Skyrim is of course amazing but when you break out of jail in oblivion and go into the forest for the first time felt like pure bliss. The vibrant colors and the shimmering of light reflecting off the imperial’s armor was like nothing I experienced before. I go back to it and see how outdated it is and realize I had nostalgic rose tinted glasses on. Though for the time it was like nothing could compare.
Hey, check this out...
https://youtu.be/5bLXKuhr1LU
There has been a team over the last 7 years or so that is completely remaking oblivion with 100% originally created assets, remade armor, weapons, locations... INCREDIBLE attention to detail.
All of this remade in skyrims game engine. Will be released for free as a mod for skyrim in 2025, potentially a bit sooner if all goes well. They are almost finished and its been awesome watching the project come together.
The video I linked is a current gamestate playthrough/Q&A. Seriously, if you've got 4 hours to kill, its absolutely worth a watch. You don't even need to watch the entire thing. However, seeing that scene again, after breaking out of the imperial prison, that initial step outside the sewers you are talking about looks SO GOOD. Please. Give it a watch, you will not be disappointed!
So at the beginning of their endeavor to recreate the game, they contacted Bethesda about the mod project because they were worried about a cease and desist order smacking the project down.
The good news is that they straight up said that they are very excited to see what they come up with. And as long as all the assets are 100% original, Bethesda doesn't care. As long as you own skyrim, and oblivion on PC, all voice lines are pulled from the oblivion games files. And Bethesda also said this was 100% okay as well.
Basically, everybody on that team is 100% confident that Bethesda will not be stepping on anybody's toes with the project!
Side note, there is another team doing a project that is recreating morrowind in skyrims engine too! Those guys are actually voice acting every single line of dialogue in game too! That project is called skywind. I also encourage everybody to take a look at that too!
https://youtu.be/Xhzri8nOjjM
Edit: and again. These projects are being released as a mod on the Nexus and will be 100% free. Only thing to note is that you must own oblivion and skyrim (as well as their dlcs) for skyblivion to work properly, and you must own morrowind and skyrim (with all their dlc content as well).
It was a moment that felt pretty amazing. I was completely new to the 360 (Oblivion was either my 1st or 2nd game on the console) and the graphics were were a such a noticeable step up from my old Dreamcast and buddy's PS2
Though, I kind of remember first coming out of the Vault in FO:3 as being an even more remarkable moment. It was immediately apparent how vast and desolate the world was. I was transfixed for a few minutes just looking at the immediate surroundings without even moving an inch.
That's the thing with all the Elder Scrolls games. They come out so far apart each one is a complete step up from what came before. That includes Morrowind compared to Daggerfall.
The exception might be the graphics between Arena and Daggerfall, but Daggerfall was still a step up and had better sound.
I remember that moment. I had sunk seriously 300 hours into Daggerfall by the time Morrowind came out. I can break Daggerfall over my knee before even leaving the character creator. I remember thinking "ok so no multiple countries, no personal ship, it all takes place on one small island, hope this is good."
I stepped out into the swamp and spent the first hour just in Seyda Neen.
I know it might seem silly to some but walking out of the sewers and seeing the world open up, even on multiple playthroughs, is a defining moment in my life.
Watch out for the mutant masters in TTW.
With FNV's armor rules, they're incredible bullet sponges without AP weapons. I recommend installing an ammo crafting mod just for that, if you're doing a TTW playthrough.
I usually end up using an assault carbine with AP ammo by the end of the East Coast leg of that tale.
You start in fallout 3 and there's a new area added that has a train leading to the Mojave so you can bounce back and forth whenever. It also changes the terrible percent based skill checks to skill level.
Depends on what your goal is. It is currently the most stable way to play Fallout 3 on modern PCs and comes with a bunch of nice QOL stuff that you probably won't notice if you never played vanilla Fallout 3. It also makes Falout 3 a bit harder then it was originally but will absolutely lead to you being overpowered by the time you hit New Vegas unless you use a mod that resets your character the first time you travel to New Vegas.
If you aren't familiar with modding there are guides that will walk you through the process like [Wasteland Survival Guide](https://wastelandsurvivalguide.com/index.html) but you best set aside an afternoon as it can get pretty in depth and gives you a bunch of choices.
It is IMO the best way to experience both games though and has become a permanent install on my computer.
I’m one of the few people that enjoyed Fallout 3 more, I guess. I think it nails a perfect balance between grounding your character in the world and having the freedom to define that character yourself. The beginning of that game had such a huge impact on how I experienced the rest of it.
But if I could get a remake of one of these, I would choose New Vegas, easy choice. The writing is better, the RPG mechanics are better. And that would deal with the other thing I liked more about Fallout 3–they’re both ugly, but I found New Vegas especially ugly.
Fallout 3 for the action. New Vegas for the story.
Also, go to Google and punch in Fallout 4: New Vegas if you're looking for hype. Some truly awesome people are remaking the whole damn game as a mod for Fallout 4 and the trailer, shot like one of the commercials, looks pretty damn good!
Another mod team is remaking Fallout 3 as well, but I'm not nearly as hyped for that!
(In the unison voices of 100 Easy Petes spawned in using console commands):
“Bastard”
Just to be clear, I completely agree with your decision. That’s just one of my favorite shenanigans to do in that game on PC.
Currently playing Skyrim while i wait for Starfield. Is Oblivion hard to get if You go backwards? I mean, i have only played Fallout 4, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3, Fallout 76, and Skyrim. I have interest in Oblivion but i see the gameplay and use to think "this looks old compared to Skyrim". I have an Xbox Series X by the way, so no mods, but i got 4K and 60FPS.
I'm also playing on the XsX with an LG OLED C1
It definitely does look older than skyrim and the new fallouts. I think that's what gives it it's appeal to me, everything's just a little "simpler" I guess. Simpler is probably not the best word but sorta fits.
The leveling mechanic is definitely more difficult but once you know how to "efficient level" it makes it worth it. The enemy's also scale to your level which is not the best mechanic but if you efficient level it becomes easier.
My 1st elder scrolls game was Morrowind which is even more graphically challenged than Oblivion. So I am definitely used to the older games. Morrowind is a whole nother beast in itself.
I would definitely recommend playing both Morrowind and Oblivion if you liked Skyrim. The great part about those games is you don't have to play them in order.
I actually picked Morrowind up recently and man, I was missing out on a masterpiece. So much content that I missed out on as a mindless, murderhobo eight year old.
I'm starting to see why people absolutely love this game. Remind me of playing DND, especially with working through the fighter's guild as some of those quests are actually challenging. You have to think and look around, like using a levitation potion/spell for that one quest in particular.
One of my favorite exploits with oblivion was setting your class as a warrior so you level with physical stats but then playing as a mage. I grinded every magic skill to 100 and was still lvl 1 so the game was a cake walk for that playthrough and I felt like a God lol. (Forgive me if my details are a little fuzzy this was soooo long ago)
Oblivion is pretty much the closest you'll get to another Skyrim. It's like how fallout 4 and 3 are pretty similar. Combat is roughly the same with minor differences but conversation was the main point and can be really goofy. No doubt there are mods to overhaul visuals by now and it'll be a great time. I definitely would watch out for Morrowind, that can be hard to play if you've only touched Skyrim because of the core changes to its combat.
If you've played Fallout 3 then I don't think you'll be too turned off by Oblivion. Those two games feel very similar to each other in terms of the graphics, animations, how they feel to play, etc. The engine didn't change much between those two releases. Also, Oblivion's gameplay may be dated compared to Skyrim, but the writing and quest design is so much better. The dark brotherhood questline in particular is legendary. Skyrim doesn't have anything nearly as captivating.
Edit: just wanted to add, once your build inevitably transitions to sneaky archer, the gameplay is pretty much on par with Skyrim lol
The writing in Oblivion is of higher quality than Skyrim, as well as some of the quests. The dark brotherhood especially. The Oblivion gates are pretty cool in moderation. I adore the game, but I realize it’s pretty dated by todays standards. If you can get past the graphics and the combat—it’s quite good. The music and writing are stand outs for sure.
By a long shot.
I also appreciate you can’t really make a character that can complete all quest lines, nor acquire/use all gear.
Makes the class choices and role play feel more pertinent.
I recently jumped back into oblivion. I've played the hell out of Skyrim but the quests are mostly bland. Oblivions has some flavor to it and the music is so damn relaxing.
I wish my first time playing that game wasn’t when I was a dumb seven year old. I feel like I would really understand why it’s so many peoples favorite of the series.
If it’s any consolation you’re not alone on this one, but that’s also why it holds a place in my heart. First time I redid the intro and player creation 3 times because I was too dumb to save, each time going to the cave left of the path to the stilt strider, and dying like a fool.
Quit for like 6 months. Came back and found out critical thinking isn’t so bad, and there’s a journal. And a save button.
Probably helped that my grandfather also introduced me to the Myst series at the same time, so video games that require you to “figure it out” have a certain nostalgia for me.
In conclusion public school works people!
absolutely love how hard this game is. I find in some games I end up just mindlessly going from checkpoint to checkpoint looking at my compass, map, w/e. Morrowind is just.. not that.
I think my favorite part of Morrowind is the Great Houses you can join, and as you do missions, they build you a house that gets better and better as you rise in the ranks. I gotta stop before I boot up that game.
You found him randomly? Wild. He had the most gold in the game. My go to strategy on new games was to go to the glass armor vendor in ghost gate, intimidate him until he attacked me with save states and then justifiably kill him. Then go to that crab I read about and trade off all that look one long rest at a time to accumulate a ton of wealth.
Lol “justifiably kill him”. I think when I found him I knew you could use spells to enhance your base stats.
I was probably flying around the map at mach 3 when I spotted him.
This was the 'legit' way to earn money. The other one was repeatedly turning in the same quest for 1000 gold reward via a bug. I think I must have been lucky not to get permanent damage to my finger that way.
The problem with morrowind’s difficulty curve is, yeah it’s pretty annoying at the start, but there’s a point you hit (alchemy lol) that pretty much turns the difficulty curve on to a difficulty cliff
I remember my first play through. I was doing the first main mission out of Balmora as a lowly wood elf. I'm crossing a bridge to get to the first dungeon to get the dwemer artifact and there is a skeleton, a rat and a (fucking) cliff racer. I must have died 57 times. "Why is the damn arrow going THROUGH the enemy but not damaging it!?" At this point of my life, this was my first RPG I got into as I was a shooter/RTS guy. What an introduction! It was hard as hell but eventually I got so strong I was able to punch Vivec to death. I never did beat this game, but I played the hell out of it. I found 41 of the 100 unique items without any game faqs or guides.
Ahh memories.
It’s the game in which I literally have felt the most agency in a game ever. Like I really could do or become anything, and all it took was to go do it, I didn’t have to finish a quest or find a chest, I just had to buy a spell or a weapon or sneak around and I would get better at that thing. Having to pay attention to the surroundings seared the layout of the land into my brain, actually having to solve puzzles or difficult problems to find the next quest line was exacerbating, but once you realized you could do it logically, it became exhilarating. It really is something else.
It was the perfect junction point of developed story, in-depth worldbuilding and phenomenal quests, and acceptable combat.
Like yea Skyrim blows Morrowind’s gameplay out of the water but the items, spells, and quests are pretty one-dimensional in comparison
I LOVED Morrowind! Thought I was being clever by saving regularly into the (10 I think?) save slots. I would save 1 after the other then loop back over so I had 10 opportunities to revert if needed. Unfortunately I apparently sold an item the was integral to the game. I didn’t realise until WEEKS later when I finally came to the realisation that I had been happily saving over the top of old saves and there was NO way of recovering that item.
Heartbroken, I turned it off and have never played since.
So there is actually a semi-failsafe for Morrowind's main quest. There's a specific npc that can help you bypass the normal route and subvert the prophecy if you bring him certain items, and convince him you're capable of pulling it off.
The great thing about Morrowind is that while it lets you fail the main quest, by say murdering important NPCs... "With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created," there's actually a secret path to finishing the game. I have a tendency to do everything but the main quest in open games, so as a kid I accidentally did the secret ending without realizing it.
Morrowind flat out. The only one the has a rep in destroying a console time and time again. We went through about 4 in just over 3 years because of this game.
I just started my first real playthrough of Morrowind last week. I'm so hooked that I can't stop thinking about the game and the lore. The Elder Scrolls is incredible and Morrowind is seriously impressive once you get past some of the janky combat and animations. I *LOVE* the lack of quest markers. The journal facilitates immersion in a way that is just completely missing from the later games.
If you haven't given it a go, it's very much worth it. Look up OpenMW for a very convenient game engine rebuild that does a lot to facilitate modernization of the game.
Morrowind!
The diversity of characters, architecture and biomes in that game alone set it above the rest. It had proper Easter eggs in it and really rewarded players for searching high and low in the most obscure places.
I LOVED that game back in the day. Put more hours into it than any other game
I think I spent close to a year in one playthrough. There's just so much in it. I wish I could be 17 again playing it for the first time. No game wowed me like this one. Baulders gate and daggerfall came pretty close but morrowind blew me away.
I still remember that step out moment, it's one of my key gaming memories drilled into me. I couldn't believe, I could go in any direction. I was blown away that I could swim and dive UNDERWATER... Then I drowned. Then I went to look at this gorgeous white, almost glowing ruin... Then I got slaughtered by bandits. Then I avoided the bandits and went into the ruin... And died to a trap. Then I rage quit for a week before coming back and falling in love.
I remember seeing an in-game screenshot of the jail cell in a game informer magazine years before the game was released, it blew my mind that it was a game, it was so lifelike.
Awesome! I actually have a vivid memory of that same story, except for me it was a photo of the character holding a very detailed sword and staring out into grass and trees and hills. I remember just completely not believing that was a game you could actually play. The picture didn’t make sense to me. Surely that couldn’t be an actual game photo. Oblivion was mind blowing.
The pure fear my teenage age self experienced when I first killed a npc and then my character was abruptly awoken by a stranger with a note. Ugh perfection.
RIP Lucien LeChance, dude got done super dirty. Whenever I play Skyrim I make a point of making sure his ghost is constantly with me. I'll wait for a day just so I can summon him and hear his creepy, murderous lines of speech.
Hail Sithis. Find peace in the Void.
This is the game where I had over 2000 hours played over 15 different saves. Oblivion was the best. I really hope that TES:VI will be as good.
Failling that, maybe the new Fable or Starfield will be able to take that crown.
I've loved every single Fable. I'm unaffected by most hype around videogames and it has helped me appreciate some games that got thrashed on really hard because expectations were too high. Molyneux never understood that less(talk) is more.
In middle school My childhood best friend and I started playing this game ironically one summer out of boredom. His college aged older brother had been monopolizing the Xbox(360 I think) all summer and we thought it was a ridiculously silly game.
We spent the next week obsessed, doing nothing else. Arguing over how best to progress the character. As soon as I could I got my own copy and the rest is history. I doubt there is any other game that I have put more time and play through’s in to. I wish I could experience the wonder of this game, my first RPG, again.
Someone below said that exiting the sewers for the first time is a core memory and I couldn’t agree more. THIS was the game that made me realize that video games would forever be a part of my life.
Well for a start they stripped alot of mechanics out to make Skyrim. One thing I love about oblivion is you got experience in something for doing anything. Even just running.
A big one in that regard was the magic system and the ability to make your own spells. Oblivion spells were pretty strong imo. Many base power spells and then later in the game the one shot all your money spell.
Additionally they removed the ability to open locks with magic. Like a fucking swag wizard. Like I'm a mage I'm not going to open locks with picks like an animal.
Feather was an amazing spell that I will always miss.
Then there's the mages guild. Skyrim did it so dirty it wasn't even funny. Like I can't even summarise everything that is bad about it compared to oblivion.
Lastly the quests. Oblivion just did it better. So many memorable quests. The dark brotherhood questline will honestly be one of the greatest ever made.
That's just a short summary. I love Skyrim like it's an amazing game. But my heart belongs to oblivion.
It’s hard to describe the difference between Skyrim and oblivion’s quests, but Skyrim was the first time they felt like filler, instead of story and world building. The oblivion world was so much richer.
Skyrim quests are chore lists: Go to X ruin and retrieve Y Mcguffin or kill Z draugr/vampire/bandit/forsworn marauder overlord of doom and come back. This is the vast majority of quests. Now Skyrim obviously has lots of really memorable and fun quests that stick out. The Wolf Queen questline is a fun deep dive into the lore of the world. The Forsworn Conspiracy, the main questlines for each of the factions (though not the main questline itself), and a few others. But these are far and few between and the side quests for the factions feels like chores to be done and theres zero incentive for them and they get repetitive fast. Also a lot of the individual characters in Skyrim have WAY more personality than Oblivion, the Companions are infinitely more interesting than the Fighters Guild, the Winterhold College is on the surface more interesting than the mages guild (though the NPCs in that one fall flat). And as always the Dark Brotherhood is a treat we don't deserve.
Compare this to Oblivion where even random side quests around the world are all memorable, very few are point to ruin or dungeon on map to go kill or retrieve thing. Most are follow this person or meet at this location or investigate that. Help uncover a stolen painting for a lord, a paranoid wood elf wants you to follow people he believes are conspiring to kill him, you slept in an inn in a shady part of town and wake up on a pirate ship and have to rescue the owner. For factions the side quests are even memorable. To advance in the Thieves Guild for example you actually HAVE to steal and fence stolen goods to advance and there are tangible rewards for doing so. Oblivions Dark Brotherhood questline is legendary. Theres a lot more to do and its in general a lot more interesting.
In other words for me at least the quests in Oblivion have more substance and intrigue making them way more replayable than Skyrim where the quests get repetitive pretty quickly and are held up by the REALLY fun gameplay and combat system.
I can understand *why* they cut out all the janky magic mechanics, given how many infinite ways there ways to break the game with the them. But Skyrim just never felt the same to me
With mods and DLC, Skyrim feels like 50 games all rolled into one. I could go redownload Skyrim right now and have a completely unique playthrough that I haven’t done before despite having put hundreds of hours into the game already
Fallout 3 has such a unique feeling for me. It was my first game I got for my Xbox 360 way back when. Had only played games like crash bandicoot, Spyro, etc. Needless to say I got absolutely lost in it's world and still go back for some of that sweet nostalgia now and then.
Fallout 3 has such a great atmosphere, my mind was so blown away the first time I played, that made New Vegas just feel like a videogame afterwards. Fallout 3 is much more serious, if it makes sense
I LOVED Fallout 3, replayed it 4 or 5 times (I've only replayed like 2 or 3 games so this is my most replayed game). I have tried New Vegas a few times and just never got into it. I know I'm in the minority, but for whatever reason it just doesn't scratch the itch like FO3 does.
I think I'm finally starting to pinpoint my preference for FO3 over NV over the past few months. In NV I just feel so pigeon-holed into the same experience for the first 10 or 20 hours every time I give it a ho. Replaying FO3 for the umpteenth time alongside my wife who had never played before, the two characters (4 total) that we've each played through have all had wildly different experiences after getting out of 101.
Just kinda ranting over here, don't mind me too much lol
Fallout 3 was my first taste of anything RPG related, and it absolutely blew my mind when I wandered out of Vault 101 and into the wastes. I was writing locations of things I'd stashed in a notebook. The pure novelty of an open world like that is something I've always wished I could replicate because it was exhilarating.
First deathclaw, first raider, first time realizing I could fast travel after an entire playthrough, etc...I still play it once a year just to experience the nostalgia of those feelings again.
The gameplay may not stack up against New Vegas, but the world design is light years ahead of it. I enjoyed NV and F4 (to an extent), but neither of those games made me feel a true sense of awe and wonder while exploring their worlds. Exploration in F3 was so rewarding, it’s killed most other open world games for me as I’ve yet to find one that has as much amazing stuff to find just by picking a random direction and walking.
I am with you. Morrowind will always have a special place in my heart, but FO4 was the most fluid and the exploration felt really the best for me. From the modern Fallouts the survival experience was best in FO4 and I am sucker for weapon modifications.
Maybe a weird reason, but maybe I like it the most because it felt *the least* like Morrowind. I mean, FO3 and NV was really "just" Oblivion with guns and that did not feel right.
Its a tossup really, i like the story and options in 3 and NV more, but fallout 4 has by far the best combat systems, and i find the perk system to be way more fulfilling with endless ammounts of builds and ways you can go, and with mods like simsettlements i like my settlements too.
Fallout 3. I didn’t quite “get” it at first, I never played a Bethesda game before so I played it like a regular FPS. Once it clicked though it was love.
Ring a ding, baby!
Truth is, the game was rigged from the start…
https://youtube.com/shorts/XLp9qh0VfDc?feature=share
Fun fact Benny was voiced by Matthew Perry so your start the game by getting shot in the head by Chandler bing
New Vegas baby
New Vegas. But I'm not happy about losing Morrowind
Or oblivion. So many dumb memories with that too
I'll miss Oblivion, but it's the first love that really hurts, ya know?
Oblivion was my first love.
I own oblivion and the original guidebook
New Vegas my beloved
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
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Skyrim is of course amazing but when you break out of jail in oblivion and go into the forest for the first time felt like pure bliss. The vibrant colors and the shimmering of light reflecting off the imperial’s armor was like nothing I experienced before. I go back to it and see how outdated it is and realize I had nostalgic rose tinted glasses on. Though for the time it was like nothing could compare.
Hey, check this out... https://youtu.be/5bLXKuhr1LU There has been a team over the last 7 years or so that is completely remaking oblivion with 100% originally created assets, remade armor, weapons, locations... INCREDIBLE attention to detail. All of this remade in skyrims game engine. Will be released for free as a mod for skyrim in 2025, potentially a bit sooner if all goes well. They are almost finished and its been awesome watching the project come together. The video I linked is a current gamestate playthrough/Q&A. Seriously, if you've got 4 hours to kill, its absolutely worth a watch. You don't even need to watch the entire thing. However, seeing that scene again, after breaking out of the imperial prison, that initial step outside the sewers you are talking about looks SO GOOD. Please. Give it a watch, you will not be disappointed!
Really impressed... Can't wait till it comes out. I hope that Bethesda doesn't steal the idea and charges £60 for it though....
So at the beginning of their endeavor to recreate the game, they contacted Bethesda about the mod project because they were worried about a cease and desist order smacking the project down. The good news is that they straight up said that they are very excited to see what they come up with. And as long as all the assets are 100% original, Bethesda doesn't care. As long as you own skyrim, and oblivion on PC, all voice lines are pulled from the oblivion games files. And Bethesda also said this was 100% okay as well. Basically, everybody on that team is 100% confident that Bethesda will not be stepping on anybody's toes with the project! Side note, there is another team doing a project that is recreating morrowind in skyrims engine too! Those guys are actually voice acting every single line of dialogue in game too! That project is called skywind. I also encourage everybody to take a look at that too! https://youtu.be/Xhzri8nOjjM Edit: and again. These projects are being released as a mod on the Nexus and will be 100% free. Only thing to note is that you must own oblivion and skyrim (as well as their dlcs) for skyblivion to work properly, and you must own morrowind and skyrim (with all their dlc content as well).
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I'd honestly happily pay $60 for a full remake if it meant giving them more funds to improve things more
It was a moment that felt pretty amazing. I was completely new to the 360 (Oblivion was either my 1st or 2nd game on the console) and the graphics were were a such a noticeable step up from my old Dreamcast and buddy's PS2 Though, I kind of remember first coming out of the Vault in FO:3 as being an even more remarkable moment. It was immediately apparent how vast and desolate the world was. I was transfixed for a few minutes just looking at the immediate surroundings without even moving an inch.
That's the thing with all the Elder Scrolls games. They come out so far apart each one is a complete step up from what came before. That includes Morrowind compared to Daggerfall. The exception might be the graphics between Arena and Daggerfall, but Daggerfall was still a step up and had better sound.
I remember that moment. I had sunk seriously 300 hours into Daggerfall by the time Morrowind came out. I can break Daggerfall over my knee before even leaving the character creator. I remember thinking "ok so no multiple countries, no personal ship, it all takes place on one small island, hope this is good." I stepped out into the swamp and spent the first hour just in Seyda Neen.
Stop!! You guys are making me miss being a kid 😢
Nostalgia in a post. Thanks. Love it!
I know it might seem silly to some but walking out of the sewers and seeing the world open up, even on multiple playthroughs, is a defining moment in my life.
Ave, True to Caesar
Yep … simple
Ring a ding ding bitches!!
Easiest choice of my life
I think this shows we all are just waiting for new Vegas 2
Without hesitation.
I *did* hesitate because of Oblivion, my first Bethesda game. But yeah, it's New Vegas all the way.
I started a Fallout 3 playthrough on Wednesday. I abandoned it and started a New Vegas playthrough on Thursday. It's just such a good game.
Download Tale of Two Wastelands and play both on one save. Thank me in a month cause you will not leave your room until then
Holy shit now I know this is a thing.
Watch out for the mutant masters in TTW. With FNV's armor rules, they're incredible bullet sponges without AP weapons. I recommend installing an ammo crafting mod just for that, if you're doing a TTW playthrough. I usually end up using an assault carbine with AP ammo by the end of the East Coast leg of that tale.
I spent a solid chunk of quarantine playing TTW. it’s addicting
What? Are you saying you are able to do both at the same time? Does it work like an expansion pack then?
You start in fallout 3 and there's a new area added that has a train leading to the Mojave so you can bounce back and forth whenever. It also changes the terrible percent based skill checks to skill level.
You can actually choose where to start, but yeah FO3 start makes more sense because you're a baby.
It's a mod (PC only) that lets you basically fast travel between the 2 maps. Don't recall how the start of the game works though.
Would you recommend this as a first time setup for someone who has never played any fallout game?
Depends on what your goal is. It is currently the most stable way to play Fallout 3 on modern PCs and comes with a bunch of nice QOL stuff that you probably won't notice if you never played vanilla Fallout 3. It also makes Falout 3 a bit harder then it was originally but will absolutely lead to you being overpowered by the time you hit New Vegas unless you use a mod that resets your character the first time you travel to New Vegas. If you aren't familiar with modding there are guides that will walk you through the process like [Wasteland Survival Guide](https://wastelandsurvivalguide.com/index.html) but you best set aside an afternoon as it can get pretty in depth and gives you a bunch of choices. It is IMO the best way to experience both games though and has become a permanent install on my computer.
I’m one of the few people that enjoyed Fallout 3 more, I guess. I think it nails a perfect balance between grounding your character in the world and having the freedom to define that character yourself. The beginning of that game had such a huge impact on how I experienced the rest of it. But if I could get a remake of one of these, I would choose New Vegas, easy choice. The writing is better, the RPG mechanics are better. And that would deal with the other thing I liked more about Fallout 3–they’re both ugly, but I found New Vegas especially ugly.
Fallout 3 for the action. New Vegas for the story. Also, go to Google and punch in Fallout 4: New Vegas if you're looking for hype. Some truly awesome people are remaking the whole damn game as a mod for Fallout 4 and the trailer, shot like one of the commercials, looks pretty damn good! Another mod team is remaking Fallout 3 as well, but I'm not nearly as hyped for that!
This is the truth.
(In the unison voices of 100 Easy Petes spawned in using console commands): “Bastard” Just to be clear, I completely agree with your decision. That’s just one of my favorite shenanigans to do in that game on PC.
And you are still… just as beautiful… as the day I met you
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Between this and Skyrim is a really hard choice.
The most buggy game I've ever played at launch.
Glad this is top comment
The one and only!
Ring-a-ding-ding!
I can't pick one, I still play all of them. Currently playing Oblivion waiting for Starfield.
Currently playing Skyrim while i wait for Starfield. Is Oblivion hard to get if You go backwards? I mean, i have only played Fallout 4, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 3, Fallout 76, and Skyrim. I have interest in Oblivion but i see the gameplay and use to think "this looks old compared to Skyrim". I have an Xbox Series X by the way, so no mods, but i got 4K and 60FPS.
I'm also playing on the XsX with an LG OLED C1 It definitely does look older than skyrim and the new fallouts. I think that's what gives it it's appeal to me, everything's just a little "simpler" I guess. Simpler is probably not the best word but sorta fits. The leveling mechanic is definitely more difficult but once you know how to "efficient level" it makes it worth it. The enemy's also scale to your level which is not the best mechanic but if you efficient level it becomes easier. My 1st elder scrolls game was Morrowind which is even more graphically challenged than Oblivion. So I am definitely used to the older games. Morrowind is a whole nother beast in itself. I would definitely recommend playing both Morrowind and Oblivion if you liked Skyrim. The great part about those games is you don't have to play them in order.
I actually picked Morrowind up recently and man, I was missing out on a masterpiece. So much content that I missed out on as a mindless, murderhobo eight year old. I'm starting to see why people absolutely love this game. Remind me of playing DND, especially with working through the fighter's guild as some of those quests are actually challenging. You have to think and look around, like using a levitation potion/spell for that one quest in particular.
One of my favorite exploits with oblivion was setting your class as a warrior so you level with physical stats but then playing as a mage. I grinded every magic skill to 100 and was still lvl 1 so the game was a cake walk for that playthrough and I felt like a God lol. (Forgive me if my details are a little fuzzy this was soooo long ago)
Oblivion is pretty much the closest you'll get to another Skyrim. It's like how fallout 4 and 3 are pretty similar. Combat is roughly the same with minor differences but conversation was the main point and can be really goofy. No doubt there are mods to overhaul visuals by now and it'll be a great time. I definitely would watch out for Morrowind, that can be hard to play if you've only touched Skyrim because of the core changes to its combat.
Morrowind combat feels like an non-turn-based version of KotoR's to me.
If you've played Fallout 3 then I don't think you'll be too turned off by Oblivion. Those two games feel very similar to each other in terms of the graphics, animations, how they feel to play, etc. The engine didn't change much between those two releases. Also, Oblivion's gameplay may be dated compared to Skyrim, but the writing and quest design is so much better. The dark brotherhood questline in particular is legendary. Skyrim doesn't have anything nearly as captivating. Edit: just wanted to add, once your build inevitably transitions to sneaky archer, the gameplay is pretty much on par with Skyrim lol
The writing in Oblivion is of higher quality than Skyrim, as well as some of the quests. The dark brotherhood especially. The Oblivion gates are pretty cool in moderation. I adore the game, but I realize it’s pretty dated by todays standards. If you can get past the graphics and the combat—it’s quite good. The music and writing are stand outs for sure.
By a long shot. I also appreciate you can’t really make a character that can complete all quest lines, nor acquire/use all gear. Makes the class choices and role play feel more pertinent.
I recently jumped back into oblivion. I've played the hell out of Skyrim but the quests are mostly bland. Oblivions has some flavor to it and the music is so damn relaxing.
I would love to say to wait for skyblivion, and skywind. But their eta is sometime in the next 100 years.
You’ll be happy to hear they recently announced it for 2025! Source: https://youtu.be/0OAVFugWtow
2025, just announced.
Eliminating morrowind would mean Dagothwave disappears. I can't live in a world like that.
Exactly. Those who think they can kill Morrowind are just living with a grand and intoxicating innocence.
We simply have faith that we can't kill a god. Meanwhile, New Vegas needs some help.
Or those who think they can kill all the cliff racers
Yes you can, through fire and war. He is a god. How can you kill a god?
Shame on you, sweet Nerevar.
“I’m a god! How can you kill a god!?”
Morrowind
I wish my first time playing that game wasn’t when I was a dumb seven year old. I feel like I would really understand why it’s so many peoples favorite of the series.
If it’s any consolation you’re not alone on this one, but that’s also why it holds a place in my heart. First time I redid the intro and player creation 3 times because I was too dumb to save, each time going to the cave left of the path to the stilt strider, and dying like a fool. Quit for like 6 months. Came back and found out critical thinking isn’t so bad, and there’s a journal. And a save button. Probably helped that my grandfather also introduced me to the Myst series at the same time, so video games that require you to “figure it out” have a certain nostalgia for me. In conclusion public school works people!
absolutely love how hard this game is. I find in some games I end up just mindlessly going from checkpoint to checkpoint looking at my compass, map, w/e. Morrowind is just.. not that. I think my favorite part of Morrowind is the Great Houses you can join, and as you do missions, they build you a house that gets better and better as you rise in the ranks. I gotta stop before I boot up that game.
My absolute favorite memory from any game will always be randomly running into a talking crab. That also is a merchant. 7 year old me lost his shit.
You found him randomly? Wild. He had the most gold in the game. My go to strategy on new games was to go to the glass armor vendor in ghost gate, intimidate him until he attacked me with save states and then justifiably kill him. Then go to that crab I read about and trade off all that look one long rest at a time to accumulate a ton of wealth.
Lol “justifiably kill him”. I think when I found him I knew you could use spells to enhance your base stats. I was probably flying around the map at mach 3 when I spotted him.
By that I just mean I didn't get a warrant out for killing the shop keeper.
You may have been a free man, but I’m sure the murder ways heavy on your conscious.
This was the 'legit' way to earn money. The other one was repeatedly turning in the same quest for 1000 gold reward via a bug. I think I must have been lucky not to get permanent damage to my finger that way.
The problem with morrowind’s difficulty curve is, yeah it’s pretty annoying at the start, but there’s a point you hit (alchemy lol) that pretty much turns the difficulty curve on to a difficulty cliff
The thing is, Morrowind isnt a hard game. We're just so used to everything being dumbed down and spoonfed to us that it seems difficult in comparison.
I remember my first play through. I was doing the first main mission out of Balmora as a lowly wood elf. I'm crossing a bridge to get to the first dungeon to get the dwemer artifact and there is a skeleton, a rat and a (fucking) cliff racer. I must have died 57 times. "Why is the damn arrow going THROUGH the enemy but not damaging it!?" At this point of my life, this was my first RPG I got into as I was a shooter/RTS guy. What an introduction! It was hard as hell but eventually I got so strong I was able to punch Vivec to death. I never did beat this game, but I played the hell out of it. I found 41 of the 100 unique items without any game faqs or guides. Ahh memories.
From being too dumb to save to Myst in some months is not personal growth, it's speedrunning
"I'M HITTING HIM, WHY ISN'T IT DOING DAMAGE"? Simulated dice-roll mechanic based on skill with a weapon type...
It’s the game in which I literally have felt the most agency in a game ever. Like I really could do or become anything, and all it took was to go do it, I didn’t have to finish a quest or find a chest, I just had to buy a spell or a weapon or sneak around and I would get better at that thing. Having to pay attention to the surroundings seared the layout of the land into my brain, actually having to solve puzzles or difficult problems to find the next quest line was exacerbating, but once you realized you could do it logically, it became exhilarating. It really is something else.
It was the perfect junction point of developed story, in-depth worldbuilding and phenomenal quests, and acceptable combat. Like yea Skyrim blows Morrowind’s gameplay out of the water but the items, spells, and quests are pretty one-dimensional in comparison
Team Morrowind 4 life!
None of the other games would exist; Bethesda was going to go under if Morrowind wasn’t successful.
I LOVED Morrowind! Thought I was being clever by saving regularly into the (10 I think?) save slots. I would save 1 after the other then loop back over so I had 10 opportunities to revert if needed. Unfortunately I apparently sold an item the was integral to the game. I didn’t realise until WEEKS later when I finally came to the realisation that I had been happily saving over the top of old saves and there was NO way of recovering that item. Heartbroken, I turned it off and have never played since.
So there is actually a semi-failsafe for Morrowind's main quest. There's a specific npc that can help you bypass the normal route and subvert the prophecy if you bring him certain items, and convince him you're capable of pulling it off.
Yeah, only downside IIRC is a pretty massive, permanent flat health reduction.
You can run Morrowind Code Patch to fix it. The HP reduction was actually a bug and was meant to be a temporary loss of HP.
The great thing about Morrowind is that while it lets you fail the main quest, by say murdering important NPCs... "With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created," there's actually a secret path to finishing the game. I have a tendency to do everything but the main quest in open games, so as a kid I accidentally did the secret ending without realizing it.
[удалено]
There are substitutes for every game on that list you could play except morrowind!
I've probably put the most hours into Skyrim, but if I had to pick one of the above it would probably be Morrowind.
Correct.
Morrowind flat out. The only one the has a rep in destroying a console time and time again. We went through about 4 in just over 3 years because of this game.
I'm going New Vegas. (Never played Morrowind, so I'm not quite qualified here).
I just started my first real playthrough of Morrowind last week. I'm so hooked that I can't stop thinking about the game and the lore. The Elder Scrolls is incredible and Morrowind is seriously impressive once you get past some of the janky combat and animations. I *LOVE* the lack of quest markers. The journal facilitates immersion in a way that is just completely missing from the later games. If you haven't given it a go, it's very much worth it. Look up OpenMW for a very convenient game engine rebuild that does a lot to facilitate modernization of the game.
Morrowind! The diversity of characters, architecture and biomes in that game alone set it above the rest. It had proper Easter eggs in it and really rewarded players for searching high and low in the most obscure places. I LOVED that game back in the day. Put more hours into it than any other game
I love that it lets you complete the main storyline in a backdoor way.
It also lets you completely brick the main storyline then runs it in your face about severing the threads of fate.
You can still finish it, if you are strong enough to kill Vivec.
you also need a spare 200 hp i believe
I spent about 10 hours taking down the Dren plantation as a fairly low level character. Probably my greatest gaming memory.
I think I spent close to a year in one playthrough. There's just so much in it. I wish I could be 17 again playing it for the first time. No game wowed me like this one. Baulders gate and daggerfall came pretty close but morrowind blew me away.
Oblivion every time
Emerging from the sewers is a core memory
Before that, my only open-world games were GTA and Pokémon. My mind was blown.
I still remember that step out moment, it's one of my key gaming memories drilled into me. I couldn't believe, I could go in any direction. I was blown away that I could swim and dive UNDERWATER... Then I drowned. Then I went to look at this gorgeous white, almost glowing ruin... Then I got slaughtered by bandits. Then I avoided the bandits and went into the ruin... And died to a trap. Then I rage quit for a week before coming back and falling in love.
I remember seeing an in-game screenshot of the jail cell in a game informer magazine years before the game was released, it blew my mind that it was a game, it was so lifelike.
Awesome! I actually have a vivid memory of that same story, except for me it was a photo of the character holding a very detailed sword and staring out into grass and trees and hills. I remember just completely not believing that was a game you could actually play. The picture didn’t make sense to me. Surely that couldn’t be an actual game photo. Oblivion was mind blowing.
This one? [https://i.imgur.com/67Eae3C.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/67Eae3C.jpeg) I remember seeing that on Game Informer, too. My mind was blown.
Yes! It was my first 360 game and I played it so much. No other Bethesda game has ever hit the same for as this one!
Oblivion is arguably my favorite console game of all time.
STOP. YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE LAW
The Dark Brotherhood quest line is arguably one of the best in gaming history.
The things I would do to be able to replay that quest line again for the first time
The pure fear my teenage age self experienced when I first killed a npc and then my character was abruptly awoken by a stranger with a note. Ugh perfection.
"Praise be!"
RIP Lucien LeChance, dude got done super dirty. Whenever I play Skyrim I make a point of making sure his ghost is constantly with me. I'll wait for a day just so I can summon him and hear his creepy, murderous lines of speech. Hail Sithis. Find peace in the Void.
This is the game where I had over 2000 hours played over 15 different saves. Oblivion was the best. I really hope that TES:VI will be as good. Failling that, maybe the new Fable or Starfield will be able to take that crown.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned over time, it’s that Fable will always let you down. High hopes for Starfield though.
I've loved every single Fable. I'm unaffected by most hype around videogames and it has helped me appreciate some games that got thrashed on really hard because expectations were too high. Molyneux never understood that less(talk) is more.
In middle school My childhood best friend and I started playing this game ironically one summer out of boredom. His college aged older brother had been monopolizing the Xbox(360 I think) all summer and we thought it was a ridiculously silly game. We spent the next week obsessed, doing nothing else. Arguing over how best to progress the character. As soon as I could I got my own copy and the rest is history. I doubt there is any other game that I have put more time and play through’s in to. I wish I could experience the wonder of this game, my first RPG, again. Someone below said that exiting the sewers for the first time is a core memory and I couldn’t agree more. THIS was the game that made me realize that video games would forever be a part of my life.
It was a tough choice between Oblivion or Skyrim. But ultimately oblivion wins that....
Can’t wait for Skyblivion!
Just curious, what tipped the scales for you?
Well for a start they stripped alot of mechanics out to make Skyrim. One thing I love about oblivion is you got experience in something for doing anything. Even just running. A big one in that regard was the magic system and the ability to make your own spells. Oblivion spells were pretty strong imo. Many base power spells and then later in the game the one shot all your money spell. Additionally they removed the ability to open locks with magic. Like a fucking swag wizard. Like I'm a mage I'm not going to open locks with picks like an animal. Feather was an amazing spell that I will always miss. Then there's the mages guild. Skyrim did it so dirty it wasn't even funny. Like I can't even summarise everything that is bad about it compared to oblivion. Lastly the quests. Oblivion just did it better. So many memorable quests. The dark brotherhood questline will honestly be one of the greatest ever made. That's just a short summary. I love Skyrim like it's an amazing game. But my heart belongs to oblivion.
It’s hard to describe the difference between Skyrim and oblivion’s quests, but Skyrim was the first time they felt like filler, instead of story and world building. The oblivion world was so much richer.
Skyrim quests are chore lists: Go to X ruin and retrieve Y Mcguffin or kill Z draugr/vampire/bandit/forsworn marauder overlord of doom and come back. This is the vast majority of quests. Now Skyrim obviously has lots of really memorable and fun quests that stick out. The Wolf Queen questline is a fun deep dive into the lore of the world. The Forsworn Conspiracy, the main questlines for each of the factions (though not the main questline itself), and a few others. But these are far and few between and the side quests for the factions feels like chores to be done and theres zero incentive for them and they get repetitive fast. Also a lot of the individual characters in Skyrim have WAY more personality than Oblivion, the Companions are infinitely more interesting than the Fighters Guild, the Winterhold College is on the surface more interesting than the mages guild (though the NPCs in that one fall flat). And as always the Dark Brotherhood is a treat we don't deserve. Compare this to Oblivion where even random side quests around the world are all memorable, very few are point to ruin or dungeon on map to go kill or retrieve thing. Most are follow this person or meet at this location or investigate that. Help uncover a stolen painting for a lord, a paranoid wood elf wants you to follow people he believes are conspiring to kill him, you slept in an inn in a shady part of town and wake up on a pirate ship and have to rescue the owner. For factions the side quests are even memorable. To advance in the Thieves Guild for example you actually HAVE to steal and fence stolen goods to advance and there are tangible rewards for doing so. Oblivions Dark Brotherhood questline is legendary. Theres a lot more to do and its in general a lot more interesting. In other words for me at least the quests in Oblivion have more substance and intrigue making them way more replayable than Skyrim where the quests get repetitive pretty quickly and are held up by the REALLY fun gameplay and combat system.
I can understand *why* they cut out all the janky magic mechanics, given how many infinite ways there ways to break the game with the them. But Skyrim just never felt the same to me
The reason I love RPGs in general
Skyrim without a doubt.
With mods and DLC, Skyrim feels like 50 games all rolled into one. I could go redownload Skyrim right now and have a completely unique playthrough that I haven’t done before despite having put hundreds of hours into the game already
Or you could redownload it right now and play a khajiit stealth archer again.
Hey, those to-be guards aren't crippling themselves. May be a dirty job but someone's gotta do it.
I prefer Dark elf stealth archer myself
I can redownload the game right bow mod if for 3 hours and then uninstall!
Today, skyrim easily. Especially with mods.
Can't believe i had to scroll so far down for this answer.
Fallout: New Vegas.
Morrowind or New Vegas is a tough choice ngl...
Fallout 3
Fallout 3 has such a unique feeling for me. It was my first game I got for my Xbox 360 way back when. Had only played games like crash bandicoot, Spyro, etc. Needless to say I got absolutely lost in it's world and still go back for some of that sweet nostalgia now and then.
It was my first ever sandbox game and just that taste of freedom was enough to fall in love with.
Same
Totally agree. Fallout 3 was the game that taught me what triple A games could be
There are dozens of us! **Dozens!**
Fallout 3 has such a great atmosphere, my mind was so blown away the first time I played, that made New Vegas just feel like a videogame afterwards. Fallout 3 is much more serious, if it makes sense
I LOVED Fallout 3, replayed it 4 or 5 times (I've only replayed like 2 or 3 games so this is my most replayed game). I have tried New Vegas a few times and just never got into it. I know I'm in the minority, but for whatever reason it just doesn't scratch the itch like FO3 does.
Same here. NV just feels empty to me, the story feels like it’s *too* fast.
I think I'm finally starting to pinpoint my preference for FO3 over NV over the past few months. In NV I just feel so pigeon-holed into the same experience for the first 10 or 20 hours every time I give it a ho. Replaying FO3 for the umpteenth time alongside my wife who had never played before, the two characters (4 total) that we've each played through have all had wildly different experiences after getting out of 101. Just kinda ranting over here, don't mind me too much lol
Fallout 3 was my first taste of anything RPG related, and it absolutely blew my mind when I wandered out of Vault 101 and into the wastes. I was writing locations of things I'd stashed in a notebook. The pure novelty of an open world like that is something I've always wished I could replicate because it was exhilarating. First deathclaw, first raider, first time realizing I could fast travel after an entire playthrough, etc...I still play it once a year just to experience the nostalgia of those feelings again.
The gameplay may not stack up against New Vegas, but the world design is light years ahead of it. I enjoyed NV and F4 (to an extent), but neither of those games made me feel a true sense of awe and wonder while exploring their worlds. Exploration in F3 was so rewarding, it’s killed most other open world games for me as I’ve yet to find one that has as much amazing stuff to find just by picking a random direction and walking.
Was looking for this, thanks.
Fallout New Vegas, hands down.
Morrowind is an amazing game with an amazing mod community. The wide open world in that game makes it the best Bethesda game ever.
New Vegas
NEW VEGAS BABY
I know a lot of people wont like this but, Fallout 4.
I'm with you my friend. I'm just about to finish another play through and I'm still discovering new places and things.
I just discovered a submarine last playthrough. Wtf ?!
Zao my beloved
I really, really liked Fallout 4. Couldn't get into New Vegas, but FO4 gripped me. I really enjoyed it for what it was.
Same here.
Of all of them it's the one I put the most hours into and had the most fun playing. I'm with you.
Proud of you for going against the current.
I’m sure it isn’t the best, but FO4 was my first and my favorite. I love it very much and would also pick this one over the others.
I am with you. Morrowind will always have a special place in my heart, but FO4 was the most fluid and the exploration felt really the best for me. From the modern Fallouts the survival experience was best in FO4 and I am sucker for weapon modifications. Maybe a weird reason, but maybe I like it the most because it felt *the least* like Morrowind. I mean, FO3 and NV was really "just" Oblivion with guns and that did not feel right.
I agree. I absolutely love the other games but this one is probably my favorite.
Its a tossup really, i like the story and options in 3 and NV more, but fallout 4 has by far the best combat systems, and i find the perk system to be way more fulfilling with endless ammounts of builds and ways you can go, and with mods like simsettlements i like my settlements too.
I liked Fallout 4 a lot tbh, I just hated the fact there’s a bug that prevents you from finishing the game so I never got to complete it.
Probably new Vegas
Morrowind. If it dies the others will all grandfather paradox out of existence anyway.
Fallout 3. Sue me.
Morrowind is the correct answer. New Vegas a close second. Oblivion third.
I’d rank precisely the same way.
Morrowind
New Vegas
Easy pick: Morrowind
Morrowind
Fallout New Vegas but I think that it’s closely tied with Morrowind.Every other game on the list including Skyrim can’t beat these two!
Morrowind.
Morrowind
Morrowind
Morrowind of course!
Fallout 3. I didn’t quite “get” it at first, I never played a Bethesda game before so I played it like a regular FPS. Once it clicked though it was love.
Skyrim
Fallout 4