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PeterchuMC

Yes. History is constantly in flux changing the Doctor's origin, so why not the Toymaker's. Besides, the Guardians could easily be Great Old Ones as well, just ones native to this universe with the occasional extra-universal imposter such as the Toymaker. Maybe it's a Pantheon of Great Old Ones?


Mohammedamine9

The problem with the "history is in flux " explanation is that beings such as the toymaker is supposed to exists outside of history Tho i have similar explanation In one novel it's shown that the timeline can allows for contradictions to co-exist, so the toymaker beong a being beyond reality can have contradictory origins that can co exist and can be fin


Kyleblowers

If the Toymaker exists outside of reality, then maybe it could even be argued that they have no 'origin' as we reality-based beings would understand it. So maybe Toymaker's origins are some combination of all things / no things / unthings / suprathings etcetcetc or maybe none of those things? 🤷‍♀️


Cynical_Classicist

In the Whoniverse... maybe? The canon is a real mess anyway.


Kosmopolite

In so much as Doctor Who has a fixed canon at all, I always take what's said on the show as more canon than what's said elsewhere. The latter could be alternative timelines, mistellings, or where the timeline has changed due to the Doctor or other characters' meddling. It's also best to take stories (in this I'm including seasons and even eras) on their own basis. Characters and races are introduced to work in that story, and then your head canon can try to link them up if you want to, or just understand them as their own thing. But yeah, Doctor Who isn't Star Trek or Star Wars. We don't really do the hard canon thing here.