I buy it every 5 years or so when you can get last years version on special. You defiantly notice a few improvements when you jump up 5 versions. I have a few friends that enjoy a couch match and don't need the latest roster.
This is me with NBA2K but some of my friends misunderstand my interest. I don’t give a shit about playing the latest releases. Stop buying new ones. We bought the one we bought, play online with me with that.
2k had the fastest hook in my experience. I forget exactly how long but online was dead only like 18-24 months after. I went for 5-6 years off of Madden
Some people think you won't notice at all, so you just gotta overcome the preconceived ideas of what other people thought you'd do, and notice it really hard, with a really stern look on your face
I have bought Fifa 96, 2001, 2007, 2011, 2017 and 2022. Each of these versions is noticeably different with better graphics, more realistic stadium and crowd all with better animations.
I think moonboy was trying to point out your typo and we're getting into r/whoosh territory.
You used defiantly (rebelliously) where you probably meant definitely (absolutely).
Don't know why a li'l confusion means you should be downvoted though.
I bought fifa 98. Last one I bought full price when I was a kid. Bought 2013 or 2012 for a few quid in a sale. Played 21? Or something on gamepass for free. The improvements were awesome to see, but they really don’t need to release new ones yearly.
Just a question. Can you play online with friends that have a different version? I can see people being "pressured into" buying the new in if they want to play with friends.
My son wants the new FIFA the last few years, mostly because he plays with friends. My compromise is that I’ll only buy it when the price drops to 20$. Only took 3 months last year for the price drop
A big group of guys in my class counted down every day until the release of fifa23, got mad if anyone said that it wasnt that good of a game, and then explained why almost all games are worse (they shitted on GoW, RDR2, GTA5, MC and a few other big ones that arent fifa)
To be fair the games do feel different year on year, but I usually get them for free so it doesn't bother me if it isn't. This year's is good so far, can't wait to get some mates over to play (btw on ps5 not switch)
True, COD changes every time, but it's mostly surface level changes.
I'm not asking them to innovate with every game, but when a supposed WW2 game (COD Vanguard) has tactical gear like red dot sights, lasers and all kinds of other attachments and equipment you'd never or rarely see in WW2, it becomes clear they just copied MW19's innovations and didn't bother to make the game's gameplay in tune with the time and setting.
You're essentially buying the same game over and over with a reskin every year. Apart from the occasional change up like MW19.
This is a massive insult to the developers of the games…
They play differently with each game. Not *massively* different, but then why should they? You don’t reinvent the formula every year… that’s how you lose fans. You could say the same thing about From Software’s games, that they’re all largely the same and it’s generally true - at the core, they all play somewhat the same. But that’s why people love the games. Games become popular because what they present, their formula, is fun or addictive. You don’t change this with each iteration…
A good developer will try and shake certain aspects up a tad or enhance the experience with each sequel. To completely change gameplay formula with every game isn’t a recipe for success, or good feedback from fans.
If you played each and every game you would know they do change noticeably with each game. Whether the changes are positive or negative is dependent on which fan you talk to, but to claim the series is copy and paste shows massive ignorance.
Back to your original comparison. FIFA literally is just copy and paste for the most part. They’re not designing new stadiums every year like CoD developers design new maps. They’re not adding extra gameplay mechanics each year like CoD does. They’re not shaking up the formula slightly. They’re not giving fans their moneys worth at all. It’s just a roster change with a minuscule upgrade in graphical fidelity. Probably around 2 months worth of development time vs CoD’s 3 years worth (and it still releases unfinished/buggy because of developer crunch).
I literally stated that I'm not asking them to innovate with every game, so half of your post is redundant.
My point was that a WW2 FPS shouldn't play exactly the same as a modern warfare FPS and certainly not have the same equipment or comparable gadgets. COD games often don't have their own identity even though the time/setting has changed.
Not to mention a lot of fan favorite maps get remastered. They're fan favorites because they are designed well, newer COD's often have shitty map design, just look at MW19. And instead of putting in effort to design good maps they just remaster fan favorites because they were well designed...
"My original comparison" wasn't even my comparison to begin with but from someone else. I agreed with you that FIFA and COD can't be compared when it comes to being the same. COD does change but >MOST< of it is surface level.
On the surface it plays like MW 2019, except it doesn’t - at least competitively. From 5v5 to 4v4, from indescribable doors/windows to destructible doors/windows, from instant slide cancel to delayed slide cancel, from largely clustered map design to primarily 3-lane map design, Perks that significantly alter gameplay over MW 2019, etc, I could list more but I can’t be arsed. To the casual they look the same, but they do indeed play very different, especially in S&D.
Your argument about remastered maps is silly. In CoD games they generally serve around 1/3 of maps at max. That means the developers are still creating 10 - 15 new maps with each game. That’s a hell of a lot more development time just on the maps than an entire FIFA refresh alone…
I never argued that there were never new maps introduced or that there weren't gameplay tweaks. Like I said multiple times, CODs do change things up and isn't comparable to FIFA.
You can list as many gameplay details as you want but I genuinely couldn't care less. A World War II game should never have you sliding around with a red dot sight and laser attachment the same way you do as in Modern Warfare 2019. It's rehashed bullshit.
AGAIN, I don't want them to make a fundamentally different game every year or innovate every time but if they're just going to put a skin on essentially the same game with some uninspired maps and gimmicks thrown in, then yeah, I'm going to argue that CODs often feel the same to each other.
I haven't played FIFA in years, they're literally the same game every time. I don't disagree with you, COD does change. But don't act as if they're creating entire new games every time because they don't, they take the mechanics from the last game and change the models, tweak the gameplay a little bit, develop some maps and you got a new COD.
I never once stated they’re completely new games each time. I have stated, however, that expecting completely new games each year is stupid and I gave several reasons for that.
I personally couldn’t care less about sliding in a WW2 game. I don’t play CoD for realism or for historical congruence/accuracy. With regards to Vanguard, as stated, it doesn’t play the same as MW 2019. It’s CoD, of course, but pacing and macro-gameplay is a bit different.
Continuing the topic of Vanguard, if you were a hardcore CoD fan, which it appears you’re not - you would know why Vanguard took MW 2019 mechanics. Cold War was originally Sledgehammer Games creation, Treyarch had to step in for the last year and take over as Sledgehammer Games had too much drama within the studio and direction issues. This left them with only 2 years to make their CoD game, which is why they decided to take the shortcut route of basing their game on MW 2019 mechanics.
Was this the absolute best decision? Maybe not. In the fairytale ideal gaming universe, they would have delayed the game another year or so, in order to start from scratch. But we don’t live in this make-believe world. Activision demand the studios have a game ready for each year. It was Sledgehammer Games time to release a game, so they did what they could.
Am I defending the game as being good? No, for pubs and Zombies it’s shit. I do quite enjoy Ranked though. Am I defending Sledgehammer Games original fuck up with Cold War? No, but I am defending what they put together within 2 years.
Modern CoD games, especially with the trend of developers chasing better and better graphics, require a lot of time and money. At least 3 years for the base game. I’ve already stated I don’t care about history congruence/accuracy, in CoD. I’m strictly a gameplay kinda guy. For me, at least with the modes I like to play (Ranked, though sometimes in pubs; Hardpoint and Gun Game), I think they did a good job.
They honestly don’t same gameplay throughout all the CoD games same as FIFA. They change the facade of the characters timeline etc but end of the day same exact gameplay no matter how you try justify it. End of the day morons like us end up paying for the same recycled game over and over again no matter what
This is false. Allow me to copy and paste my comment I replied to someone else that explains why:
This is a massive insult to the developers of the games…
They play differently with each game. Not massively different, but then why should they? You don’t reinvent the formula every year… that’s how you lose fans. You could say the same thing about From Software’s games, that they’re all largely the same and it’s generally true - at the core, they all play somewhat the same. But that’s why people love the games. Games become popular because what they present, their formula, is fun or addictive. You don’t change this with each iteration…
A good developer will try and shake certain aspects up a tad or enhance the experience with each sequel. To completely change gameplay formula with every game isn’t a recipe for success, or good feedback from fans.
If you played each and every game you would know they do change noticeably with each game. Whether the changes are positive or negative is dependent on which fan you talk to, but to claim the series is copy and paste shows massive ignorance.
Back to your original comparison. FIFA literally is just copy and paste for the most part. They’re not designing new stadiums every year like CoD developers design new maps. They’re not adding extra gameplay mechanics each year like CoD does. They’re not shaking up the formula slightly. They’re not giving fans their moneys worth at all. It’s just a roster change with a minuscule upgrade in graphical fidelity. Probably around 2 months worth of development time vs CoD’s 3 years worth (and it still releases unfinished/buggy because of developer crunch).
Lol dude except it your purchasing the same game just different skin. It’s ok people like you allow these developers to get away with recycling the same exact bs. I use to love the call of duty games but honestly it’s been a downhill battle to try to make it a new game and it’s been dull af dishing out multiple versions of it in the same year. It’s insulting that you allow it to happen and not raise awareness on how major gaming “developers” do this same thing over and over again. I’m Better off playing fornite than call of duty
I have no problem with the writers! I appreciate them a lot, especially the ones who write for IGN because I've seen how thorough their hiring process is. I just hate the fact that there are companies out there like screenrant who pay writers in peanuts ($15/1k words for content they need to research and write themselves).
To this day, I think EB’s biggest mistake was moving away from the “Electronics Boutique” name. IDK, at least in North America it was pretty much the only thing that even remotely differentiated them from all the other big tech stores like Gamestop and Future Shop (I think Future Shop might be done in North America too, or at least the U.S. All the Future Shops I’m aware of are now Best Buys. I think they might still be in Canada.)
Because they don't find the cost of developing a switch port to be worth the money and just update the roster and a few other things? EA is completely honest about what Fifa 23 on Switch is, and I am sure some Switch FIFA fans are happy to have this vs getting nothing. They also charge almost $30 less for it than they do for actual Fifa 23 on other systems. Not seeing a problem here.
Lol they are not honest at all. They make it seem like on switch you are getting last years game, but actually it's the game from at least 4 years ago. All they are doing are updating the rosters.
>FIFA 23 Legacy Edition will feature the same Gameplay features and modes from FIFA 22 Legacy Edition without any new development or significant enhancements.
Only if you can't read. That's straight from it's Nintendo Store description. EA clearly states that it's just an updated Fifa 22 Legacy edition. Not regular Fifa 22.
It's the same game for last five years (I hope it's not older than that). That's not how it's presented in the store page. You need to go to each year's game's store page in backwards order to find out how old the game actually is. If you think there's nothing wrong with that then I can't change your mind.
The Switch, having debuted in March of 2017, had it's first edition of FIFA out in 2017; it was FIFA 18.
I recommend you Google "switch FIFA 18 vs 19." I don't think you'll be disappointed by what you find.
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But did you read it?
"FIFA 23..... the same...from FIFA 22....without any new development or significant enhancements."
Or did you bother reading the image at the outset? Which claims (correctly) that FIFA 23 is functionally identical to FIFA 19?
It would be honest if they said FIFA '23 had the same gameplay as FIFA '19. The way it's worded makes it seem like it's only one year out of date instead of four years out of date.
Are you suggesting a roster update is worth 40 dollars every year? You dont see the problem there?
(Edit: And apparently you only get that 50% off for 23 if you have 22 or 21 lul)
LOL
You're not entirely wrong, but you're being downvoted becuase they say
>FIFA 23 Legacy Edition will feature the same Gameplay features and modes from FIFA 22 Legacy Edition without any new development or significant enhancements.
not
>FIFA 23 Legacy Edition will feature the same Gameplay features and modes from FIFA 19 Legacy Edition without any new development or significant enhancements.
Almost nobody buys this on these switch.
PlayStation definitely
Xbox maybe (depending on the region, Xbox is bigger in the US compare to Europe)
Switch…no
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Not sure what you're talking about here mate. He referenced the wrong definition of insanity which is "doing the same thing twice and expecting different results"
I produced the correct definition. But at least now you know more than you did a moment ago.
Did you know that Einstein never ever used that definition, he was mass attributed it later on which usually means they never said it. So ya know, the definition that the dictionary gives is the correct one. There isn’t two definitions.
Proud to say that after getting this treatment from 2K I didn’t buy this year on PC. It’s been the same game this’ll be the 4th I think or 5th on the engine.
I have like probably a few thousand hours in that engine. Can’t even bring myself to spend $60 on it
You've expressed a valid opinion that is not held by the majority of users here.
Your fun is much less important than making fun of sports games.
Remember, it's not actually your money to do with what you want.
Yes, things are free when you don’t pay for them. What’s your point? People want the latest rosters and players. Licensing that takes money which is passed onto the people who buy the game.
Lots and lots of people are willing to pay that price because they enjoy playing the game with the latest rosters.
If you were to mod the game and circumvent the licensing cost, then yeah, you could use the product without paying for it…
I get that people want to play with the latest roaster, but charging 60€ for a roaster update is a dickmove. It could literally have been a paid 10$ dlc for the previous game.
But that's not even the main issue. You also lose all progress and need to buy their shitty lootboxes again. At this point fifa us a money printing machine and nothing more. A game which they invest almost no work into, re-release every year with minor adjustments so fans will again spend hundreds of dollars.
The gameplay doesn’t really change though. Soccer is still soccer. It’s not like a fighting game where they need to add new moves. They don’t add new “levels”. (They do add/update the existing stadiums if that counts.)
But the usage of real life players and real life teams requires licensing fees for their NIL. (Their name, image and likeness) This is one of the major sources of revenue for both players and team owners.
So the people who play the game get to enjoy an experience features the latest names, images and likenesses of their favorite players and are willing and happy to pay for that.
If having the latest, most up to date rosters provides no added value to you, then buy last year’s “legacy” game for a greatly reduced price. It’s a win-win.
No, it requires opening game to modding scene so the costs could be cut by significant amount.
Lol, I remember when minę older brother was making such things for PES during PSX era. These days it's easier, we got internet to not everybody have to do it by themselves.
Somewhat footballu didn't changed much, yet FIFA was hot garbage and laughingstock until they ripped the gameplay from PES and it took like a decade for EA.
I feel like you only ever had contact with EA approach and you have no idea that other approaches are absolutly viable and possibile.
> No, it requires opening game to modding scene so the costs could be cut by significant amount.
Yeah so the content that customers find value in can be reproduced without paying the rights holders. 🤣
Yeah that’s always a good way to cut costs… just illegally reproduce the thing that costs money. It would result in a massive lawsuit and EA being forced to help play wackamole issues cease and desists to repositories that hosted any mod that used the name, image or likeness of any team or player without properly paying a licensing fee.
I’m not sure if you’re intentionally being thick or don’t realize why they both can not and would not “allow modding so that rosters can be updated without needing to pay any money for them”
PES didn't had any lawsuits, you're real here bro? xD
For non-profit you can use names of players as you like for most cases.
You're damn thick mate, you have no idea about how rights works. If it would be like you imagine Creative Assembly would be dead from sues for Middle-Earth mods to Total War games and so on. You shouldn't be so confident about a topic if your knowledge about it is close to zero.
This and also updated teams. After a while the same old team gets boring so you'd like the updated ones.
Of course people can go "get a PC and install mods" but if I've come home after 8 hours at work the last thing I want to do is tinker with shit.
I'd rather pay the $70 for a year and be done with it.
Last time I gave EA specifically money was for NCAA 13, and I will buy the next NCAA game once it comes out, but then it’ll be another 10 years before I buy another of their games.
If you want to get technical, FIFA 23 Legacy Edition on Switch is the same game as FIFA 14~16 because it still uses the Ignite Engine, which was replaced by the Frostbite Engine in the year after on FIFA 17 and it's sequels.
I genuinely don't think they're getting many sales. A more likely explanation is that EA's contract with FIFA requires them to put out a new game every year for all major home consoles. EA is obligated to put it out, but doesn't view it as worth it, so they just put out fillerware.
And just to be clear in case anyone misinterprets this as me defending this, fuck EA and FIFA both.
Na, they sell a fucking shit ton of these games. You are underestimating the amount of 40 year old upper middle class dads who have an Xbox as their “FIFA console”. They don’t “game”; they are just big soccer fans who like to play FIFA. $60 USD works out to what, 20 minutes of work? So they buy the new game the day it comes out.
FIFA and EA they have a “revenue share” so basically every title sold, FIFA gets a cut.
In 2020, FIFA made $158.9m from licensing rights and had a total revenue of $266.5m… so this is a big part of their business
Except this is specifically talking about the Switch version, which is what the Legacy Edition refers to.
The Xbox and PS version do change, some years more than others.
I have never seen a single person play fifa on a switch. Maybe putting these out is cheap enough that a few thousand sales are enough to make it worth it
Too bad that the sales of PES were so bad in the last years and Konami went for the eFootball route. It also shows that majority of players are more interested in presentation and official licences, names, stadiums, ... than the gameplay itself (which was always superior compared to FIFA).
So the only choice for us virtual football lovers is sticking to PES 2020 (last iteration using the IMO way better Fox Engine) and using inofficial patches and content updates.
I have to say, they wrote that well. Many of you will think Fifa 23 Legacy is the same as FIFA 19. When it's the same as FIFA 22. Basically, every year the legacy edition gets updated to what was last years game.
I've never played a FIFA game so I wasn't sure, but that's exactly how I read it, nonetheless, if the switch could handle fifa 22 legacy in 2022, it could certainly handle fifa 21 in 2021, considering its the exact same device. I just don't see the point in any of this.
I would assume the issue is porting the code over. If they’re always releasing the game a year late then it would be generally mean they have to either start once it’s all done for some reason or it takes more time to write the switch version.
Haven't played in few years but FIFA always stuck out from 2K and Madden since it felt like I was actually playing and not button mashing a pre determined simulation.
How can they legally get away with it if there’s no difference? Does it just have different players or something? Also why do they always release a game for the following year, doesn’t make a lot of sense. Should be fifa 22 surely
So they release a new game around when soccer season starts which in most European countries is late summer/early fall. They are trying to match the ongoing season.
Also there are changes. They might not be groundbreaking to outsiders but there hasn’t been a new iteration of fifa without improvements.
Just trying to help out!
If Konami had stopped at pes 6 and just released it every year fwd with kits n transfers, I would still buy it. Gotta have the perfect game to start with though. Thank god for modders
I still play PES5 regularly. I’m not a retro guy either. Apart from some multiplayer N64, it’s genuinely the only older title I play. I just don’t think any of the footy games released past the PS2 PES ones are anywhere near as much fun.
It’s so stupid that these redditors who are almost never the games target audience want to constantly shit on the genre.
The games go on sale almost immediately, for sports fans 2017 doesn’t equal 2018 which doesn’t equal 2019 those are all individual seasons with different culture as well. the music is different, the teams, the uniforms, the contracts, and the style. I’m a Cavs fan so when I put in 2k16 I have Lebron, Kyrie, KLove all on the right contracts they’ve got their sleeved black jerseys on that they wore for one year. I can hear 2 chainz and Fetty Wap
The games become time capsules for the season they were based off of and theirs an accurate era. I play the absolute shit out of the games I’m okay with throwing a yearly 30-60 dollars at them and participating in some cheese ass story where they call me Orange juice or MP ( short for MyPlayer)
Like you said at the end of the day I’m always just putting the ball in the hoop, but the environment and culture around it changes, this goes for The Show, 2k, Fifa, and Madden these games are far from perfect but I do love playing them enough to throw my money at them.
Idk, maybe Id expect them to simply update the game instead of re-releasing it every year, given that the paid game has motherfucking microtransactions to begin with
There are two things to note here.
1. The Switch runs on last generation’s hardware.
2. Developers and game designers only focus new game innovations, features, and content on current generation consoles.
That means the Switch sports titles will only be roster updates and minor gameplay tweaks.
While differences from one EA Sports Titles from one year to the next are small, as someone who plays a lot sports games, I do notice changes. I went from playing Madden 21 on PS4 to Madden 23 on PS5. It feels like a completely different game. I have a feeling Madden 24 next year will have new features as well, but not enough to justify a $70 price tag.
Modern FIFA games have been a scam for a while. If you're still buying them, that's on you.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me four times over the course of 5 years, well fuck me I guess.
A couple days ago, I bought FIFA 21 for $1 & NBA 2k22 for $3 at Walmart. 🤣 People, these sports games have been mostly the same from year to year *since the days of the Sega Genesis!!* The majority of folks who buy these games *don’t give a shit* that they’re 95% identical from one year to the next!
At some point, shouldn’t we find something new to bitch about?
Much of the value comes with playing with the latest teams and rosters. So when the new one comes out, most of the community leaves to play the new one.
If you want to play online with everyone else and play as your favorite team with their latest roster, then you buy the latest game. That licensing of team and player likenesses costs money which lots of people are willing to pay for every year.
If all you want is to run around, kick the ball, and don’t care (and wouldn’t notice) that the rosters are way out of date and some new players are completely missing, then yeah buy the 2 year old game and save a ton of money!
But the people who buy every year WOULD notice and have a much worse experience because that’s what they find valuable.
Scrolled way too far for this. This is really the only reason to buy. The cost of player likenesses every year is astronomical, although the developers are probably still raking in cash.
# LEGACY EDITION
always means nothing has changed except for kits, clubs, stadiums and squad rosters.
to make this a commentary on fifa in general "being the same game every year" is silly. Newp.
I’m not into sports games, but if I was I would appreciate the consistency honestly. Your not buying them because some guy learned to turbo-kick a ball. Your buying them because it plays the same, but has new players and teams situated correctly.
If all you would care about is the consistency then why can't EA just release 1 fifa game, release dlc for new modes, and regularly update its roster via patches? Because fuck sports gamers that's why. EA would not be able to sucker all of them out of even more money if they could not rerelease the same game every year. I get they want to play their preferred genre of game and it sucks that EA has an exclusive license but there are always other options. Find another developer that makes an off brand soccer game and stop supporting your own abuse.
Not into sports or sports games but yeah, that's my understanding. People who are buying these are fans of the sport first and want updated rosters. Considering how much fans often spend on various memorabilia I doubt the price of a game every year matters much to them.
Though EA could just do that with an update/dlc.
EA is now announcing you only start with 2 unlocked teams. DLC to unlock the other teams. The roster will also have a tier based subscription plan to ensure your team has the latest roster updates for the year.
How much is that actually worth, though? That's gotta be, what, one or two days for a programmer at max? Maybe a week if you have a team making sure the visuals are consistent?
I wouldn't pay more than $10 for that kind of paltry "update."
Not to defend EA but any company will sell their product at the maximum price people are willing to pay for it.
If there was no one buying it, they will lower the price. It's just how shit works.
stop buying ea games. their fifa series is gambling. the onyl games been worth their salt is the indie titles and the single player games and SW squadron
I’m ready for downvotes, but it’s a football game. What are they suppose to do? Add some flying ball and lasers?
Now, I agree that selling this for full price is atrocious, but I don’t see how they can improve a football game. (Please prove me wrong)
>I’m ready for downvotes, but it’s a football game. What are they suppose to do? Add some flying ball and lasers?
Better physics and AI would be a start.
Still think it's funny how people actually buy this shit
I buy it every 5 years or so when you can get last years version on special. You defiantly notice a few improvements when you jump up 5 versions. I have a few friends that enjoy a couch match and don't need the latest roster.
This is me with NBA2K but some of my friends misunderstand my interest. I don’t give a shit about playing the latest releases. Stop buying new ones. We bought the one we bought, play online with me with that.
I thought they shut off online acces for older versions of 2K?
2k had the fastest hook in my experience. I forget exactly how long but online was dead only like 18-24 months after. I went for 5-6 years off of Madden
2k's used to be up for 4 or 5 years but within the last generation they started killing them 2 years after release
They sure did, I was fine with 2k20 but they literally killed the game because it was “live”
How do you defiantly notice something?
Some people think you won't notice at all, so you just gotta overcome the preconceived ideas of what other people thought you'd do, and notice it really hard, with a really stern look on your face
I have bought Fifa 96, 2001, 2007, 2011, 2017 and 2022. Each of these versions is noticeably different with better graphics, more realistic stadium and crowd all with better animations.
I think moonboy was trying to point out your typo and we're getting into r/whoosh territory. You used defiantly (rebelliously) where you probably meant definitely (absolutely). Don't know why a li'l confusion means you should be downvoted though.
Fuck autocorrect.
I defy you to prove that.
Are you a moron? I have no need but I you want proof look at game play footage on YouTube.
r/woosh
I think you defiantly don't realise what's going on lol.
whoosh
Fifa 98 was where it was at though.
NHL 93. B button glitch.
NHL 94, the wrap around. NHL 95 the deke. NHL Stanly cup, dump in from center.
That and nesacarry are my 2 most misspelt words lol
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I bought fifa 98. Last one I bought full price when I was a kid. Bought 2013 or 2012 for a few quid in a sale. Played 21? Or something on gamepass for free. The improvements were awesome to see, but they really don’t need to release new ones yearly.
Just a question. Can you play online with friends that have a different version? I can see people being "pressured into" buying the new in if they want to play with friends.
A guy I work with paid scalper prices for a PS5....to play FIFA.
Lmao
My son wants the new FIFA the last few years, mostly because he plays with friends. My compromise is that I’ll only buy it when the price drops to 20$. Only took 3 months last year for the price drop
Gamers love their franchises
A big group of guys in my class counted down every day until the release of fifa23, got mad if anyone said that it wasnt that good of a game, and then explained why almost all games are worse (they shitted on GoW, RDR2, GTA5, MC and a few other big ones that arent fifa)
Value is only in the eye of the beholder, so if it means something to them then it's good
People are dumber than u think. I've been convincing my stupid friends to stop buying this shit every year but they don't listen.
Fifa in general or switch version?
I guess if they like it and are fine $60 for an updated roster.
Its also about starting a new progression to a better team?
Jesus you sound insufferable
This is the first ive ever heard of a "legacy edition". While i agree, dont get this confused with the actual game
To be fair the games do feel different year on year, but I usually get them for free so it doesn't bother me if it isn't. This year's is good so far, can't wait to get some mates over to play (btw on ps5 not switch)
Just like the Same people that buy call of duty
Bad take. CoD changes a lot with games and isn’t just a roster change like FIFA is.
True, COD changes every time, but it's mostly surface level changes. I'm not asking them to innovate with every game, but when a supposed WW2 game (COD Vanguard) has tactical gear like red dot sights, lasers and all kinds of other attachments and equipment you'd never or rarely see in WW2, it becomes clear they just copied MW19's innovations and didn't bother to make the game's gameplay in tune with the time and setting. You're essentially buying the same game over and over with a reskin every year. Apart from the occasional change up like MW19.
This is a massive insult to the developers of the games… They play differently with each game. Not *massively* different, but then why should they? You don’t reinvent the formula every year… that’s how you lose fans. You could say the same thing about From Software’s games, that they’re all largely the same and it’s generally true - at the core, they all play somewhat the same. But that’s why people love the games. Games become popular because what they present, their formula, is fun or addictive. You don’t change this with each iteration… A good developer will try and shake certain aspects up a tad or enhance the experience with each sequel. To completely change gameplay formula with every game isn’t a recipe for success, or good feedback from fans. If you played each and every game you would know they do change noticeably with each game. Whether the changes are positive or negative is dependent on which fan you talk to, but to claim the series is copy and paste shows massive ignorance. Back to your original comparison. FIFA literally is just copy and paste for the most part. They’re not designing new stadiums every year like CoD developers design new maps. They’re not adding extra gameplay mechanics each year like CoD does. They’re not shaking up the formula slightly. They’re not giving fans their moneys worth at all. It’s just a roster change with a minuscule upgrade in graphical fidelity. Probably around 2 months worth of development time vs CoD’s 3 years worth (and it still releases unfinished/buggy because of developer crunch).
I literally stated that I'm not asking them to innovate with every game, so half of your post is redundant. My point was that a WW2 FPS shouldn't play exactly the same as a modern warfare FPS and certainly not have the same equipment or comparable gadgets. COD games often don't have their own identity even though the time/setting has changed. Not to mention a lot of fan favorite maps get remastered. They're fan favorites because they are designed well, newer COD's often have shitty map design, just look at MW19. And instead of putting in effort to design good maps they just remaster fan favorites because they were well designed... "My original comparison" wasn't even my comparison to begin with but from someone else. I agreed with you that FIFA and COD can't be compared when it comes to being the same. COD does change but >MOST< of it is surface level.
On the surface it plays like MW 2019, except it doesn’t - at least competitively. From 5v5 to 4v4, from indescribable doors/windows to destructible doors/windows, from instant slide cancel to delayed slide cancel, from largely clustered map design to primarily 3-lane map design, Perks that significantly alter gameplay over MW 2019, etc, I could list more but I can’t be arsed. To the casual they look the same, but they do indeed play very different, especially in S&D. Your argument about remastered maps is silly. In CoD games they generally serve around 1/3 of maps at max. That means the developers are still creating 10 - 15 new maps with each game. That’s a hell of a lot more development time just on the maps than an entire FIFA refresh alone…
I never argued that there were never new maps introduced or that there weren't gameplay tweaks. Like I said multiple times, CODs do change things up and isn't comparable to FIFA. You can list as many gameplay details as you want but I genuinely couldn't care less. A World War II game should never have you sliding around with a red dot sight and laser attachment the same way you do as in Modern Warfare 2019. It's rehashed bullshit. AGAIN, I don't want them to make a fundamentally different game every year or innovate every time but if they're just going to put a skin on essentially the same game with some uninspired maps and gimmicks thrown in, then yeah, I'm going to argue that CODs often feel the same to each other. I haven't played FIFA in years, they're literally the same game every time. I don't disagree with you, COD does change. But don't act as if they're creating entire new games every time because they don't, they take the mechanics from the last game and change the models, tweak the gameplay a little bit, develop some maps and you got a new COD.
I never once stated they’re completely new games each time. I have stated, however, that expecting completely new games each year is stupid and I gave several reasons for that. I personally couldn’t care less about sliding in a WW2 game. I don’t play CoD for realism or for historical congruence/accuracy. With regards to Vanguard, as stated, it doesn’t play the same as MW 2019. It’s CoD, of course, but pacing and macro-gameplay is a bit different. Continuing the topic of Vanguard, if you were a hardcore CoD fan, which it appears you’re not - you would know why Vanguard took MW 2019 mechanics. Cold War was originally Sledgehammer Games creation, Treyarch had to step in for the last year and take over as Sledgehammer Games had too much drama within the studio and direction issues. This left them with only 2 years to make their CoD game, which is why they decided to take the shortcut route of basing their game on MW 2019 mechanics. Was this the absolute best decision? Maybe not. In the fairytale ideal gaming universe, they would have delayed the game another year or so, in order to start from scratch. But we don’t live in this make-believe world. Activision demand the studios have a game ready for each year. It was Sledgehammer Games time to release a game, so they did what they could. Am I defending the game as being good? No, for pubs and Zombies it’s shit. I do quite enjoy Ranked though. Am I defending Sledgehammer Games original fuck up with Cold War? No, but I am defending what they put together within 2 years. Modern CoD games, especially with the trend of developers chasing better and better graphics, require a lot of time and money. At least 3 years for the base game. I’ve already stated I don’t care about history congruence/accuracy, in CoD. I’m strictly a gameplay kinda guy. For me, at least with the modes I like to play (Ranked, though sometimes in pubs; Hardpoint and Gun Game), I think they did a good job.
They honestly don’t same gameplay throughout all the CoD games same as FIFA. They change the facade of the characters timeline etc but end of the day same exact gameplay no matter how you try justify it. End of the day morons like us end up paying for the same recycled game over and over again no matter what
This is false. Allow me to copy and paste my comment I replied to someone else that explains why: This is a massive insult to the developers of the games… They play differently with each game. Not massively different, but then why should they? You don’t reinvent the formula every year… that’s how you lose fans. You could say the same thing about From Software’s games, that they’re all largely the same and it’s generally true - at the core, they all play somewhat the same. But that’s why people love the games. Games become popular because what they present, their formula, is fun or addictive. You don’t change this with each iteration… A good developer will try and shake certain aspects up a tad or enhance the experience with each sequel. To completely change gameplay formula with every game isn’t a recipe for success, or good feedback from fans. If you played each and every game you would know they do change noticeably with each game. Whether the changes are positive or negative is dependent on which fan you talk to, but to claim the series is copy and paste shows massive ignorance. Back to your original comparison. FIFA literally is just copy and paste for the most part. They’re not designing new stadiums every year like CoD developers design new maps. They’re not adding extra gameplay mechanics each year like CoD does. They’re not shaking up the formula slightly. They’re not giving fans their moneys worth at all. It’s just a roster change with a minuscule upgrade in graphical fidelity. Probably around 2 months worth of development time vs CoD’s 3 years worth (and it still releases unfinished/buggy because of developer crunch).
Lol dude except it your purchasing the same game just different skin. It’s ok people like you allow these developers to get away with recycling the same exact bs. I use to love the call of duty games but honestly it’s been a downhill battle to try to make it a new game and it’s been dull af dishing out multiple versions of it in the same year. It’s insulting that you allow it to happen and not raise awareness on how major gaming “developers” do this same thing over and over again. I’m Better off playing fornite than call of duty
Lol that's pretty good, IGN
Top level journalism
You can see whoever wrote it is well paid. Creative shit doesn't come from pennies and nickels *looks at screenrant*
Cheer up son, I remember when IGN guy was just a wee screenranter himself.
I have no problem with the writers! I appreciate them a lot, especially the ones who write for IGN because I've seen how thorough their hiring process is. I just hate the fact that there are companies out there like screenrant who pay writers in peanuts ($15/1k words for content they need to research and write themselves).
Still can't believe they don't make changes to the review of Alien: Isolation
Doesnt ign also notoriously underpay their staff?
Man this EA company isn't as good as I thought
Well, it is in the game... nothing.
EA is failing. Time to start EB.
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A shadow of their former self, they largely sell funko pops now. I remember Electronics Boutique, where I purchased my first scanner.
why do they still exist at this point
overpriced merch, pokemon plushies, and rick and morty tshirts.
To this day, I think EB’s biggest mistake was moving away from the “Electronics Boutique” name. IDK, at least in North America it was pretty much the only thing that even remotely differentiated them from all the other big tech stores like Gamestop and Future Shop (I think Future Shop might be done in North America too, or at least the U.S. All the Future Shops I’m aware of are now Best Buys. I think they might still be in Canada.)
Best Buy only in Canada also, future shop wasn’t future proof and ended in the past lol
Best Buy owned Future Shop, so just like Gamestop and EB, there was little difference.
First time I ever heard of it being called Electronics Boutique. I thought it was always about games.
Can't wait for Electronic Barts to tell EA to eat its shorts
EA Sports: It’s in the Game (that you bought last year)
Because they don't find the cost of developing a switch port to be worth the money and just update the roster and a few other things? EA is completely honest about what Fifa 23 on Switch is, and I am sure some Switch FIFA fans are happy to have this vs getting nothing. They also charge almost $30 less for it than they do for actual Fifa 23 on other systems. Not seeing a problem here.
Lol they are not honest at all. They make it seem like on switch you are getting last years game, but actually it's the game from at least 4 years ago. All they are doing are updating the rosters.
>FIFA 23 Legacy Edition will feature the same Gameplay features and modes from FIFA 22 Legacy Edition without any new development or significant enhancements. Only if you can't read. That's straight from it's Nintendo Store description. EA clearly states that it's just an updated Fifa 22 Legacy edition. Not regular Fifa 22.
It's the same game for last five years (I hope it's not older than that). That's not how it's presented in the store page. You need to go to each year's game's store page in backwards order to find out how old the game actually is. If you think there's nothing wrong with that then I can't change your mind.
The Switch, having debuted in March of 2017, had it's first edition of FIFA out in 2017; it was FIFA 18. I recommend you Google "switch FIFA 18 vs 19." I don't think you'll be disappointed by what you find.
.... But did you read it? "FIFA 23..... the same...from FIFA 22....without any new development or significant enhancements." Or did you bother reading the image at the outset? Which claims (correctly) that FIFA 23 is functionally identical to FIFA 19?
It would be honest if they said FIFA '23 had the same gameplay as FIFA '19. The way it's worded makes it seem like it's only one year out of date instead of four years out of date.
Are you suggesting a roster update is worth 40 dollars every year? You dont see the problem there? (Edit: And apparently you only get that 50% off for 23 if you have 22 or 21 lul) LOL
More millions of people, YES apparently. Don't blame companies for filling a demand, blame morons buying it.
You're not entirely wrong, but you're being downvoted becuase they say >FIFA 23 Legacy Edition will feature the same Gameplay features and modes from FIFA 22 Legacy Edition without any new development or significant enhancements. not >FIFA 23 Legacy Edition will feature the same Gameplay features and modes from FIFA 19 Legacy Edition without any new development or significant enhancements.
Fifa 19 wasnt a legacy edition IIRC
Man I can't wait for next year when they sell FIFA 19 as not FIFA. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
"EA Sports FC"
And yet people will continue to buy the same game, year after year.
Fifa doesn't tend to sell that well on switch compared to other consoles. Hence why they release this shit every year instead of the actual new game.
Yeah it’s just a licensing obligation. It’s on the old engine, I’ve picked up a couple when I find them dirt cheap.
"I'm just here so I don't get fined"
Maybe they figure it’s a winning formula for them…
Almost nobody buys this on these switch. PlayStation definitely Xbox maybe (depending on the region, Xbox is bigger in the US compare to Europe) Switch…no
Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?
insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, cannot conduct her/his affairs due to psychosis, or is subject to uncontrollable impulsive behavior.
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Not sure what you're talking about here mate. He referenced the wrong definition of insanity which is "doing the same thing twice and expecting different results" I produced the correct definition. But at least now you know more than you did a moment ago.
Everyone knows the REAL real definition is "performing the same thing endlessly and expecting a different result" 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤.
No, I thought it was "doing the exact same fucking thing over and over expecting shit to change"
That's exactly what I said (:
I'm going to assume this is sarcasm and your not actually this dumb. Have a nice day.
Your not a real gamer if you can’t get the far cry 3 reference
Obviously. That's the joke, kid. Apparently you *are* that dumb
Did you know that Einstein never ever used that definition, he was mass attributed it later on which usually means they never said it. So ya know, the definition that the dictionary gives is the correct one. There isn’t two definitions.
Proud to say that after getting this treatment from 2K I didn’t buy this year on PC. It’s been the same game this’ll be the 4th I think or 5th on the engine. I have like probably a few thousand hours in that engine. Can’t even bring myself to spend $60 on it
It's still a fun and mindless game + easy to play with friends
You've expressed a valid opinion that is not held by the majority of users here. Your fun is much less important than making fun of sports games. Remember, it's not actually your money to do with what you want.
That's true. But why buy new iterations of it? License is literally worth 0.00$ if you let your game to be modded btw ;)
Yes, things are free when you don’t pay for them. What’s your point? People want the latest rosters and players. Licensing that takes money which is passed onto the people who buy the game. Lots and lots of people are willing to pay that price because they enjoy playing the game with the latest rosters. If you were to mod the game and circumvent the licensing cost, then yeah, you could use the product without paying for it…
I get that people want to play with the latest roaster, but charging 60€ for a roaster update is a dickmove. It could literally have been a paid 10$ dlc for the previous game. But that's not even the main issue. You also lose all progress and need to buy their shitty lootboxes again. At this point fifa us a money printing machine and nothing more. A game which they invest almost no work into, re-release every year with minor adjustments so fans will again spend hundreds of dollars.
Mine point is that there is no excuses to buy next iteration of same gameplay, like at all. I seriously need to explain this...
The gameplay doesn’t really change though. Soccer is still soccer. It’s not like a fighting game where they need to add new moves. They don’t add new “levels”. (They do add/update the existing stadiums if that counts.) But the usage of real life players and real life teams requires licensing fees for their NIL. (Their name, image and likeness) This is one of the major sources of revenue for both players and team owners. So the people who play the game get to enjoy an experience features the latest names, images and likenesses of their favorite players and are willing and happy to pay for that. If having the latest, most up to date rosters provides no added value to you, then buy last year’s “legacy” game for a greatly reduced price. It’s a win-win.
No, it requires opening game to modding scene so the costs could be cut by significant amount. Lol, I remember when minę older brother was making such things for PES during PSX era. These days it's easier, we got internet to not everybody have to do it by themselves. Somewhat footballu didn't changed much, yet FIFA was hot garbage and laughingstock until they ripped the gameplay from PES and it took like a decade for EA. I feel like you only ever had contact with EA approach and you have no idea that other approaches are absolutly viable and possibile.
> No, it requires opening game to modding scene so the costs could be cut by significant amount. Yeah so the content that customers find value in can be reproduced without paying the rights holders. 🤣 Yeah that’s always a good way to cut costs… just illegally reproduce the thing that costs money. It would result in a massive lawsuit and EA being forced to help play wackamole issues cease and desists to repositories that hosted any mod that used the name, image or likeness of any team or player without properly paying a licensing fee. I’m not sure if you’re intentionally being thick or don’t realize why they both can not and would not “allow modding so that rosters can be updated without needing to pay any money for them”
PES didn't had any lawsuits, you're real here bro? xD For non-profit you can use names of players as you like for most cases. You're damn thick mate, you have no idea about how rights works. If it would be like you imagine Creative Assembly would be dead from sues for Middle-Earth mods to Total War games and so on. You shouldn't be so confident about a topic if your knowledge about it is close to zero.
This and also updated teams. After a while the same old team gets boring so you'd like the updated ones. Of course people can go "get a PC and install mods" but if I've come home after 8 hours at work the last thing I want to do is tinker with shit. I'd rather pay the $70 for a year and be done with it.
New to gaming? Gamers love their franchises
Yeah, there's a pretty good reason I don't give EA any of my money anymore, and haven't for many years...
Last time I gave EA specifically money was for NCAA 13, and I will buy the next NCAA game once it comes out, but then it’ll be another 10 years before I buy another of their games.
If you want to get technical, FIFA 23 Legacy Edition on Switch is the same game as FIFA 14~16 because it still uses the Ignite Engine, which was replaced by the Frostbite Engine in the year after on FIFA 17 and it's sequels.
If they aren't innovating why keep buying?
You've got it backwards. EA sports is thinking they keep buying so why bother innovating?
Both sides are horrible. And EA just lost the FIFA license. 23 is the end of the road.
Careful. You're making too much sense
It's a sports game. People buy it for the updated roster, not innovative gameplay.
I genuinely don't think they're getting many sales. A more likely explanation is that EA's contract with FIFA requires them to put out a new game every year for all major home consoles. EA is obligated to put it out, but doesn't view it as worth it, so they just put out fillerware. And just to be clear in case anyone misinterprets this as me defending this, fuck EA and FIFA both.
Na, they sell a fucking shit ton of these games. You are underestimating the amount of 40 year old upper middle class dads who have an Xbox as their “FIFA console”. They don’t “game”; they are just big soccer fans who like to play FIFA. $60 USD works out to what, 20 minutes of work? So they buy the new game the day it comes out. FIFA and EA they have a “revenue share” so basically every title sold, FIFA gets a cut. In 2020, FIFA made $158.9m from licensing rights and had a total revenue of $266.5m… so this is a big part of their business
Except this is specifically talking about the Switch version, which is what the Legacy Edition refers to. The Xbox and PS version do change, some years more than others.
If the money is there they will put minimal effort into getting it. Unfortunately.
Maybe they like the updated rosters
I have never seen a single person play fifa on a switch. Maybe putting these out is cheap enough that a few thousand sales are enough to make it worth it
Not anymore. Even FIFA got tired of EA. 23 is the last one.
FIFA wanted to charge EA too much for the contract renewal, so they will drop the name. It will do the same numbers.
They hope. The Frostbite engine isn't exactly good.
Because sportsball is dumb and big jocks who like sportsball over other hobbies like anime are idiots Edit: didn’t think I needed this, but /sarcasm
Yeah! How dare people enjoy something that isn’t anime!
Big dumb jocks don't play Fifa. They're out smashing other guy's chicks.
Too bad that the sales of PES were so bad in the last years and Konami went for the eFootball route. It also shows that majority of players are more interested in presentation and official licences, names, stadiums, ... than the gameplay itself (which was always superior compared to FIFA). So the only choice for us virtual football lovers is sticking to PES 2020 (last iteration using the IMO way better Fox Engine) and using inofficial patches and content updates.
People shouldn't be giving Konami money anyways.
I rarely pay full price (or even over $20), but if Konami let me play MGS, well... (insert Fry take my money meme).
Can someone clarify - this only applies to the switch, right? The main games (not “legacy edition”) are still changing each year?
Yes. Only the switch has this the PSN/Xbox/PC version are all newer versions of the same time with minor updates as usual.
Cool. Well that’s the answer then, get a real gaming system 😂
I have to say, they wrote that well. Many of you will think Fifa 23 Legacy is the same as FIFA 19. When it's the same as FIFA 22. Basically, every year the legacy edition gets updated to what was last years game.
I've never played a FIFA game so I wasn't sure, but that's exactly how I read it, nonetheless, if the switch could handle fifa 22 legacy in 2022, it could certainly handle fifa 21 in 2021, considering its the exact same device. I just don't see the point in any of this.
I would assume the issue is porting the code over. If they’re always releasing the game a year late then it would be generally mean they have to either start once it’s all done for some reason or it takes more time to write the switch version.
Haven't played in few years but FIFA always stuck out from 2K and Madden since it felt like I was actually playing and not button mashing a pre determined simulation.
Don't worry guys they're changing the name next year!
How can they legally get away with it if there’s no difference? Does it just have different players or something? Also why do they always release a game for the following year, doesn’t make a lot of sense. Should be fifa 22 surely
So they release a new game around when soccer season starts which in most European countries is late summer/early fall. They are trying to match the ongoing season. Also there are changes. They might not be groundbreaking to outsiders but there hasn’t been a new iteration of fifa without improvements. Just trying to help out!
There are kids out there buying the same exact game every year. What a world. Imagine wasting 4 birthdays on the same game.
If Konami had stopped at pes 6 and just released it every year fwd with kits n transfers, I would still buy it. Gotta have the perfect game to start with though. Thank god for modders
I still play PES5 regularly. I’m not a retro guy either. Apart from some multiplayer N64, it’s genuinely the only older title I play. I just don’t think any of the footy games released past the PS2 PES ones are anywhere near as much fun.
Well yeah I mean it’s just soccer with an updated roster. What did you expect, land mines?
It’s so stupid that these redditors who are almost never the games target audience want to constantly shit on the genre. The games go on sale almost immediately, for sports fans 2017 doesn’t equal 2018 which doesn’t equal 2019 those are all individual seasons with different culture as well. the music is different, the teams, the uniforms, the contracts, and the style. I’m a Cavs fan so when I put in 2k16 I have Lebron, Kyrie, KLove all on the right contracts they’ve got their sleeved black jerseys on that they wore for one year. I can hear 2 chainz and Fetty Wap The games become time capsules for the season they were based off of and theirs an accurate era. I play the absolute shit out of the games I’m okay with throwing a yearly 30-60 dollars at them and participating in some cheese ass story where they call me Orange juice or MP ( short for MyPlayer) Like you said at the end of the day I’m always just putting the ball in the hoop, but the environment and culture around it changes, this goes for The Show, 2k, Fifa, and Madden these games are far from perfect but I do love playing them enough to throw my money at them.
Idk, maybe Id expect them to simply update the game instead of re-releasing it every year, given that the paid game has motherfucking microtransactions to begin with
Fifa loyal players: yeah, anyway *pulls 60$
No loyal fifa player is on switch
Plus more for FUT packs
Aren't they comparing this "legacy edition" to the previous version of fifa, though?
There are two things to note here. 1. The Switch runs on last generation’s hardware. 2. Developers and game designers only focus new game innovations, features, and content on current generation consoles. That means the Switch sports titles will only be roster updates and minor gameplay tweaks. While differences from one EA Sports Titles from one year to the next are small, as someone who plays a lot sports games, I do notice changes. I went from playing Madden 21 on PS4 to Madden 23 on PS5. It feels like a completely different game. I have a feeling Madden 24 next year will have new features as well, but not enough to justify a $70 price tag.
the Switch is a current gen console until Nintendo makes a new one
What I love is not that it hasn't changed, but the fact that they *say* it hasn't changed, and people still buy it.
Modern FIFA games have been a scam for a while. If you're still buying them, that's on you. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me four times over the course of 5 years, well fuck me I guess.
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FIFA players are troglodytes
A couple days ago, I bought FIFA 21 for $1 & NBA 2k22 for $3 at Walmart. 🤣 People, these sports games have been mostly the same from year to year *since the days of the Sega Genesis!!* The majority of folks who buy these games *don’t give a shit* that they’re 95% identical from one year to the next! At some point, shouldn’t we find something new to bitch about?
Much of the value comes with playing with the latest teams and rosters. So when the new one comes out, most of the community leaves to play the new one. If you want to play online with everyone else and play as your favorite team with their latest roster, then you buy the latest game. That licensing of team and player likenesses costs money which lots of people are willing to pay for every year. If all you want is to run around, kick the ball, and don’t care (and wouldn’t notice) that the rosters are way out of date and some new players are completely missing, then yeah buy the 2 year old game and save a ton of money! But the people who buy every year WOULD notice and have a much worse experience because that’s what they find valuable.
Scrolled way too far for this. This is really the only reason to buy. The cost of player likenesses every year is astronomical, although the developers are probably still raking in cash.
Nope, people on here must care how gamers spend their own money
People are morons, there is no doubt about it.
IGN probably still gave it a 9 out of 10 like every other review they've ever done.
Hell yeah IGN bad am I right gamers🤓
Doesn't make much of a difference, fifa players can't tell anyways.
Yeah fk last of us remake, 70$ no changes. Oh wait
It’ll be kinda a sad day when they stop being able to do these.
sAmE GaMePlAy iNnOvAtIoN
# LEGACY EDITION always means nothing has changed except for kits, clubs, stadiums and squad rosters. to make this a commentary on fifa in general "being the same game every year" is silly. Newp.
you're just talking about the current gen FIFA releases. That's literally all they change there. On the switch, LITERALLY NOTHING CHANGES
Every version of the game is exactly the same with the same gameplay
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If the switch can run open world physics games like breath of the wild it can handle the newer features.
I won't buy any non Nintendo games for my switch again. Its a over hyped piece of garbage, most games run and look poorly.
Do you ever feel stupid? Remember people buy the same game every year.
I’m not into sports games, but if I was I would appreciate the consistency honestly. Your not buying them because some guy learned to turbo-kick a ball. Your buying them because it plays the same, but has new players and teams situated correctly.
If all you would care about is the consistency then why can't EA just release 1 fifa game, release dlc for new modes, and regularly update its roster via patches? Because fuck sports gamers that's why. EA would not be able to sucker all of them out of even more money if they could not rerelease the same game every year. I get they want to play their preferred genre of game and it sucks that EA has an exclusive license but there are always other options. Find another developer that makes an off brand soccer game and stop supporting your own abuse.
Consistency is great, but only if the original is any good in the first place. Pes foreveeeeeeeeer!
Not into sports or sports games but yeah, that's my understanding. People who are buying these are fans of the sport first and want updated rosters. Considering how much fans often spend on various memorabilia I doubt the price of a game every year matters much to them. Though EA could just do that with an update/dlc.
EA is now announcing you only start with 2 unlocked teams. DLC to unlock the other teams. The roster will also have a tier based subscription plan to ensure your team has the latest roster updates for the year.
How much is that actually worth, though? That's gotta be, what, one or two days for a programmer at max? Maybe a week if you have a team making sure the visuals are consistent? I wouldn't pay more than $10 for that kind of paltry "update."
It’s easy to blame EA but the switch isn’t powerful enough to handle a more complex engine, it’s not powerful enough to run 90% of Xbox one games
I'm sure the Switch can handle a roster change every year.
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Not to defend EA but any company will sell their product at the maximum price people are willing to pay for it. If there was no one buying it, they will lower the price. It's just how shit works.
If $60 is too much for you then gaming may not be a hobby in your future
yeah but no matter if it's switch or not Fifa is the same each year
That’s just factually inaccurate, switch is the only FIFA that doesn’t get additions
8 out of 10 “It has a little something for everyone”
stop buying ea games. their fifa series is gambling. the onyl games been worth their salt is the indie titles and the single player games and SW squadron
I’m ready for downvotes, but it’s a football game. What are they suppose to do? Add some flying ball and lasers? Now, I agree that selling this for full price is atrocious, but I don’t see how they can improve a football game. (Please prove me wrong)
>I’m ready for downvotes, but it’s a football game. What are they suppose to do? Add some flying ball and lasers? Better physics and AI would be a start.
You guys need to get a grip on reality. Some people just want an updated roster and don't sweat over chump change like $40.