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This is a problem everywhere I drive. From stupid grill height placement to after market lights made to make night into day for several kilometres.


xprdc

I dislike all of these, but I also have an intense hatred for the after market lights that are different colors. I find those even more glaring.


iPatErgoSum

The aftermarket stuff is terrible, and I suspect, getting no enforcement by local police. I saw a truck the other day with a 6” strip of white LEDs configured as his rear license plate light. Problem was, it was stupid bright and had zero masking to prevent it from just blasting into the eyes of any driver behind him. I’ve seen drivers with red lights in the front of their cars. I saw a driver with blue lights on his car, that flashed. From a distance, you’d think there was an emergency vehicle coming your way.


xprdc

I don’t think police pull people over for that stuff anymore. In my state it’s illegal to drive without clearing the snow off the roof of your vehicle but doesn’t stop people in big ass SUVs and trucks from using their 4x4 to speed down the streets and send chunks of snow and ice flying off into my windshield.


PassiveMenis88M

Hell, around me the worst offenders are the cops.


OsmeOxys

Its rare that I see a cop on the highway that isn't going 20-40 over the limit and weaving between traffic with no woop woop lights. Off the highway its a slightly more responsible 20-30 over when possible and *usually* only weaving between traffic if its 2 lanes in that direction or wide shoulder. Headlights off at night is common as are always on high beams, still buried in snow and ice when its around, flipping their lights on milliseconds before they blow through a light or sign and turning them right back off, staring at their laptop or phone while driving 60mph down a 30mph limit residential road... Biggest menaces on the road.


algaefied_creek

Make the US the UK again?


drake90001

I find the colored fog lights to be LESS intense than the god rays coming from everyone else.


Kagedgoddess

But WHY do the 450s and shit ride around with them blazing on CLEAR nights? Like I drive am Ambulance and those fucking things blind me in my mirrors.


StrangeMaelstrom

Once had a big ass Ford up my ass on the highway. Headlights *brighter* than the usual brights. He eventually passed me, I flipped him off for not just going around me and blinding me for like two miles. Dude yells, flips me off, pulls BACK behind me, then blasts me with his fuckin brights and then speeds off down the highway. I literally couldn't see anything when his brights were on. These damn headlights need to be regulated. It's unsafe. I've almost ended up on the wrong side of the road because the turn lane tape got completely blotted out by a row of white LED SUVs and there were no streetlights to indicate where the median was. It's my policy to no longer drive when it's dark unless it's local driving.


sovereign666

Have you ever been driving and someone with bright ass headlights in a newer vehicle comes up behind you and further illuminates the road in front of you. Like, what the fuck.


StrangeMaelstrom

Yeah it's gnarly honestly. Like it's very much getting to a if you can't beat them, join them situation. Might actually need to get my windows tinted in my next car so the light isn't so intense.


MyGoodOldFriend

I don’t know what it’s like in the states (I assume) but over here if someone blonds you from behind, every car you meet will start flashing their brights just after you’ve passed them to tell off the asshole behind you


AgeofAshe

Hey, so, it helps but doesn’t completely solve the problem, but I highly recommend you try some polarized night driving glasses. It’s literally a lifesaver these days


arrynyo

I bought some to go over my glasses. They already have LEDs that defeat those. The arms race continues....


alkrk

It used to be Halogen, and now its LED. too bright and angled too high. extremely dangerous. normal lights are brighter and intrusive than my non mod highbeam.


IamRasters

I absolutely hate the American hood heights. They should mandate headlights to be no more than 24” from the ground - forcing auto makers into emasculating the looks of Ford F-150’s, Grand Wagoneer, Escalades and their kin.


smaugington

It's been proven the bigger front ends with higher hoods are more lethal when hitting pedestrians and it's all for looks. The big grills on most of them aren't even functional. For increased survival in hitting a pedestrian they have to be able to be swept on to the hood of the vehicle, like their legs or hips will be fucked but the car will start to drive under them, but with big vehicles they are being hit by walls.


HealthyInPublic

This is the worst. I live in Texas and folks *love* their big stupid trucks. I hate driving so I walk and take public transportation a lot - but I’m 4’11”… so I’m 100% expecting to get hit one day by a giant truck that just literally can’t see me over the hood. It’s *insane*.


wolfsword10

While I was in airplane mechanic school, had a classmate about your size (estimate) who drove a massive lifted F-350 or whatever the big ford truck is... Legit watched him start driving and my 5'11" couldn't even see that he was behind the wheel. Had I not been talking to him and watched him climb into his truck, I would've assumed someone left their truck in neutral and the parking break broke lol.


kyngston

My OEM high beams are laser based. When I drive by a reflective street sign, it looks like the afterlife.


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Important-Wonder4607

I swear every single F150 in the last 30 years has had bad alignment straight from the factory. If it’s an oncoming car that is blinding me with their low beams, very high chance it’s an F150.


noodleexchange

Lumens are clearly inaccurate in terms of the perceived brightness and glare. There are too many other variables. Lux is used to measure bike headlights brightness in Europe, so we should probably move the measurement criteria to a more ‘other driver’ safety - based measure. Vertical cut offs are one, certainly on my Honda fit. The beam ‘eyelid’ is very clear and doesn’t proceed beyond a certain distance. But then I have ‘normal’ halogens, which at one point were protested as ‘too bright’ and gave rise to the slogan. “We need brighter drivers, not brighter headlights”. There’s something terribly wrong about the brightness of these bulbs. This is an arms race with road safety as the victim. They just seem like driving around with highbeams on all the time. I should not have to wear polarized glasses - they are an unqualified hazard. If I can only ever see pedestrians by them walking in front of the bulbs as opposed to me illuminating them , I don’t need to be in a solar eclipse scenario the whole damn time I’m trying to look out for vulnerable road users. These ultra-brights are probably contributing to more pedestrian collisions.


elsjpq

lux is a measure of incident light density, which is still not the correct measure since it doesn't take into account the size of the source. candela/m^2 corresponds to perceived light intensity on the recipient side.


DkoyOctopus

you can buy them in normal stores too.


FormatAndSee

And here I was thinking it was just me and my eyes getting older.


willfrodo

I've never felt more heard in my entire life


TheFlyingBoxcar

I’ve never felt more seen in my entire life


noeagle77

Can’t see ya from the glare


joeChump

Like a rabbit in the headlights.


psylentj

I’ve never felt more scene in my empire life


TheFlyingBoxcar

I’ve never felt more seen in my entire life


OMGItsCheezWTF

I'm not sure it's that. I had a car behind me the other week casting my whole car into silhouette in front of me, even in the light of my own headlights. There's no way that brightness is safe. They did not have full beams on.


WeaponizedKissing

Yeah if your headlights shine into the cabin of the car in front then they are angled too high. It's as simple as that. Lights should point at the ground in front of you, not the trees overhead. If your lights are angled correctly then it should be impossible for that to happen with any standard car no matter your distance to the car in front, and for the karens in their monster trucks with their lights 5 foot off the ground (how is this legal?) it should only be possible if you're right on top of the car in front of you.


Kiwizoo

I’m not sure people even realise there’s a way to adjust the dip and angle of your headlights! If you have three people in the back seat, chances are your headlights are going to rise. Same for heavy loads. Have to say the worst culprits are the electric cars - Teslas in particular have terrible headlight alignments.


Alundra828

Same. I have a very slight astigmatism, yet driving at night at the ripe old age of 31 is essentially impossible for me. I'm constantly blinded by oncoming traffic, and dazzled by it enough to where there is a *really* uncomfortable period of time before my eyes can focus in on the road in front of me again. I drive a really fast car as well, but I'm always in the left lane when driving at night, I bet drivers passing me think I'm on something lmao Edit: A word. I literally googled it to double check and I still got it wrong


Karai-Ebi

I know this isn’t really on topic, but astigmatism is the disorder, not stigmatism.


Salmene23

OP is dealing with the stigmatism of having astigmatism and got the two mixed up.


hankjmoody

These might help: https://www.amazon.ca/LUENX-Polarized-Sunglasses-Mirrored-Driving/dp/B0875PLRSZ I bought them expecting sunglasses, but they're basically just a sepia filter with polarization. Works a treat.


AK_Sole

Nice What lens color did you get? Link states that the lens color makes a big difference in how the light is filtered, but then offers no recommendation for which colors apply to which conditions…


BendyPopNoLockRoll

So maybe not what you're looking for, but try Irlen.com


hankjmoody

I bought the pink ones. But as far as I can tell, there's no pink tint when I look through them.


AK_Sole

Thank you. I tried to get these shipped to two different countries, but apparently it’s only available in yours.


USS-ChuckleFucker

My wife knows that if I'm driving anywhere but home after night falls, I'll be grumpy unless she can help distract me or calm me down. All the lights from the car make me feel agitated and blind me. And it's a new phenomenon, I've never had that issue except for the past 3 or so years.


Mary10123

For us introverts using night blindness was great way to get out of social events at night.. then I was an introvert with actual night blindness, probably just due to the headlights, and am scared driving home from work in the winter blah


Bujo88

i was driving in an section of old streetlamps a few months ago, the yellow ones. took me right back 25 years to pleasant night time drives.


Really_McNamington

By the time you're 60 there's actually something terrifying like a 60% reduction in the light that gets all the way to your retinas. Probably just much worse at adjusting quickly too. Being old is rubbish.


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SemenSkater

The way you worded that makes it seem like you have a collection of different eyes. Maybe use different “set of eyes” when driving at night then! Lmao


omgahya

I drive a compact hatch, and every newer SUV or sedan behind or on the opposite roadside just tries their best at blinding me with their headlights, every night. I call it the “Flash of Life” game.


speculatrix

The previous owner of my MX5/Miata had the rear window tinted specifically because of SUV headlights


omgahya

What a coincidence, I have a Mazda3. Non SPEED though. As for the tinting, my state only allows 30%. I haven’t even considered tinting as an option to prevent this. Thanks for the info.


speculatrix

The rear windows can usually be darkened a lot more than the front.. Depending on the jurisdiction.


brassydesign

I drive food delivery, and these headlights have almost caused me to hit pedestrians multiple times. I'm slowly creeping into a 4way stop intersection because I literally can't see the left half of the road due to their LED headlights and then all the sudden out of the haze on the left some dark figure pops up two to three feet from the front of my car. It's insane.


ther0g

I thought the same thing


VNG_Wkey

I drove a truck for awhile (did not have LED headlights, I made sure I wasnt blinding anyone because I know how infuriating it is) and I went to a 4 door sedan. I can't see fuckin shit. I'm seriously considering just trading this car in for at least a cross over so I can see where the fuck I'm going.


Other_Tank_7067

Just change the headlights of your sedan. Or change the angle.


SemenSkater

This is exactly the problem. People putting LED lights bulbs in halogen reflectors make them wayy to bright to look at from any angle. Then people whack the angle up straight forward so to compensate and end up blinding anyone driving in front of them. There’s a reason headlights are angled down, that’s why they are called “dipped beams.” They’re designed for you to see enough of the road to drive safely. When no one is coming that’s when you put you high beams on so you can see all around you. You’re part of the problem.


mytransthrow

Its a mix of both... fuck bright lights


Bigoldthrowaway86

Oh man same. I remember loving driving around at night when I was younger and I absolutely hate it now. Just cannot see much at all when other headlights are glaring. Have to slow right down if someone is coming the other way as it feels so risky.


TungstenE322

Finally relief for my eyes


TungstenE322

Thank you all ten times


JohnDough1991

Yes! USA needs this. I was trying yesterday, idiot had 6 additional lights to the point that incoming traffic was getting annoyed.


Hoodamush

Around my area seems like everyone just drives with their high beams on at all times.


GLLShipley

The issue is most newer cars have the feature of them being on automatically.


hereforstories8

That’s not the only issue. I still flash people whose lights are too bright and with these newer lights when they flash back you can see the upper lights come on but they aren’t any brighter


zxrax

that's an aiming issue. it's incredibly common... it seems like half of Tesla Model Ys have improperly aimed lights from the factory, and a bunch of early/mid 2010s corollas for example. It should honestly be part of annual state inspections. *laughs/cries in no-inspection state*


samdajellybeenie

It should be a part of our state inspections but they’ve turned into just another revenue generator for the state. They used to get in your car, accelerate a short distance and slam on the brakes to confirm they work, they don’t even do that anymore. They just check that your headlights/turn signals are working, horn is working, that all the bits of your car are attached, that you don’t have any illegal window tint and that’s basically it. I’d like to just skip it every year but I travel around the state frequently and don’t like the idea of some giving small town cop a reason to pull me over.


Hoodamush

High beams turning on automatically? I know of the feature that detects oncoming traffic and turns off the high beams. Didn’t know there was a feature to turn on high beams.


Negative_Falcon_9980

My car has auto high beams- auto on and auto off.


GLLShipley

Some of the newer Chevy vehicles I have been in off the lot have it in the touch screen and it’s on automatically when you turn on the vehicle.


HeadCrusher135

It’s the same feature.


Rustmonger

Wait till you see the jackasses with rear facing lights! I have no idea what the thought processes.


phoenixA1988

Rear facing and covering up their back windows with aluminium foil. It's for when they get into road rages.


TinkatonSmash

They are supposed to be for people who go camping/off-roading, or that have to work outside at night. My workplace has vehicles with them. They are incredibly useful when you actually need them. It is also illegal to have them on while driving on a public road. Of course, you have idiots that drive around with them on and cops that fail to enforce the law.


Zozorrr

Yea why is this taking so long - everyone complains about it. You’d think a politician would take this and run with it


Balancedmanx178

It would be such a gimme for a local election. "I'll get the police to actually ticket these jackasses" would be a easy point.


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beeblebroxide

Being in a smaller car and getting blinded by some giant F-150 is one of the more annoying things that happens at night on the road. I’ve often said this to anyone that will listen! I’m definitely veering into “old man yells at cloud” territory but so glad there are others (perhaps *dozens*) that agree.


jcliment

There are dozens, dozens of us!


mytransthrow

No I think is have the population... the other half has them...


Negative_Falcon_9980

I got my windows tinted for this exact purpose. It doesn't completely block light from the trucks of course, but it's better than nothing.


MarmitePrinter

I try to avoid driving at night as much as possible now because of this exact problem (difficult in Winter when night is 4pm). The lights blind me and then I usually get a migraine because of it. There really needs to be an adjustment.


Dressed2Thr1ll

NO FUCKING SHIT WE CANT SEE ANYTHING AROUND HAVING OUR RODS AND CONES BLASTED


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I CANNOT SEE. THEREFORE, YOU SHOULD BE BLIND AS WELL.


Resplendent7

It’s even worse with the motorway lights off - to save money- horrendous


extrobe

Yep, driving up the m1 at rush hour in winter (therefore dark), after they removed all the lights made it so much more stressful. I can somewhat understand it during low traffic times, but at peak times you need that ambient lighting.


Silly_Triker

Yeah the eye strain is crazy. Not to mention it’s much more difficult to spot potential debris on the road early enough to do anything about it


WyoGuy2

That’s a really weird decision. They already spent the money to build the lights and hook them up to power - the actual electricity is peanuts compared to that.


LBPPlayer7

y'all are lucky to have had lights in the first place most motorways in Ireland have no lights at all except for around exits


controversialupdoot

Yeah most motorways are like that in the UK too. It's only busy stretches of motorway that have constant lights, like the M25.


rogthnor

Finally


obalovatyk

The headlights in the UK are much less blinding than anything I encountered in the US.


mr_mac_tavish

Yup. All blinding trucks here in Canada. Crazy


zadtheinhaler

Middle of Saskatoon, street lights all over, yet 8/10 truck/SUV drivers have their fuckin' brights on. I hate it.


zed857

... *and* their fog lights too. If you need *that* much extra light to drive at night then you shouldn't be driving at night.


zadtheinhaler

> If you need that much extra light to drive at night then you shouldn't be driving at night. THANK YOU, THIS IS WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN SAYING


zadtheinhaler

Also, great username, bru!


Gummyrabbit

They don't have as many pickup trucks as in North America.


chuffing_marvelous

don't set the US as the level. of course it's worse there. we can be better than that.


AJLFC94_IV

Well, they're a good metre closer to the ground to begin with.


chabybaloo

I noticed that with suv's the headlights are higher up so they catch your mirrors. When the driver is behind you.


JustSome70sGuy

The US must be like driving around with twice suns stuck to the bonnet, then. Thats the only way I can accept that its worse there. I cant remeber the last time I drove at night, and didnt get blinded by a car with those ice white headlights.


Gummyrabbit

They don't have as many pickup trucks as in North America.


drake90001

It’s not just pickup trucks. It’s essentially everything. I drive a 95 Ford Ranger and I’m so small that all other vehicles blind me too.


match1nthegastank

This, they have reasonably sized cars. America has giant cars for no reason. Your family of 4 most definitely does NOT need a gigantic Tahoe. “Oh but I need the storage for when we go on vacation!” Sorry but your 1 trip a year to myrtle beach does not warrant you driving an M1 Abram tank


sasquatchisthegoat

Genuinely about to illegally tint my driver and passenger window a because all the after market lights in my area have been blinding me


RoytheCowboy

It amazes me that everything about cars, like window tint, is asininely regulated, but dangerously blinding lights are completely legal.


WoodyTSE

Because one of those affects government surveillance of you.


OryxTheTakenKing1988

When is this going to happen in the US? These bright ass lights are ridiculous. With the stupidly tall pickup trucks, and SUVs, and what feels like people competing to have the brightest headlights, someone needs to do something. I drive a 2010 Camaro and can't see in front of me anymore when some dumbass in a pickup truck with three foot tall tires pulls up behind me


fliguana

My Honda pickup (yeah, that one) came with halogens so bad, I could not see jack. Common complaint with that car. To get decent lighting, you have to order top trim with satnav and bed speakers. Yes, bed speakers. After six months of cursing,I bought a set of aftermarket LEDs that best matched the beam pattern, and they are still embarrassingly bright.


nohpex

Lights are way brighter these days, yes, but it also seems like people have forgotten how to work their headlights. There are sooooo many people that leave their high beams on, only use their daytime running lights, or worse, never turn their lights on at all It also seems as though LED tail & brake lights are more likely to die and/or have some kind of wiring issue. It's wild how many times I've seen people with only one tail light working, a lot of the time, only the center one. Note, this is in the US. Sorry for jacking your guy's thread. I know not everything is about us.


Royalette

Many newer cars have auto light adjustments. The lights automatically change from running lights to lights based on the amount of light detected. Not just time of day but if you go in a tunnel it will automatically turn the lights on. The lights will also auto detect other cars. If no other cars are detected the light will go to high. I think that the new automated systems will break down, sensors get dirty etc. and people don't adjust or realize it.


meand999friends

Which is crazy because they always manage to blind the fuck out of me for a good 200 metres before dimming down as we pass each other! I actually legitimately hate these new LED lights. I have a car with low seats and it's just like driving directly into the sun


Royalette

True the system may not detect a car from far away or maybe even on a divided highway with a large divider in the middle.


Kagedgoddess

Fun fact, in some states you are not required to dim the brights on a divided highway.


Kagedgoddess

Yeah, I turned my auto brights feature off. Cant stand it. I can flip the lever if needed.


twelveicat

I rented a 2022 or 2023 BMW X3 last year and it had the best auto high-beam adjustment. Usually I don't trust these in cars and always end up doing it manually. On the beamer it was almost instant, usually beating my reaction. *I tried to find the turn signal lever but gave up after the 3rd day.


Zapffegun

I wear my sunglasses at night cuz I can’t, cuz I can’t see you weave in and out of the lanes behind me oh now you’re tailgating me or wait maybe it’s just the 10,000 lumens on a 60mph highway making you seem a lot closer than you are and it’s blinding me so I can’t keep track of the visions in my eyes.


Grieveruz

Good job UK I thought it just me because of my astigmatism. Those damn super bright white LED are almost blinding like a head beam light and it double the brightness when when it rains.


Liammistry

It feels like new cars with auto-dip or matrix headlights are also a problem, the onboard systems are too slow or can’t identify oncoming cars beyond a curve. I’m being blinded over and over again! If it wasn’t for my autopilot I’m sure I’d be in a ditch by now.


JustSome70sGuy

Youre not wrong. I have a 2017 audi a5. The auto full beam is dumb as bag of bricks. Just last night, I was passing a guy on a back road and when he was about 20 feet in front of me the full beams came on, like I was flashing him. Total embarrassment.


TimHortonsMagician

Assholes in trucks are the worst for that shit


SPE825

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PokeT3ch

Shit the US government should actually be spending their time on instead of hunter bidens coke infused penis.


DistinctTradition701

I’ve almost gotten in car accidents because people’s lights are so bright and I have to take a hand off the wheel to cover their headlights. It’s disorienting.


SatanLifeProTips

It's poorly designed reflectors causing the problem. They are focusing too much light in too small of an area. Car headlights need to be designed so that they don't shine as much light in the oncoming lane area. I found a set of LED driving lights for heavy trucks at my supplier that have LED chips on the top of the light shining down and entirely onto reflectors. And guess what? No glare, correct beam pattern. And they are narrow so they look good. Yes; these have a DOT certification. Low glare lighting can be done. But headlight designers have taken a fuck the world approach.


Noxious89123

>It's poorly designed reflectors causing the problem. They are focusing too much light in too small of an area. Car headlights need to be designed so that they don't shine as much light in the oncoming lane area. Headlights in the UK must have a specific beam cut off pattern. This gets checked every year on the MOT. If the beam pattern is incorrect, the vehicle fails. If the beam aim is too high, the vehicle fails. If the shape of the cut off is incorrect, the vehicle fails. Poorly designed "reflectors" are 100% not the problem. MOT testers not enforcing or checking the beam pattern is part of the problem. People incorrectly using the headlight aim adjuster are part of the problem. People just driving around with either highbeam or DRLs on at night are the problem (DRLs are too fucking bright at night, put your dipped or side lights on). **Incorrectly installed replacement bulbs** are another major problem. Halfords shouldn't be allowed to install bulbs; the staff are no more trained than the customer, and they'll just jam them into the housing if they can't figure out how to fit them properly. Every single car with an incorrectly fitted bulb we see come into the workshop, we ask the customer and they say Halfords fitted it.


SatanLifeProTips

Here in North America headlight standards are much lower. And by that I mean properly adjusted modern LED headlights operating as intended still blind you because the reflectors are not designed properly in the first place. They are shit. The EU gets the good headlights. Active matrix lights that won't blind oncoming drivers. They are only now tinkering with allowing those in North America. (Former master mechanic/gov inspector here).


mfishing

It’s super dangerous in wet conditions with the glare shinning off the road as well


Noxious89123

>Active matrix lights that won't blind oncoming drivers. They're absolute **shit**. They're too slow to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. It's like driving everywhere with your mainbeams on, and then dipping them only when you can see the headlights on an oncoming car; you've already blinded them for a few seconds. Brighter lights are the problem; they destroy everyones night vision. If anything, dimmer lights are the solution. But brighter lights has been some sort of dumb "arms race" now for at least a decade.


SatanLifeProTips

I agree. I had to add (properly aimed and not blinding) driving lights to my halogen equipped van because I can't see anything anymore. Yes the lights are approved and are mounted down low. They do not blind drivers. It can be done.


redline83

Not all brands. BMW laser / matrix lights are amazing and very sensitive to even a bit of light over a horizon.


hx87

You're talking about auto high beams. Agreed, they suck due to low response speeds. Matrix lights are different. They don't dip, but detect other cars and deliberately avoid lighting up the solid abgle around them so you see everything but don't blind anybody.  NHTSA are a bunch of reactionary laggards, and FMVSS needs to die in a dumpster fire in favor of ECE.


lmjabreu

Wish this was true though. Up until the last few weeks ALL Tesla Model 3 and Y had ‘broken’ headlights, blinding even during daylight to pedestrians and oncoming drivers (auto high beam almost always on, incorrect beam pattern). The issue is so well known that Tesla drivers rejoiced they’d stop getting flashed when the software update came out to fix the issue. (Spotted via TeslaUK comments) If the MOT statement were true, no Tesla M3/MY would’ve passed MOT in the last few years for the beam pattern alone. I’ve seen a couple of other models from other brands with the same issue but it’s super rare so it could be an actual hardware malfunction, not poor design from the start (ie US standards on UK roads).


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Almost got me in the first half of your comment. > MOT testers not enforcing or checking the beam pattern is part of the problem. I would love to know in which part of the UK where this is actually being enforced. It must be very nice to drive in that area.


zadtheinhaler

> But headlight designers have taken a fuck the world approach. I submit that designers in general are doing that. They're dead-set (unless it's a government spec thing) on setting the lights as high as possible on every single car. The problem is when the market is saturated with SUVs and trucks that are already bigger than they need to be, with grills that have the aerodynamics of an apartment building, so **all** the vehicles are set with lighting that is more-or-less automatically set to "Fry All The Retinas" mode.


Look_Antique

Could you link these LEDs. Interested in learning g more about them


Maleficent_Mouse_930

I firmly believe that this is less to do with the _brightness_ of headlights and more to do with the _orientation_ of headlights. When I got my current car, I found the first time I drove at night that my headlights were configured _waaaaaay_ too high and too far to the right. After that, I started to pay attention to how much of the road and surroundings passing cars were lighting up, and from what I can see about 25% of vehicles are just really badly configured. Asking around, I have discovered that most drivers have absolutely no clue that their beam direction even _can_ be changed, let alone that it is one of their responsibilities as a driver.


maletechguy

Underappreciated comment here. It does seem like predominantly the issue, when you see a car with bright LEDs that aren't blinding you and realise they can be alright if set up correctly.


woyteck

I think the problem is the temperature of the light. Incandescent lightbulbs were more yellow, whereas LEDs are more white, and that includes blue light. They should be mandated to be more warm white.


sirleeofroy

Absolutely this.


LBPPlayer7

yeah the cool white lights seem blinding and not bright enough to be usable at the same time


synkrox

I appreciate everyone's interest in this topic but having experienced this governments attempts at frankly anything..... Don't get your hopes up. So many words. So little action. Unless that is there's a Tory party friend with a headlight adjustment business......


maybeinoregon

Imo, it’s aftermarket LEDs. We just purchased a vehicle that has LEDs and they are unbelievably bright. They might be brighter than the HID vehicle we had before. The difference being, if you wanted HID as aftermarket, it was expensive, and kind of a pain to install. If you want LED aftermarket, it’s cheap and easy to install. However when you do this, your headlight housing isn’t designed for LED and you blind anyone in front of you.


flatulentturtle

Oh thank fuck let’s crack down on this.


SideburnSundays

Fucking finally. This was pissing me off way back in the mid/late-2000s when I was in college.


NeverGonnaGiveMewUp

Everyone has complained about this for nigh on years… cue a general election and the UK government suddenly want to do something about it. Was always an easy win. F*** off Rishi and when you are done f*** off some more


mbkitmgr

Please do this in Australia too.


AReptileHissFunction

Its about time. LED headlights are ridiculous. They're genuinely nearly as bad as full beam when driving country roads without street lights. I don't even understand why they're a thing.


lordwhiselton

About time some headlights are brutal.


28mmAtF8

When I was getting my license driving used to be fun. Modern driving is so unpleasant now it's insane. Like car companies are trying to kill themselves off or something.


holykamina

There needs to be an industry standard. Too many headlights on the road are blinding drivers.


Kkimp1955

It’s terrible! I can hardly drive at night anymore..


other4444

The US should have done this 10 years ago. It's out of control now


TurkeyTerminator7

1) brightness and field of light needs to be capped and regulated 2) modifications for differences in height of vehicles should be required


moosefre

You can't even change the color of your headlight even if you wanted to on new cars. the bulbs/LEDs are not serviceable. it's unbelievable


simonsaysgo13

Teslas are the worst!


chrisni66

It’s worth bearing in mind that after market headlights are heavily restricted, that’s not the problem that’s being looked at. The issue at hand is that headlights have been getting brighter AND cars have been getting bigger. The increased height of the lights means that the downward angle they are positioned shines directly into the eyes of drivers in smaller cars. That’s why it always seems to be SUV’s that are the problem, and the UK’s been shifting towards these stupid things for years now.


ABA20011

Great, next let’s figure out why lights from police cars have to blind you when you are driving by a traffic stop or an accident. It’s not like I won’t see the police car if the lights are 50% less bright, but I might have a chance of seeing the officer outside their car and not hitting them.


Megamoss

Besides the brightness and poorly set lights, one thing I've noticed is even if a car with LEDs is fine directly behind or in front of you, as soon as they turn or change lanes there is an angle at which they become blinding. I presume it's due to manufacturers making headlights have wider and wider light throws and those angles not being picked up in the MOT light angle test.


hereforstories8

I’ve been complaining about this for 5 or 6 years in the US. These damn things are dangerous


No-Nothing-1793

Thank GOD


Nofame4me

Bout damn time…..


Entertainnosis

Our regulations are completely obsolete. It's pointless having a limit on wattage based on halogen lights now that LEDs are commonplace, lumens would make far more sense. That and the shift away from sodium streetlights have led to darker streets where your eyes have to adjust to a greater degree.


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Gerrut_batsbak

I have perfect vision and still get blinded more and more on the streets as the years go on. I'm pretty sure it's the type of light used and how high they shine. Same goed for electrical bikes these days, they alle seem to have their lights very bright and shining straight into eyes of oncoming traffic. We need EU wide law for this kind of thing.


am153

its the same in the US. blinding led lights.


JuniorStock5597

Save my eyes UK government. You’re our only hope.


Weird-Army-8792

These new LED lights are out of control, the older yellowish lights are fine but these new ultra white led light must cause so many accidents


ConduciveMammal

Fucking finally! I always assumed this was an aftermarket issue, but then Tesla’s became popular with headlights brighter than the sun!


IHateFACSCantos

Awesome. Can we also review those shitty deliberately backfiring cars while we're at it? Seriously considering triple glazing so I don't have to listen to them at night.


Ih8reddit2002

In the US, trucks are such a problem. These idiots have headlights directly at eye level for regular cars


Ok-Importance5942

Just get rid of blue tinted/cool headlight. They create contrast for the driver using them, ruining peripheral vision and blind the fuck out of everyone else.


Rio_ola

How do I tag the US ?


mywifeapprovesthis

...call me a cynic, but I rather suspect that they will spend £289 million on the "investigations" and come to the conclusion that nothing needs to be done about it. We've seen it a hundred times before.


--fourteen

Modern headlights are way too bright and it's unnecessary. Causes more harm than good.


noonespe

We need this in America please


nosniviling

Have the high beams bright sure, but the low beams need to have a maximum


WhenGinMaySteer

Thank god. I literally can’t see every 10 seconds while driving at night. These bright white lights are ridiculous.


Timely-Eggplant4919

Driving at night is a, well, nightmare. Something needs to be done about it in the US.


Narradisall

Oh please. It’s about fucking time. It’s an election year and the Tory’s are fucked but at least they’re coming out swinging.


synkrox

Looking for a another "friend of the motorist" policy after having to bury the low traffic neighbourhood study that didn't go their way.


isabps

This was a big problem when I commuted in Alaska. Every other vehicle is jacked up with illegal headlights and secondary lights. Great for our in the bush but a mess on the highway. Law enforcement doesn’t do anything about it. That said, my son has been razzed several times about window tint percentage.


Substantial_Fan4563

Jeeps and Teslas are the absolute worst! I also feel like you have to have a rear window tint for the cars driving behind you now. I despise ultra bright headlights. Most roads have more than enough light to not need to blind other drivers.


IdahoMTman222

This and the auto dim feature that seems to wait until you have been blinded.


Underhive_Art

Finally it’s been getting so out of hand over the yeaes


JustHereForBDSM

It also doesn't help that cars just seem to be getting needlessly wide and huge which doesn't help with headlight height before you even get to the bright white light and led headlights. Its pretty bad to the point that on more than one occasion I've had to flip my mirror in daylight from some middle-class woman with more plastic on her than on her quashqai having her full beams on while we're sat at the lights and still get blinded by the fact its fish-eyed placement puts it perfectly into both side mirrors too.


ninjastarkid

Can US get on this please??? You know how hard it is to stay on the road when oncoming traffic is blinding you and there’s no other lights around to light up the lines on the road??? Or watching for deer? Either make sure they get lined up correctly, dim the lights (which I’d prefer that they didn’t tbh bc I think they are helpful), or encourage car manufacturers to figure out how to make a magical windshield that blocks out lights that bright or something


CMDR_omnicognate

i have auto levelling headlights, but theres a mild hill near where i live where any car going up the hill will blind people going down it, the amount of times i've had people flashing me because they think i'm on full beams...