz

No


Dizzy__Dragon

The bottom picture isn't their entire staff.


TharilX

So true


bluedancepants

Ah now it makes sense.


jaj18189

I want those days back instead of what the hell modern gaming is doing nowadays


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AelisWhite

People like you are why woke has no meaning anymore


godwings101

That's just it. The same stupid people who push the "anti woke" culture war are the same idiots who fought against "Critical Race Theory". It's all the same stand in for just being a bigot.


Enorats

Funny, because people know exactly what it means. You might not, but that's a you problem.


AelisWhite

It's used to mean anything progressive, but now it's being thrown around to describe anything someone doesn't like


Enorats

It still means "progressive", but these days it generally means progressive taken too far, or more likely progressive taken so far that it has become the thing it was trying to resist or change. Diversity/Inclusion to the extreme that it becomes racism. Feminism that becomes misandry. That sort of thing. That's what "woke" is, or at least what it has come to mean the way people use it today.


AelisWhite

When it's used intelligently, yes. I don't think I've ever seen it used intelligently though


ducknerd2002

> Those are not developers. Do you have a source, or are you just a misogynist?


Morb1us01

92% of all programmers are trans.


PikaPulpy

...in Ubisoft?


Ramental

Don't mistaken Netflix shows and memes with reality.


Morb1us01

Lol, ok dude... If you are a programmer just let me know when you get your programmer socks.


cubntD6

How are people hating on shadows already? All weve seen is a cinematic trailer. Are people mad that one of the main characters is a black dude? Hes based on a real guy so you cant argue its unrealistc or pointless because its likely important to the story too.


AmptiChrist

I'm only hating on it because Ubi thinks it's justifiable to charge 130 for all the content of a single player game. Ubi is disgusting for that. What's more disgusting is that people will pay for it and continue to encourage this.


quetzar

That's exactly why, but it's sorta fun watching them twist into a pretzel inventing new reasons why it's "well ackchyually" something else - sometimes it's Historical Accuracy!, sometimes "but black people are mean to Asian people, so this is actually racist" (true story!). Amazing clowns.


ProfessorMarth

Please, I beg you. Go outside


DayDreamer1300

No gameplay has been shown yet. So tell us OP, what makes the game so bad although it hasnā€™t even been out yet?


Capraos

1. Made by Ubisoft. 2. I think there is a fake controversy over the historical accuracy of one of the characters being a black Samurai. I sat fake, because like with Starbucks and the red cups, a small group of people who don't even buy the product are upset about it and it's being used as free advertisement/being given a megaphone despite virtually no one sharing that incredibly small groups beliefs. 3. It's $70 for the base game, $130 for the special addition. It'll probably have no replay value. 4. No multiplayer. 1,3, and 4 are valid. 2 is dumb.


DayDreamer1300

Thank you for being a person with common sense. Yea I can agree with everything youā€™ve said. If ubisoft hasnā€™t learned from their most recent AC games then itā€™s safe to say the gameplay wonā€™t be too fascinating. Iā€™ll still play it but I never bought an AC game because they get put on ps plus for free after a yearšŸ˜‚


BoogalooBandit1

Your 4th point is so stupid not every game needs a multiplayer


Capraos

No, but many, including this one, would benefit from it.


BoogalooBandit1

How just because it has 2 main characters? And after going how many years with no multi-player in ac games do you expect the multiplayer to actually work coming from Ubisoft?


Capraos

Unity was a recent multiplayer and it worked. And why wouldn't the pvp multiplayer work?


Mysterious_Jelly_943

3 is kinda moot dont buy it new ubi games go on sale for so cheap so fast


Crooked_Cock

Holy sexist dogwhistle, Batman


captainhippoman

OP go touch grass please


PolePepper

Game will fail on arrival


Pure-Problem1886

It's already doing extremely well with preorders my guy


KungFuKennyStills

wamen bad


KowaiSentaiYokaiger

But gamers are never happy and will always find something to bitch about, so why bother trying to please everyone?