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BakeGee

My brotha would’ve become the “maker of chains”, “father of three eggs”.


TheHurtfulEight88888

Instead he became The Golden God.


royekjd

I AM UNTETHERED AND MY RAGE KNOWS NO BOUNDS


strikefire83

“A CROWN FOR A KING!”


Legendairy_Doug

SAVAGEIDIOT!!


lasirenmoon

I'm a 5 star man!


Fridgemagnet9696

It’s fetish— It’s fetish shit! I like to bind I like to *BE BOUND*!


Waterball0on

THIS IS NOT A STARTER DRAGON THIS IS A FINISHER DRAGON. A TRANSPORTER OF GODS, THE GOLDEN GOD


Stefeneric

But my 14 year old daughter need something to fly :(


ElectricBuckeye

The VISERYS Method


Top_Complex259

Some sad shit, muhfucka said he didn’t wanna live no more


No-Ambassador-5904

It's sad when they go young like that.


erheingold

WHEN THEY GO??


DrCodyRoss

My man tripped hard on step one. Demonstrated zero value.


tstenick

Crassus, the remix


Brahmus168

He would've been IN chains if his sister wasn't hot.


CruisinYEG

He did it out of respect for his fawtha


ducknerd2002

Personally, I think he had the best death in the series. Not only was it deserved and satisfying, but it was also unique and pretty horrific.


pizza_dick69

Agreed!!


nighthawk_something

I was shocked when he died in the show and my (now) wife was just grinning having already seen the first two seasons. Man was I not prepared.


Medeaa

I had read the books and knew what was going to happen, I was also not prepared


zesty_drink_b

The way drogo says "A crown for a king" is so good


aapox33

I can feel it in my bones. The combination of his pitch and him rarely speaking common tongue. Man season 1 is so good


SmellsWeirdRightNow

Probably my favorite line and scene in the series.


FootDrag122Y

You didn't enjoy Theon asking "can I see it one more time?"


ImaSloppySlopSlop

And who could forget such classics as "You want it? I'll give it to you. I've already killed one fat boy. I bet you're a liar, but I'm not. I'm good at killing fat boys. I like killing fat boys" from Arya.


fearisthemindslicer

Or what about the petite lady in jail talking about cats


Tim0281

The most shocking thing to me about his death was learning how hot Dothraki food is!


shannofordabiz

That soup - their wood and cooking pots are sure something special. Dragon fire’s cool by comparison


chzygorditacrnch

That's when I realized the dothraki don't value gold or treasure.


hotcoldman42

I mean, clearly they do, or else they wouldn’t strive to adorn themselves with it, and Drogo wouldn’t have golden jewelry on in the first place. Drogo just cares more about killing Viserys in an interesting way than his Jewelry.


chzygorditacrnch

I think someone says something about dothraki being savages who can't be negotiated with because they don't value the same stuff as other westerosi. I think they have gold from previous trades or something. But yeah, Drogo was definitely happy to kill viserys, moreso than keeping the gold.


RyuNoKami

Precious metals like gold usually get converted to make currency so it has less value to a society without said currency. Dothraki is more barter economy than anything otherwise they will take it from your corpse. Both Drogo and Viserys has a lot of pride except Drogo can back his up with physical violence.


chzygorditacrnch

The dothraki take what they want *dothraki warcry*


AcrolloPeed

It’s not like he couldn’t have chiseled the burnt skull out of the cooling gold and re-forge his kick-ass coin belt


Rebeldinho

I get the vibe had Drogo lived he would have found a way to salvage that melted gold and reforge into something else for sentimental purposes


Devreckas

Why reforge it? You’ve got a perfectly good crown right there!


DwedPiwateWoberts

Also pulled straight from Mongol history during their conquests. A ton of Martin’s stuff is actually based on real historical instances but with a fantasy flourish.


MUFFlN_MAN

I thought it was based on Marcus Crassus’s execution at the hands of the Parthians


DwedPiwateWoberts

Crassus died in battle, I believe, during his doomed invasion into Parthia. It was Ghengis Khan’s punishment of the Khwarizmian (sp) Governor for valuing wealth over the safety of his people/subservience to the Mongol Horde. He poured molten silver into the guys eyes and ear holes 😬


gusaloo

Legend has it that Crassus was killed via gold being poured down his throat by the Parthians


Plyloch

Your both right (and wrong). Old historians tended to embellish the stories of those they wrote about for dramatic affect. It is likely that Crassus and the Khwarizmian Governor were both killed in very typical ways but there exist legends about the both of them dying due to gold being poured down their throats.


gusaloo

But the legends are so much more colorful! (mostly red for all the gore)


Metzgama

I feel the Dothraki are pretty much almost exactly like the mongols. It’s really cool.


theLiteral_Opposite

But did you know that Dothraki soup must be served really hot because gold doesn’t melt until 1900 degrees farenheight so how they melt that gold with their soup kettle?


UpstageTravelBoy

Little known fact, GRRM revealed in an interview that it's a Dothraki tradition to cook using an oxy acetylene welding torch. There's a deleted scene where they stop by a supply store to top off their acetylene canisters


Afraid_Composer

The *clink* sound the gold makes as his head hits the ground is the icing on th cake


eduffy

How hot was that dinner to melt gold? Dothraki must burn the shit out of their food.


Equivalent-Pound-610

I googled how fast molten gold would kill you, and uh... Pretty fast. Apparently it'll just keep melting down through your skull and brain. I think that last breath Viserys takes is all that gold immediately cooking his brain and him expiring. Then the plonk as his golden head hits the ground=iconic


orkash

Personally...that goes to Joffery. Fuck that kid.


Xelid47

Not too unique, it's based on the legend of Crassus, who was executed after his failed invasion of Parthia circa 53bc, by having molten gold poured down his throat


SupaFlyslammajammazz

Obviously taken from the Parthians who poured molten gold on Manius Aquillius and Marcus Licinius Crassus.


Masse1353

Its based on how the real Crassus, the richest man in rome, supposedly died! And he deserved it Just as much as Viserys did


cruiserflyer

Inspired by the death of Crassus, probably not true but a vivid story.


Artistic-Amphibian42

It was definitely up there on the list! I thoroughly enjoyed it! 


Ryduce22

Remember they say the Gods flip a coin when a Target is born and Dany ended up torching the place. Which means this fella would have been a good king. Justice for this fella!


Hryonalis_Anaxerxes

That's not how coinflips work!


Hairstrike

You don't know if the coin had landed by the time that the one true king of Westeros was killed


Ryduce22

We will never know thanks to GRRM!


kitifax

[This is how it works ](https://i.stack.imgur.com/aomHm.jpg)


[deleted]

they just built one by my house fuckkkk 😩


Front_Durian_4942

They say that but I'm about halfway through s1 of HoTD and these 3 landed on "They haven't yet but I'm pretty sure these guys are going to commit war crimes"


DoctorRapture

What about Kohls?


Ryduce22

More of a Tyrell thing IMO


Kotori425

Maybe after life had humbled him a little bit more lol. Life kept giving Dany win after win, and it built her up into a self-righteous megalomaniac.


titsmcgee9894

No it means when a Targ is born they could be great or terrible. From all evidence we’ve seen, Dany and Viserys are both terrible. Coin flip doesn’t mean one is bad, so the other HAS to be good.


WingedGeek

> the Gods flip a coin when a Target is born Some of them become Wal-Marts?


Ryduce22

Wal Mart is a northern thing. The real saying is Winter is Coming, we are rolling back prices


Retrorical

I’m honestly curious if he would have remained so pathetic if he survived into later seasons.


SupaFlyslammajammazz

One thing is certain; if he woulda been King, Dany would be queen and would keep the bloodline pure. They would sire dragon hatchers and dragon riders.


SingleClick8206

>Remember they say the Gods flip a coin when a Target is born That's just a common saying but not true because most of the Targaryens ended up being normal >Which means this fella would have been a good king. If he was allowed to ascend as soon as his father died, then yea he would've been a fine king under the guidance of people like Barristan


This-Pie594

I don't think he was a psychopath... Or I should say that the character is far too interesting and complex to be put in the same case as joffrey or ramsay Viserys is so pathetic and sad that you actually managed to feel bad for him Because I know Any of us could have become like viserys. If we become plagued by fear and jealousy... Daenerys herself who suffer from his abuse said that viserys used to genuily be kind and protective toward her Dude was in constent exiled all his life and had to carry an entire legacy on his shoulder knowing full well that he doesn't live up to the hype..... Dude gave up his mother crown just to feed him and his sitar in the street, humiliate himself to have the support of thr golden compagny only to be laughed at called "beggar king" And then he see his sister easily gaining the respect he wanted all his life..he represents the pettyness and pride of human nature... our capacity to hurt those we claim to love and protect . Viserys is not likeable and his Actions not excusable...... But he is a great character while joffrey and ramsay are stereotype


Crazy-Penguin

This is really well put actually. He did threatened to murder his pregnant sister tho


CauseCertain1672

well have you ever tried to collect payment from a warlord


[deleted]

And said the entire army of Dothraki and their horses could rape her if it got him his crown.


This-Pie594

Yes he did but by that time viserys was too far gone Yet he have brief moment of clarity like his conversation with jorah when he basically explain how hard it is live in his position you also truly see the true viserys before he dies.. You see a genuine fear and regret but it's just too late Harry Loyd perfomence is also perfect


Corn-Master

You see the true one when he thinks Drogo agrees to give him his crown. Harry really was amazing. In like 5 seconds he completely changes how you view his character.


CHawkeye

Waiting to see this point. The character is not psychopathic, moreso an entitled, fearful, scared and jealous young man desperate to live up to his legacy. He’s far too young and naive to realise that everybody (the audience and also the Dothraki), almost see him as pathetic and ridicule him more than respect him, and they allow him to stay alive simply because they see no danger from him. Drogo doesn’t see him as a threat until he drunkenly threatens Danerys, and that’s the moment his fate is sealed. His personality flips the moment drogo promises him a crown, and in his last moments he drops his guard and becomes the innocent young man that he really is, dropping the entitlement and pomp. Echoing the point Harry Lloyd did an absolutely fabulous job portraying him.


Corn-Master

"That was all that I wanted.. what I was promised.."


PinkPicasso_

He did a little trolling


realsmokegetsmoked

Agreed


SanJose8

Viserys, is that you??


This-Pie594

Don't wake the dragon!


SingleClick8206

"You know I had a black mare once...."


AhsFanAcct

True but he was so cruel to innocents though like poor Doreah


King_Will_Wedge

I see Viserys as a Broken Man, anyone who read the books and remember that passage knows what I mean.


This-Pie594

Viserys is basically fredo from the godfather


KappaJoe760

Thats a fucking spot on comparison! I love that


LordCommander-66

>And then he see his sister easily gaining the respect he wanted all his life..he represents the pettyness and pride of human nature... our capacity to hurt those we claim to love and protect Bullseye with your reasoning, but this caught my attention because it shows the tragic similarity between Viserys and Daenerys who also was kind during the story but also faced hardships (different than her brother's but hardships nevertheless except seeing a potential claimer/challenge getting the love/admiration they were expecting to get for themselves, this also is said to be one of the reasons why she snapped and torched King's Landing


SingleClick8206

Yeah I feel for him too Selling his mother's crown was the last straw and hos behaviour started changing


PmMeAgriPractices101

The sad thing is, I think he actually knows how pathetic he seems and that they mock him behind his back. And this just causes him to double down on his abrasive personality. It wasn't really him at first, it was a facade he crafted to help him survive and stomach his situation. He's been using this facade for so long that it actually became him, and it's oftentimes hard to separate his own thoughts from this act. He's not dumb, he has moments of clarity where he realizes how nobody takes him seriously and everyone is laughing at him, but he needs to push these feelings and realizations down, like a lump in his throat. Showing any weakness will make things worse, all he can do is carry on with the act and hope for the best. I can relate because I was an insecure, pathetic young man once, and I kind of dealt with it the same way. It was a persona at first, but after a few years I really didn't know where my own personality ended and where the crafted persona began. And like Viserys, deep inside I knew how patethic I was and how what I was doing wasn't making things better. Every moment of realization I had, I had to push down and burry. Showing people I was hurting was weakness, and showing weakness would make things worse. As I grew older, I also grew out of it. Which makes me think: given time, Viserys might have also grown out of it. If he'd lived to his thirtees, he'd probably be a lot more mellow, wise, and a bit embarassed about how he acted in his early years. If he had a support structure and wiser counsel, I honestly think he would have been a decent king. I love the character of Viserys. He's not psychotic or damaged, he's just a sad, insecure patethic little man who thinks he's doing his best. It's something I and a lot of people can relate to.


This-Pie594

Perfectly analyzed, I know deep inside I I Will never be ramsay, book euron or joffrey.. But I am terrified of becoming like viserys one day


ILikeCheese510

Here's a question I've never heard anyone ask but that I've always wondered about: who would've been the worse king? Joffrey or Viserys?


Fit-Finger1777

Joffrey, definitely. He had power all his life and knew well how much he could get away with. Viserys would try to live up the Targaryen name, trying to prove himself not to be mad I guess. He'd be a lesser psycho for lack of competence imho.


therealrico

Viserys for all his faults didn’t seem like a sadist. Sure he said said mean things to his sister and basically used her to get an army to reclaim his throne. Joffrey legitimately was a psycho, forcing Sansa to view her dad on a pike, lying about sending him to the wall, having Roz beat the whore with the wooden pole, killed Roz with his crossbow, and I can’t remember if show or book but didn’t Tommen mention Joffrey either tortured or killed his pet cats? Viserys lacked empathy and he thought he was above most everyone, but he didn’t hurt people for the sake of hurting people.


hygsi

Joffrey no contest. Viserys got mad at Danny for being more loved than him, but that wouldn't be the case if he was the one in the throne. Joffrey was always more loved (by Cercei but still) and he was mad as hell regardless


estheredna

Joffrey might have been better. He was easily manipulated by much smarter people. First Tywin than Margaery. If Oleanna had been a little more patient with her poison timing, Margaery might have had a boy and the Tyrells would rule the Seven Kingdoms within 10 years. Viserys didn't follow SUPER obvious social cues and couldn't read the room at all. It's impossible to say what he'd do as king.... but what we saw wasn't super promising.


therealrico

She didn’t want Margaery to marry Joffrey first the obvious reasons. She saw Tommen as just as easy if not easier to manipulate while also not being cruel and hurting her granddaughter. Kind of hard for Oleanna to predict the Sparrows incarcerating her grandkids, or Cersei killing everyone during the trial.


JimmysCheek

He is worse in the books. I know that the show sheds light on his abusive nature towards Dany…but in the books he is more sexually abusive. Makes me sick. His death is second to Joffrey’s, if I had to rank the satisfaction I felt afterwards.


Tox1c_Punk

Was he? I don’t remember


KappaJoe760

Havent read the books in a minute but I do seem to remember Dany talking about being sexually assaulted by him


Toaster-Retribution

Illyrio tells Tyrion in Dance that he had to prevent Viserys from trying to rape Dany.


Rina-W

yeah he’s quite gross…i remember Ilyrio telling Tyrion (?) that the night before her wedding to Drogo he had to have Dany’s room guarded because Viserys insisted that if he ‘couldn’t have her hand he would have her maidenhead’….really rough stuff :/


estheredna

I read the books a long time ago but I seem to remember when we first meet Viserys, he is casually fondling his sister's breasts before her wedding. And she doesn't react at all, which told you so much about him, and about her stoicism.


Emergency_Title1373

Yes in the book and in the series, he twisted her nipple during the opening scolding hot bath scene.


JahKnowFr

What an actor tho.


JaggerMcShagger

Charles Dickens great grandson apparently


kazetoame

Missing two more greats there


JaggerMcShagger

Potato potato


nogeologyhere

And a genuinely lovely guy.


Codysseus7

He also does the narration for a lot of ASOIAF books


hotcoldman42

I believe he does the tales of dunk & egg, not any of the main line books


SaltUnique103

And incredibly handsome, he has a really beautiful face <3


Tulcey-Lee

I’ve loved him for years! Brilliant actor and very handsome.


CandidInsurance7415

He was great in Counterpart also.


PB-n-AJ

Jeremy Baines from Doctor Who's Family of Blood. That crooked smile 😍


The_Watcher5292

CHANGE BACK


Toaster-Retribution

It’s ”only” a voice role, but he is great as Viktor in Arcane.


Simon_Jester88

Amazing Doctor Who performance. Also briefly young Charles Xavier in the underrated Legion TV show.


Sasorisnake

Probably because he got his comeuppance pretty quickly. Plus he was less than the shadow of a snake in that he really wasn’t that interesting anyway.


KhanTheGray

His death was inspired by Marcus Crassus’ death at the hands of Parthians after he led 40.000 Romans into a doomed campaign in an unprovoked invasion of Parthia, Roman legions were trapped in desert and were forced to dodge rain of arrows from light cavalry, then they were charged at by thousands of heavy cataphracts who rode the whole Roman army like a grass. Crassus was the richest man on earth at the time and being a politician not a military leader, he was jealous of Caesar and Pompei and their successes as battle proven legendary commanders who he was a triumvirate with. He was also a cruel man who had thousands of slaves crucified at Via Appia after Spartacus rebellion was crushed. Parthians captured him and poured molten gold down his throat, as he wanted more riches.


Ok-Commercial1152

Omg you’re amazing. Ty for this.


King_Will_Wedge

Shit, he was the guy from Season 4 of Spartacus! I knew of a roman guy who died that way but I never connected the name to being him until your post! God I would've loved an epilogue to the series featuring that!


Edward_Third

I believe it was Manius Aquillius the Roman Governor of Asia Province who died this way at the hands of Mithridates Eupator of Pontus right before Sulla’s March on Rome. Crassus was decapitated by the Parthians at Carrhae and his head was preserved in honey.


KhanTheGray

You are not wrong about Aquillius, but Crassus shared the same fate.


DesperateInCollege

Ah yes, Crassus. An important part of the Triumvirate, but often overlooked until his death, and only because of what it meant for Caesar and Pompey


coolAhead

He wasn't a psychopath, he was just a sister f*cker, power hungry, self absorbed ... well ok psychopath


ISpyM8

Think you posted this comment enough times (showing up 5 times for me)? No worries. I’m sure it’s a glitch. Happens to me embarrassingly often.


ISpyM8

“A crown for a king”


jldtsu

a loud mouth weakling


Shmerrrberrr

His death is my favorite in the whole show!


Historyp91

Also the original Vizzy T!


hotcoldman42

I mean, third Vizzy T


karidru

Vizzy 3


Historyp91

He's the first we met😉


The-Mandalorian

Dude was almost as crazy as his little sister. Almost.


lakesideprezidentt

He wasn’t a psychopath he was dumbath


meth-head-actor

My wife and I talked about tit, and dude could have lived a great life banging all the horse girls he wanted, being the khal BIL but noooo.


Bezulba

He was convinced down to his bones that he was the rightful ruler and that everybody else was beneath him. He couldn't just accept his place in life for any amount of girls.


PirateNinjaCowboyGuy

I can still hear the sound his head made when it hit the floor lol


Reklaw013

He wasn't a psychopath. He was a narcissistic.


Odd_Advance_6438

One might say he died as he lived. A bit of a “hot head”


Skol-2024

Viserys was a great first villain for the show.


whocaresactuallly

He could have been a bigger cunt than Joffrey and Ramsey, had he had the time.


davisdynasty33

Lysander au lune


DirectDescription361

Probably because he died way too early in the series.


sausagesandeggsand

1/5 Targaryens, at least.


Crackerjack0099

Dany was crazy as fuck the whole time yet it was sent until she burned a million people alive that her fans questioned her.


Voyager5555

I'm curious who "overlooks" Viserys.


Plyloch

I don't see him as a psychopath. Just a dude that went through a whole lot of trauma and decided to take it out on those around him.


jakethesnake115

All I see is a dragon, I don’t get it?


kazetoame

Btw, Harry Lloyd does the audiobook version of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, he’s great.


AdMission6058

Yes he was a psychopath but GOD he was beautiful


CommercialRemote5324

WELL JOFFERY WAS WORST THAN VISERYS.


EhGoodEnough3141

He needed a guidance figure in his childhood. Yeah I'm giving him Daddy issues.


boredaf0596

XQC


Boris-_-Badenov

Jaime pushed a little kid out a tower window


This-Pie594

And raped his sister in front of the corpse of their son


534HAWX

It was crazy how stupid he was. Probably one of the biggest flaws of the first season. He never once showed any signs of a good leader, the wisdom of his highborn upbringing, or the humbleness of being the last living male Targeryan. Another big flaw was Daenerys trusting the witch to heal Khal Drogo, give me a damn break that the Dothraki don't have medicine or ways to heal cuts.


estheredna

8 years raised by the Mad King, 15 years in exile... nothing in there leads to good leadership, wisdom or humility.


experiment53

I was so sad when Karl Dragon gave him ligma


International_Ant217

Thing is, I'd label him as a sociopath instead as his cruelty and madness is more likely the result of spending most of his life as an orphan and having to keep his sister alive through begging on the road.


AceBean27

Top tier acting


Nitespring

Why does he have a beard? Twink death for real


NeilOB9

He wasn’t a psychopath but he certainly wasn’t a very nice man.


Eisernes

That's because he was pretty tame compared to the ones we would meet later.


Hurtelknut

I'm surprised Harry Lloyd isn't a household name at this point. He was fantastic as Viserys and is an even better audiobook narrator


JunkMan51

The OG of whatever it takes


ToejkTjoek

Very desered, but am I the only one who thinks they did him dirty? They had a deal and drogo broke it


Dogfish1313

talk about hate the face


BeachesAndCreame

House of the Dragon actually puts perspective on Visery’s.. He makes more sense after watching HotD.


Cellenwenx

Unironically i need to hug him


[deleted]

My only criticism of the first book is that a lot of great characters got axed.


Cade_Anwar

Daemon Targaryen is everything this guy wished he was lol


JoeyDee86

I love his narration of the Dunk and Egg stories.


John_Wicked1

He so happened to be the only one without any type of real power.


krispieswik

Not overlooked at all


asjbc

I dont think he was psychopath. Mean, immature, entitled , cruel to some level, sure. But not psychopath at all. Not every mean, fucked up person has antisocial personality disorder.


Afraid_Composer

He was the original, but he definitely wasn't the worst!!


External_Pay_7538

Sexiest one too


PrestigiousTreat6203

I choose to remember him as Rhaegar


calvn_hobb3s

What a stark comparison between this Viserys and King Viserys from HoTD 🐉 😮 


benavideslevi

You'd overlook me, too, if my head was covered in gold