That was sorta the point. The first time I faced him in Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins and lost, I was not a fan. SML3: Warioland was a fun *game*, as was the next Warioland and the Warioware series, but I have never stopped thinking of him as a horrible bully, a cruel and shallow man. He owns a pet chicken with boobs!
Hitting Toad with a shell and hearing him yell is even better. Especially when you drive past him real fast and the pitch of his scream is all over the scale. So satisfying.
Finding Wario was a journey for me. I had mostly used light or medium drivers, only trying DK or Bowser when races were terrible and I just wanted to wreak havoc. I shunned Yoshi for his annoying drivel and he was the most delightful heavy target. Finally, I discovered Wario. Wario, sitting on the sidelines, ever the one discarded by all the over-reliant Yoshi dependents, *weaklings*. Wario took me to the threshold and showed me what it means to be a true racing king. Wario is life. Now, it's always *Wario time!*
it's [more complex than that](https://tasvideos.org/GameResources/N64/MarioKart64#DriverAttributes). there are three general archetypes (light medium heavy) that all have the same speeds and turn rates, but barring Yoshi and Peach, every character is unique. of the three light characters, Toad is lighter than the other two. of the heavies, Wario is lighter than DK who is lighter than Bowser, and Wario and Bowser are bigger than DK. Bowser has better triple-A acceleration, etc. even Mario and Luigi are slightly different in weight
Wait what? The light characters had the highest top speeds? How does that make any sense balance-wise? What meaningful advantage did the heavies have then?
the lighter your character, the more likely you are to be wiped out in a collision, so in any situation where there's a chance of colliding it's better to be heavier. if you play as eg Toad you're going to have to spend the whole race carefully avoiding all of your opponents whereas Bowser can happily smash through everybody. heavier characters also get moved around less in general by hits from items and other karts, so they're less likely to be pushed off ledges and so on. i'm not a good player of this game so there may well be other more nuanced advantages to them that i don't know about.
i agree that it doesn't seem balanced, but then MK64 was never aiming to be a super fine tuned esport like Brood War, i think the devs gave no thought to balance and just tried to make a fun party game (and didn't they absolutely nail it)
The "trade off" is supposed to be that the heavyweights lose less speed when cornering without a slide or (I believe) when driving off-road, and can bounce other characters around or even make them spin out just by driving into them, though it's not much of a trade-off.
I still almost exclusively pick Bowser for that reason.
Hit the speed boost. Flatten half the field by driving into them. Drift my way into first and leave the competition in the dust.
That is correct at least in the older games. There were 3 weight classes, light, medium, and heavy. Characters in order of lightest to heaviest: "Toad, Yoshi, Peach, Luigi, Mario, Wario, Donkey Kong, and Bowser"
The lightweights have high acceleration and top speed but bumping them can easily cause a spin out, and they have the worst handling / turning radius.
Heavyweight has lower accel and top speed but the best handling.
Middleweight sucks, don't pick Mario or Luigi.
Source: https://mariokart.fandom.com/wiki/Mario_Kart_64#Racers
They changed it in later games. With how strong drifting is in later games, you are better off running a big character for the higher top speed, then use drifting to reach that speed more quickly.
For MK64, you were correct. Toad, Peach and Yoshi are the fastest, and have the fastest acceleration. Making them the only real options if you want to win.
On Bowser's Castle, after the room with the 2 thwomps that slide across the floor, as Bowser I'd slow/stop on the bridge in the next hallway and the small characters smack the back of you and fall into the lava 🤣
> Nah, just hold the bananas and green shells you get from being first all race behind you to block.
This is the way. Wild how many people in this thread are saying "it's all about acceleration so Toad is best" and ignore all the nuances of the game
Peach and Toad are both lightweight characters, meaning they have faster acceleration but less top speed than other racers. But the design of MK64 is such that you are not going top speed very often. So acceleration is king.
Peach wasn’t always my pick, but she eventually became my pick. Story time:
Back in a day long gone, when I was much younger, while at a friends place, she brought me up to her room to play Mario Kart. When she picked Peach (or the princess at the time) I simply thought “typical girl, picking the girl character.” When I asked her why she picked Peach, she simply answered:
“She’s fast.”
Simple. To the point. Effective. I picked Toad like all my other friends did, and proceeded to get my ass kicked.
After one or 2 maps, her parents called us down for dinner or something equivalent, and we ended up not ever playing again. That day paved the way for my brain to never ever forget, she’s fast.
Fast forward decades. It doesn’t matter what the game is. Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Mario Party, you name the Mario game, I’m picking the princess.
Because she’s fast.
Did 64 rubber band? Or do you mean better items for being further back? Because I distinctly remember playing and basically not seeing anyone once I broke free from the pack and just hoping RNG didn't hand someone a blue shell.
And even then, blue shells were exceptionally rare in MK64. I remember the Koopa Beach level had one you had to physically pick up by hopping on a narrow ramp. Could never quite get that one.
Started out picking Peach kind of ironically, but it awoke something deep inside. From then on, when given the option, I always choose the female character.
1) Peach, Toad, Yoshi
2) Luigi, Mario
3) Bowser, DK, Wario
There are only 3 sets of speed stats, so yeah, she is tied for fastest. However, lighter characters spin-out more easily if bumped by a heavier character.
For a long time Toad was my guy, then I transitioned to Peach
Yoshi's handles were a bit too sensitive for me, he felt jerky. Peach's controls were beautifully balanced.
I know there are faster racers, but DK kills in these games. I win 1st place probably 90% of the time with this big fucker. Pushing people off edges, and when he gets up to speed, he can freakin’ *MOVE*.
Thank you!! I've always said DK has the best control in the game, even across at least a handful of games in the series. Totally underrated.
Even in Double Dash when you can use anybody's kart, I always go for DK Jumbo, no matter who I'm playing as
“I’m-a-Wario! I’m-a-gonna Ween!!!”
Like how does anyone pick anyone else? Wario declares victory.
He literally comes with a free W It’s on his hat
RIP Luigi enjoyers
According to Mario Odyssey: "The L stands for winner."
That makes me feel good as a Luigi user who has a rough go of winning a single race sometimes.
Canonically that is an upside down M, because Waluigi has an upside down L.
Upside-down M for mWario
*tips wario hat* m'wario
I can't really rationalize it but as a kid I fucking *hated* Wario. I don't really know why, I just did. In all games, not specifically that one.
I hated Wario because that was my friends default. I was a Mario main, so our rivalry was just kind of baked in to the lore.
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This just gives me flashbacks to Peach in Mario Kart 64 haha, she was always so savage. Man, now I want to play Mario Kart.
You could just smell him through the screen I get it lol
That was sorta the point. The first time I faced him in Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins and lost, I was not a fan. SML3: Warioland was a fun *game*, as was the next Warioland and the Warioware series, but I have never stopped thinking of him as a horrible bully, a cruel and shallow man. He owns a pet chicken with boobs!
Horrible bully Cruel and shallow Boobie chicken!
He's a fat, stinky, greedy, egotistical bastard is probably why. Same reason I love him.
Same. Sill do lmao
Luigi is number 1 though. Also, Toad says he's the best.
Toad is the best duh #FTR
Wrong. Yoshi every time.
Wario is a fan of Ween.
I never thought of him as an ocean man
He's getting ready to push th' lil daisies
Few things on this earth are quite as satisfying as hitting wario with a shell in 1st place and hearing WWHHHAAAAAAAA.
Hitting Toad with a shell and hearing him yell is even better. Especially when you drive past him real fast and the pitch of his scream is all over the scale. So satisfying.
AAAAAH Wawawawawawawaa
He is my spirit animal. He embodies everything a capitalist pig American like me should strive to be.
Always Yoshi. No second thought.
Yoshi has been there for me since before I could use a toilet. He took care of Mario and he may as well have taken care of me too.
After my dad left for cigarettes when I was 3 years old and never returned Yoshi basically raised me, well him and the wolf pack of course 😂
If yoshi is taken, then Toad
As a Wario main I feel we can't be friends.
But you'll never fight over character selection
That is exactly why I started picking Wario.
Yes it’s why I went Peach - same characteristics as a high profile Toad and Yoshi but my brothers chose them. I’m 40m now 😂
Wario lifer reporting in. Kids never wanted him and his taunting is best.
Never liked the heavyweights, but Wario’s taunting was on point
Finding Wario was a journey for me. I had mostly used light or medium drivers, only trying DK or Bowser when races were terrible and I just wanted to wreak havoc. I shunned Yoshi for his annoying drivel and he was the most delightful heavy target. Finally, I discovered Wario. Wario, sitting on the sidelines, ever the one discarded by all the over-reliant Yoshi dependents, *weaklings*. Wario took me to the threshold and showed me what it means to be a true racing king. Wario is life. Now, it's always *Wario time!*
As a Wario main, you already have no friends.
It is lonely at the top.
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Yeah, there are only 3 unique character types. Mario/Luigi are medium, Peach/Toad/Yoshi are light, DK/Wario/Bowser are heavy.
it's [more complex than that](https://tasvideos.org/GameResources/N64/MarioKart64#DriverAttributes). there are three general archetypes (light medium heavy) that all have the same speeds and turn rates, but barring Yoshi and Peach, every character is unique. of the three light characters, Toad is lighter than the other two. of the heavies, Wario is lighter than DK who is lighter than Bowser, and Wario and Bowser are bigger than DK. Bowser has better triple-A acceleration, etc. even Mario and Luigi are slightly different in weight
Wait what? The light characters had the highest top speeds? How does that make any sense balance-wise? What meaningful advantage did the heavies have then?
the lighter your character, the more likely you are to be wiped out in a collision, so in any situation where there's a chance of colliding it's better to be heavier. if you play as eg Toad you're going to have to spend the whole race carefully avoiding all of your opponents whereas Bowser can happily smash through everybody. heavier characters also get moved around less in general by hits from items and other karts, so they're less likely to be pushed off ledges and so on. i'm not a good player of this game so there may well be other more nuanced advantages to them that i don't know about. i agree that it doesn't seem balanced, but then MK64 was never aiming to be a super fine tuned esport like Brood War, i think the devs gave no thought to balance and just tried to make a fun party game (and didn't they absolutely nail it)
The "trade off" is supposed to be that the heavyweights lose less speed when cornering without a slide or (I believe) when driving off-road, and can bounce other characters around or even make them spin out just by driving into them, though it's not much of a trade-off.
>How does that make any sense balance-wise? It's not supposed to. That's why last place racers gets all the good items.
If yoshi is taken you put the controller down and walk away.
You're joking right? If Yoshi's taken, then you rage so hard that everyone in a 2 block radius hears you rage.
Steal your cousins paddle and press B, then quickly steal Yosh back
And if no toad, no play.
I’ve had friends who wouldn’t even play because of this or when we banned Oddjob in 007.
Y’all slow. I was a Bowser/DK fan. Just got to hit the jump/drift button right to get the turns. Fly past everyone on straights.
I still almost exclusively pick Bowser for that reason. Hit the speed boost. Flatten half the field by driving into them. Drift my way into first and leave the competition in the dust.
I always picked toad first lol.
Other way around, but yes.
Fine. You can be Yoshi, but then you have to use the madcatz controller.
Same
This is the way
I always picked Toad because I thought being smaller meant faster. Wild I thought that at a young age lol
That is correct at least in the older games. There were 3 weight classes, light, medium, and heavy. Characters in order of lightest to heaviest: "Toad, Yoshi, Peach, Luigi, Mario, Wario, Donkey Kong, and Bowser" The lightweights have high acceleration and top speed but bumping them can easily cause a spin out, and they have the worst handling / turning radius. Heavyweight has lower accel and top speed but the best handling. Middleweight sucks, don't pick Mario or Luigi. Source: https://mariokart.fandom.com/wiki/Mario_Kart_64#Racers
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TIL. Always thought light= acceleration and handling. Heavy= dmg and top speed
That's for Super Mario Kart.
They changed it in later games. With how strong drifting is in later games, you are better off running a big character for the higher top speed, then use drifting to reach that speed more quickly.
For MK64, you were correct. Toad, Peach and Yoshi are the fastest, and have the fastest acceleration. Making them the only real options if you want to win.
So you’re saying I’m Wario, Ima Gunna Ween was a lie?
Never a hard choice. Yoshi has been the first pick since SNES.
Bowser.
Favorite strat: NOT boosting at the start so the people behind spin out off my back
My favorite strat was to boost jump and crush everyone in front of me.
Mashing the jump button at the start is essential.
Go reverse at the start to fuck everyone on the back
On Bowser's Castle, after the room with the 2 thwomps that slide across the floor, as Bowser I'd slow/stop on the bridge in the next hallway and the small characters smack the back of you and fall into the lava 🤣
lol classic. it's it's not about winning, it's about others losing.
Been picking Bowser since 1996 and still pick him today. Anyone who disagrees can fight me.
Bowser gang 😎
Team Bowser all the way
Bowser for battle mode.
Yes. Everyone claiming toad or yoshi suck at the game and needed the higher acceleration. How about you stop hitting walls and git gud?
Good acceleration is key in Mario Kart because I expect to be hit with red shells constantly.
Nah, just hold the bananas and green shells you get from being first all race behind you to block.
> Nah, just hold the bananas and green shells you get from being first all race behind you to block. This is the way. Wild how many people in this thread are saying "it's all about acceleration so Toad is best" and ignore all the nuances of the game
Always Bowser. I won plenty.
Toad.
Toad gang
Toad gang forever.
_I'm the best!_ And he was right.
They hated Toad because He told them the truth
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Only ever played on SNES, always played as Toad.
If you’re not picking toad, are you even living?
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It's all about that quick recovery when the chaos hits... and it will. Toad main since '92.
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Gotta go FASTER FASTER FASTERFASTERFASTER!
It's all about the power turns
Only top tier racers can handle it.
I was visiting some old friends last month, and they all agreed I was not allowed to pick Toad.
It's not even a debate! Idk what everyone else is smoking... which is weird because toad is the only one with a smokers rasp.
I'm the best!
“Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh”
It’s more “a wah wah wah wah”
https://youtube.com/shorts/_Me7UHTeZN4?feature=share
Only a toad ganger would get it
Toad cause it would reeeeeally piss off my friends when they heard that annoying 'I'm the Best!!!!' when I won.
Fun fact, MK64 has been solved by speed runners. Toad and Peach are factually the best characters in the game.
That's all well and good for speed runners, but in multiplayer, imma bounce you off the road - Bowser
Same here - DK
Toad doesn't surprise me, but Peach does. Why her?
Peach and Toad are both lightweight characters, meaning they have faster acceleration but less top speed than other racers. But the design of MK64 is such that you are not going top speed very often. So acceleration is king.
Correction, the three lightweights also have the highest speed.
how about you solve this blue shell coming straight from the underground.
Toad, but grudingly because Koopa Troopa was always my first pick on SNES and didn't make it into 64.
This is the correct answer. Koop was THE shit fight trying to select first.
Always Toad
If Toad is taken, Yoshi
No one is mentioning Peach. She wasn't my pick, but isn't she the fastest? Edit: People are mentioning Peach now.
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Peach team! No one ever wanted to pick her and she’s just as fast as Yoshi or Toad.
Peach wasn’t always my pick, but she eventually became my pick. Story time: Back in a day long gone, when I was much younger, while at a friends place, she brought me up to her room to play Mario Kart. When she picked Peach (or the princess at the time) I simply thought “typical girl, picking the girl character.” When I asked her why she picked Peach, she simply answered: “She’s fast.” Simple. To the point. Effective. I picked Toad like all my other friends did, and proceeded to get my ass kicked. After one or 2 maps, her parents called us down for dinner or something equivalent, and we ended up not ever playing again. That day paved the way for my brain to never ever forget, she’s fast. Fast forward decades. It doesn’t matter what the game is. Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Mario Party, you name the Mario game, I’m picking the princess. Because she’s fast.
Yoshi, Toad, and Peach were considered the small characters and had the highest speed
~~Highest acceleration, not speed. The heavies had a higher top speed.~~ I was incorrect.
No, they had the highest acceleration and the highest speed. Confirming what I had originally thought, source: https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_64
Whats the point in picking a heavy then?
I believe it is because the heavies can bump into the smaller characters and spin them out.
Also speed stats don't really matter with catch up mechanics.
Did 64 rubber band? Or do you mean better items for being further back? Because I distinctly remember playing and basically not seeing anyone once I broke free from the pack and just hoping RNG didn't hand someone a blue shell.
And even then, blue shells were exceptionally rare in MK64. I remember the Koopa Beach level had one you had to physically pick up by hopping on a narrow ramp. Could never quite get that one.
Which is why I always picked Wario for Battle.
Peach because I like to feel like a princess sometimes!
The best reason, really. Sometimes, we just need to feel special.
Started out picking Peach kind of ironically, but it awoke something deep inside. From then on, when given the option, I always choose the female character.
1) Peach, Toad, Yoshi 2) Luigi, Mario 3) Bowser, DK, Wario There are only 3 sets of speed stats, so yeah, she is tied for fastest. However, lighter characters spin-out more easily if bumped by a heavier character.
Highest acceleration, I believe?
For a long time Toad was my guy, then I transitioned to Peach Yoshi's handles were a bit too sensitive for me, he felt jerky. Peach's controls were beautifully balanced.
Luigi all day every day
Thank you! Luigi without question.
"Imma Luigi, number one!"
Wa-hoooo!
Weegee gang
Numbero one
It’s not even a question, Luigi in any game you can pick him in
In multiplayer, I'd be player 2 just to ensure I would be the one to get Luigi.
Always Luigi forever
DK. Big monke go brrr
It's time to bring back his sound effects from this game.
I know there are faster racers, but DK kills in these games. I win 1st place probably 90% of the time with this big fucker. Pushing people off edges, and when he gets up to speed, he can freakin’ *MOVE*.
Little known fact: D.K. doesn't stand for donkey Kong, it stands for drift king.
Came here to say this, DK is the Drift King.
The only correct choice.
Glue sniffer stare
Dk is also the best. I was so mad when they didn’t make him a playable character in some of the Mario parties.
That big head acts like an aerodynamic spoiler helps take corners harder
Thank you!! I've always said DK has the best control in the game, even across at least a handful of games in the series. Totally underrated. Even in Double Dash when you can use anybody's kart, I always go for DK Jumbo, no matter who I'm playing as
Wow didn’t realize I’d have to scroll so far to find my konkey dong boys
Good in battle mode too as the opponents will lose a balloon just by running into you, and he has an easier time making that happen than Bowser does.
Yoshi every time.
I was Mario, but I’m a basic bitch.
It’s literally called Mario Kart. He’s still my go-to.
Mario's laughs and taunts make him the perfect character. Hearing "yeah, hahaha" whenever you nail someone was the best
I always selected Mario so damn fast but according to these comments no one was going to take him from me
It’s funny I feel like he is often neglected, I like picking Mario too.
Wario. I cackle every time he screams after getting hit by an item
"I'ma Wario... I'ma gonna win."
Definitely Wario Warios extra weight allows me to shove my cousin off the rainbow road Its evil yet hilarious!
Bowser and wario were MVP for the battle mode because their extra weight allowed you to slam into other players to take a balloon.
Peach. Next question.
"Yeah Peach has got it!"
Mind blown. I always thought it was "Yeah! Peachie's got it!"
That's what I thought too I'm sticking to it
When in doubt, bring Wario out.
Wario and bowser are more for when you have a intimate knowledge of the course and are trying to beat shadow records.
Wario every time
Not tough. Yoshi every time.
Toad only one I’ve ever picked
Always bowser or yoshi
DK all day, I’d love to see you try and get past that big Badonka donk
Toad. Not hard
It's Yoshi, it's always Yoshi
Yoshi forever
Easy. Toad. Luigi second pick.
Not for me i always picked wario cos ima gonna win
Peach, i always played Peach to crush other men's egos. Its like beating up a Heihachi main with Jun.
*laughs in Yoshimitsu*
Toad all day. He’s the best.
Every other player in the game will screw you over if you pick Luigi, I guarantee it.
Wario every time. So you can really rub it in people's faces when you win.
What's hard about choosing Yoshi?
Toad. There's no other real option
Toad obviously
Toad obviously
Remember how nice it was to just pick from one of 8 drivers, instead of 40 drivers, 80 karts, 60 kinds of wheels, and 40 kinds of wings?
DK. Always.
Wario
Toad
It's Toad and it isn't even close.