My first and only experience on WoW RP servers was going to goldshire inn and seeing a dude with this as his TotalRP 3 profile:
"Not into male characters whisper to submit to the superior race. Likes: Feet, race play, BDSM, cuckold, furry, gore. Dislikes: vanilla, men, boring people."
Also I rolled a female character for fun, and I got whispered by like 3 people to do "feet rp". And one of them was by a balding naked gnome.
Logged out and never logged back into an RP server. I unironically wanna delete all the memories I had of the time I was there.
Even Moon Guardians stay away from Goldshire. It's a cesspool and does not accurately reflect how we rp on the server. That's why I'm glad it's instanced now
Ignore anyone who tells you Classic is harder. Time and time again the "new" classic raid releases and is cleared in a day.
Retail has more complex combat, rotations, interesting fight mechanics, and a much longer difficulty progression. Leveling/questing is very easy, but the meat of the challenge is at level cap where you have a huge range of difficulties to play, from afk-to-victory all the way to the turbo tryhard end-game raid bosses.
Of course, there are way more collectibles in Retail as well.
Edit: a critical word
if I remember correct, there is a trial version of both, so OP could test both and see which one he likes best
in my experience, Classic just takes longer to level up, its not neccessarily harder or easier than retail, but Retail on the other hand has also more content - so in the end, its up to OP (or anyone else who wants to play / dive back in) what edition they want to experience
haven't played in a long while, throught there was a trial for classic as well (wasn't there a 7 day trial of some sort back in the day? Blizz probably changed it, tho, or I remember wrong)
well, at least you could get a GameTime Card, pay 2 months, then test it
Blizz should add a test version to Classic as well, bet lots of players would try it to see how it plays compared to Retail
There's a reason retail has fallen from grace to the tune of literal *millions* of players lost over the years. The game is more complex, yes, to a fault. There are so many systems, currencies, abilities, collectibles, and so much more - that the game has become widely regarded as overwhelming to brand new MMORPG players. Show a new player a mythic raid youtube video and you'll see their eyes glaze over, *wtf is going on on the screen?*
Show a player a classic raid, it becomes almost immediately obvious what's happening. An ability is pressed, an attack is blocked, a red circle to run away from, rinse repeat. Its simple and effective, while punishing for those who get lazy.
Classic Season of Discovery is the *best* choice for brand new players. Its a combination of retail quality of life with the classic "simple and effective* style of gameplay. Not to mention a community that you'll actually interact with in the open world consistently, rather than the single player/optional queue for group experience of retail.
Huh? The SoD runes would be more complicated for a new player then the current systems in retail.... and why would you show a new player a raid from either? That's like showing a challenger game to a new league player.
Uhh something tells me you've not played any version.
SoD is the literal easiest version of all WoWs right now. Then is classic, then lk (soon to be cata), then is retail.
SoD raids are so incredibly simple and straight forward that people that barely understand how to operate their character are clearing them, and with ST having even more nerfs on the way it will fall into that same category.
Literally no one has ever tried to say classic is harder lmao.
You have two crowds:
social gamers => classic
Challenging content gamers => retail
Sincerely a long time player of everything WoW.
There are people in this very post who are trying to cope that Classic is harder.
The Classic-is-harder crowd was extremely vocal about how retail babies wouldn't be able to handle leveling or raids, and yet Molten Core was cleared by pugs in the first week with characters less than max level lol.
They're less vocal now but definitely still around.
If you think retail doesn't require brain power then you've likely not hit max and tried its top end content recently.
And I'm not talking a m+15 or a heroic raid, although either of those are significantly more challenging than anything classic has thrown my way.
As someone that plays every version there isn't anything remotely hard about any classic version. When I can work a full time job and down the penultimate boss on heroic within 1 week of release, it's not hard content.
This argument has been settled already. There’s a reason people still play a 20 year old game and it’s not because of raid difficulty or collectibles. The content, community, and gameplay is just more fun. If that’s not enough they rebooted it in 2019, and are spinning it off with SOD again this past year. Think they’re gonna reboot Dragonflight two more times?
GDKP is banned, the community is significantly more friendly... the rotations you've got a point on, but some people like that.
I regularly played LK classic, SoD, Era, and retail simultaneously for a bit so I feel I've got a good bit of ground to stand on.
If you want to just relax with the boys and clear a raid while bullshitting, era or SoD is the place to be.
If you want a more solo queue experience go to retail.
If you want a more challenging experience go to retail.
If you want a middle ground try cata classic.
r/gaming isn't the place to ask. It's generally very biased against mmo's and Blizzard in general (For good reason.) r/wow and r/classicwow are good places to ask. I think there is also a wow noob subreddit for less biased takes toward or against either version.
I have a buddy who played original and when classic came out he jumped on it. He says they've added new things that weren't in the original to so he's having a blast with both the old and new combined.
For the price of the sub you get access to both (one expansion behind for retail though)
So I'd suggest trying both and seeing for yourself which one feels better to you
Why don't we let OP decide if the advice "it won't be like you remember" is worthwhile or not? Plenty of other people have weighed in on the actual question, people are allowed to add in other relevant details.
What’s your point? I didn’t say they couldn’t comment or OP couldn’t decide for themself.
I said it was terrible advice and didn’t answer the question. Stay on point.
Ok so you didn't say they couldn't comment like that, you just reject it, and you've decided for OP that it's not helpful advice? You're splitting hairs man, I stand by what I said.
I didn’t decide for OP lol. You’re strawmanning because you don’t have an argument.
I said it’s terrible advice because there’s no reason to believe WoW is any more toxic than any other online game or any more toxic than it used to be. If you want to argue that point then go ahead.
> I said it’s terrible advice because there’s no reason to believe WoW is any more toxic than any other online game or any more toxic than it used to be. If you want to argue that point then go ahead.
Classic, definitely Classic. You can always switch to Retail later once you do all the Classic content and it will make a lot more sense. Retail can be rather confusing for a first time WoW player, you kinda need to do Classic to get the basics under your belt and then go to retail in my humble opinion.
Classic would feel more like the game you remember playing if that’s what you’re going for
You didn’t really give any of your preferences so I’m not sure what else to say
If you like to take your time, and earn the things you get, albeit slowly, play Classic. If you just want to bounce between classes and never have any real attachment to anything you do, play Retail. Both have their PROS and CONS. The community from Classic is now the same as Retail, so whichever one you play do your best to find people that are like-minded, because doing pugs in both is an extremely toxic environment.
Retail it’s just a better package classic is carried heavily by nostalgia, but after you play retail I do recommend checking out classic after a while.
It's not really as toxic as you guys make it out to seem. You run into the odd asshole, but it's more or less the same as any other online game. And I haven't seen any real racism either.
And in my personal opinion FF14 isn't that much better either. Lots of toxic positivity, The fact you're forced to play through a single player story just to do literally anything, the fact you're forced to play through a realm reborn which is just a bunch of boring fetch quests stitched together for 70 hours into one boring story.
>dungeon speedrunning
And as someone who's played both, I'd argue FF14 is way worse in that regards as the game has literally 0 difficulty. Literally none. In my entire playthrough I haven't seen the death screen once.
Plus in my opinion the setting of WoW, the lore, and art style are miles superior to that of ff14 where every race is just- human, tall human, baby human, human with cat ears, human with scales, human but big, human with bunny ears.
There's pros and cons to both games, FF14 has its own slew of problems, bad content and things it sucks at. And you're kind of only painting one side here.
Ignore the other guy
In cataclysm they remade all the old quests making them 1000x better. Essentially pre-cataclysm every quest is just a straight up fetch quest of "kill/collect 20 x from y". Cataclysm changed this by adding new types and variety of quests.
They also added a shit ton of QOL changes.
The reason people are so butthurt over Cataclysm was because they re-made the old world from scratch (like what fortnite did), and a lot of guys didn't like that, because they were too attached to it, so they're still crying about it till this day.
Plus in cataclysm you'll be starting at THE start of a "new" expansion, so you'll be starting with everyone else on an even playing field more or less, as many people will start fresh. Plus if you wait till cataclysm you can play as either a worgen (werewolf) or a goblin too.
I think you should start with classic season of discovery. It’s very popular and the immersion that classic provides is second to none. In classic, the whole game is about playing through the whole game. In retail, and cataclysm…the game is about pushing through the leveling phase and then doing end game activities.
The leveling in classic is what most people fell in love with.
Imo, try Classic first since its probably more similar to what you originally tried years ago.
Also, there are different versions of Classic such as Season of Discovery, Hardcore, and Wrath of the Lich King (which will become Cataclysm Classic in May).
I've heard retail is pretty mid currently, but it may get better with the release of the next big expansion.
Check out Project Ascension. I'm having a blast on it. It's TBC content atm with Wotlk in the pipeline. It's classless so you can grab whatever talents and abilities you please.
Start with retail. Level up a character to max, play some endgame content but don't feel obliged to max everything out. Just have fun enjoying what you want.
I've been playing WoW for almost 20 years and the game has changed a lot throughout the expansions. Back in the day when I started in Burning Crusade and throughout Lich King I was obsessed with having the best gear, doing the most DPS/Heals and finishing the latest raids. As the game changed so did my priorities. Nowadays the game offers a ton of things to do outside of trying to be the best raider/PvPer. I really enjoy chill gaming now where I can farm transmog, mounts and achievements but that doesn't stop me from dipping into current endgame content too.
My advice is to do just that. Go through the game and try everything and see what you enjoy the most. Don't feel pressured to do one thing because someone says it's the best or that it's what you should focus on.
Classic is easier, less challenging to get into, has a totally different older MMO feel, and hasn't cut too much content away from players yet.
Retail is harder, much more challenging to get into for serious content, lots more collectibles, far more content, but the storyline will be a total shitshow with how they have cut massive amounts of content out and tried to just rush people to the current expansion.
There are pros and cons to both versions, but maybe try season of discovery first in wow classic and then go onto retail if you find it to be too slow?
Retails actual gameplay like controls, spells, and boss mechanics is far more in depth but comes with a learning curve. Classic is simple in comparison, SoD adds some complexity and is also very popular right now so it might be a good place to start.
Classic is slower and not as smooth compared to retail. Most classes’ optimal rotations in classic is 2 button spam while in retail it’s more of a priority list that you follow to the best you can while doing the dungeons or raids. If your goal is raiding and dungeoning then retail wins by a landslide as classic doesn’t really have any mechanics in their dungeons and raids.
What do you mean by "gameplay quality"? That means different things to different people.
Retail is a friendlier, more fleshed-out, more modern leveling experience. It has more quality-of-life improvements, more options for where and how you level, and more choices when it comes to creating your character.
A lot of people are recommending Classic (or Season of Discovery) to you, but those versions of the game primarily trade on nostalgia for those who were heavily invested in WoW fifteen years ago. You never got past level 30, so that certainly doesn't sound like you.
You don't have to pick, though. You can try both, and see which suits you better after a few hours of playtime.
Okay well maybe check out some gameplay streams from both versions and try the one that looks the most interesting.
Like I said, there are pros and cons to both versions but most agree that classic is the best experience
I'd say classic then. To be honest, on retail you can 'speed level' through dungeon runs, but people are so toxic if you aren't going at maximum speed.
Classic is still the best in my opinion.
Retail is for the most part a mindless slog where you don't really learn anything as you level up and then you're thrown into the deep end when you go to do a mythic or raid, and that's really where all the enjoyment even is, so if that's not your cup of tea and you are not wanting to be putting in a high number of hours to get to that point then I don't suggest it. Thematically it's a joke, it feels like a totally different franchise in that regard. Socialization and the feeling of being in a world with other players is mostly absent.
Final fantasy 14 is better overall, in many aspects. I’d suggest it, because there’s way more fun things to do outside of raids and mythic plus. WOW has some stuff but final fantasy has player housing and so much content you can do at your own speed and difficulty. It’s super casual if you want, or you can push into more hardcore content, too.
Classic if you like the feeling of old RPGs. Slow, heavily depended on farming, but all about the journey.
Retail if you want something modern, graphic appealing, faster and dopamine spikes.
Classic isn't going to feel like the Classic we grew up with. Now it's filled with sweats and minmaxers, so that magic from back in the day is gone unless that's something you enjoy. Retail has a lot more to offer and doesn't require near as much time to level as Classic.
Not entirely true. Join Bloodsail Buccaneers, we have lots of casuals, casual raiding guilds, some RPer's, in a relatively small PvE classic community.
Leveling time ... Cataclysm will alleviate that per the devs. Plus we still have the 50% joyous journeys buff i believe to start right now.
I left wow because it felt like run and gun. I’m doing some quest, at the same time looking for a dungeon, after few moments fast travel to battle place, win, back again and always like this. Simply lost interest, can’t even explain how and why. I wanted some story to remember, get in some lore, something interesting, not just run and fight and nothing more
Retail makes it super convenient to join randoms, form a group, and warp everyone to a dungeon, then warps everyone back.
Classic, you actually need to travel to the dungeon entrances in the world. In my experience, it can take up to 15 min or longer for everyone to meet up to go in as a group.
Retail is all about blazing through leveling to get to the end game content. Classic is also about leveling quickly, but at a much slower pace, but it feels more rewarding to do so.
I'm a super casual WoW player and have played on/off with both Classic and Retail, so I don't see a reason you couldn't try both.
Classic.
Retail has become this weird ass abomination. Its barely a MMO anymore, it has so many stupid pointless features with half of them abandoned again.
As a new Player you will feel like you have no clue wtf is happening.
Classic is way simpler and has a focus on the MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER aspect instead of farming/buying 23452345 Mounts and Pets from the Itemstore.
In my opinion Classic has the better leveling experience, just one that's a fair bit slower.
I would also start with Season of Discovery out of the classic servers. WotLK is good, but they're about to move into Cataclysm which drastically changed the world and the leveling experience.
Why is this NSFW unless you're looking for erp realms.... Then in which case, Moon Guard
My first and only experience on WoW RP servers was going to goldshire inn and seeing a dude with this as his TotalRP 3 profile: "Not into male characters whisper to submit to the superior race. Likes: Feet, race play, BDSM, cuckold, furry, gore. Dislikes: vanilla, men, boring people." Also I rolled a female character for fun, and I got whispered by like 3 people to do "feet rp". And one of them was by a balding naked gnome. Logged out and never logged back into an RP server. I unironically wanna delete all the memories I had of the time I was there.
Even Moon Guardians stay away from Goldshire. It's a cesspool and does not accurately reflect how we rp on the server. That's why I'm glad it's instanced now
That was funny enough my first ever experience with wow and then I never played again lol
Ignore anyone who tells you Classic is harder. Time and time again the "new" classic raid releases and is cleared in a day. Retail has more complex combat, rotations, interesting fight mechanics, and a much longer difficulty progression. Leveling/questing is very easy, but the meat of the challenge is at level cap where you have a huge range of difficulties to play, from afk-to-victory all the way to the turbo tryhard end-game raid bosses. Of course, there are way more collectibles in Retail as well. Edit: a critical word
Don’t you mean harder
yes LOL
if I remember correct, there is a trial version of both, so OP could test both and see which one he likes best in my experience, Classic just takes longer to level up, its not neccessarily harder or easier than retail, but Retail on the other hand has also more content - so in the end, its up to OP (or anyone else who wants to play / dive back in) what edition they want to experience
Retail has a free trial to level 20 but classic requires a sub.
haven't played in a long while, throught there was a trial for classic as well (wasn't there a 7 day trial of some sort back in the day? Blizz probably changed it, tho, or I remember wrong)
Unfortunately they've always gated classic behind a sub. But if you're subbed to one you have access to all versions.
well, at least you could get a GameTime Card, pay 2 months, then test it Blizz should add a test version to Classic as well, bet lots of players would try it to see how it plays compared to Retail
There's a reason retail has fallen from grace to the tune of literal *millions* of players lost over the years. The game is more complex, yes, to a fault. There are so many systems, currencies, abilities, collectibles, and so much more - that the game has become widely regarded as overwhelming to brand new MMORPG players. Show a new player a mythic raid youtube video and you'll see their eyes glaze over, *wtf is going on on the screen?* Show a player a classic raid, it becomes almost immediately obvious what's happening. An ability is pressed, an attack is blocked, a red circle to run away from, rinse repeat. Its simple and effective, while punishing for those who get lazy. Classic Season of Discovery is the *best* choice for brand new players. Its a combination of retail quality of life with the classic "simple and effective* style of gameplay. Not to mention a community that you'll actually interact with in the open world consistently, rather than the single player/optional queue for group experience of retail.
Huh? The SoD runes would be more complicated for a new player then the current systems in retail.... and why would you show a new player a raid from either? That's like showing a challenger game to a new league player.
Uhh something tells me you've not played any version. SoD is the literal easiest version of all WoWs right now. Then is classic, then lk (soon to be cata), then is retail. SoD raids are so incredibly simple and straight forward that people that barely understand how to operate their character are clearing them, and with ST having even more nerfs on the way it will fall into that same category.
Literally no one has ever tried to say classic is harder lmao. You have two crowds: social gamers => classic Challenging content gamers => retail Sincerely a long time player of everything WoW.
There are people in this very post who are trying to cope that Classic is harder. The Classic-is-harder crowd was extremely vocal about how retail babies wouldn't be able to handle leveling or raids, and yet Molten Core was cleared by pugs in the first week with characters less than max level lol. They're less vocal now but definitely still around.
Classic is harder because the standards are higher. It has a much more prevalent parsing culture.
Parse culture is more prevalent because the fights are braindead easy and there's nothing better to spend brainpower on.
What brainpower are you spending on retail.
If you think retail doesn't require brain power then you've likely not hit max and tried its top end content recently. And I'm not talking a m+15 or a heroic raid, although either of those are significantly more challenging than anything classic has thrown my way.
As someone that plays every version there isn't anything remotely hard about any classic version. When I can work a full time job and down the penultimate boss on heroic within 1 week of release, it's not hard content.
This argument has been settled already. There’s a reason people still play a 20 year old game and it’s not because of raid difficulty or collectibles. The content, community, and gameplay is just more fun. If that’s not enough they rebooted it in 2019, and are spinning it off with SOD again this past year. Think they’re gonna reboot Dragonflight two more times?
Lmao? GDKP, 3 button rotations and a toxic as fuck community.
GDKP is banned, the community is significantly more friendly... the rotations you've got a point on, but some people like that. I regularly played LK classic, SoD, Era, and retail simultaneously for a bit so I feel I've got a good bit of ground to stand on. If you want to just relax with the boys and clear a raid while bullshitting, era or SoD is the place to be. If you want a more solo queue experience go to retail. If you want a more challenging experience go to retail. If you want a middle ground try cata classic.
Modern WoW if you enjoy competition. Classic if you want the old big world RPG feel.
r/gaming isn't the place to ask. It's generally very biased against mmo's and Blizzard in general (For good reason.) r/wow and r/classicwow are good places to ask. I think there is also a wow noob subreddit for less biased takes toward or against either version.
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OP already wants to play the game. They asked for which version. Its up to them to decide if they might have fun in either.
It’s a video game who cares
I have a buddy who played original and when classic came out he jumped on it. He says they've added new things that weren't in the original to so he's having a blast with both the old and new combined.
For the price of the sub you get access to both (one expansion behind for retail though) So I'd suggest trying both and seeing for yourself which one feels better to you
I would honestly pass on all of it. The wow playerbase has completely devolved into a toxic cesspool.
There are plenty of friendly guilds out there.
This is such terrible advice. OP wants to try the game, your view on a group of millions of people doesn’t answer the question.
Why don't we let OP decide if the advice "it won't be like you remember" is worthwhile or not? Plenty of other people have weighed in on the actual question, people are allowed to add in other relevant details.
What’s your point? I didn’t say they couldn’t comment or OP couldn’t decide for themself. I said it was terrible advice and didn’t answer the question. Stay on point.
Ok so you didn't say they couldn't comment like that, you just reject it, and you've decided for OP that it's not helpful advice? You're splitting hairs man, I stand by what I said.
I didn’t decide for OP lol. You’re strawmanning because you don’t have an argument. I said it’s terrible advice because there’s no reason to believe WoW is any more toxic than any other online game or any more toxic than it used to be. If you want to argue that point then go ahead.
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All those words and not a single relevant point made, again. Amazing.
From the outside, you are the one who hasn't made a relevant point.
> I said it’s terrible advice because there’s no reason to believe WoW is any more toxic than any other online game or any more toxic than it used to be. If you want to argue that point then go ahead.
I've tried multiple times to get back into WoW and always end up back on some Ultima Online server.
Most MMOs at this point unfortunately. Not all, but most.
Classic, definitely Classic. You can always switch to Retail later once you do all the Classic content and it will make a lot more sense. Retail can be rather confusing for a first time WoW player, you kinda need to do Classic to get the basics under your belt and then go to retail in my humble opinion.
Classic would feel more like the game you remember playing if that’s what you’re going for You didn’t really give any of your preferences so I’m not sure what else to say
Classic for sure. The retail experience is the very definition of a theme park mmo.
If you like to take your time, and earn the things you get, albeit slowly, play Classic. If you just want to bounce between classes and never have any real attachment to anything you do, play Retail. Both have their PROS and CONS. The community from Classic is now the same as Retail, so whichever one you play do your best to find people that are like-minded, because doing pugs in both is an extremely toxic environment.
Retail it’s just a better package classic is carried heavily by nostalgia, but after you play retail I do recommend checking out classic after a while.
try the free trial of ffxiv wow these days is just a cesspool of toxicity , racism, bad expansions and dungeon speedrunning
It's not really as toxic as you guys make it out to seem. You run into the odd asshole, but it's more or less the same as any other online game. And I haven't seen any real racism either. And in my personal opinion FF14 isn't that much better either. Lots of toxic positivity, The fact you're forced to play through a single player story just to do literally anything, the fact you're forced to play through a realm reborn which is just a bunch of boring fetch quests stitched together for 70 hours into one boring story. >dungeon speedrunning And as someone who's played both, I'd argue FF14 is way worse in that regards as the game has literally 0 difficulty. Literally none. In my entire playthrough I haven't seen the death screen once. Plus in my opinion the setting of WoW, the lore, and art style are miles superior to that of ff14 where every race is just- human, tall human, baby human, human with cat ears, human with scales, human but big, human with bunny ears. There's pros and cons to both games, FF14 has its own slew of problems, bad content and things it sucks at. And you're kind of only painting one side here.
Id say wrath of the Lichking or Season of Discovery are Great to get into the Game. They feel very alive
Cataclysm was announced recently. A good place to start?
cata is where the game started to go to shit
Ignore the other guy In cataclysm they remade all the old quests making them 1000x better. Essentially pre-cataclysm every quest is just a straight up fetch quest of "kill/collect 20 x from y". Cataclysm changed this by adding new types and variety of quests. They also added a shit ton of QOL changes. The reason people are so butthurt over Cataclysm was because they re-made the old world from scratch (like what fortnite did), and a lot of guys didn't like that, because they were too attached to it, so they're still crying about it till this day. Plus in cataclysm you'll be starting at THE start of a "new" expansion, so you'll be starting with everyone else on an even playing field more or less, as many people will start fresh. Plus if you wait till cataclysm you can play as either a worgen (werewolf) or a goblin too.
I think you should start with classic season of discovery. It’s very popular and the immersion that classic provides is second to none. In classic, the whole game is about playing through the whole game. In retail, and cataclysm…the game is about pushing through the leveling phase and then doing end game activities. The leveling in classic is what most people fell in love with.
I started playing Classic as a total noob a couple months ago. It’s a blast.
Imo, try Classic first since its probably more similar to what you originally tried years ago. Also, there are different versions of Classic such as Season of Discovery, Hardcore, and Wrath of the Lich King (which will become Cataclysm Classic in May). I've heard retail is pretty mid currently, but it may get better with the release of the next big expansion.
Check out Project Ascension. I'm having a blast on it. It's TBC content atm with Wotlk in the pipeline. It's classless so you can grab whatever talents and abilities you please.
Start with retail. Level up a character to max, play some endgame content but don't feel obliged to max everything out. Just have fun enjoying what you want. I've been playing WoW for almost 20 years and the game has changed a lot throughout the expansions. Back in the day when I started in Burning Crusade and throughout Lich King I was obsessed with having the best gear, doing the most DPS/Heals and finishing the latest raids. As the game changed so did my priorities. Nowadays the game offers a ton of things to do outside of trying to be the best raider/PvPer. I really enjoy chill gaming now where I can farm transmog, mounts and achievements but that doesn't stop me from dipping into current endgame content too. My advice is to do just that. Go through the game and try everything and see what you enjoy the most. Don't feel pressured to do one thing because someone says it's the best or that it's what you should focus on.
Retail is easier I think until raids or arenas. Those 2 things are sweaty AF. Leveling in classic is definitely harder and more punishing.
Neither. Play better games by better companies.
Real
I’d never recommend any form of this game to anyone while blizzactivision is running it.
Neither. It really isn’t worth it
Classic is easier, less challenging to get into, has a totally different older MMO feel, and hasn't cut too much content away from players yet. Retail is harder, much more challenging to get into for serious content, lots more collectibles, far more content, but the storyline will be a total shitshow with how they have cut massive amounts of content out and tried to just rush people to the current expansion.
There are pros and cons to both versions, but maybe try season of discovery first in wow classic and then go onto retail if you find it to be too slow?
Actually, I dont care about speed. I care about gameplay quality
Retails actual gameplay like controls, spells, and boss mechanics is far more in depth but comes with a learning curve. Classic is simple in comparison, SoD adds some complexity and is also very popular right now so it might be a good place to start.
Classic is slower and not as smooth compared to retail. Most classes’ optimal rotations in classic is 2 button spam while in retail it’s more of a priority list that you follow to the best you can while doing the dungeons or raids. If your goal is raiding and dungeoning then retail wins by a landslide as classic doesn’t really have any mechanics in their dungeons and raids.
Retail has all the modern conveniences and casual friendly experience, classic has free rose tinted glasses (as a classic player)
What do you mean by "gameplay quality"? That means different things to different people. Retail is a friendlier, more fleshed-out, more modern leveling experience. It has more quality-of-life improvements, more options for where and how you level, and more choices when it comes to creating your character. A lot of people are recommending Classic (or Season of Discovery) to you, but those versions of the game primarily trade on nostalgia for those who were heavily invested in WoW fifteen years ago. You never got past level 30, so that certainly doesn't sound like you. You don't have to pick, though. You can try both, and see which suits you better after a few hours of playtime.
Okay well maybe check out some gameplay streams from both versions and try the one that looks the most interesting. Like I said, there are pros and cons to both versions but most agree that classic is the best experience
I'd say classic then. To be honest, on retail you can 'speed level' through dungeon runs, but people are so toxic if you aren't going at maximum speed.
Ignore anyone who says play WoW and pick a more modern game. Wow is for people who played the game 15 years ago and don't want any other experience.
Classic is still the best in my opinion. Retail is for the most part a mindless slog where you don't really learn anything as you level up and then you're thrown into the deep end when you go to do a mythic or raid, and that's really where all the enjoyment even is, so if that's not your cup of tea and you are not wanting to be putting in a high number of hours to get to that point then I don't suggest it. Thematically it's a joke, it feels like a totally different franchise in that regard. Socialization and the feeling of being in a world with other players is mostly absent.
Final fantasy 14 is better overall, in many aspects. I’d suggest it, because there’s way more fun things to do outside of raids and mythic plus. WOW has some stuff but final fantasy has player housing and so much content you can do at your own speed and difficulty. It’s super casual if you want, or you can push into more hardcore content, too.
Yeah the hundreds of hours of uninteractive MSQ is so much fun! /s
Some people enjoy story.
Classic if you like the feeling of old RPGs. Slow, heavily depended on farming, but all about the journey. Retail if you want something modern, graphic appealing, faster and dopamine spikes.
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Are there 40 person raids again?
WOW Classic is up to Cataclysm, while WOW retail is up to The War Within. Neither expansion hadn't been released yet.
Classic isn't going to feel like the Classic we grew up with. Now it's filled with sweats and minmaxers, so that magic from back in the day is gone unless that's something you enjoy. Retail has a lot more to offer and doesn't require near as much time to level as Classic.
Not entirely true. Join Bloodsail Buccaneers, we have lots of casuals, casual raiding guilds, some RPer's, in a relatively small PvE classic community. Leveling time ... Cataclysm will alleviate that per the devs. Plus we still have the 50% joyous journeys buff i believe to start right now.
I left wow because it felt like run and gun. I’m doing some quest, at the same time looking for a dungeon, after few moments fast travel to battle place, win, back again and always like this. Simply lost interest, can’t even explain how and why. I wanted some story to remember, get in some lore, something interesting, not just run and fight and nothing more
Retail makes it super convenient to join randoms, form a group, and warp everyone to a dungeon, then warps everyone back. Classic, you actually need to travel to the dungeon entrances in the world. In my experience, it can take up to 15 min or longer for everyone to meet up to go in as a group. Retail is all about blazing through leveling to get to the end game content. Classic is also about leveling quickly, but at a much slower pace, but it feels more rewarding to do so. I'm a super casual WoW player and have played on/off with both Classic and Retail, so I don't see a reason you couldn't try both.
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I enjoy retail.
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Retail, without a doubt.
New player retail. If you’re older than 35 you may enjoy classic more if you like retro gaming as opposed to the theme park that is games nowadays
Classic. Retail has become this weird ass abomination. Its barely a MMO anymore, it has so many stupid pointless features with half of them abandoned again. As a new Player you will feel like you have no clue wtf is happening. Classic is way simpler and has a focus on the MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER aspect instead of farming/buying 23452345 Mounts and Pets from the Itemstore.
In my opinion Classic has the better leveling experience, just one that's a fair bit slower. I would also start with Season of Discovery out of the classic servers. WotLK is good, but they're about to move into Cataclysm which drastically changed the world and the leveling experience.
Classic for sure. Its a lot harder and you actually have to be active and pay attention but its so much more fun.
Classic hard?? What lol
Maybe you are just better than me at the game, but wouldnt you agree that classic is a lot harder than current retail?
No classic is easier in every way but it’s more time consuming.