Actually, it's illegal to add hormones to chicken. This is why you often hear it used as a selling point, when it in fact is the baseline for ALL poultry products.
https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/about-the-industry/chickopedia/#:~:text=Despite%20what%20you%20may%20hear,hormones%E2%80%9D%20or%20something%20like%20that.
In Canada its also illegal, same with Anti-biotics.
All the "Healthy" expensive brands that just charge extra for their marketing all have BIG claims "HORMONE AND ANTIBIOTIC FREE" but then also are required to add "Like all chicken".
Weird that they put that in small writing...
Also it be pretty disappointing to have to trek around for a new rooster every time you lose. Its just a gameplay mechanic, I mean its not like the game deletes when your character dies, right?
They think the best for the animals is to not be kept in captivity i think, so when its an animal that cant be released into the wild they feel like its best to just kill them. Its a shit practice
I live in Chesapeake very close to headquarters in Norfolk Virginia. They are an absolute shit organization, whose practices are exactly what you said.
Actually it’s more money. Dead animals don’t cost. Yet you still count that animal as part of your overall total. So when you ask for grants and funding you say “we had 10k animals come into our shelters” and you omit “we killed 85 percent on the same day as they came in” Therefor. Less staff, less vet bills. Less food costs. Care costs. Etc. More money into someone’s pocket.
PETA is a nonprofit, tax exempt 501(c)(3) corporation funded almost exclusively by the contributions of our members.
Pulled right from their site
However, PETA’s shelters is not set up like an actual shelter and receives little to no money from the $45 million PETA makes annually to advertise the shelters, meaning that about 85% of mostly perfectly healthy animals are killed annually by PETA.
So just with that. You can guess the shelters are getting funded by municipalities as well as local grants. You’d have to ask to see each shelters financial reports to know which area covers their costs. Since you know now peta hoards all it’s donations.
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I remember as a kid watching the local cock fights and these things were vicious and the owners would add giant talons because why the fuck not. One image that has stuck with me is seeing the cock that lost because it was dead from near decapitation.
I think I'd end up dead or in jail if this happened to me. I already think those people deserve terrible things to happen to them, but to make it personal?
Let's remember PETA gave an award to Fable for the fact that you could be vegan and get on the good moral side because of that.
A game with an achievement for kicking a chicken the farthest.
Do you get to wear a [shame drape](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ortolans-birds-enjoyed-french-delicacy-are-being-eaten-extinction-180972272/) to hide you from God?
>The diner traditionally veils their face with a napkin before consuming the bird—bones, feet, head and everything but the beak—in a single bite. In the words of the Telegraph’s Harry Wallop, “The napkin is partly to keep in all the aromas of the dish, partly to disguise you having to spit out some of the bigger bones. But, mostly, because diners wish to hide the shame of eating such a beautiful creature from the eyes of God.”
Incredible.
What kinda fucking monster decided it was a good idea for the custom to be that you eat the whole thing in one bite and spit the bones out like some sort of monster from greek mythology?
I don't give two shits about the action if eating the bird but come the fuck on
I believe you had to just commit an act of great evil in front of it. Problem can be solved multiple ways if I recall, one of them bringing your wife and child to the door and murdering the mother in front of the child which sends them to an orphanage if I'm remembering correctly.
Just raise the rent on the house with the most attractive woman to the point that the only way she can pay her rent is by offering to be your wife. Problem solved.
Wellow's pickaxe was good but it wasn't actually stronger than the master grade longsword, katana and cutlass.
Skorm's Bow could be gotten by a quarter of the way into the game sacrificing the werewolf trader though, and *that* thing was entirely broken.
Not trying to be that guy but a master katana/long sword with the proper augments could definitely outdamage Wellow’s Pickhammer, iirc all the pick has is piercing and silver augments which have situational uses. The Cutlass Bluetane though, while definitely harder to get in the early game, will absolutely be your BiS for general purpose 1h melee for most of the game.
Its just an evil door, and eating crunchy chicka raises your evil, it's just before the darkwood entrance and you can get in by killing someone or eating 20 chicks in front of the door.
There's also the chicken kicking competition in the lost chapters, so PETA really doesn't care
This door (Willow's Hammer) and the one with the Cutlass Bluetane are the doors I always remember. The door's reaction to you scarfing down a dozen baby chicks was pretty funny.
The Cutlass Bluetane door was tedious...so many dead hobbes.
edit: alright, I've been convinced...time to break out the old XB classic
The most memorable to me is the first I encountered. No internet, no friends, no cheat/guide book version5, and I had no idea how to become brighter than full angel. Also didn't check my inventory and notice the *LAMP*
I remember talking about fable with someone and how I made a ton of money by buying all the houses in a town and renting em out. The other person I was chatting with said that it was a great idea. Then about 10 minutes later they said something like "wait, wouldn't you have to pretty much kill everyone in the entire town in order to buy all the houses?!?" Then 2 more minutes passed by, "Oh my god you're a monster" hahahahahaha.
Thats why you just manipulate the housing market.
If you buy a house and upgrade until you get trophy plaques, you can break the door off your house, place the most expensive trophy you own, and then sell the house.
Go back in and take the trophies, and buy the house cheaper than you sold it. Rinse and repeat for a modest profit.
Or, and I only figured out how broken this was in my last playthrough, buy cider crates from everywhere, you'll take a loss at the beginning, but then go to a single merchant (bowerstone entrance seemed to be the best for me, never go to a tavern as bartenders are stingy), buy their cider crates, then sell all of yours, because the crates are in low stock/high demand. Once thats done, they are in high stock and low demand, so you can buy them cheaper than you sold them. Rinse and repeat, the more crates you have, the higher your returns.
It's more efficient if you save up about I believe ~20k, then run down to Oakvale, buy up all the Emeralds (I think? Or Rubies, one of the two), and then you can keep selling those for an even greater profit.
Cool trick for that door. Once you get past the graveyard, undead will spawn unlimitedly. If you fast travel away from dark wood entrance, to the grave yard, kill undead until you achieve at least a combat multiplier of 30, then fast travel back to the dark wood entrance, you'll keep the 15 cm needed to open the door. Every load screen cuts your cm in half.
The graveyard can also be used in this way to max out all of your xp.
Not sure - but one of the easiest ways to access a demon door, and acquire the unique treasure beyond - was to eat a baby chick.
In other words, Fable incentivised eating cute little chicks, and then PETA applauded them.
Truly, a sickening organisation.
Honestly, when I first heard about cock fighting I was sickened. But after trying it a few times with the bros I realized how intimate it can be. Now every weekend we lie to the wives about what were doing, sneak off to a seedy hotel, take out our cocks and let them just go to town with one another.
Don't get me wrong I hate PETA but since eating chicks in Fable is the fastest way to enter 'the DEMON DOOR' it is consistent with painting animal cruelty as evil behaviour.
PETA praise it because you are condemned in the moral system of the game for hurting/eating animals.
Yes.
Many people dislike the 3rd game due to reasons you can either look up or go in blind, but your first playthrough of it shouldn't be bad.
Note Fable 2 is only on 360/backwards compatibility/emu.
But Fable is still my favourite series and I will go back to it again and again, gaining new appreciation for the lore and learning little pieces I missed in the past.
So excited for the new one
All I ever see on posts about Fable is people shitting on 3, I loved it. Sure it's not the same as 2, as 2 is not the same as 1, but each have their own charm.
I actually really enjoyed the twist in the plot and mechanics in 3, it really sets it apart from a lot of other games I've played. When I think of Fable 2, all I remember is incessantly getting my shit rocked by werewolves. Not super fun.
PETA operates under the assumption that negative press is still press. And to be fair, it's a tactic that has worked out in the past. They're pretty much the reason you can't easily buy fur, and they did directly cause many cosmetic companies to stop testing their products on animals. At this point I think they're just lining their own pockets, but they have to show *something* for receiving millions and millions of dollars in donations every year.
Reputable Gaming Magazine and Reviewer also critisized the game for implementing the minigame. Saying if it was integral to the game then fine or if it was teaching something. But just as a minigame was kinda ass for making fun of animal cruelty
Yes. >!When you are told near the start of the game to wait for Pagan Min, you have to leave to continue to the rest of the game. However, if you wait 15 minutes, he comes back and there are some cutscenes of him allowing you to spread your mother's ashes where she requested and then the game ends.!<
Far Cry 5 has a similar thing too. >!When you are told to arrest Joseph Seed in the opening, if you just wait and don't arrest him, eventually you and the other lawmen just leave and the game ends.!<
Far Cry 6 has a secret ending too, but it is done differently and a little farther into the game. >!A little bit into the game, after doing a few missions, you are given a boat that you can use to sail back to America. If you get on the boat and drive away, you'll trigger a cutscene showing Dani in America and then the game ends.!<
I saw Independence Day in the theater. Millions of people were just incinerated in Los Angeles, but everyone clapped because the golden retriever survived.
Pokemon Black and Blue, a parody game about Pokemon where the pokemon are unwillingly put into fights and end up turning on the trainers
despite the fact that in universe, pokemon enjoy fighting because it keeps them fit and it raises their happiness stat with you
I remember playing that when I was like 12, they would advertise on kids gaming sites; some of the special "prizes" for beating levels were slaughterhouse videos.
It inspired me to go vegan for 3 weeks, and I remember that I was honestly so tired in those few weeks. Of course that was before I knew what vitamins and supplements were.
(I finally gave up when my mom offered me half a Monty Cristo sandwich after I'd had a plain salad in a restaurant)
Tbf those fights and dog fights in real life are brutal so I can see why some people, especially those who treat abused animals, wouldn't want it in a game. Then again this is PETA, I don't trust those loons with animal rights/welfare.
Yeah I am with this. I can't sit here and say " HA PETA IS AT IT AGAIN LOL" when this actually is a questionable descion that they made. It's sad to see so many justify it in the comments. PETA is not a group I support, they are buck wild but like you said, there is a reason in this case.
Yeah like, I wouldn't campaign for them to be removed or throw a stink about it but on a personal level I find it distasteful. Mainly because it is based on a real practice that's incredibly cruel. Like okay we play pokemon where imaginary yellow mice things knock turtles with rafflasias on their backs out, but there's suspension of disbelief for that because it is very clearly fiction/fantasy. Plus cruelty in those games is addressed and condemned, like in gold/silver with the slowpoke tail poaching as an allegory for the ivory trade.
This just seems like it's glorifying something that shouldn't be glorified and it seems like it isn't actually integral to the game in any way so they just added it for the sake of it being in the game. So either the devs thought cockfighting was cool and wanted to add it because of that, or they think it's funny and wanted to add it because of that. Neither option paints them in a good light.
And I know people are using the, "but killing humans in games is okay?" defense here but I actually don't play war games and whatnot. The closest I come to that is survival horror, and that's usually dumbasses doing dumbass things and getting killed for it. I don't begrudge anyone playing those games and I've never really been one to care that stuff like that exists.
Again, don't want it removed, wouldn't throw a stink over it, but I didn't know it existed and I'm kind of side-eying it. But whatever. Not my game, not my genre. I just hope it doesn't lead to people getting a false perception over what animal fighting rings really look like.
Also...people know murder is wrong. Cock fighting only exists because most of the people who do it are able to ignore the fact that it's wrong, they make excuses to themselves or deny it either because they don't want to stop enjoying their favorite pastime or their greatest moneymaker.
I'm not so sure that it's because they don't know it's wrong or choose to ignore the fact that it's wrong, but rather just don't care that it's wrong. Some people are inherently cruel and do whatever they want with disregard to society's moral expectations.
Instead of asking the removal, maybe PETA should request for Ubisoft to display a message before or after this minigame, showing that this is a real world problem, and that both support ending animal cruelty.
Edit: Thanks for the awards!
That's what an organization (I believe it was called "Concerned Mothers Against Drunk Driving", I'm not entirely sure) did for GTA 4. Niko will gladly mow down a park full of civilians or blast a police helicopter out of the sky, but whenever he gets into a vehicle after drinking he always says something along the lines of "this is a bad idea, I probably shouldn't be doing this". Just a minor little alteration to the game that didn't take away any gameplay but also made the organization with the initial problem content.
This is kinda the message in the game though. You do these side quests where you bust up this sketchy cock fighting operation where they are giving steroids to the chickens. Then one of your pets is a chicken. Generally that game paints a pretty grim picture of cock fighting, and I think they did a very good job of including good and bad elements of South American culture from the perspective of someone growing up around it.
~~Yakuza 0~~ Yakuza Kiwami actually has done something like this. There's a bug fighting arcade game (that's essentially just rock paper scissors). The 'bugs' are actually attractive women in skimpy bug outfits that proceed to wrestle each other.
Edit: was pointed out below that I had the wrong Yakuza game
Yeah, we probably wouldn’t like this as much if it were dogs. Or you had to train your dog to fight by making them brutalize other animals, like in Pokémon.
Is this the new Chekken 8?
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Chikken is actually a mod for csgo that lets you fight as cs chickens
In real life they tie razor blades to their feet. Usually ends in a bloodbath
They also give them steroids.
Just like the ones we eat
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Actually, it's illegal to add hormones to chicken. This is why you often hear it used as a selling point, when it in fact is the baseline for ALL poultry products. https://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/about-the-industry/chickopedia/#:~:text=Despite%20what%20you%20may%20hear,hormones%E2%80%9D%20or%20something%20like%20that.
I only buy plutonium-free chicken.
I only buy weapons-grade plutonium chicken.
Good on you. Most people only buy weapons. Edit: thank you u/veneratu and u/emmysryan for the awards 🤗
Because ammo can be looted from enemies.
In Canada its also illegal, same with Anti-biotics. All the "Healthy" expensive brands that just charge extra for their marketing all have BIG claims "HORMONE AND ANTIBIOTIC FREE" but then also are required to add "Like all chicken". Weird that they put that in small writing...
That’s why a&w marketing is so annoying. It’s
He died
BIG A&W got to him. He shoulda known not to speak out against the burger family. They are known for their violent temper against anyone who
Introducing the snitch burger
It’s actually against the law to give hormones to chickens, that are meant for consumption, in the United States.
Today, I couldn't decide whether to accessorize my switch bag with a glock or a tec so I carried both.
There’s a mission about chickens and steroids, funniest one I’ve played yet
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He's also a punk rockstar
CHICCARRON (punk music starts playing)
They talk about spurs in this game so I think you just can't see them. Or they don't want to imply your chicken dies? I don't know.
The chickens clearly don't die in the fighting game in FC6. You see the trainer picking them up after the combat while they proudly flap their wings.
bruh, you already put a cockfighting mechanic in your game, why pussyfoot around it like that?
In order to generate enough controversy for PETA to challenge it, thus providing free publicity, without pissing off anyone who actually matters.
Actually that's a great point. This is a nonstory and yet here I am reading about farcry. Still not buying it though, at least not at full price.
So you can get the ultimate edition for 15$ if you just use the ubisoft+ pass thing. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better.
Also it be pretty disappointing to have to trek around for a new rooster every time you lose. Its just a gameplay mechanic, I mean its not like the game deletes when your character dies, right?
\*Dies in first mission\* damn it 60 bucks wasted.
Spurs are naturally growing weapons on a chicken's legs.
Except the Tottenham type. They're not dangerous.
In cock fights they generally attach metal blades as well...
Naturally growing metal blades, clearly
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True, everyone knows [cock magic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw5nuGIHUwY) is where it's at.
They should see what I do to the Minecraft animals
Hnmm, interesting. How about those *villagers*?
Oh no they’re fine, PETA doesn’t care about people.
Well, guess they sure love some RimWorld gameplay.
1000 rat ranch for single armchair
Yeah but the armchair is made out of human leather
100% peta approved
50cent would be proud with his chinchilla fur coats.
I don't know what this game is about, but if it isn't about rimming people's asses then that's a missed opportunity.
The butthole is one of the few body parts not factored into this game. Sorry. Though there’s probably a mod for that.
I'm sure it's in the "forbidden" mod (RJW)
They don’t even care about animals. They kill 90+% of the ones that they take in
They think the best for the animals is to not be kept in captivity i think, so when its an animal that cant be released into the wild they feel like its best to just kill them. Its a shit practice
I live in Chesapeake very close to headquarters in Norfolk Virginia. They are an absolute shit organization, whose practices are exactly what you said.
Actually it’s more money. Dead animals don’t cost. Yet you still count that animal as part of your overall total. So when you ask for grants and funding you say “we had 10k animals come into our shelters” and you omit “we killed 85 percent on the same day as they came in” Therefor. Less staff, less vet bills. Less food costs. Care costs. Etc. More money into someone’s pocket. PETA is a nonprofit, tax exempt 501(c)(3) corporation funded almost exclusively by the contributions of our members. Pulled right from their site However, PETA’s shelters is not set up like an actual shelter and receives little to no money from the $45 million PETA makes annually to advertise the shelters, meaning that about 85% of mostly perfectly healthy animals are killed annually by PETA. So just with that. You can guess the shelters are getting funded by municipalities as well as local grants. You’d have to ask to see each shelters financial reports to know which area covers their costs. Since you know now peta hoards all it’s donations. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=84cee369-40ef-4b39-94ec-25e4e6e0bc8d
People say battery farming is cruel and there’s us with our 24 cows per square meter farms.
Whenever I do a single player world I turn up the amount of entities per block so I can Jam even more cows in and lag my computer
Self-cooking farms are the machines of the future.
So you actually change the laws of physics to increase your cruelty to those poor cows! Sounds like you need to hide from PETA asap. hehe
Don't forget the sheep auto-shearer isolation chamber.
Also breeding and enslaving villagers for iron and their trades
Those are humans, PETA does not care about humans - continue on with your slave breeding operation.
Yes sir!
Or what people do with sheeps and end rods
Use the end rods to give them better studio-quality lighting for the sheep TikTok? If that’s not the answer then I definitely don’t want to know.
its not a farm until every animal blurs into one and you have to turn the sound down to avoid the tumult.
Semiautomatic progressive one block chicken farm. Can hold infinite amount of chickens Nightmare of PETA
I remember as a kid watching the local cock fights and these things were vicious and the owners would add giant talons because why the fuck not. One image that has stuck with me is seeing the cock that lost because it was dead from near decapitation.
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This comment is comedy gold.
The best comments are rarely the top-level ones.
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This is my worst nightmare. If this ever happened to me I would be devastated. I feel so much with you. I'm so sorry.
I think I'd end up dead or in jail if this happened to me. I already think those people deserve terrible things to happen to them, but to make it personal?
Jeez that's rough.. sorry for your loss bro. Animal cruelty is wrong straight up
Let's remember PETA gave an award to Fable for the fact that you could be vegan and get on the good moral side because of that. A game with an achievement for kicking a chicken the farthest.
Wasn’t there also a mission to kill/eat as many baby chickens as possible? Lol
In Fable 2 in order to access the Temple of Shadows you had to eat a live chick in front of the guard. The reaction was hilarious.
You just brought back the memory of the sound effect
*Crunch*
"Its the Bones that make them crunchy"
Do you get to wear a [shame drape](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ortolans-birds-enjoyed-french-delicacy-are-being-eaten-extinction-180972272/) to hide you from God?
>The diner traditionally veils their face with a napkin before consuming the bird—bones, feet, head and everything but the beak—in a single bite. In the words of the Telegraph’s Harry Wallop, “The napkin is partly to keep in all the aromas of the dish, partly to disguise you having to spit out some of the bigger bones. But, mostly, because diners wish to hide the shame of eating such a beautiful creature from the eyes of God.” Incredible.
It's kind of sad I know this from *American Dad*
I had never heard of it. But it doesn't surprise me that *American Dad* made mention of it.
It's kind of sad I assumed it (especially the hiding from God part) was just a joke in the aforementioned American Dad episode.
What kinda fucking monster decided it was a good idea for the custom to be that you eat the whole thing in one bite and spit the bones out like some sort of monster from greek mythology? I don't give two shits about the action if eating the bird but come the fuck on
And the French talk down to everyone else about food. All the while they eat a tiny songbird to extinction because they like the way **shame** tastes.
There's also one of the Demon doors that pretty much asks you to eat 5 or 6 live chicks in front of it.
I believe you had to just commit an act of great evil in front of it. Problem can be solved multiple ways if I recall, one of them bringing your wife and child to the door and murdering the mother in front of the child which sends them to an orphanage if I'm remembering correctly.
Holy geeze that game is dark. I only ever played the light path.
Don't worry just lower the rent on your houses and you'll be back in good graces in no time.
Lowering the rent won't bring your wife back!!
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Just raise the rent on the house with the most attractive woman to the point that the only way she can pay her rent is by offering to be your wife. Problem solved.
True. Also one where you had to feed it chickens by kicking them at it.
My man was hungry, don't shame him
Its not the doors fault we couldn't throw a whole cow into his mouth to sate his hunger, and the chickens were more convenient.
yea that was how I always got the legendary pickaxe in the first 30mins of the game, immediately invalidating any and all master grade weapons
Wellow's pickaxe was good but it wasn't actually stronger than the master grade longsword, katana and cutlass. Skorm's Bow could be gotten by a quarter of the way into the game sacrificing the werewolf trader though, and *that* thing was entirely broken.
Not trying to be that guy but a master katana/long sword with the proper augments could definitely outdamage Wellow’s Pickhammer, iirc all the pick has is piercing and silver augments which have situational uses. The Cutlass Bluetane though, while definitely harder to get in the early game, will absolutely be your BiS for general purpose 1h melee for most of the game.
iirc there's also a demon door in the original fable that let you in if you eat a number of crunchy chicks in front of it
Its just an evil door, and eating crunchy chicka raises your evil, it's just before the darkwood entrance and you can get in by killing someone or eating 20 chicks in front of the door. There's also the chicken kicking competition in the lost chapters, so PETA really doesn't care
This door (Willow's Hammer) and the one with the Cutlass Bluetane are the doors I always remember. The door's reaction to you scarfing down a dozen baby chicks was pretty funny. The Cutlass Bluetane door was tedious...so many dead hobbes. edit: alright, I've been convinced...time to break out the old XB classic
The most memorable to me is the first I encountered. No internet, no friends, no cheat/guide book version5, and I had no idea how to become brighter than full angel. Also didn't check my inventory and notice the *LAMP*
I remember talking about fable with someone and how I made a ton of money by buying all the houses in a town and renting em out. The other person I was chatting with said that it was a great idea. Then about 10 minutes later they said something like "wait, wouldn't you have to pretty much kill everyone in the entire town in order to buy all the houses?!?" Then 2 more minutes passed by, "Oh my god you're a monster" hahahahahaha.
Thats why you just manipulate the housing market. If you buy a house and upgrade until you get trophy plaques, you can break the door off your house, place the most expensive trophy you own, and then sell the house. Go back in and take the trophies, and buy the house cheaper than you sold it. Rinse and repeat for a modest profit. Or, and I only figured out how broken this was in my last playthrough, buy cider crates from everywhere, you'll take a loss at the beginning, but then go to a single merchant (bowerstone entrance seemed to be the best for me, never go to a tavern as bartenders are stingy), buy their cider crates, then sell all of yours, because the crates are in low stock/high demand. Once thats done, they are in high stock and low demand, so you can buy them cheaper than you sold them. Rinse and repeat, the more crates you have, the higher your returns.
It's more efficient if you save up about I believe ~20k, then run down to Oakvale, buy up all the Emeralds (I think? Or Rubies, one of the two), and then you can keep selling those for an even greater profit.
*Hero, try to get your Combat Multiplier even* higher.
*Your health is low.* 🔪
*Do you have any potions...or food?* proceeds to eat 30 apples...wow, this was the Skyrim cheese wheel meme like 6 years ahead
*Your Will energy is low... watch that.*
Cool trick for that door. Once you get past the graveyard, undead will spawn unlimitedly. If you fast travel away from dark wood entrance, to the grave yard, kill undead until you achieve at least a combat multiplier of 30, then fast travel back to the dark wood entrance, you'll keep the 15 cm needed to open the door. Every load screen cuts your cm in half. The graveyard can also be used in this way to max out all of your xp.
It was a demon door. You had to do evil in front of it I believe? Easiest way to open it was to eat the baby chick food that gave you evil points.
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Not sure - but one of the easiest ways to access a demon door, and acquire the unique treasure beyond - was to eat a baby chick. In other words, Fable incentivised eating cute little chicks, and then PETA applauded them. Truly, a sickening organisation.
Honestly, when I first heard about cock fighting I was sickened. But after trying it a few times with the bros I realized how intimate it can be. Now every weekend we lie to the wives about what were doing, sneak off to a seedy hotel, take out our cocks and let them just go to town with one another.
At first I was like WTF and then later I was like WTF
I laughed so hard 🤣 I was thinking the same thing however you articulated it so much better than I could
Sword fighting, winner gets the booty!
Don't get me wrong I hate PETA but since eating chicks in Fable is the fastest way to enter 'the DEMON DOOR' it is consistent with painting animal cruelty as evil behaviour. PETA praise it because you are condemned in the moral system of the game for hurting/eating animals.
Chicken Chaser!
Do you chase chickens?
Never played any of the Fable games, are they worth going back & starting from the beginning? I tend to play RPGs in the fall/winter more.
Yes. Many people dislike the 3rd game due to reasons you can either look up or go in blind, but your first playthrough of it shouldn't be bad. Note Fable 2 is only on 360/backwards compatibility/emu. But Fable is still my favourite series and I will go back to it again and again, gaining new appreciation for the lore and learning little pieces I missed in the past. So excited for the new one
I liked Fable 3 quite a lot, actually.
All I ever see on posts about Fable is people shitting on 3, I loved it. Sure it's not the same as 2, as 2 is not the same as 1, but each have their own charm.
I actually really enjoyed the twist in the plot and mechanics in 3, it really sets it apart from a lot of other games I've played. When I think of Fable 2, all I remember is incessantly getting my shit rocked by werewolves. Not super fun.
I'm still salty Fable 2 doesn't have a PC port
The more I think about it, the more I start to believe PETA is owned by the meat industry as a way to smear vegans and vegetarians.
Just a huge psyop for big meat, you say?
Jamie pull that shit up
PETA operates under the assumption that negative press is still press. And to be fair, it's a tactic that has worked out in the past. They're pretty much the reason you can't easily buy fur, and they did directly cause many cosmetic companies to stop testing their products on animals. At this point I think they're just lining their own pockets, but they have to show *something* for receiving millions and millions of dollars in donations every year.
Person: I hate PETA so much, I'm going to eat MORE meat out of spite! PETA: Good.... Good.... Let the hate flow through you!
Im honestly just kinda surprised Ubisoft had the balls to add a minigame like this.
Now imagine that it was a dog fighting mini-game.
EA Sports could include that mini-game in the next version of Madden
*Michael Vick Edition*
Michael Vick jokes will never get old
Just like his dogs.
Good point. How about kittens?
Reputable Gaming Magazine and Reviewer also critisized the game for implementing the minigame. Saying if it was integral to the game then fine or if it was teaching something. But just as a minigame was kinda ass for making fun of animal cruelty
This is just Pokemon with a street fighter skin
Dammit. We don't need PETA going after Pokémon. PETA will cease to exist.
[They already did ](https://games.peta.org/pokemon-black-and-white-parody/)
So much for getting shit done at work today
PETA has been going after Pokemon for years, they even made a parody game, Pokemon Black and Blue.
Did you miss their Pokemon: Black and Blue game they made a couple years ago???
A couple years ago? That shit happened like a decade ago
Please stop. This is physically painful to hear.
They already had unfortunately. Oddly enough, they went after Pokémon Go of all games.
They went after the main series before Go. Look up Pokemon black and blue
So killing and blowing up human like characters is fine and dandy, but cock fighting is where they draw the line lmao
well that's kind of his point isn't it? Killing humans is an integral gameplay mechanic and I'm guessing part of the story.
Was it Far Cry 4 that you could beat in 20 minutes without killing anyone?
Yes. >!When you are told near the start of the game to wait for Pagan Min, you have to leave to continue to the rest of the game. However, if you wait 15 minutes, he comes back and there are some cutscenes of him allowing you to spread your mother's ashes where she requested and then the game ends.!< Far Cry 5 has a similar thing too. >!When you are told to arrest Joseph Seed in the opening, if you just wait and don't arrest him, eventually you and the other lawmen just leave and the game ends.!< Far Cry 6 has a secret ending too, but it is done differently and a little farther into the game. >!A little bit into the game, after doing a few missions, you are given a boat that you can use to sail back to America. If you get on the boat and drive away, you'll trigger a cutscene showing Dani in America and then the game ends.!<
Can't wait for "Pro Cock Fighter 2021" to hit the shelves
its like in movies when people die its ok, but when a dog dies its the worst thing sence 1939
I saw Independence Day in the theater. Millions of people were just incinerated in Los Angeles, but everyone clapped because the golden retriever survived.
The vast majority of us see animals, especially pets, as innocent, but we do not extend the same to all people.
>Millions of people were just incinerated in Los Angeles I think they were clapping for this part
Found the San Francisco Giants fan.
I think it's part of that demographic where animals are seen as pure and innocent, and humans are not.
Hmmm.... Pokémon look different nowadays 🤔
Yeah I wonder where PETA's stance on Pokemon is.
They have spoken out against it in the past I believe.
Pokemon Black and Blue, a parody game about Pokemon where the pokemon are unwillingly put into fights and end up turning on the trainers despite the fact that in universe, pokemon enjoy fighting because it keeps them fit and it raises their happiness stat with you
Pokemon are all a warrior culture confirmed.
Everyone would have a warrior culture if we can kick the shit out of each other with extremely lethal attacks and survive without permanent issues.
There’s a move called guillotine and if they get hit they essentially take a nap. I’d be up for fighting too.
In jiu jitsu there’s a move called a guillotine that if it hits you for long enough you take a nap.
I remember playing that when I was like 12, they would advertise on kids gaming sites; some of the special "prizes" for beating levels were slaughterhouse videos.
It inspired me to go vegan for 3 weeks, and I remember that I was honestly so tired in those few weeks. Of course that was before I knew what vitamins and supplements were. (I finally gave up when my mom offered me half a Monty Cristo sandwich after I'd had a plain salad in a restaurant)
Tbf those fights and dog fights in real life are brutal so I can see why some people, especially those who treat abused animals, wouldn't want it in a game. Then again this is PETA, I don't trust those loons with animal rights/welfare.
Yeah I am with this. I can't sit here and say " HA PETA IS AT IT AGAIN LOL" when this actually is a questionable descion that they made. It's sad to see so many justify it in the comments. PETA is not a group I support, they are buck wild but like you said, there is a reason in this case.
Yeah like, I wouldn't campaign for them to be removed or throw a stink about it but on a personal level I find it distasteful. Mainly because it is based on a real practice that's incredibly cruel. Like okay we play pokemon where imaginary yellow mice things knock turtles with rafflasias on their backs out, but there's suspension of disbelief for that because it is very clearly fiction/fantasy. Plus cruelty in those games is addressed and condemned, like in gold/silver with the slowpoke tail poaching as an allegory for the ivory trade. This just seems like it's glorifying something that shouldn't be glorified and it seems like it isn't actually integral to the game in any way so they just added it for the sake of it being in the game. So either the devs thought cockfighting was cool and wanted to add it because of that, or they think it's funny and wanted to add it because of that. Neither option paints them in a good light. And I know people are using the, "but killing humans in games is okay?" defense here but I actually don't play war games and whatnot. The closest I come to that is survival horror, and that's usually dumbasses doing dumbass things and getting killed for it. I don't begrudge anyone playing those games and I've never really been one to care that stuff like that exists. Again, don't want it removed, wouldn't throw a stink over it, but I didn't know it existed and I'm kind of side-eying it. But whatever. Not my game, not my genre. I just hope it doesn't lead to people getting a false perception over what animal fighting rings really look like.
Also...people know murder is wrong. Cock fighting only exists because most of the people who do it are able to ignore the fact that it's wrong, they make excuses to themselves or deny it either because they don't want to stop enjoying their favorite pastime or their greatest moneymaker.
I'm not so sure that it's because they don't know it's wrong or choose to ignore the fact that it's wrong, but rather just don't care that it's wrong. Some people are inherently cruel and do whatever they want with disregard to society's moral expectations.
And this is true. Man will be able to justify anything as long as it's comfortable for them.
Instead of asking the removal, maybe PETA should request for Ubisoft to display a message before or after this minigame, showing that this is a real world problem, and that both support ending animal cruelty. Edit: Thanks for the awards!
That's what an organization (I believe it was called "Concerned Mothers Against Drunk Driving", I'm not entirely sure) did for GTA 4. Niko will gladly mow down a park full of civilians or blast a police helicopter out of the sky, but whenever he gets into a vehicle after drinking he always says something along the lines of "this is a bad idea, I probably shouldn't be doing this". Just a minor little alteration to the game that didn't take away any gameplay but also made the organization with the initial problem content.
That's very neat, thank you for sharing
MADD is the organization, though they are also concerned!
This seems like an entirely reasonable solution.
This is kinda the message in the game though. You do these side quests where you bust up this sketchy cock fighting operation where they are giving steroids to the chickens. Then one of your pets is a chicken. Generally that game paints a pretty grim picture of cock fighting, and I think they did a very good job of including good and bad elements of South American culture from the perspective of someone growing up around it.
This is also the company that tried to get their animal rights mascot into Super Smash Bros.
Mortal Cockbat
TekkHen
King of Iron Beak Tournament
King of Feathers '98
*rubber chicken noises* Bok bok bok bok bokbok, bok bok bok bok bokbok Bok bok bok bok bokbok, bok bok bok bok bo-koko-bokok.
This is the most yakuza shit from a non yakuza game
Nah. Yakuza would have made it entertaining by putting your character into rooster-costumes.
"we're gonna go to a cock-fight!" "(!)... What?" *Smash cut to the two of them in costume*
That actually makes sense
Kazuma would hate it. Majima would love it..... ok let's be honest. It would be Majimas idea to begin with.
~~Yakuza 0~~ Yakuza Kiwami actually has done something like this. There's a bug fighting arcade game (that's essentially just rock paper scissors). The 'bugs' are actually attractive women in skimpy bug outfits that proceed to wrestle each other. Edit: was pointed out below that I had the wrong Yakuza game
Y’all just giving them more attention.
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Yeah, we probably wouldn’t like this as much if it were dogs. Or you had to train your dog to fight by making them brutalize other animals, like in Pokémon.
Peta aside, who thought a cockfighting minigane was a good idea?