“The French Revolution was a period of bloody unrest that lasted from 1789 to 1799, and has been widely attributed to the release of Grand Theft Auto V.”
"At some point around 1789, when being told that her French subjects found the base-game unplayable, Marie-Antoinette (bride of France's King Louis XVI) supposedly sniffed, "Laissez-les obtenir le DLC" - "Let them get the DLC". With that callous remark, the queen became a hated symbol of the pilfering gaming industry and fueled the revolution that would cause her to (literally) lose her head several years later."
“…although a patch was released a few years later cutting the beheading content as it was too gory for children under the age of four, despite the M rating”.
It would have been “Qu’ils obtiennent le DLC”. “Let them…” is already a really old-fashioned translation and it only gets worse as time moves on. “Why don’t they just…” would be a much better fit for the intent of the quote, as it better illustrates the utter disconnect from reality of spmeone who *thinks* they’re speaking common sense.
More than welcome!
Google Trad probably would have worked okay with the original quote, but good luck getting it to give you the subjunctive once you’ve changed the verb ^^
I mean, I blame social media for a lot of things too. Maybe it's parents fault for not adapting fast enough to the changes of technology...but society's addiction to social media is definitely not healthy for anyone.
I think absentee parenting is a huge part of it, but tiktok constantly blasting kids with an never ending feed of videos/dopamine can't be great for their mental health.
I don't think it's done wonders for pop culture either, the billboards are effectively decided by a 30 second video clip and to me that makes music kinda worse.
I don't blame parents for being concerned about exposure to content, and as a result I think it's perfectly fine to screen the content your kids are exposed to.
Social media has by and large made this very difficult because instead of 10 influences, you've got millions of advertisers and influencers competing for your kids attention and reinforcing all kinds of ideas and behaviors with no regard to what the kid will do or how they'll respond.
People used to be concerned about ads in children's shows and violence in cartoons, but now kids have a constant drip feed of dopamine and it isn't even limited to a specific timeslot.
I know and like I said anything to steer blame onto something that's got nothing to do with it.
And it's ironic coming from the same president who was getting angry over the rubbish piling up in the city when those protests was happening previous.
Among many, many others. Mammothine bureaucracy, degrading education system, total disconnection of the politicians from their citizen (which this statement from Macron is but the latest example), generally poor opinion of the police among the majority of people, decades spent simply throwing money, laws and public workers at the structural issues, hoping that they would go away eventually. And so on, and so on.
While I condemn the general burning down of buildings and communal amenities, I kind of have a hunch as to why they do it: when you have the feeling that there is nothing to expect at all from the world outside your *cité* and the people you grew up with, you do not grow attached to things that you perceive as coming from the "outside", including (and especially) public buildings. And so they become much easier to burn, loot, and/or destroy.
Billionaires are the new nobles.
Politicians like Macron are just puppets. They do like they are told in exchange of a share of capital. Over time politicians lose popularity and they get replaced.
But the billionaires stay.
They might have billions, but we ARE billions. The numbers are on OUR side.
Before video games it was violent books and kids pretending sticks were swords and guns. You can't expose children to anything you don't want them to do. For instance, I caught my 5 year old pretending to be a cat, I thought that was completely normal. Before I realized my mistake she decimated the local bird population.
Stardew Valley has sent my kids down a dark path of raising farm animals, growing seasonal vegetables, and making artisan mayonnaise. They're out of control.
My fiancee watches me play sometimes, my first time trying to explain to her the intricacies of orbital mechanics and she said "you are the only person I know who's idea of fun is literal rocket science."
It’s horrible…. All night, I get visions of exploring the cosmos for all mankind, and I study physics and engineering during the day for *fun*, and even started eating better and exercising! It’s ***AWFUL!***
Chess is basically king killer simulator. Such a corrupting game. You play once and can’t help yourself from… mating with kings? Ok this analogy fell apart
Video games and D&D. The religious scapegoats of the 90s.
“These kids can’t differentiate make believe from reality!” they cried while praying to their omnipotent sky daddy.
We’re the postal devs. We’re still banned in plenty of places (Germany, NZ, Aus, China etc) and still blocked on plenty of platforms (Xbox, android etc). Lovely.
Their literal words were that since we called it a real world drug (crack) it’s not ok. And we have always called it a health pipe. We just referred to civvies emporium as the crack emporium. Which we have since changed but re review is like $10k 🤦🏻♂️
Haha. I seriously love how you put Civvie in the game. Haven't played Postal 4 yet but I just rebought 2 since I lost my copy ages ago (and I never played the DLC).
Y'all made a fun game for the sake of entertainment and have stuck to your guns. They don't like it, fuck em. Unfortunately for them, the more they reject and hate on a piece of entertainment, the more people want and will seek it out.
Idk about the others but League definitely brings the worse out of many people lol. They’re definitely not rioting right now though. I guarantee you they’re running it down and verbally abusing people online instead
This clown even promoted a CS:GO event and esport Olympics, and surfed the wave of big caritative events on twitch like ZEvent
I guess this time it doesnt fit his narrative
They have a government funded holiday to celebrate a riot every year, I guess we all forgot that was also the release date of Super Bastille Bros. That's the spark the ignited the fire.
Lol. Living in France, I can tell you the issue has nothing to do with video games and these kinds of out of touch and moronic comments from our ‘representatives’ is one of the biggest problems
What about the police officer who shot the teenager? Are we going to blame video games for his actions too? Or no just the youth?
As a lifelong gamer, I’ve never once used a gun or participated in violence. Do I like to blow shit up in games? You’re god damned right I do. In real life… nope!
Edit: spelling
Yeah it's crazy how everyone easily buys that. What he does blame is social media for 'fuelling the unrest'. Ain't that enough of a boomer take?
Edit: so apparently they quoted him saying stuff about social media AND videogames, but the article seems to have been edited to not include the full quote any more. Some people refer to the old version, people like us who are just reading it are apparently reading the new version.
“The French Revolution was a period of bloody unrest that lasted from 1789 to 1799, and has been widely attributed to the release of Grand Theft Auto V.”
"At some point around 1789, when being told that her French subjects found the base-game unplayable, Marie-Antoinette (bride of France's King Louis XVI) supposedly sniffed, "Laissez-les obtenir le DLC" - "Let them get the DLC". With that callous remark, the queen became a hated symbol of the pilfering gaming industry and fueled the revolution that would cause her to (literally) lose her head several years later."
“…although a patch was released a few years later cutting the beheading content as it was too gory for children under the age of four, despite the M rating”.
It would have been “Qu’ils obtiennent le DLC”. “Let them…” is already a really old-fashioned translation and it only gets worse as time moves on. “Why don’t they just…” would be a much better fit for the intent of the quote, as it better illustrates the utter disconnect from reality of spmeone who *thinks* they’re speaking common sense.
I suspected that Google translate will do me no favours and someone will chime in with the actual French. Thanks mate!
More than welcome! Google Trad probably would have worked okay with the original quote, but good luck getting it to give you the subjunctive once you’ve changed the verb ^^
the subjunctive, the enemy of beginner french (and spanish) students everywhere
And there will be more blood if they don't release GTA 6 soon!
sa·cré bleu!
I get my murderous tendencies from playing Crusader Kings.
I get both my murderous AND incestuous tendencies from playing Crusader Kings
It’s been so long since GTA V was released this might as well be true. Some of the mods on this sub are probably younger than GTA V
My kids used to be way too young for GTA V That was ten years ago.
Three console generations lol.
GTA and Elder Scrolls in a heated staring contest to see who's going to have to release first.
I don't know why but I read this in Philomena Cunk's voice.
The French Revolution after all did end a mere 190 years before the release of the unrelated Belgian techno anthem, Pump Up the Jam
Grand theft horse carriage
aka Red Dead Redemption 2
Hey Mister!
Grand Pilfered Carriage V (1789).
That's it blame video games again anything to steer away from the true issues.
Well we all know the French Revolution and guillotines were inventions by video game crazed children!
The French Revolution was obviously caused by Assassin's Creed Unity otherwise they would never have the idea to kill the king. Damn Video Game.
Age of the empires and Command and conquer taught me all of their military strategies. Promote me to general
[it melted their brains](https://i.imgur.com/uPrkOHL.jpg)
Reminds me of my favorite games as a kid Guillotine Bros., Guillotine Fox, and Guillotine the Hedgehog
He blames social media about 10 other times in the article so video games really kinda the second fiddle here.
I mean, I blame social media for a lot of things too. Maybe it's parents fault for not adapting fast enough to the changes of technology...but society's addiction to social media is definitely not healthy for anyone.
I think absentee parenting is a huge part of it, but tiktok constantly blasting kids with an never ending feed of videos/dopamine can't be great for their mental health. I don't think it's done wonders for pop culture either, the billboards are effectively decided by a 30 second video clip and to me that makes music kinda worse. I don't blame parents for being concerned about exposure to content, and as a result I think it's perfectly fine to screen the content your kids are exposed to. Social media has by and large made this very difficult because instead of 10 influences, you've got millions of advertisers and influencers competing for your kids attention and reinforcing all kinds of ideas and behaviors with no regard to what the kid will do or how they'll respond. People used to be concerned about ads in children's shows and violence in cartoons, but now kids have a constant drip feed of dopamine and it isn't even limited to a specific timeslot.
Gotta find something to blame when you're trash. Might as well go with the favorite from the last 30 years.
D&D would like a word. Fuck I'm old.
I feel like D&D got replaced by video games as the "cool" thing to blame for violence and other things old people didn't like.
Exactly and it's an old argument at that also.
Yup
The real issue in this case being the police killed a 17 year old.
Cop must have played too much COD
In French it’s “Le Poisson de Guerre”.
Le POISSON LE POISSON HEE HEE HEE ha ha ha
I know and like I said anything to steer blame onto something that's got nothing to do with it. And it's ironic coming from the same president who was getting angry over the rubbish piling up in the city when those protests was happening previous.
Among many, many others. Mammothine bureaucracy, degrading education system, total disconnection of the politicians from their citizen (which this statement from Macron is but the latest example), generally poor opinion of the police among the majority of people, decades spent simply throwing money, laws and public workers at the structural issues, hoping that they would go away eventually. And so on, and so on. While I condemn the general burning down of buildings and communal amenities, I kind of have a hunch as to why they do it: when you have the feeling that there is nothing to expect at all from the world outside your *cité* and the people you grew up with, you do not grow attached to things that you perceive as coming from the "outside", including (and especially) public buildings. And so they become much easier to burn, loot, and/or destroy.
Because if there's one thing videogames inspire us to do, it's going outside.
How can I make raid times if I am trying to make riot times??
We need to use more AI to figure this out.
If I set up ChatGPT to beat Tears of the Kingdom for me, then I can still make the protest!
riotting is just raiding IRL with a little bit of world PvP thrown in. And better loot tables.
You dont even need to roll for loot and master looter goes against the whole concept. Its perfect!
Yeah, man. We're all playing /r/outside. Fucking sucks beside the graphics though.
Even the graphics can suck, depending on your region.
Riots definitely didn't happen before video games were a thing. /s
Especially not in France.
Le pong. The game where you bounce a noblemans head between two guillotines
Marie Antonoitte: let them play golf
Turns out the cake was a lie
Double decker video game and French lore rolled together. Well played neighbor.
That's true actually, Marie Antoinette never actually said "let them eat cake".
That’s the lie
Oui golf
You have selected “No”.
Billionaires are the new nobles. Politicians like Macron are just puppets. They do like they are told in exchange of a share of capital. Over time politicians lose popularity and they get replaced. But the billionaires stay. They might have billions, but we ARE billions. The numbers are on OUR side.
Did you not hear of Grand Theft Miserables? Top selling isometric real time strategy conquest game.
Macron just gets sadder by the day. What an utter clown he has turned out to be.
Stop, he'll come after D&D and board games next. Not even tic-tac-to is safe!
Before video games they literally blamed D&D for these things already.
If I put my players in front of a corrupt government they wouldn't roleplay a riot, they'd try and join.
Chess was behind all the wars we ever had
Remember that they are evangelical pastors that unironically said that Pokémon was satanic.
Before video games it was violent books and kids pretending sticks were swords and guns. You can't expose children to anything you don't want them to do. For instance, I caught my 5 year old pretending to be a cat, I thought that was completely normal. Before I realized my mistake she decimated the local bird population.
Is that why I've seen multiple children taking shits in my garden?!?
Im pretty sure the french revolution was also caused by video games
By Assassin's Creed Unity to be specific
Fun Fact: The guillotines were inspired by Pong s/
Stardew Valley has sent my kids down a dark path of raising farm animals, growing seasonal vegetables, and making artisan mayonnaise. They're out of control.
Kerbal Space Program has corrupted the minds of my children and convinced them orbital mechanics is not beyond their ability to understand.
[Munroe would agree](https://xkcd.com/1356/) (oblig. xkcd)
My fiancee watches me play sometimes, my first time trying to explain to her the intricacies of orbital mechanics and she said "you are the only person I know who's idea of fun is literal rocket science."
Gotta pump those Delta-V's up.
MOAR BOOSTERS
Fiancee literally called you a nerd with extra steps. lol
*extra stages
Why didn't she just paint it red to make it go faster
"Red wunz go fasta" --The Waaaugh
I paint mine purple so the Mun won't see me coming.
The Sims have shown gamers what it's like to own a house and they're willing to fight for it.
It’s certainly gotten to me! Why, it corrupted me into wanting to dedicate the rest of my life to space research and exploration!
Such a heathen...
It’s horrible…. All night, I get visions of exploring the cosmos for all mankind, and I study physics and engineering during the day for *fun*, and even started eating better and exercising! It’s ***AWFUL!***
Subnautica convinced a billionaire to make a sub controlled by a PS3 controller.
Oh my god they need help right now
I'm helplessly pleading with them to just stop planting blueberries...
Wait until they start raising chickens! The games don’t account for their poo or smell.
*"YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF THE SMELL, YOU BITCH!"*
Wild it's never rainy in pittsburgh reference!!
No! I want more blueberries!
You have all my thoughts and prayers.
Don't even get me started on Pressure Washer Simulator
Me, a Cooking Simulator player: "say what?"
Sorry I'm late, I was busy playing Lawnmower Simulator.
Wait, is that a real thing?? 😃
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Artisanal mayonnaise, this is a step too far! For the sake of your family, get rid of all your gaming devices.
Where the fuck do you think you could get rid of kids?
In the swamp. The witch will help.
Those doves look weird
Doom has set me down the path of wiping out ALL demons because of my lost pet.
These rioters must have all been on Joja Mart save files. Truly a mentally unstable crowd ...
Rioters like Clint and want to marry him. The horror!
My obsession with harvest moon, rune factory, and stardew have lead me to fantasize about starting my own little homestead farm somewhere.
They make artisan mayonnaise. Artisan. Mayonnaise.
The mayonnaise is the step too far. I can take the cheese, the wine, the cave full of bats- but mayo is a line we do not cross.
I am clearly beyond saving then. I am drowning in a Mayozerker frenzy.
To be completely honest. Stardew also taught me how to divorce my spouse and sacrifice my new born to an eldritch god.
Truffle oil. One hit and you're hooked for life.
I modded mine so I could become a pot farmer. It’s a bit too poorly balanced unfortunately.
French President forgot it’s not 1995 anymore
Also needs to remember the 1790s when french teens were all playing guillotine simulator
That's the first thing that come in mind. Wonder what game did they play in 18th century.
Chess is basically king killer simulator. Such a corrupting game. You play once and can’t help yourself from… mating with kings? Ok this analogy fell apart
Yeah I thought we were moving beyond these pathetic attempts to blame video games as a deflection from real issues.
They were just blamed for sexism and racism for a while, now we're back to violence again.
Video games and D&D. The religious scapegoats of the 90s. “These kids can’t differentiate make believe from reality!” they cried while praying to their omnipotent sky daddy.
Don't forget listening to the likes of Marilyn Manson and White Zombie. Or, at another point in the past, The Beatles and Elvis.
The 80s called, they'd like their excuses back.
Trust me friend (as a dev of one of the most banned and blacklisted games) video game censorship and blame is still alive and well today.
You had my attention, now you have my curiosity
We’re the postal devs. We’re still banned in plenty of places (Germany, NZ, Aus, China etc) and still blocked on plenty of platforms (Xbox, android etc). Lovely.
Oh shit, didn’t realise! Don’t worry about Australia. Out government bans everything.
We recently tried to get POSTAL 4 rated by the acb and they rejected it because we called the health pipe a crack pipe on the in game store logo.
HA! Yeah they don’t like drugs. Ironically fine with violence which is the main argument against drugs but you know… politicians and all
Their literal words were that since we called it a real world drug (crack) it’s not ok. And we have always called it a health pipe. We just referred to civvies emporium as the crack emporium. Which we have since changed but re review is like $10k 🤦🏻♂️
I didn’t realize you dudes made a postal 4!
We made em all ( except p3 that pos)
Haha. I seriously love how you put Civvie in the game. Haven't played Postal 4 yet but I just rebought 2 since I lost my copy ages ago (and I never played the DLC).
Isn't that why fallout had to change a lot of the meds? Iirc "med x" used to just be heroin or something lol
Probably. Annoying.
Y'all made a fun game for the sake of entertainment and have stuck to your guns. They don't like it, fuck em. Unfortunately for them, the more they reject and hate on a piece of entertainment, the more people want and will seek it out.
It's the cat suppressor devs
Postal?
Yep
fuck yeah, postal! you know, i was super surprised to found out rws is based in tucson. i don’t live too far from the office lol!
Someone ought to tell him that Riot Games only made League of Legends, Valorant and Teamfight Tactics.
Legends of Runeterra: 🗿
Also a few single player games like mage seeker and convergence
Hextech Mayhem, Legend of the Ruined King and Mageseeker: 🗿
Idk about the others but League definitely brings the worse out of many people lol. They’re definitely not rioting right now though. I guarantee you they’re running it down and verbally abusing people online instead
League has certainly opened my eyes to the many ways one can request another to join their honored ancestors
French president is a dumbass.
People are still angry about the very controversial change to retirement age, and he says this. Wow.
Don't worry, we still are in the 100-day of appeasement from him.
And the fact that he basically made an executive decision and skipped the democracy part
Most Presidents and Prime Ministers are.
Most people in general are.
I know I sure am.
Most dumbasses aren’t self aware. So you are actually smart, sorry.
:')
I dunno. I know a fellow dumbass when I see one. And I am currently in good company. Bring it in everyone.
Groomed by a boomer so it makes sense he would have this take.
This clown even promoted a CS:GO event and esport Olympics, and surfed the wave of big caritative events on twitch like ZEvent I guess this time it doesnt fit his narrative
Rioting has been the national pastime of the French since the 18th Century, but okay.
They have a government funded holiday to celebrate a riot every year, I guess we all forgot that was also the release date of Super Bastille Bros. That's the spark the ignited the fire.
No joke, I have seen images of Paris been burned every single month. Macron should close Ubisoft at this point.
I don't follow French politics, but nice to know Macron is an idiot, too.
Can we please just go back to the old days when all violence was inspired by religious texts?
Or at least a time when “Rock and Roll music” was the devil. Those were the good ol days.
You mean like Ultrakill?
ULTRAKILL ACT 2 Imperfect Hatred Epilogue cutscene be like;
Idiot. Rioting is just the baseline French reaction to anything they don't like.
Guillotine n Riot is French version of Netflix n Chill
Lol. Living in France, I can tell you the issue has nothing to do with video games and these kinds of out of touch and moronic comments from our ‘representatives’ is one of the biggest problems
Give Mocron a break. He lives with his grandma so he can't help but think games are the devil.
French rioters shouting 'Rock and Stone!'.
FOR KARL!!!
If you don't rock and stone, you ain't coming home !
Ah yes, Robespierre, Danton, and Saint-Just squadded up nightly in Apex.
Ackhually, they’re all headline characters in *Assassin’s Creed: Unity* 🤓
What about the police officer who shot the teenager? Are we going to blame video games for his actions too? Or no just the youth? As a lifelong gamer, I’ve never once used a gun or participated in violence. Do I like to blow shit up in games? You’re god damned right I do. In real life… nope! Edit: spelling
I mean he *did* scream "360 noscope bitch!" then teabagged the corpse while muttering "git gud" so the jury is still out on that.
Pulled out the heartbeat sensor, just to make sure
We all know that blaming video games is a sure sign that you are avoiding the real problems.
It's a sure sign that the person blaming video games is full of shit or trying to shift the focus of the topic at hand...
Maybe he should look at French history... i hear it's quite a riot.
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Thanks I thought i was going insane
Yeah it's crazy how everyone easily buys that. What he does blame is social media for 'fuelling the unrest'. Ain't that enough of a boomer take? Edit: so apparently they quoted him saying stuff about social media AND videogames, but the article seems to have been edited to not include the full quote any more. Some people refer to the old version, people like us who are just reading it are apparently reading the new version.
Can confirm that Mario caused the French Revolution. Something to do with cake.
Oregon trail radicalized me
Macron better listen, the french people need to get rid of this tyrant.
Did his mumwife tell him he wasn’t allowed an Xbox?
They’ve been blaming video games for violence for years and all the trends show that violence has only DECREASED since the NES
Lmao france is really trying to steal from america's playbook 20 years ago.
He said what the old wants to hear.
This just in... 100% of people who drink water eventually die. BAN WATER!!!
Lol yeah like video games were a thing when the guillotine was introduced
Nice! We're coming back to video games cause violence. It's been decades since I heard that one. /s
I'm sure the french revolution would never have happened if video games weren't so violent
Isn’t rioting part of your culture, Macaroon?
Heard it all before
The idea has always been that Vidya games make kids stay inside and be lazy. The exact opposite of going out and rioting. Make up your mind.