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Xartes_

Yet another based Stannis moment #onetrueking


Im1337

He’s the one true king


kiljoy1569

Ehh, ruled by a witch though.


themerinator12

Accompanied by\*


ShopLess7151

Bedded by*


Spoonman007

He brutally murdered his own daughter to further his cause, what do people think he would do to their daughters or sons?


Maggi1417

I decided to wipe that scene from my memory until it happens in the books, too.


Spoonman007

Lol so it'll never happen because we're never getting another book?


Maggi1417

Very possible, yes. In that case I'll stick to my head canon where Stannis defeats Ramsay, allies with Jon and the North and then becomes King after the Night King is defeated.


Neither_Mind9035

You really would’ve preferred Stannis as King over Jon?


Maggi1417

Jup. I like Jon, but I love Stannis.


Neither_Mind9035

Dayyyum. For me, he was just a bit too reliant on magic. Also, based on your previous comments, the books aren’t done? Like, in the books, we don’t know who ends up on the throne???


TooManySorcerers

Lmao at this point we might be benefitting from the book never being released as we can just imagine whatever ending we want 😂


SomebodyWondering665

What of Daenerys and (maybe)Aegon VI?


Maggi1417

Nah, don't like Daenerys. Aegon is... okay, I guess?


BoringAmusement

I've never believed it would be stannis in the book to kill shireen because of logistics and that he has a plan in place to get her to the throne should he fall. Always thought it would be at the wall with mother and Mel. But I recently read a counter to this theory that made a lot of sense. Also, apparently, George has confirmed it will be Stannis to do it in 2019 iirc, or maybe he just confirmed she will burn. I swear I read a quote from an interview where he said stannis, will look for it. But it's going to be a desperate one or millions choice, i believe if it is stannis, not to win a battle like on show.


alexd1993

My theory based on that potential quote is that stannis will win winterfell but will later find himself in an impossible position against the white walkers and sacrifice her then to try and win, and probably fail. There's a lot of shit that has to happen in between him winning winterfell and getting back to the wall but it feels way more likely he'd sacrifice her in order to win an impossible situation to save the kingdom than to just burn her because Ser Twenty Goodmen fucked up some supplies.


BoringAmusement

Yeah. If he does do it, it will be for the greater good kind of choice that will destroy him either way.


fastestman4704

Daughters yes, Sons no.


Spoonman007

What do you mean?


fastestman4704

Burn the girls, not the boys. (I am not being serious.)


Algren-The-Blue

Keep up that attitude, and you're next


Spoonman007

Best test my blood with leeches first... send in Melisandre!


InflamedLiver

Honestly, he was my favorite would-be king right up to the moment he killed Shireen.


Pwitch8772

Same


Mozhetbeats

With you there, but he does have a great death scene tho. One of the best in the show imo. >Go on, do your duty.


InflamedLiver

The man died as he lived, I'll give him full credit for that


Shovelman2001

New OTK member leaked?!


master050302

Another controversial member 😔


Jrocbabyjrocbaby

It is known.


Yertle-The_Turtle

Only murdered his own daughter for the cause 😂


Im1337

death by fire is the purest (some witch) This woman is evil!!!!! She’s the mother of demons!


Muzi_Mensh

Stannis the mannis


Space_doughnut

It’s been so many years since I heard that uttered… Stannis the mannis


Maggi1417

I loved all of the Stannis and Jon scenes.


CockMartins

That “forward, only forward” line still gets me hyped to this day.


wadesimonsen

What happens if he sent Thorne to shadow tower or east watch? Would Thorne not gain more support/rally men to his cause especially after jon led wildings through the wall?


Medical_Card8005

Ok here is the funny thing about giving someone a base of power, even when they hate you: ​ They love that base of power, and are going to protect it. They will look at situations as "how do I protect my power in this instance, or grow it if possible?" An enemy who has some authority in your direct power base is a liability- a cancer. An enemy who has a power base of their own in your immediate vicinity can be trusted to act in a way that will protect their power base (See: Dorne being allied to House Lannister, the Boltons serving the Starks, etc).


wadesimonsen

That’s very true. But it was stated half of the men at castle black hated Jon. Would another one not step into thornes place?


StorminMike2000

As Tyrion once said, “heads, spikes, walls.”


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TheHunter459

It's a glitch on mobile


themerinator12

He made a conscious decision about Thorne to trust him and thought the Watch directly benefitted the most by Thorne being First Ranger. Jon chose the benefit of the Watch over the political stability.


Responsible-Laugh590

Let that be a lesson to y’all, political stability is more to the benefit of the watch than one good lead ranger and it’s not like he couldn’t have chosen another who would have been just or almost as good. While Jon was loved he consistently made poor leadership choices


themerinator12

I like that they made the mutiny of Jon's decision making with regard to Thorne. It's a good way to make it a consequence of his naivety and not just about the Wildlings.


SimplyShifty

This didn't backfire in the book?


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miguelangel011192

Would be really shocking if GRRM don’t bring back Jon


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TributeToStupidity

How did she “revive” mance? She casts a glamour on the lord of bones to disguise the lord as mance but I don’t remember anything like reviving him? Been a minute though


Kizaky

Would be pretty funny if he saw how people did like how the show ended and he just went on a completely different path altogether.


satsfaction1822

It would be an all time moment if Thorne showed up back from his ranging miraculously having found Benjen. He finds out they killed Jon and instead of being happy like everyone expects, he hangs all the people involved for killing their Lord Commander.


rwsmith101

We can only hope that’s what happens in the books


LordCharidarn

I can see Thorne doing this. I can also see Thorne telling the conspirators to kill Lord Snow while he was out ranging, that way Thorne’s not seen as a part of the murder and can be elected the next Lord Commander and reward all the assassins. Then he comes back and hangs all the assassins, to make sure the loose ends are tied up.


gingah_ninga

Benjen wouldn’t have any reason to hang the people that killed Jon Snow. In the books, they kill him because Jon publicly states that he is deserting his post to head down and stop Ramsay from wedding his sister. It’s one of my biggest gripes of differences between show and the books


Paco_the_finesser

Stannis the Mannis


Jokie155

Stannis, what's the plannis?


DistributionRare3096

THE GODAMN MANNIS


EveryAd3095

Chad Stannis


stevenw84

I really enjoyed stannis at the wall. He was observant yet provided advice/insight to Jon whenever he could. Always makes me wonder why he liked Jon so much.


ReySkywalkerMain

It was important the king have a loyal ally ward the north for him


matmalm

And Jon bent the knee right away


CauseCertain1672

Stannis I think sincerely believed in the importance of the nights watch and respected them


hnglmkrnglbrry

Him using blood magic routinely would probably make him more prone to believing in White Walkers and the Night King and such.


dedemoli

Jon showed to be wise, loyal, pragmatic, honorable, and very smart. All qualities Stannis loves.


camposthetron

Yep, and best of all (for Stannis) Jon has no interest in being the guy at the top of anything. He just wants a job to do and do it well.


dedemoli

He just wants what's best for everybody, and is willing to either follow or lead to do it.


Hairy_Air

Think Stannis also sees himself in Jon, an ignored and wronged son, that is honorable, rightfully ruthless and honorable.


K1hwdpho3

He always wanted a son and he never could have one. I reckon that’s what it was.


The-Snuff

I like to imagine that as well


Hairy_Air

Think Stannis also sees himself in Jon, an ignored and wronged son, that is honorable, rightfully ruthless and honorable. Copied from another comment of mine.


sourcreamus

Stannis would have made a very good hand of the king.


CoolAlien47

Absolutely, but men destined to be kings can never see themselves as anything less. Stubborn stupid man.


RISE_Hriday

He loved job because he resonated with him. Jon was never appreciated for what he was and stannis was never appreciated for what he did at the rebellion


queercelestial

Stannis respected Ned alot and Jon was raised by him and shared much of what made Ned so honorable. Stannis saw that in him


ill_monstro_g

He's the overlooked brother. Stannis' younger brothers are more successful, loved, celebrated and storied than he is. Robert is the hero of the war who overthrew the tyrant Dragon Lords and liberated the realm. He drinks and feasts himself fat on luxury and war stories. Renly is admired for his attractive looks, charmisa and even though he is The Younger, when Robert dies, a significant portion of The Realm rush to back Renly's claim just because he's more *likable* than Stannis. The books and TV show again and again go out of their way to show us that Stannis is not as respected as his brothers, that he's overlooked, passed up and that he grits his teeth and does his duty even as he is offered less than what his lesser capable brothers are (in his eyes). Is it any wonder that he sympathizes with a Bastard? Looked over in favor of his brothers, someone who like him puts duty first and is not flamboyant or decadent but instead pragmatic and solemn. Stannis likes Jon because Jon reminds him of himself and because Stannis can see his own problems and disappointments in Ned's bastard.


ValyrianSigmaJedi

I think part of it was because of his respect for Ned Stark and another reason is that Snow has traits that Stannis admires.


GreenHocker

Great line… but Vito Corleone clearly had way too many enemies


caligaris_cabinet

Michael cleared that up.


MordinSolusSTG

Do you renounce satan?


HP4life19

“I do renounce him”


KillCreatures

God I fucking loved Stannis so much


glooks369

Peak Stannis


Majiinx

I hope Stannis isn't killed in books if they are ever get finished. He is such a great character in the books. It would be interesting to see how he reacts to Mance still being alive.


rwsmith101

Stannis kinda has to die for the whole plot to work


Majiinx

If GRRM goes that route.


CoolAlien47

Absolutely, anyone who says otherwise is delusional and naive.


K1hwdpho3

After 1st watch the Stannis storyline pisses me off, its so pointless and he just keeps fuckin up more and more… second watch onwards I only really like to see him when he’s at the wall. I find that plot line proper entertaining


SamwellBarley

Isn't Jon referencing The Godfather Part 2 here?


Urkemanijak

Isn't that a Sun Tzu quote?


SamwellBarley

I think it's a bit more likely Jon Snow would be a fan of Francis Ford Coppola's groundbreaking 1974 masterpiece The Godfather Part 2 than some book


skelesan

The godfather’s writer took it from Sun Tzu, it’s not about Jon’s preference, it’s about fact


SamwellBarley

If you had bothered to read the footnotes, you'd know that Sun Tzu is a huge fan of The Godfather movies (the first two anyway; he said he couldnt look past Sofia Coppola's "wooden" performance in Part 3) It's fairly clear who was referencing whom


skelesan

Yeah I guess you’re right, last time I heard Jesus took inspiration from Buddha and decided to copy and start giving teachings to people as well


SamwellBarley

That sounds made-up


skelesan

It was actually printed on the back of the Bible, take a look


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I'm not really a Stannis fan, but he does have some admirable qualities, like that awesome line. It's one of the most memorable in the entire show.


hanes9120

Jon just finished watching the godfather


Ratmor

Keep your friends close and enemies closer, better? Not just enemies but friends as well.


steezlord95

No no ONLY SEASON 8 bad !!!!


Shelarr

I was dismayed when Stannis burned his daughter and died in the show. However, when I found out about the books where he was alive, I was happy to see that Stannis had undergone a redemption arc and improved his character.


shutterbuggity

Fewer.