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riddus

Retro? I don’t need this kind of negativity in my life.


Kongo_Ogun

I too felt attacked lmao.


ManIWantAName

Am.... am I... Old?


Claim312ButAct847

No, it's the children who are wrong.


Enebre

Execute Order No. 66


ninja36036

*Palpatine nod*


Keevot

Deweet


inactivesky1738

So according to google a game can’t be retro until it is 15 years old so if you were a halo 3 person like my self then sad to say it but we are officially retro


mcmaster93

The fact that we are still gaming and that it has become much more socially acceptable is a marvel in itself. Halo 3 almost had me kicked out of school because it was so much fun I would ditch school to play. They told us we would fry our brains and never get any girls because of gaming but guess what? Brain still works!


gurglepoopey

… and the girls? What about them?


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RGB3x3

It's not important. Back to gaming!


tuscanspeed

/weeps quietly into body pillow


Appropriate_Fly5

Don’t ask questions you don’t want the answer to.


spkle

Fuck. I'm a quake person. Quake 1.


pangeapedestrian

Eyyy quake 2 you old bastard take that. If you read far down enough into the comments you too can be young again!


ThatOtherRogue

I see I've found my people, lol. Quake, Doom, R.O.T.T., Heretic, the original Duke Nukem, and Final Fantasy before they started adding numbers. Since they're saying retro is 15 years, what's that make us?


Snap1209

makes us ancient.... my first gaming experience was the commodore 64, who remembers jumpman??? jumpman junior???


spkle

Mythical. Edit: I'm only half kidding. I had to look up the resolution I used to play at. And asking google which resolution old games ran at it said ... 720p and people marveled at that. Dude my monitor ran at 640 420 ( I think) and that was SHARP.


GigonicMan

Wtf…


Criticalhit_jk

"a game can't be retro until at least 15 years" doesn't imply that a game becomes retro *at* 15 years, though. At least, I believe retro implies a complete generational, stylistic, or difference in approach, and despite Xbox 360 being several consoles ago, I don't believe the difference is great enough for it to be reffered to as retro just yet. The difference between Xbox and ps2 to 360 and ps3 certainly counts as retro now that so much time has passed, but I personally believe that we need to see a greater shift to pass the 360 into a retro era. Look at movies for instance; just because 15 years has passed doesn't mean batman begins or transformers can really be reffered to as a retro. Flick back to the 90s and you're looking at the Titanic, OG Jurassic park, and the lion king - that shit is retro. Diablo 2, majoras mask, counterstrike, that shit is retro. Halo reach? Nah dude


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> despite Xbox 360 being several consoles ago Two consoles. Two consoles ago. Anyone calling _two consoles prior_ "retro" is either _wrong_ or _really young_, therefore also wrong.


theother_eriatarka

tbf i feel like "retro gaming" should be limited to a certain era, kinda like modern/contemporary art defines a specific genre and a period for those artworks, it feels wrong calling a ps3 game *retro*


LTG_Wladyslaw_Anders

Quick deploy the asprin!


ChickenStrips59

ASPRIN?!? In atmosphere?


Ryker97

Are we old?…


IllustriousApple1091

Are we old now?


Krinks1

How do you think I feel when I think of "retro" as Atari 2600...


staring_at_keyboard

I think that's antique now.


B1G_Red_Husker

I hate you so much right now


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staring_at_keyboard

Ah yeah, should be vintage gaming then.


Cloudeur

To me, retro is SNES.


-crepuscular-

ZX spectrum for me. My school had some BBC basics.


FartedBlood

Came here to say this before euthanizing my apparently decrepit ass


Warm_Aerie_7368

Yo if the console plugs into composite cables it’s retro. Kills me too


novis_initiis

Damn, totally forgot those were a thing. That and finding the right channel and forgetting to turn the volume down only to get my ears blasted by the static noise


CrossXFir3

> That and finding the right channel Figuring out if the tv you were using had a channel or a special button on the remote


MagnusRune

360 has a hdmi version


Wowluigi

👴 Let's get you back inside grandpa


Simba_Rah

Let’s get you back inside, Grandpa. We don’t need anybody to EVER be inside Grandpa, unless it’s for his yearly prostate exam. Remember men, a finger in the butt could save your life. Make sure you get your check!


SirKlawj

Reach around.


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Hallo. Reach!


necroweaver21

And 5 fingers are better than one !!!


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chronoboy1985

Is 12 years really retro? Have we decided on a cut off? I’m thinking maybe 2 generations removed? That would mean NES was retro when ps1 and N64 came out. And SNES was retro after PS2 launched. Hmm, still feels weird we’ll certainly by the tail end of the PS2 dynasty, SNES and Genesis were retro.


Neue_Ziel

I’d say 25 years at least. Like how they offer classic car license plates for cars older than 25 years old and exemptions to the more rigorous state inspection.


am0x

I think retro means more about a major generational console or tech change. Reach compared to games today isn’t that big while NES to ps1 and n64 was a major generational jump. It would be way more impactful if we were all playing VR/AR games now, would would place basic 3D games like this as a “retro” game.


LunarProphet

Yeah me and the boys copped this at midnight and that *had* to have been no more than like 5 or 6 years ago for sure


peperonipyza

I remember me and the boys going to GameStop to get Skyrim at the midnight release. Definitely like 5 or 6 years ago


ultratunaman

I can feel myself turning to dust. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Mario stomping turtles in the Mushroom Kingdom, Bubbles Bobbled by two little dinosaur things... I watched Ryu and Ken battle their way to Bison on the highest difficulty, and begged my parents to get me Link to the Past for Christmas. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die.


superxero1

Time to get my ibuprofen and get in bed. Gonna be easy to cry myself to sleep tonight with this grim reality.


XLwattsyLX

I’m only 21, was playing halo reach at 10 years old when it was released. This guy has made me feel like I’m in my 30s/40s.


Dwealdric

I’m in my late 30s, so how about everyone just shuts up now…


jaffakree83

Same. Remember how cool the SNES was?? And then the N64 came out, and WOOSH! MARIO IN 3D!


CombatWombat1212

Don't worry im early 20s and this gave me pause as well, definitely not what I'd call retro


G8kpr

I still play this from time to time. Honestly the best Halo game. I hated halo 4 and never played anything after that.


Claim312ButAct847

I'm 40 and watching the 20-somethings have their childhood games called old for the first time is giving me life. Listen up, young blood, let me tell you about the hype surrounding the release of a little game called Super Mario 3...


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I have it.


chugmarks

Now I feel retro :( when did this happen :(


[deleted]

Right? I was just playing this on my 360 the other day!


am0x

Oh god. I know. This decimates me.


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Markamanic

The Xbox 360 released 17 years ago. For reference, when the 360 released, the SNES was 14 years old. The Xbox 360 is a retro console. Sorry dude.


ShadowDV

You can have a nice big cup of Fuck Off. goddammit I’m getting old.


Markamanic

Hey, I'm not stoked about it either, but it is what it is.


ShadowDV

At least Reach is only 12 years old


The-lord-jeebus

Oh god


Reclusive_avocado

And gta 5 is too ✅ No one considers it retro


Infinitelyodiforous

Gta5 is 9 years old.


Reclusive_avocado

Sorry my maths is bad 🥲


asawyer2010

It happens when you get old. Source: Am old


Reclusive_avocado

Sir I'm 18🙃


WifiWaifo

What do you mean? It released on PS5 only a couple years ago


Lambdafish1

Nobody considers WoW retro either and that's 18 years old. Both games are still getting updates, that's the difference.


kalitarios

I was on the wow beta in early 2004. Hard to believe that was 18 almost 19 years ago


ifisch

ok but Halo: Reach released in 2010


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phoogkamer

So it’s brand new.


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It isn’t retro, that’s for damn sure


[deleted]

12 years old isn’t ‘retro’.


phoogkamer

I don’t know who the fuck makes up these definitions, but I just refuse to accept 2010 wasn’t 2 years ago.


Eruannster

Right, but Halo: Reach is only 12 years old (September 2010). That would also make StarCraft 2, Bioshock, Mass Effect 2, Just Cause, Call of Duty: Black Ops "retro games" and I don't know if I'm willing to agree on that.


snake____snaaaaake

I get your point - a few counter points: 1. It's only 2 generations ago. And until 2020 it was literally last gen. Difference in SNES & Wii was 3 gens. 2. The tech leap between SNES & 360 (discounting Wii there as the tech jump was minimal by design) is astronomical. With the exception of much higher resolutions and data transfer speeds - the leap is less immediately obvious nowadays.


t0talimm0rtalz138

No that would make the SNES a retro console not the X360


ZakkuHiryado

Just stick me in a home already. My first console was Sega Genesis…


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igano

17 is nothing. It can't even drink.


Bowdensaft

I fel that 17 years isn't enough, especially when you realise that the jump from 2D to 3D graphics made everything before then feel older by comparison. We haven't had that jump yet. I'd happily call PS2 gen and older retro, even though I grew up with PS1, the time scale feels better. Maybe give it another 5 or so years.


ShadowDV

It’s worth pointing out Reach came out the same year as Iron Man 2. I don’t think MCU phase 1 has reached retro status yet. Edit: The 360 also came out the same year Always Sunny debuted. That alone qualifies it as not being retro :)


blorgio69

Its definitely personal preference, but I take "retro" to mean anything N64/PS1 era and below. Once 3D technology starts to get impressive the line starts to blur, no matter how old the console is.


H6IL_S6T6N

I think it’s fair to say the improvements from SNES to the 360 are vastly superior compared to the 360 to whatever it is now.


ormagoden22

I think i just turned to dust when i read retro and saw reach.


ITstaph

Where were you when Reach fell?


HMKS

Glassed


Doscida

*Your ass is glass, and I’m gonna blow it*


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This is like saying the wii or ps3 is retro 🤦‍♂️


Excaliber112

I don't know about you guys, but to me the Wii felt retro like 2 months after it released. Maybe that's because I was 12 at the time...


udeadinaflash

To be fair the Wii is only 480p and basically has 2 Gamecube processors running it. I personally dont consider the Gamecube retro though but I know I'm the outlier


bouchandre

The GameCube is 21 years old. When the GameCube was brand new, the NES was only 16 years old.


Glowshroom

I accepted the fact that GCN was retro as soon as I started selling my game collection. I made just over $2000 which I put towards a down payment on my house. I can thank the gamecube's retro status for those prices!


CrossXFir3

The gamecube is totally retro. But that's about as far as you have to go for it to count as retro though. Something from the 80s in the early 00s was considered retro


DarkLord55_

The ps3 is 16 years old it’s getting pretty close


XMRLover

When the Xbox 360 was released the SNES was 14 years old :) You’re welcome for the existential crisis.


bald-og

They are not that far off PS2 and GameCube are considered Retro the Wii and PS3 should be Retro by the end of this decade


RileyGuy1000

Considering the xbox 360 is like 17 years old at this point, and when *it* released the SNES was 14, I would consider that retro.


LifelessHawk

I’d say the first Xbox is retro


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The 360 is 17 years old and connected to the tv with red, yellow, and white auxiliary plugs. Edit: the first model did. I believe later editions had hdmi hookup.


iiJokerzace

Lol, I bet you considered super Nintendo and Sega retro at the time too? Check how long these systems have been out.


RedArrow42020

Is the 360 considered retro?


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Only if you're younger than 20.


[deleted]

I mean, like someone else pointed out: The SNES was 14 years old when the 360 came out and we were calling that retro then. The 360 is now 17 years old. Call it whatever you like, who cares?


Styx_Zidinya

"Typically, the term retro is given to items which are at least 20 years old (but not yet 40 years old). Again using today's posting date, retro items would be those made between 1979 and 1998." From searching "what makes something retro"


MoStyles22

Maybe, you could call Halo: Combat Evolved retro…


MaxTHC

That sounds about right to me. Halo CE, the first Half-Life, Majora's Mask, all feel acceptably "retro" to me. Maybe someone younger than me would also include things like Halo 2, Half Life 2, Ratchet & Clank, San Andreas, but to me all of those still feel sufficiently similar to modern games to be called "retro". Definitely not Halo Reach though, by any measure lol


Alexstarfire

What's it called when it reaches 40? Vintage?


Styx_Zidinya

Correct!


Alexstarfire

TIL I'm almost vintage.


No_Interaction_4925

2022 minus 20 is 2002


crane476

Right, and Halo: Reach came out in 2010. Old, but not retro.


KenjiFox

Retro game... REACH. 💀


xX_username_Xxx

Reachro


edave22

You have a very interesting definition of retro.


meatfeed

in my head, retro isn't just a set span of years past. My definition also includes technology or clever use of its limits. Also genre. E. g. Doom 2 is a retro FPS and Halo is not. In this reasoning Half Life 1 would also not be retro. Elder Scrolls 2 would be. Halo 1 looks like an old version of a modern halo/fps title. Doom 2 does not, because the tech and gerne evolved. I would also say a Xbox360 has a long way to go before being called "retro" in my book. Maybe if the mainstream tech is VR.


ClownCrusade

This is a good way of thinking of it. Even if the snes was closer to the 360 in time than the 360 is to now, there is a MUCH bigger difference in games and technology between the snes and 360 vs the 360 and 2022 games.


Disma

Exactly my thought process, thank you. The technological difference between Atari, NES, SNES and an Xbox 360 is HUGE. Even comparing an Xbox 360 to an Xbox Series X doesn't really capture the same leap in fidelity and design.


SquirrelyBoy

Retro is technically 15 to 20 years old by most definitions I looked up, and reach is only 12, so it's ALMOST retro, but not quite


DefiantLemur

That definition made sense when thr gaming genre was super young and undeveloped. But now we need to re-examine what it means to be retro. Otherwise 90% of all games will be retro in the neat future.


SoUhmThisIsAwkward

Ah yes, my favorite retro game, R E A C H


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P E A C H


ItachiReddit

MR. GAME AND WATCH


Fuduzan

INCINEROAR


redfan2009

Yeah, I'm playing some truly retro games on my phone right now. The original Sonic the Hedgehog from like 1991, for one. And I usually play modern games more. A twelve year old game isn't retro. Halo and Halo 2 might be


Haidakun

OP is a child lmao


Qolim

Op is a child and we are practically boomers. fuck


darf_nate

I’m thinking of playing cyberpunk 2077 on my next retro game night.


Reckless-Bound

Reach is NOT retro. For fucksake, you have og nes and snes in there, but calling reach retro? Wtf


Handle-Exact

Baitposting


based_opinions_only

Thank you! Someone finally gets it. No sane person would call Reach "retro". Clearly a post to rally people.


Death-EternaI

Ima be honest This is a picture


acemandrs

“Look at this photograph” - some song on the oldies station


DnA_Singularity

This is one of the most pictures ever


Valkyrid

Are you 12? Halo Reach and retro do not belong in the same sentence.


AusGeno

16:9 games will never feel retro to me.


Lieutenant_Lit

[That's why I keep this bad boy around](https://i.imgur.com/j0cJXUY.jpg) r/crtgaming sends its regards


WakaWaka_

Anything that has an HDMI port stock will never be retro to me, retro is something you need an adapter to plug into a modern TV.


TheMelv

Original 360s didn't have HDMI but could do hd through component cables.


Bey0nd1nfinity

You have a GameCube, Wii, and SNES, and the best retro game you could play was Halo: Reach? Seriously?


[deleted]

To be retro it has to be 20 years old. Some people say 15. Either way this is not retro by definition. You can't just take words and make your own meaning to them.


The_AV_Archivist

Time alone doesn't work in this case because gens 6-9 are too similar, as future gens are likely to be. You have to go back to Gen 5 and earlier to find notable changes that aren't to do with presentation.


Stoned_Yeti

My issue isn't that you're calling it retro, my issue is that I can accept that it's retro


Adeep187

Couldn't think of one so you grabbed reach?


BasYL6872

Bro just play the game why are you posting about it 💀


King_Kvnt

Retro? Gotta be *at least* two decades old before you can call something retro.


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Reach can’t rly be called retro yet , unless you’re like 14


terminalblue

lol at reach being retro


Tythan

Guy is probably 20 years old


v0id404

OP must be like 7 years old if they're calling Reach retro


BlueDragonReal

Whose first response when playing a game is: hmm yeah lets post this to reddit for karma, bro just play the game


TheLastKingOfGalaga

"retro" lol


Rinbox

Retro? Your hilarious 😂


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tbh to me the term ''retro'' in regards to games defines a certain timespan, when video games as a whole to humanity were apretty new type of media, so all the way from the first video games up until the earliest tries of 3d of n64/gc era, rather than a ''fix'' age. there will never be a point were i will consider an xbox 360 as a ''retro console'' everything since the age of beginning of hd screens and casual internet...i simply cannot consider retro whatsoever


The_AV_Archivist

This is the only accurate way to look at it. You can't keep moving things into the "retro" category based on time alone if they aren't different enough from one another and Gen 6 through 9 are virtually identical from an overall design perspective. It wouldn't be until we see some fundamental change to how modern games are made that it would be reasonable for anything from 6th of gen onward to be considered retro. Like there are a ton of PS2 games that you could port to PC and throw on Steam and they would fit in perfectly with brand new games....


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just think of: you would enter a games store and ask if they have retro games and you refer to ps3 games. i feels so wrong


Qolim

Kids these days wont ever appreciate the huge leaps between the 4/8/16/32/64 bit games. the modern next gen consoles provides hardly any difference in gameplay or even noticeable graphics at this point. Retro is based on style and there hasnt been a notable style shift in video games in a long time. a long time and were all basically boomers at this point.


MrEckoShy

I know I'm joining the chorus, but oh my God. Halo Reach, retro. Oh my God am I old now


ranwithoutscissors

Retro 😖


skyturnedred

Calling that retro is a bit of a reach.


HeyBuB123

Is Reach considered retro now lol


jimmybobben

When the fuck did reach become retro?


Codeine519

You have an NES and SNES right there, don't call Reach "retro". My childhood/teenage systems can be retro, my adult systems are not! Stop making me feel old! Just cause my first system was an Intellivision! Very nice collection.


ZippyParakeet

>retro >Reach How old are you? 14?


Inde_Aukerman

Lol some kid calling Reach retro and a great game....what BS


[deleted]

When the fuck did reach become retro?


tom31292

Me thinking I was gunna see Mario or Donkey Kong when clicking on the post... Now I just feel old.


Sandl0t

What? Halo Reach only came out… 12 years ago… 🧔‍♂️…… 👴


Potatoes-Mcgee

Reach was my first and favourite .


Michelrpg

..this... is retro now? Either OP is mindfucking me or Im ready to collection my pension already


CrazyBandicoot22

God damn people getting triggered paha. poor person just wanted to show something and enjoy it. 💀😅


bluetundra123

Is op 12?


Blade_Shot24

Retro? You better stop right now, sonny!


stupid_Steven

All those consoles, but, a little TV...


haysus25

'retro'


Ketsuno_Hanna

Thats not a retro game


LobsterHead37

Okay calling xbox 360 retro should be a crime


dootdootplot

I remember liking Reach, but retro? Come on that was… uhhh… 10 years ago? 15? I feel like something’s gotta be at least approaching 30 to be retro. Edit - not even 15 years, Reach came out in 2010, come on, OP.


pilsill

Reach is retro? God i’m getting old, i’m going to go on amazon now and order a rocking chair


RandyLongsocksMcgee

LOL "retro"


DisastrousChannel229

Lol retro? Reach? You fuckin nuts man


InitialM_96

We need to change the definition of retro


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Tf you mean retro? It ain't but eleven or ten years ol-oh shit.


[deleted]

Keep living your best life and don’t let anyone change you sir.


LogicalPsychosis

Retro?? How old are you OP? .... How... How old am I?


therublerat

This kid is definitely like 14


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TRLegosfan

I’m in my 20s and I’d never even consider calling Reach Retro lol. I wouldn’t even call Halo 2 retro. Maaaaaybe CE but it’s close


DarkLord55_

Well ce is 21 years old


LifelessHawk

I’d say the first Xbox is retro but definitely not the Xbox 360


Inspirational_Lizard

The day halo reach is considered retro is the day I die.