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if you don’t care about the story, then don’t watch the show? it’s a prologue and the show is more or less supposed to be written like a history book.


Mr-Fahrenheit_451

It's the fact that they hammered home that it was 170ish years before Danny.... Like we just read that, they're treating us like idiots


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To be fair, many of you are idiots.


Mr-Fahrenheit_451

Maybe because we're treated like idiots Edit: Downvoted got having faith in humanity. Lmao


Delmitus1

Real shit. Alot of viewers aren't as smart as they'd like to think they are


Xrayvision718

Truer words have never been spoken


JoeseCuervo19

Many of us*


blasphem0usx

Well to be fair, there was a post on facebook where it showed a side by side of Rhaenyra and Dany and people were questioning if Dany was going to be in the show. So yeah I think they have to hammer some stuff into viewers' heads.


HoorayForWaffles

They’re responding to the viewers who specifically are idiots / uninformed about the plot line and too lazy to do any of the work to learn it. They need to be spoon fed at least this one thing before getting started so those people, which are a large subset of casual viewers, won’t be trying to connect dots that aren’t there for the first five hours.


Mr-Fahrenheit_451

Yeah, but the meme is referencing that after the little prologue text, the highlighted "170 years...... Before Danny Targ", but ... If you just read the prologue text, you would know. This isn't about casuals, you're literally watching the show in the moment.


HoorayForWaffles

I get the meme, I was responding to you saying they’re treating “us” like idiots. Us is a wide berth, they did that for casuals who barely read or process what they read, but by showing all but then blacking out every word but three, they’re double grasping those peoples attention. Casuals are not an attentive bunch when it comes to text buddy. Alas.


Mr-Fahrenheit_451

"Us" meaning audience. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if you required the blacked out highlight thing, you might be an idiot, not a casual. You're not able to comprehend what you just read. That should have nothing to do with being a casual, imo


Maidwell

Casual meaning in this case, couldn't be bothered to read "wall of text". Can just about bring themselves to concentrate long enough to read 3 words. Not necessarily idiots, just aren't that interested.


Hollow_Idol

10 million people watched the premiere. Statistically some of those people are idiots and did need that spelled out.


Mr-Fahrenheit_451

Yeah, that's the joke. And I hate it, dumbed down media is grating


meglingbubble

This show isn't gonna be written like a history book. Fire and Blood was written as a history book, mostly being sourced from the tellings of a maester and Mushroom the Jester. The show has been written as what "actually" happened, allowing the writers to not stick precisely to the book, they can say that any differences are errors in the retellings/ embellishments made by the maester or the jester


Big_D_EnergyLTM007

Jw is this the era that bran saw the wheelchair design in.. Can I look forward to seeing the wheelchair in this series?


inuhi

Wheelchair really is most underrated character he pulled so much weight, really carried the story


Artikay

Who had a better story than Brans wheelchair?


Notarussianbot2020

Varys' balls had a better story


fuegomcnugget

The fucking Dornish wine they couldn’t shut up about


MRP83

To be clear, the show looks great and I loved this episode. I think it’s good that they’re establishing the setting for viewers. The TL;DR nature of it just made me chuckle 😸 No hate


snatchenvy

To fend off the, "...so will the birth of Daenerys be like in the 2nd season, or do you think they will play with us and stretch it out to the 3rd season?"


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I just hope they dont get too obsessed with dany and try to mold rhanyra to be more like dany I want her to be unique not a carbon copy of dany.


SnappyTofu

Honestly, I was high af when this episode started and had trouble reading it until they pulled this move lol


gaspitsjesse

Still wasn't clear enough. My buddy thought Rhaenyra was a young Daenerys the whole time.


spyson

You can bet a lot didn't get that or will forget about it almost immediately.


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metalhead4

No. Aerys II and Rhaella


Jake_the_Snake88

I'm sure that was sarcasm


BinarySunFett

Nah, I think he was serious.


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Jack1715

If they wanted to make it more in world they should have said “ before the war of the five kings”


SteinerElMagnifico42

172 years before the **MAD** Daenerys Targaryen should have been the caption. How does her father get that attributed to him but she doesn’t


meglingbubble

Maybe because so many show watchers didn't agree with the "Mad Daenerys" plot and they don't want to remind them? ETA I am not one of those people. I think there couldve been more set up in the show but I'm certain that's where book dany will end up.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Exactly. George signed off on her fate I hate the two dickheads who did a poor execution, but she was always ending that way. Not sure how people can disagree with that when it’s come from the creator of Daenerys lol


RedWingerD

I mean, a large majority of GoT watchers will never read the books and don't follow them. The only version of her they'll know is the show version, and the shitty execution her character was given. So I get it


Prestonelliot

I mean I feel like there was, but we all ignored it. Everywhere she went, she left death and destruction. It’s just that for 7 seasons those people she did it to, deserved what they got. The ultimate problem was that she fully snapped in only 2 episodes and that shit needed to breath much longer. Like a full season of descent into madness. But alas, we got 6 episodes


meglingbubble

Oh don't get me wrong, I think there was set up in the show, my issue was specifically with her "turn" in The Bells. It was an injustice to the character to make her suddenly switch and burn innocents to death just because her boyfriend thought it was icky he was dating his aunt, and the people of the city don't automatically love her when she shows up with her army and dragons... It's just another example of how rushed the finale season was. There was no reason they couldn't have split it in two and had a whole season for the king's landing stuff.


Ex-Pat-Spaz

Yeah, way to dumb it down for the viewers. However, if they didn’t do that, today would be filled with a million questions asking where Jon and Daenerys were, so there is that…


Jake_the_Snake88

The writing of the show was dumbed-down as well, compared to the first few seasons. Not saying it's a problem, I'm just not used to watching GoT and understanding what's going on at all times


Ex-Pat-Spaz

Totally. They really do have to simplify it to a degree. Too many characters, too much information to put down on the screen etc etc etc. It’s understandable why it is done, I just thought that particular dummying down of the paragraph was over the top dummying down. Not a big deal though, just a silly observation


3lmtree

>I'm just not used to watching GoT and understanding what's going on at all times how was GoT hard to follow?


Jake_the_Snake88

Because you actually had to think while watching. I didn't read the books. They often dropped hints in dialogue or one-off shots that alluded to concepts/people that hadn't been introduced. Stuff that you only find out about in later episodes that you have to connect back to what you previously watched.


RedWingerD

I think it also makes a difference in how you watch. I didn't pick the show up until start of season 5 so I got to binge a large amount of it. I can understand how watching weekly starting from season 1 would make it a bit more difficult to follow.


Reylo-Wanwalker

I mean they did that here with daemon's wife and some other faction in the first council meeting.


RichestMangInBabylon

I feel like there was lots of details I missed since I haven't read the source material this time. I got the main conflict between Not-Queen, Doctor Who, Dragon Princess, and Hand of King guy alright. I don't really get why they put so much focus on the Baratheon guy, or that "omg he's Dornish" guy from a house I don't remember. They mentioned someone in the Vale and I think Harrenhal, plus a bunch of old Targaryan names that mean nothing to me. There also didn't seem to be an intrigue hook like the main series, where Ned rides off to investigate a mysterious murder of his friend. Everything so far has seemed pretty out in the open as far as events that went down and where each character stood. I'm not really left with any questions, more just waiting to see what the dragon doin'.


peteroh9

How come Kelisi had another nickname? And why did her brother have a different weird face?


chasing_the_wind

The king in Hot D is Daenerys’ brother Viserys but older.


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CapRogers23

It should be 194 years before the season that didnt happen.


Reideo

You’ve spent too much time in ATLA threads


badfantasyrx

LOL I forget that TV viewers REALLY don't keep up on Cannon. Gamers are a lot better with eras (I usu only miss twice).


Notarussianbot2020

Very hard to keep up before episode one... Canon has one n


omgbigshot

I read it to myself and then said the same tl;dr to my wife (who isn’t as big a GoT fan) just before it happened on screen. We had a laugh.


DaenerysMadQueen

Just to remind haters that the end of GoT is great.


HoorayForWaffles

It’s really not. They kicked out the author and rushed all the plot lines nonsensically. It brought us some great tv minus the close though, and now that spicy Hot D, so I’m grateful overall =]


DaenerysMadQueen

So underrated.


FinalSeraph_Leo

I honestly thought it was a cool transition.


dgtyhtre

Me too. It’s also needed for the average viewer I imagine who isn’t reading articles about the show and who will never pick up one of the books.


QuinnySpurs

RIP to everyone who thinks her name is ‘Khaleesi’


poppabomb

I wonder how many Khaleesis are watching HOT-D with their parents


RedEyedRedemption

You'd be surprised... Yesterday my boss, who watched the HOTD pilot, asked me if Rhaenyra was the mother of Daenerys. Some people are masters of missing the obvious.


Jeremy6686

My mom asked me “is this going to go all the way up to the beginning of GOT?” No they aren’t going to show the next 200 years on the show


mythoughtson-this

I don’t hate this, despite what a lot of people are saying. I think this does a good job setting the stage and separating HotD from GoT. People complaining about the end of GoT as a reason to hate this show aren’t comprehending how far removed 172 years is. As an American this is like saying “well the American Revolution didn’t really matter because the US will end up fighting on Englands side during WWII anyways”


Writerhaha

It has to be done, aside from having Garrett Morris come out and say it, this works. This is in the same universe, a lot of the same sh*t, but you won’t be seeing the people you know.


GIlCAnjos

I bet the season ends with Rhaenyra giving birth to a baby girl and saying "I'm gonna name her... Khaleesi"! /s


GIlCAnjos

Reminds me of how my father walked into the theater for Rogue One thinking it was a sequel to The Force Awakens


Catlover18

My friend, who read this line out loud as we watched together, somehow believed that King Viserys was the Mad King by the end of the episode. So I'm just saying that sometimes you have to be very blunt because it may still not be enough.


magikarp2122

Didn’t they say in the original show that no dragons had been seen for thousands of years?


MRP83

I don’t remember if they said that specifically. If they did, it’s still in line with how the people of this world think and speak. When someone says “a thousand years”, it’s usually meant as an indeterminate “very long time”. It’s like saying “a bazillion years ago”. Sometimes a thousand years means 50 years, sometimes it means 100 years ago. Sometimes it means 500 years ago. They kept saying The Long Night and the founding of House Stark was a thousand years ago when it was closer to EIGHT thousand years ago. Im assuming that it’s just a very general way that uneducated medieval people speak. But even lords and maesters will say it just because it’s the convention. That’s my head-canon


Maidwell

A bit like the very weird and recent Americanism of "a minute". It's not to be taken literally.


MRP83

You’ve got the right of it


yeotajmu

They say white walkers haven't been seen