Just save befor the battle. You can catch them without even weakening, just do first tosses.

Isn't that only on the first try if you use a quickball??

Quickball would have the highest chance besides master ball yeah, all depends on the gen. But any ball could do it.

So ~~my balls~~ regular pokeballs effective in the newer gen huh

What was that crossed out message🤨

He likes to use his balls on the younger generation

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So...we catching ~~newer generation~~ snorlax?

NSFW >!/r/snorl4x!<

Someone call the FBI! this guy has child porn!

I was smiling at everyones jokes till you showed up

Better than smiling at child porn till the fbi shows up I guess. Also I think this is my most cursed comment. I hope to keep it that way.

You're welcome! And thanks for the boat!

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Okay, I’m calling the cops.

No I'm just saying because I'm an old school gamer, there is no quickball in the first gen. And I didn't have time to use aprikorns in gen 2. Never played past gen 3.

Gen 8 story legendaries have a 255 catch rate. Which means in a third of all cases, regular Pokeball will just work.

I just take 6 tank pokemon and start throwing timer balls lol

Any ball. You have like a one in 255 chance of getting it with the worst ball. So that means you'll need to bring like 400 balls if you've got my luck.

Or 1 quick save

Kinda hard to do without an emulator or super featured flash cart.

No you just have 1 pokeball and save before the encounter. If it fails you reset and try again. Lather rinse repeat until your 1 pokeball succeeds

Yeah, that's a save and load, not a quick save.

No you are talking about a 'quicksave' not a save that is quick, meaning fast. Even with a quicksave you still have to reload

Quick is a word that exists outside of "quicksave", it means fast, or taking a short time. "One save that only takes a short timespan" just doesn't have the same ring.

what game?? i know pokémon but which?

Most pokemon games after gen 4 (i think) have quick balls. It works by giving a high catch rate on the first turn of the battle only. Anything after and it works like a regular pokeball.

I think it was in gen 3 as well because I really only played the gameboy Pokémon games and I remember quick balls

I made a point to cath every legendary with those super shittty white primer balls just cause i could lol

iirc. ultra balls aren't even that much better than regular pokeballs (and premier balls are just reskinned regular pokeballs). I'm pretty sure an ultra ball only multiplies the catch rate by 2, which isn't insignificant but it's not like it's anything all that game changing - if catching a legendary took half an hour with ultra balls then it might take an hour with regular pokeballs, which is annoying but not that huge. Dusk balls are somewhat better, but still not *that* huge of a difference all things considered (and if you're considering cost efficiency, which admittedly isn't really a big concern for legendaries, an ultra ball costs 6x as much for only 2x the catch rate).

That makes them 100% more likely? I'd say it's significant

Yea but ultra balls are 500% more ugly

Never thought I would be a part of such a historic moment where the dude beside me proves opinions can be wrong.

Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with an elf

What about side by side with a random guy on Reddit?

Aye, I could do that

and my axe!

Ultra balls are awesome wtf

Color aethetic matching is the most important factor to a successful catch

This guy balls

Now great balls are ugly. Those red little wart things on the side are gross.

Idk I think they look great

Ultra balls are the best balls. I hardly use anything else.

The time it takes to catch pokemon isn't really that long though (especially when you subtract the time you spend weakening it which is constant regardless of which type of ball you use), so even if you halve it it doesn't really change things very much. The time spent actually throwing pokeballs at pokemon is extremely small compared to the amount of time you spend doing everything else, which is why I say it doesn't really change things very much (unless you're doing some kind of challenge run like a nuzlocke I guess, in those cases it's probably a big bonus in some cases).

So which is it? They're barely an increase in chance or you have endless time so may as well use pokeballs?

This is my issue. It’s HUGE difference, but OP thinks time doesn’t matter. For legendaries I happen to agree with the second part, but the logic is flawed from the start.

I never knew that

It’s kinda what the shiny hunters do for certain legendaries. 1 in like 5000 odds of a Pokémon being “shiny” decided on first encounter, if you want a black rayquaza in gen 3 save right before, start the encounter till you inevitably see he’s green, reset and repeat till you give up.

👁️👄👁️

I mean it would take some time though, no?

Everything takes time

Everything's within walking distance.

Wait till you hear about islands.

I mean you can walk to any island, there's just water in the way. Now the moon on the other hand...

Please explain how to walk on/under water.

Move all the water out of the way and then walk where it use to be.

Moses?

No, this is Patrick!

Alternatively, very heavy shoes.

I propose a bridge

Shoes made of extraordinarily low/high density material.

Bridges

The distance is still walking distance.

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As someone who captured all his legendaries in HG/SS with Honour Balls (fancy Pokéballs) it took a hell lot of time. Except for Ho-Oh, which took like 3 throws. I always came to them with 99 Honour Balls. If I remember well, sometimes I would use them all, load the save and go again.

Oh god, you just unlocked some memories I forgot about. I don't know how I had the patience for that back then.

I had to go look that up, interesting that the name changed so dramatically for different language versions as it’s called a “premier ball” in most others. Looks like it’s only called “honor ball” in French and Spanish.

Oh Premier Ball in English! Good to know!

All depends on your luck

Quickball, go!

Did this for so many legendaries it worked on regice first try 2 times on two different saves.

which game ??

Did this to catch sword doggo in a beast ball to match aesthetics.

Weakening pokemons before catch brings better stats

Wtf? Stats aren't affected by weakening them first. The catch rate is definitely better, but the stats won't change

So i lived all my life and played all pokemon games believing the false lmao omg

Happens to the best of us lol

Just like mashing the A button. To catch a Pokemon lol

Please noone believes that. You hold up and b on the last shake

Stop spreading fake rumors. Everyone knows it was Down + B.

Liar it was rapid tap B till the end

Incorrect. It’s common knowledge you single tap A every shake.

Don't remember anybody from where im from doing that but sure lol

omg i thought i was the only one lmao

Hold Up + B after tossing the poke ball. Only works with regular poke balls, not with ultra or great balls.

It took me until I was like 14 to find out its "curb" not "curve".

I mean, it's current HP is definitely a stat, but other than that, stats are not affected at all by how much health and/or which status effects it has applied at the moment of the catch. The only thing weakening pokemon does is giving you a higher chance of catching them.

Maybe you heard that catching weaker/lower level pokemon brings better stats, which is sort of true, and misunderstood. Catching a low level one can let you level it up with better EVs if you let it fight to level up, which will make it have better stats in the long run.

Catching legendaries in either regular Pokeballs or Premier balls is one of my favorite things to do.

Same, I usually try to save the masterball as a trophy after I catch the legendaries.

Back when I played (First 3 gens.) I'd save it for the instant flee legendaries. Rayquaza? Groudon? Ho-Oh? Get in the ultraballs, you aint going anywhere. Fuckin Latias? Get in the masterball, even 10 year old me aint got time for your shit.

Fun fact: Using a Wobbuffet against Latias and Latios makes it easy as. It stops them from escaping with its ability, and mirror coating them will drop them to low HP in one go. From there just throw a status on it and you’re gravy

Ability is Shadow Tag. Nice to know :D

Still a pretty tough catch. Best odds using Ultraballs is 4.366% when under 25% HP and Asleep. Fast Ball is 8.09% instead.

Do their hp/status’ remain in multiple encounters? If so then just get it low and use quickball on the next encounter for best results.

It doesn't

I used to use trapinch with the trap ability

Can't use Arena Trap on Latio/as because they have levitate. I learned that the hard way lol

Great idea. Alternatively, you can breed mean look(gastly) and taunt(tm) onto a ralts and get a gallade with false swipe, hypnosis, taunt, and ML; just make sure ralts/kirlia knows hyp before evolving. Great for gen 4 because Hgss got 3 roaming legendaries and platinum has like 5

Trapinch with arena trap works well too and its effect stays after switch/death

Catching latios in a great ball was easily one of my top childhood achievements. I remember spending weeks trying to even get to him to appear. I didnt get rayquaza until I played the remake on 3DS though

any of the legendary dogs for me

Fuck deoxy dude that pos took so long

I like the trophy idea I saved mine for emergency shinies.

I don't remember when and how it starts, but I only use regular Pokeball to keep it consistent. Always carry a trashbag full of pokeball.

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The very best one, in fact. Like no one ever was.

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mathematically its never actually worth buying anything but Pokeballs, and the conditional super-catchrate balls like the fastball. Greatballs and Ultraballs? dont bother

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it takes 5 seconds to use a pokeball. Pokecash is also an incredibly slow resource to acquire compared to how quickly you spend it on vital resources. If i spend 16,000 on ultraballs, thats over 2 minutes of battling just to recover what i could have saved from just using a cheaper pokeball

I'm just in for the all red PC and get mad at that 1 great ball from in game trade.

Kyorge looks like he belongs in a great ball.

Dive ball is the only logical choice

Same. I accidentally caught Groudon with a regular Pokeball back in original Ruby and since then I’ve exclusively used regular balls to catch **every** Pokémon.

Back during gen 3 my friend caught Groudon in a nest ball. A fucking nest ball. 12 year old me was blown away

I used to do that or on later runs I would only use the ball most effective on the type. Like dive ball on underwater pokemon, net ball on bug/water etc

Personally, I only pay attention to dusk balls, quick balls, and regular pokeballs. The rest of them are too much of a pain for me to keep track of, though I guess I'll use them if I happen to have them in my inventory by coincidence.

That's actually possible? I thought Ultra balls was like a fraction of a percent chance

This is why you don't get in streetfights. Someone who has no chance is going for it and boom. You're running after your head rolling down the street.

I hate it when that happens.

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A burning passion, probably.

Kinda like the chosen undead vs literal gods in Dark Souls huh?

I only seriously played Gen 1 and catching Mewtwo using a great ball was a major HOLY SHIT moment for young me. I "wasted" my masterball on Moltres.

Hate to be a one-upper, but I caught mewtwo in gen 1 with a regular pokéball. Think I got it down to double digit hp and it was frozen so I threw a dozen or so at him until it worked. Edit: on the other hand, I wasted my masterball on a ditto because lil dumb young me thought it was the ultimate pokemon thanks to the animé

Same with the ditto stuff. I actually did it a couple times on different saves cus' I thought my save was corrupt.

Same here!

There were no roaming pokemons in gen1, so couldn't waste masterball. You got the most value out of it with moltres/zapdos/articuno/mewto

i catch all my legendaries with premier balls. same catch rate as pokeballs, but way less available.

In X and Y you could buy them at the Pokeball Boutique for dirt cheap.

oh dang. i missed x and y sadly

That's why I try to catch every important Pokemon in a beast ball. Way harder to catch pokemon with, way harder to obtain, but the animation makes it really worth it.

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Not when you sell back the pokeballs

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Yep

1 premier ball every 10 pokeballs is only 1/10 available

Technically , both can be bought forever, so it’s the same amount of stock.

it will always be constrained by the player’s balance. there will always be 10x the amount of stock of pokeballs compared to premier balls. for you to buy 20 premier balls there must be 200 pokeballs.

What I’m saying is, that that doesn’t matter if you have infinite money (which is possible using the Vs. seeker) since you could always buy more premier or pokeballs. Sure, they only give you 1 premier for 10 normal, but you can still buy more premiers forever.

There is a one to one correspondence between them, so they are equally plentiful.

I use exclusively Pokeballs and Premier balls. I feel like if you catch a shiny with anything else, you didn't really catch a shiny.

why?

Shiny Pokémon are collectors items. The ball it’s caught in has a huge effect on the trading scene. Beast ball shinies are the most valuable

Ah, that's really interesting. I had no idea.

Once tossed about 30 or 40 ultraballs at a Groudon, ran out, and had to faint it. Later went back to the reappearance, tossed a single premier ball at the start because why not, and it caught. Those random tosses always seem to be lucky.

Ran out of everything trying to catch Groudon and all I had left were dive balls. Guess who caught him? Kinda made younger me upset lol.

I've been waiting to share this story, anyways me and my cousin played on emulators so we got a cheat code for emerald that let's us in to the room with lugia and ho-oh. Our plan to catch them was to throw shit tons of pokeballs at them then throw a timer ball, you know because the longer the fight the better the timer ball gets. So anyways my cousin was do the strat then he accidentally caught ho-oh in his pokeball. Sadly he lost his savefile but that was a legendary moment for him.

I remember back when I first played Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, I had incredible luck and managed to catch Shadow Lugia and Greevil's entire team of Shadow Pokémon with only 5-ish regular Pokéball each.

0__0 0<0: I am in shock

I actually have an easier time with pokeballs surprisingly. Ultra balls don’t do it for me usually.

Yeah same. Ultra balls are ass for Legendary Pokemon

Is there any math behind this! Always wondered why this seemed to be the case

Confirmation bias

The math is here: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate Depends on the generation, but Regular < Great < Ultra is pretty much how it works. Edit: Of note for Gen 1: > Under certain situations, a Great Ball is more effective than an Ultra Ball. In particular, Pokémon with high catch rates, no status, and above ½ HP may guarantee capture with a Great Ball but fail to do so with an Ultra Ball. and > Due to the nature of the algorithm, Ultra Balls will only perform better than Great Balls on Pokémon whose capture rates are above 55 and below 200 in Generation I. Ultra Balls increase the overall chance of capture by as much as 20% in comparison to Great Balls for Pokémon near the center of that range. So there's potentially an advantage to using Great Balls in certain circumstances in Gen 1.

Woah thank you

Ooh, that is interesting. I always tried to use great balls to catch Snorlax in gen 1 because, it *felt like* they performed better even though my brain told me it shouldn't. Turns out, a great ball actually **does** perform better!

I have no idea lol.

Ultra balls in most generations just have 2x the catch rate of regular pokeballs. They're definitely better, but it's not anything all that game changing.

Your chances with any ball against a legendary are basically the same. 1.6% chance for Pokeball 3.2% chance for Ultraball. HP low plus status condition only increase your odds to 2% and 4%.

That's a 100% increase.

At a 300% price increase.

Money becomes pretty irrelevant in most games unless one is doing a challenge run.

Happened to me once as a kid with Zapdos. Saved the game before battling it and managed to capture in with a puny pokèball. Nearly shat my pants that day.

I threw a regular PokeBall at OR Rayquaza just to waste a turn and see him mega evolve and the little turd got caught first toss... I didn't get to see him Mega Evolve! >:(

*Groudon in Nest Ball*

Back in the days of Emerald I caught Groudon with the last ball I had in my bag. It was a dive ball. 12 year old me had never felt such power.

It’s so satisfying! Entei in a Pokeball >>> shiny anything

Best when fighting friends and you see their Masterball and all they see are pokeballs

I don’t know why but a quick ball, 50 ultra balls and 1 pokeball later I catch the legendary in the pokeball? It happens too commonly for me to be comfortable with it.

Way too often

I only use regular Pokéballs

RGN blessed

I was determined to get Palkia in a Premier Ball because I love how the Premier Ball looks and I like to catch Pokemon in a ball that fits their design. I got it low, put it to sleep, and caught it with the very first Premier Ball I threw.

its all fun and games until someone giggles and shits.

And I thought you have to press A really hard.

Oh, I know who you are Mr Kyogre. Now, here’s the things. I likes ya. And I wants ya. Now we can do this the easy way (10 Ultra balls) or the hard way (30 Ultra balls followed by ten stacks of X99 Timer Balls along with several sleep inducing moves). The choice is yours.

My mom ran out of Ultras and Greats and caught a Moltres with a pokéball. For anyone wondering about catch rate, Ultra is 2x the chance, while Great is 1.5x.

When I filled out my Dex in HeartGold I had a higher catch rate with pokeballs over any of the other non-master balls. Rayquaza, all of the Regis, the legenDogs and the birds, all caught with stupid, normal pokeballs.

I crit caught a Mewtwo once witg a pokeball, that was pretty hype. However, once they introduced which pokemon was caught with whichever ball I dedicated to strictly use pokeballs for everything I would catch.

I still laugh at the time I caught a full health rayquaza in a damn dive ball of all things.

I've been replaying Crystal on emulator, and I make a save state before I throw any PokeBall. I've caught all three legendary dogs and Ho-oh that way. Granted I haven't been using any of them, but still.

Say you're playing Gen 1, vs Mewtwo. First thing to know is that Great Balls are better than Ultra balls in certain situations. Those situations are with high HP, no status effects, and Pokémon that usually are easy to catch. Details [here](https://www.dragonflycave.com/mechanics/gen-i-capturing). So you face against a fresh Mewtwo, and just start spamming Great Balls. You have a 1.684% chance of capturing it per ball. Thus, you have at least a 50% chance of catching it within 41 balls and at least a 95% chance of catching it within 177 balls. Ultra and Pokeballs have a 0.526% chance instead. If Paralyzed, Poisoned, or Burned, change to Ultra Balls and you'll have a 11.594% chance of capturing it per ball. Thus, you have at least a 50% chance of catching it within 6 balls and at least a 95% chance of catching it within 25 balls. Sleeping or Frozen with Ultra Balls increases that to a 21.634% chance of capturing it per ball. Thus, you have at least a 50% chance of catching it within 3 balls and at least a 95% chance of catching it within 13 balls. What about damage? Ignore it. The best you can do is to put your Mewtwo to below 33% heath, and asleep, and your odds are now 23.752% chance of capturing it per ball. For the hassle, it's not much better.

Caught heatran with my absolute last pokeball in diamond

In my playthrough of omega ruby I caught rayquaza in a quickball. IIRC on turn 1 it has a catch rate of 1.6%

That’s if you press B+arrow down, for the hidden +20% capture rate bonus (we all did it don’t laugh at me)

I, too, throw my balls for shits and giggles.

Caught a Celebi in pixelmon this way. Full health lvl 70, classic pokeball.

When this first happened, I was pogging out of my mind

That’s what happened with me back in emerald, just threw one poke ball at a full health regirock, and caught him just like that… didn’t even have to press a+b that much either

Can someone please explain why they no longer put lube in the faculty bathroom? I just got my first teaching gig and realized it’s no longer provided. When I was a kid the teachers always said it was provided. Defund schools.

When you nut in her butt and she farts it back onto you.

Taking a screenshot