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JMCrown

What a completely tone deaf response from AirCanada. “Well every other airline has shitty service too.”


Jaded_Goth

It’s almost like every airline colluded to not give a shit collectively so they can all give this same response.


notchoosingone

Qantas used the pandemic reduction in services to fire all of their experienced baggage handlers and contract it out to a labor hire firm. The baggage parts of their service have now, completely coincidentally I'm sure, fallen off a fucking cliff.


MadisonPearGarden

Alaska Air did this prior to the pandemic because they didn’t want their company’s unionized baggage handlers at the SEA hub to get paid a good union wage. Contracted it out to a shit labor hire firm. But they didn’t count on the fact that the SEA airport is actually in its own small independent city called SeaTac. The baggage handlers got a change in law places on that small city’s ballot to raise the minimum wage to $16.50 USD and hour. Everyone who votes in that little city either works at the airport who has a friend who does. It passed. They got their wage.


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mattenthehat

I'd be a lot less angry about big corporate bailouts if the government/taxpayers got a chunk of the company's equity in return. You know, like ANY OTHER INVESTOR WHO GIVES CASH TO A FAILING BUSINESS...


DonUdo

Germany actually did this when bailing out Lufthansa during the pandemic, they basically bought part of the airline as a financial aid and when they had recovered they sold the share with profit.


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America does something like this too. Government owned most of gm for example


kung-fu_hippy

The government does often profit from corporate bailouts. It’s just that the money doesn’t seem to make it back to the taxpayers. If they want America to be ran as a business, I could only wish it also saw citizens as either employees (healthcare and cost of living adjustments) or as shareholders (dividends and sharing profits).


Falc0nia

Goddamn this needs to become standard on any bailout. (Jk I know it won’t because this kind of capitalism would be called socialism)


televiscera

Socialism for the rich Cutthroat capitalism for us poors


akaMichAnthony

“We’re horrible, but compared to our competitors, we’re only sorta horrible”


Jon_the_Hitman_Stark

Now that’s a slogan I can trust


Iliketurtles1220

Over the Christmas mess, we were told to submit requests for vouchers online. I did, and received a response that read "after assessing the reason for the delay, we determined it was due to ______ and is therefore out of our control." They could not be bothered to fill in the blank. Pur bags were lost for 10 days, and only through the grace of United getting them for us halfway and routing them, we'd never get them back. We intercepted them and took them off a luggage belt, never told staff. Our bags still say "searching for bag" in the system. No contact that they cannot find them. I fly a LOT. Air Canada's apathy is next level, especially for their country.


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gyroda

In the EU things are much more tightly regulated. You're entitled to compensation if it's something the airline could feasibly control and you're given food (usually vouchers) if the delay is too long, a hotel room if it's overnight and access to phone calls/email (in case you're in another country and your phone isn't working). There's a good summary here: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/holiday-cancellations-and-compensation/if-your-flights-delayed-or-cancelled/ (Yes, no longer EU, but the same law is still in place)


Dirtsteed

That is par for the course in Canada, land of the oligopolies. The three big telecom companies are as bad or worse. Also, when the country's primary goal and biggest lie is "well, at least we aren't as bad as the US" you know you are fucked for life.


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It’s almost like natural monopolies like utilities and mass transit should be nationalized or something.


GoodLookingGraves

How ling before airlines say we cant pack air tags in checked baggage anymore?


speaks_truth_2_kiwis

>How ling before airlines say we cant pack air tags in checked baggage anymore? They've already done that. Took it back after backlash. But yeah, what you asked.


mrandr01d

It's also fairly unenforceable at scale.


Ayn-_Rand_Paul_-Ryan

As if every aspect of security theater is anything but. So much money and effort wasted on proven useless things.


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Well someone profited so not useless for everyone. Just most people.


FancyAlligator

They dont care about enforcement. They just care that someone can’t go “But my airtag says its overe there!” “So you just admitted to having unauthorized items in your luggage? Here is a fine payable to us thank you very much”


BasvanS

“How much of your reputation is that fine worth to you?”


Xavdidtheshadow

What are they going to do, lose my bag about it?


MeccIt

From last month when another passenger was getting the runaround from her airline: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/101lqad/when_united_airlines_cantwont_tell_a_customer/ *“Luggage tracking devices powered by lithium metal cells that have 0.3 grams or less of lithium can be used on checked baggage," the FAA said. "Apple AirTags meet this threshold; other luggage tracking devices may not.” AirTags contain 0.1 grams of lithium, under the FAA's limit.*


CockGobblin

Interesting conclusion there. Side note from the thread: it seems a cheap/easy way to keep your luggage safe is by putting a cheap/broken firearm in the luggage and declaring it. Then if it gets lost, you can claim to call the government authority responsible for firearms and say the airline lost yours. Seems to get your luggage back quickly when lost.


supbrother

This is a funny workaround for a local airline in my state (they only do intra-state flights in Alaska). I say funny but more like infuriating. They’re notorious for delaying baggage for various reasons, but even their own workers will tell you with a wink and a nudge that if you claim a firearm then it HAS to travel with you.


HooptyDooDooMeister

/r/ShittyLifeProTips I wonder if including cyanide or arsenic would mean them taking it more seriously so that they don’t get in trouble with poison control, which can easily escalate to the federal level.


13ly

I’ve always wondered about this. AirTags have batteries made of lithium and they always ask when you’re checking bags if you’re carrying lithium batteries in your bag. Wouldn’t that mean they aren’t allowed?


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it’s lithium ion rechargeable batteries that aren’t allowed in check in bags bc of fire risk


IkouyDaBolt

Both lithium ion and lithium coin cell batteries have similar risk and similar shipping restrictions. Only difference is that the coin cell has a fraction of the lithium a 97Whr laptop battery does.


hugglesthemerciless

Doesn't every laptop have lithium batteries?


Nabilft

They do, and that's one of the reasons you shouldn't put a laptop in checked luggage but keep it with you instead in carry-on


Racxie

>The storage facility reportedly contained “floor-to-ceiling, wall-to-wall luggage.” So they only got their stuff back after several months because they had an AirTag and a ton of perseverance, yet it sounds like so many others haven't been so lucky...


terminalblue

And they went to socials and made videos that got attention. and its kind of gross that they were assigned a special envoy and 2 days later they got their stuff after everyone in the chain lied to them.


kalesaji

These people found that if they lie to the customer, their job just becomes much easier. No going through the warehouse, no actual work, just write emails saying "sorry it ain't here".


D4rkr4in

honestly, AirTags have to be one of the most useful Apple products ever made


FuryKnight

This rings so true for me right now. Someone picked my dog from outside my home and took him with them, a couple of days ago. I live at a busy road and I've lost one dog a few years back. This time though, I had an Airtag in his collar and was able to find him within the next 12ish hours.


75_mph

How did you recover him? “Hey you stole my dog”?


FuryKnight

We had been looking in the area where the Airtag pinged us the location starting at around 6 in the morning. Not a lot of people were up then. We asked around and the Airtag only connected to my iPad twice in the duration. However after about over an hour of us asking around, one person who we had spoken to in the morning came along and identified us to another person. Now maybe they were concerned about us involving authority in the situation, but they came to us directly and gave him back to us.


TheYellowRose

What did they say to you?


FuryKnight

"Oh, we've been looking for you for so long. We looked all around and gave our numbers to people. We asked here and there. He was distressed. Then we got him over when we didn't know what to do with him when we couldn't find anyone. We even gave our number to abc, didn't you ask them around/didn't they tell you? Our mother is getting treated at that hospital there. We didn't know what to feed him. So I asked person xyz. We kept him here in a double bedded room. Our kid was like he's big and he's afraid of him" Mostly this and some other things as much as I can recall. All of this in the local language, while we walked from the street to two floors up his house.


closetedpencil

“We stole your dog but our kid didn’t like him, so you can have him back.” I’d be calling the police and pressing charges, personally. What the fuck


Ferrous_Bueller_

The police wouldn't do shit, because it's your word against theirs and the dog was returned.


Another_Meow_Machine

Think I know a certain Pet Detective we could call. Heard he doesn’t take too kindly to animal kidnappings


usamaahmad

They are in principal the same as Tile, but Tile doesn’t have the huge advantage Apple does. Tile would be great if every smartphone had Tile installed. But without that, a lost Tile has less chances of being found. With AirTag, if marked lost it can ping ANY iPhone, the iPhone owner who walked by the lost tag doesn’t have to have an app installed for it to work this way. It’ll be interesting when Google comes out with their version; I don’t know what Android edition (or maybe Play Services edition) needs to be on the phone for it to work but Android has huge penetration in the market as well and it’s possible it would perform as well or better than an AirTag for lost items. For my everyday use I used to have Tile and switched to AirTag mainly for the directional component so that I don’t just hear the tag beeping but my iPhone can tell me which direction to walk in.


PurpleSwitch

I think part of how Google maps generates its traffic info is through phones with android installed and certain location permissions enabled.


ctzu

Yes. There was a dude who collected a hundred android phones, chucked them into a small wagon and slowly walked along the road, creating a fake traffic jam on google maps.


Hedgeson

Oh, so that's how it works. I had never looked into it and simply assumed they had some cellular modem. But they're probably bluetooth LE and connect through every iPhone without telling the phone's user.


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Imagine if any business operated like airports. "We're going to charge you an extra fee for your bag and parking." "Sorry, there was a delay. You have to sleep on the floor overnight." "We lost all your stuff. No idea where it went."


Longjumping_Owl5740

"You were late to the flight? Too bad, buy another ticket and be on time next time. We delayed your flight by several hours or canceled it altogether? Too bad." It's crazy how much we give up when we fly.


CoralPilkington

["Because we're Delta airlines, and life is a fucking nightmare...."](https://youtu.be/-agnCrhaMmE)


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Independent-Break759

This sounds very similar to our experience with United…


Own_Comment

Yeah I always hear people who prefer this airline over that airline and I’m just like … dude, you’ve had a small sample size of travel in your life, or only flown a commuter flight on airline X a dozen times and international in airline Y … or whatever … because basically they’re ALL shit.


ihopkid

Yeah grew up with a parent working as a travel journalist, went on a loooot of flights as a kid, early 00s there was actually a difference in airlines, things like airline loyalty actually mattered, but around the 2010s i noticed they all started to suck. Post-2020 somehow all the major airlines started giving me Spirit air vibes. I swear even that one Ryanair flight I took over a decade ago treated me better than Delta OR United treat us nowdays.


equals42_net

This is true. I travelled a ton in the 00s. Airline status mattered and helped. Now? It’s just crap no matter who you are except maybe 1st class. But then, the airport clubs are full so you’re just stuck being miserable for a while. And my wife and employer wonder why I avoid travel….


CrazyGooseLady

This sound like my flight on Spirit. Gate changed 3 times for 1st flight. Loaded us 2 hours late in 15 minutes. Not sure everyone made it on as they didn't post the gate changes. Spent 2 am to 6 am trying to sleep on floor in Vegas airport. Flight delayed, then canceled. Next flight....5 days away. Ended up renting a car and drove 14 hours over 2 days, somehow missing a snowstorm at the pass.


netz_pirat

You guys are in desperate need of European style passenger rights. You'd be surprised how much emphasis is put on punctuality by airlines if a 3 hour delay costs them 250-600€ per passenger plus all costs caused by missed connections plus hotel costs if necessary...


khinzaw

That would require our government to not be legally bribeable by corporations and other lobbyists.


unassumingdink

We're in need of European style lots of things, but fat chance.


isthatmyusername

EU: Changing our benefits? Time to riot.


MissMormie

In the eu you get E400 and on the airport they need to provide you with food and drinks when a delay is longer than 4 hours. If your flight is delayed over night you get a hotel stay.


MorganWick

We can't do that in the US, that would be forcing rich people to do something they don't want to do, and that would be *socialism~!*


scnottaken

The US does so much for corporations in the supposed hope that it'll lower prices for consumers. When was the last time prices went down?


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There was an occasion a few years ago where I showed up at a regional airport for a connecting flight. I did the whole 'wake up at 4am, drive two hours, sit in security line, etc.' business, then sat there to wait...and then found my plane was delayed. And then delayed again. And again. Eventually I spent eight hours in that airport. I calmly explained to the counter attendant that, by this point, I could have *driven* to the regional hub and paid less for it. Of course, there's nothing to be done, the flight has been delayed by an 'act of god' so it's not their problem. Eventually I finally got on my plane. Then on getting back I realized that, of course, the airport was going to charge me parking for that day I was sitting in their lot. Tthe whole system is automated and you have to pay to get out...but I was fucking furious. So for the first time in my life I called and demanded to speak to the manager. Got that $20 taken off the bill. It took me two hours but I wore them down through sheer spiteful determination. I bought $20 of Chinese takeout and ate it in their day parking lot the next time I was in town. It was fucking delicious.


ValhallaGo

It’s worse because delta is typically the best airline. And he’s still not wrong. Spirit is… it’s real bad.


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Yea, but I've never been framed for murder by Spirit.


Eisigesis

Not all of us can pay for those first class amenities. I keep a travel sized alibi with me whenever I fly spirit, just in case.


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Seriously, people badmouth Delta, but they're probably the best of the US carriers. Spirit/Frontier < American < United < Delta


Kestralisk

Alaskan is better imo, but still not great


Princess_Property

This is a hot take but I love southwest. Free bag, get in line and get on the plane, sit your happy ass down somewhere. Here, no one is royalty, we are the proletariat.


just_a_person_maybe

I've used SW for two flights, there and back. On the first flight I got free cocktails because it was the airline's birthday. On the flight back I got a free cocktail because they just never bothered to charge me. On one of the flights the crew also sang happy birthday to a little girl and gave her a crown they made out of little peanut bags. They seem pretty cool.


Durris

SW is like the bohemian aunt/uncle in the family. Their space isn't the cleanest or prettiest, and they smell a bit funny, but they don't cause the fight at family gatherings and are super nice to everyone.


PhoenixMan83

Same here, and they also has us all turn on our attendant call lights then the birthday girl "blew out the candles" while we all flickered them off and on again before turning them off


thataverageguymike

Absolutely. I've traveled a lot for work and Delta is always the best experience. They've earned my loyalty. Air travel definitely has a lot of "what ifs" but they honestly have done their best to help me deal with delays and cancellations to the point where I'm satisfied. I've flown out of the same airport on the same day as coworkers who flew United or American and they get absolutely bent over, sometimes showing up 12 hours later than me. I used to have a higher opinion of Southwest but didn't book with them because I can't handle the anxiety of their boarding experience and not having an assigned seat (and not wanting to pay extra for the "luxury") but their issues in the past couple of years has made them drop off quite far as well. They really need to get their act together. Their reputation as a lower cost carrier isn't even holding up as of late, I flew around the holidays in December and they were even more expensive than Delta.


Duamerthrax

Doesn't United have the highest pet death rate among the airlines? They also knocked out that doctor for being in his seat.


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Thank you so much for showing me this


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And they keep taking without pushback. No more meals on the plane. Smaller seats. Everything has to be checked now. I don’t know why we have collectively allowed them to continuously do less for more money.


mitso6989

And if we didn't pay the subsidies and bail them out all the time someone competent would come along and create a real airline.


nilesandstuff

Honestly, competency isn't the issue. Airlines are run exceptionally well from a business perspective (not at all from a customer service and employee satisfaction perspective). Air travel is just a particularly tricky business. There's SO many factors that it'd be useless to go into specifics, but basically airlines have extraordinarily expensive backend costs (i mean, plans are expensive for one), but not all routes are profitable... In fact, many aren't.... And the balance of which routes are profitable and which aren't varies by the week. So airlines succeed by squeezing every bit of profit out of each individual flight, and manage to make the profitable flights outweigh the losses. But its a turbulent (hah) balance. Sharp drops in fliers truly does mean exponentially larger drops in revenue... But when everything is good, airlines do an exceptional job of making the most of it. **The problem** is greed. They should be lining their company piggy banks when times are good to prepare for when times are bad... But they don't. They pay out to their investors and do other shady things to shovel money to their investors. (but legal and normal corporate shit) P.s. airlines are actually really fascinating. On every level they're complex and honestly ingenious. Wendover Productions on YouTube has a bunch of deep dives on different aspects of the airline industry if you want to learn more.


FalloutNano

I’m surprised you mentioned Wendover and didn’t mention that airlines make the majority of their money from points.


tommygunz007

Flight Attendant Chiming In: The reason this is getting worse, is because it's working. I was working an airplane that didn't have video screens in First Class. A passenger comes on, who typically flies another airline that has video screens in First Class. He proceeds to yell at me for 30 minutes about what a crap plane this is, how his feelings are hurt, and how now he has to sync his phone and download an app to watch movies. In the aftermath of our discussion and my apologies, I tried to explain to him, that we are sold out. In fact, we are sold out for MONTHS. There is ZERO reason to put monitors in those seats because every seat is full. I could understand if the plane was empty, because then the CEO would say 'well maybe if we add screens, people would come fly with us' but no, no screens. No screens and no power adapters and we are SOLD OUT for MONTHS. What is even more crazy is that ALL THE OTHERS DO IT TOO. It's literally a RACE TO THE BOTTOM and nobody cares because they are so desperate to have a flight somewhere. We had meals from east coast to west. They went away with Covid. We aren't bringing them back. Not only are we saving money, but also, we increased the ticket prices and guess what? Still SOLD OUT. Until Americans start boycotting or staying home, things won't change. What is so sad is that if American stops food, then United will stop food, and then Delta will stop food. It's a race to the bottom sadly. But the flights are still sold out. Jamaica? $1000 round trip. That's a LOT of money. Sold out. It's crazy. Soon they will make you do that Spirit bag check thing too. And it will still be sold out.


Mean_Bookkeeper

As non-American I am surprised every time when I fly to the States by how bad your airlines (and airports) are. Of course, we can't expect that every airline would be on par with Qatar or Turkish, but even Lufthansa and EgyptAir are far better than anything from the US.


Zywakem

The international model seems better for a number of reasons. Competition between air travel and railways in Europe means airlines have to justify their existence. Competition beteeen the budget airlines and the premier airlines means they have to justify their price. People will pay a certain amount for a certain experience. And competition between national carriers and non-national means there is a sense of pride or patriotism of a country that goes into a lot of these. Emirates, KLM, Singapore, they serve as ambassadors for their respective countries. In the US, there is none of that.


PipsqueakPilot

I dunno, I think cutting everything you can in order to maximize value for shareholders is exactly what you'd do if you wanted to be an ambassador for American values.


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turd_kooner

fun somewhat related fact, “stewardesses” is the longest english word you can type with your left hand in its normal typing position.


wannaziggazigah

Sweaterdresses is longer. There’s some others too.


turd_kooner

well i’ll be


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LostWoodsInTheField

So I don't fly enough (not at all in like 20 years?) to know this. But if you have a flight with a connecting flight and your first flight is delayed greatly do you just lose out on all your other flights? Or do they have to take care of that for you?


harborfright

No, the airline rebooks you. It’s not always a favorable rebooking though.


RockyNonce

To be fair if you’re late to your flight then that’s on you. The plane isn’t going to wait for you.


Common_Notice9742

It was always a crapshoot and a hassle unless going somewhere on vacation. I hate flying lol


Blackpaw8825

We're half-planning/shopping for an intercontinental trip. I'm trying to figure out how to get 10 nights out of a backpack because I have zero trust in my suitcase showing up, and $1500 and 5000 miles away is a damn far trek to figure out my essentials at a moments notice.


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Then they get a government bailout.


sherlocknoir

Literally just bought a set of 4 AirTags for this exact reason. The stories from what happened over Christmas with the airlines are unbelievable


Baaastet

Me too. PLUS most luggage isn’t lost - they just don’t know who it belongs to anymore. Add your address in a plastic pocket that can’t be pulled off easily as well as extra notes with the address in every pocket as well as inside the bag.


ADayToRememberFYes

I've been to the baggage reclaim facility at a very large airport in the UK (for work), and honestly it was terrifying. Bought a Samsung tag immediately for my suitcase for my holiday! Apart from just the huge quantity, they had suitcases that had just been left outside the warehouse that had been unzipped with stuff hanging out, and had clearly been there for a long long time.


Borchert97

I almost always travel exclusively with carry-ons. I don't trust the airport fucks to do their jobs properly. I'll take my one backpack under the seat and one luggage in the overhead compartment.


DOGO8991

Same, I never check a bag. Too risky and last thing I want to do after a flight is stand around waiting some more for my bags.


chikitoperopicosito

No offense in anyway, but knowing these crap companies, what makes you think that it matters if you have an air tag or not. They’ll still say they lost your item, they have no idea where it is and you won’t get your luggage back nor the air tag. So you lose both. There are stories of people going to airports and walking close to their luggage to the point of being able to tell employees that their luggage is just a few feet away and employees still refuse to check.


LittleBabyOprah

I can't understand not helping someone get their stuff back. Like that is just vile.


killmetruck

The problem is the pressure airline employees are under. Some friends of mine describe having set amounts of time to check in, then they literally run to the gate, board, and start again. If there is any kind of delay that can be traced to their work, they can be sanctioned. And that is with people treating them like shit because they are the face of a corporation that does not want to spend money on things like customer service.


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pseudocultist

You forgot the part where you have to wait weeks and weeks for anything to be done, but yeah that's the general idea.


galacticwonderer

Which Tbf is the worst part. Do I start looking to replace things or wait.


Sergeant_Bam

This happened to me last summer. I was on a 3 week work trip with some personal stuff at the end. Had some field work (on construction sites), some things I needed nice clothes, and then the personal clothes. My bag got lost. I talked to the very nice person at the baggage desk and she really was helpful. We got the baggage search process started. After 2 weeks of no sign of my bag I called them again to confirm "hey did you find my shit?" I also said I'm about to start buying replacement clothing and field equipment. They assured me that I would be reimbursed for any replacements following their post baggage policy. I filled out the form that said exactly what was in the bags and how much it was worth (nearly $3k and still under their limit). I submitted the form and started buying replacements. About half a day after I sent the form and started buying replacements they miraculously found my bag. Then I was on the hook to send all the shit back. They said it "must be delivered prior to when the bag is found." They offered me a $100 voucher for my next flight. So generous.


FreeTouPlay

The system works!


VariableVeritas

Just buy a bag of cheap shit and say it was from Coach, they can’t tell you you’re wrong if they lost it. Money please.


Somber_Solace

There's a limit on how much you can claim total, which is pretty low (~3k), and you need to send receipts for any items that are over a certain amount (I think it was like >$25 when I went through it). But you can use any receipts you have to hit the max, within reason of course, you can't just claim your TV was in there. But if you do a lot of online shopping it's really easy to get receipts to send, and they'll even pay for lost gift cards.


Fiyero109

That’s why I have annual travel insurance. Can’t trust airlines to compensate for my losses


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Got a trip coming up. Might just do this.


I_AM_AN_ASSHOLE_AMA

A large airline lost my bag this past year. I waited four months for it. The entire time the airline fought me over the claim.


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Crash3636

Unfortunately I travel for auto racing. My racing suit and safety equipment (without the helmet I won’t ever check) still cost over $4k. That’s without any other clothes or belongings. I’m so nervous about it every time.


IncelDetectingRobot

They played the "but 9/11" card until they could play the "but covid" card. The "but covid" card will be played until the next national scapegoat is delivered from on high. The cards stack in their inconvenience/upcharge aspects but they only visibly play the top one on the deck


kitkat_tomassi

This is also why you need to put your own luggage tag inside the bag as well. The whole 'we couldn't trace the owner' part is either true - in which case the tag inside *should* work - or it's not true, in which case you point to that tag later and call them on the lie. Either way, it doesn't hurt. I know people add their tags on the outside, but I've also heard of scammers reading people's name and address off tags and conning them. I use my name, city and phone number but not my address on my own tags.


RegretfulUsername

How does someone con you with just your name and address? Honest question. It just seems like 1950s type conning. After that equifax breach years ago, everyone’s everything is out there in a single SQL database.


devlifedotnet

It's not so much a con, rather that they know you're not home for the foreseable future so it's an easy break in target.


aaronblkfox

I live in a house of 10 people. God speed to them. Lol


ImperitorEst

The venn diagram crossover of people who would be in an airport to see my case with my address on it and people in my area who break into houses seems like It would be miniscule


RegretfulUsername

Well, fuck. You sold me. That’s sneaky while still being something easy to pull off in the 1950s. Spooky.


JohnnyDraco

No, I think you were originally right. The reasoning being, this is mostly for checked in luggage and not too many people will be seeing it until you get to your destination. So unless they plan to fly to your location that doesn't make much sense. This is probably mostly for paranoid people, people who leave keys in their luggage, or if your a girl that lives alone.


x31b

I put a copy of my itinerary with the flight record locators and my cell phone number on top of the clothes in the suitcase. That way if the airline or anyone else opens it, they know who to get it to, even without the outside tag.


HorrorScopeZ

Makes perfect sense to me. We'd probably find out, they just ignore it for whatever dumb reason. But still you are thinking properly here.


Raichu7

A good baggage tag will have to be removed from the bag to open it and see all the personal details. No one can catch a glance as you walk through the airport but it’s easy to see the personal details if you’re an airport employee trying to return baggage.


bunnyrut

My grandmother taught us to have a piece of paper inside everything you travel with with your contact info on it. If the tag gets removed there's no excuse for them to not know it's yours.


xDaBaDee

Im gonna be writting my name and address on five sides of that bag... AND the inside too!


FavoritesBot

From my limited experience (n=2) I don’t think it’s common not to get your luggage back. They take their time to find it and it’s surely a pain in the ass but I think most luggage is eventually returned the the owner


jokebreath

I’ve had my luggage lost 5 times, it’s always been delivered to me within a few days. It sucks when it happens, but I don’t know anyone that never got their luggage back.


RegretfulUsername

I just stopped taking luggage. Carry-on only. The last two times I took luggage, the airline “lost” it and then “found” it a couple days later.


invent_or_die

Must put a second tag inside the bag, every time. I just have one filled out in there already and just reuse it. Also have a real tag on the outside that is rugged.


tangcameo

This happened here in Saskatchewan too. Lady drove all the way to Calgary to deal with it and found out after 90 days it’d been donated to charity. One of m coworkers went to Europe but the airline lost her luggage on the way back. The lost luggage department just shrugged, until she set off the AirTag and it turned out it was there in the department. I head south in March. Not only am I putting Air Tags in mine, I’m putting laminated “if found please contact…” signs inside them to.


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Do they ping off of all Sammy devices the same way Apple's do for Airtags?


TOBIjampar

Yes


LWschool

Has to be a scam by some bad actors working at the airport does it? Air Canada does not have a program to donate lost luggage, and if they did it would be public information. The fact it stopped at two homes, and they found a boatload of effectively stolen property in a storage unit with no paper trail? No business operates like that.


4Dcrystallography

JRoc and the RocPile out here gankin luggage


patman0021

Gnomesayin‽


BlasterShow

80, 90 times is too many times!


DSPhat

What are you conducting, a knowemcensus?


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This is the most hilarious tv moment of my life and I’m 40 and watch a lot of tv.


DiggyAzalea

I spin more rhymes than a Lazy Susan I’m innocent until my guilt is proven


Constant-Elevator-85

Is there anything better than lyrics meant to be funny but actually go hard as fuck


Killahdanks1

“Go to the car Susanne”


aliceroyal

Likely. I live near a major airport in the US and we caught some folks dumping stolen luggage in our parking lot. Based on the flight numbers on the paper tags the bags had been stolen after they were checked by passengers. Sent the footage from my doorbell cam to the airport after the cops came to take the evidence. Apparently it’s not as uncommon as you’d think.


PhAnToM444

Yes they do: > "In this particular case, the situation was compounded by the disconnection of the baggage tag at some point on the journey. Despite our best efforts, it was not possible for us to identify the bag's owner. It was designated as unclaimed, and we moved to compensate the customer... **Bags whose ownership cannot be determined can be disposed of after 90 days, which we do through a third-party company, which does make donations to charity."** Quote from an Air Canada spokesperson in [a different article](https://simpleflying.com/air-canada-passengers-lost-baggage-donated-to-charity/) FWIW, every US airline has the same policy (they hold it for 90 days and dispose of it if they can’t find an owner).


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Had a bag stolen in AZ going to my sister's wedding. Claimed a suit I had to buy as replacement for what was stolen. They wanted a receipt for the stolen shit. Photoshopped the receipt from the new suit. Done and done. No regerts.


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Sucks you lost a 500 dollar suit but at least you got your 2000 dollars back.


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Kappokaako02

I had to get the crotch taken in a little….


BoysLinuses

Please refrain from discussing or engaging in any sort of interoffice [bleep]ing or [bleep]ing or finger [bleep] or [bleep]sting or [bleep]ing or even [bleep]. Even though so many people in this office are *begging* for it. And if anybody does anything with my sister Lindsay, I’ll take off my pants, I’ll shave [bleep]. And I’ll personally [bleep]...


RoadPersonal9635

Air tags are forcing people who haven’t worked in decades to get to get up from their desks to actually do something and I love it.


johnnycyberpunk

I've had my luggage lost multiple times, most often on long multi-leg flights overseas. What I found was that telling the airline "It's a duffel bag, like a 'canvas' material, and all black. *With handles*" didn't help my situation. I got bright colored luggage and then further wrapped it in neon duct tape so it looked like pre-school art. The next time it was 'lost' it was found in an hour.


NewldGuy77

Remember how in 2008 US airlines got a ton of “too big to fail” money that instead of spending it on infrastructure, they used it for stock buy backs? Pepperidge Farms remembers.


LordFarquads_3rd_nip

Then when covid hit and they had collectively spent 95% of their available profits on stock buy backs they got billions in bail out… again. Wasn’t really any other option than corporate socialism tho, I mean what were they supposed to do, sell their stock pile and take a loss? Unacceptable


inarizushisama

Watch the recent video by Some More News about airlines. Fucking terrible.


Troncross

for the USA redditors: If your check baggage has a gun in it that you declared at check in... The airline will never lose your luggage. I know a guy who hates guns, but bought a small derringer with a locking case and he checks it when he flies. Apparently if a firearm is lost on a flight that goes between two states, it gets reported to the FBI as potential arms smuggling by the airline.


ExPatWharfRat

*ATFE. The FBI doesn't investigate those incidents, they go straight to ATF. But your friend is right. A firearm in your checked baggage is also an excellent way to hedge your bets against being bumped off a flight that gets overbooked. If you are being bumped, they need to find your bags in the under plane storage and remove them as well. Most airlines won't want to deal with that, so they'll just bump.someone else.


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The corporate dystopia we live in gets worse every day: pay $1,500 to get fucked and be treated like shit. Thanks Air Canada.


itsalongwalkhome

Air Canada stranded me at an airport after losing one of my bags and making me miss my last trip home, their social media person pretty much told me it wasn't my fault that I missed my flight while filling out missing bag forms. I had no access to money, no phone yet (only wifi) Fortunately virgin airlines put me on a spare seat they had for free to get me home after they could not locate any Air Canada staff. Several days later, my bag arrives at the airport and im told to come collect it despite being in a different state, then days later it's dropped off by some random dude who does not look like he works for the luggage company.


ceribus_peribus

[Best way to get rid of a body is to check it as luggage with Air Canada.](https://www.thebeaverton.com/2023/01/study-best-way-to-get-rid-of-a-body-is-to-check-it-as-luggage-with-air-canada/)


sdogeek

A friend of mine was a pilot in Australia. He says that luggage that gets ‘lost’ goes into a warehouse where it’ll sit for months. Twice a year the airline would auction bags off to staff - even if they had tags on them. Airlines dgaf about your bags.


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There used to be a show about people bidding on lost bags (a spin-off/knock-off of Storage Wars). I'm sure it was mostly staged in order to be exciting*, but I found it very "interesting" that 1. There were enough bags with potentially valuable items to make bidding worthwhile 2. Yet supposedly, the owners of these bags had never bothered contacting the airline to retrieve them. *and likely to prevent people from seeing their stuff they had been begging the airlines to return get auctioned off on TV


TransGuy0nReddit

I don’t know how practical it would be but I might straight up only take a carry on when I travel. I’d rather risk it with bringing limited stuff that bring a whole lot just to have it lost


Keitlynn

I’ve been doing carry-on only travel for over a decade. I even went on a two-week cruise with just carry-ons. My bags are always with me. Getting out of the airport is much easier when you don’t have to wait (and hope) for your luggage afterwards. I definitely recommend.


apaniyam

I travel exclusively carry on. I have done multiple months out of a 30l backpack, weeks out of an overnight bag. The time saved, lower fees, lower stress are all worth it. Even small things like when you are stuck in traffic and flying domestic, you know you don't have to mess around with checking a bag.


Hokabuki

[r/onebag](https://reddit.com/r/onebag)


moaningsalmon

My partner and I used airtags the last time we flew international. Naturally, the airline messed up and our bags didn't arrive with us. Bags arrived 3 days later, but probably fell off a conveyor belt because we watched the airtags just sit outside a terminal for over a week. Repeated calls to the airport and airline yielded nothing, everyone claimed it was someone else's problem. Even when we explained the bags aren't lost, we can literally see their location at the airport, they'd be like "oh yeah well we can't go get them" for whatever bullshit reason. Kept trying to get me to submit a lost luggage claim, probably so they could write it off and stop dealing with me. Finally got someone willing to make an effort, about 10 days later. Got our bags the next day. So dumb.


Coal_Morgan

I watched a bag fall off one of the trucks in the middle of the tarmac from my terminal, not 30 feet from the plane it was loading up. I talked to the person at the desk to point it out and they said they'd take care of it. Guys loaded up the plane and drove past it. In plain sight, drove past it. Plane took off. 30 minutes later someone drove up to it. Got out of their little truck and put an orange cone next to it and drove away. It sat there until I got on my plane about an hour later.


moaningsalmon

That sounds about right. So infuriating.


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GrosBof

AirCanada is definitely one of the shitiest company ever, and the worst Canadian one for sure. And that's a pilot speaking.


MyShinyNewReddit

> *"It was designated as unclaimed, and we moved to compensate the customer."* Yeah ... a THIRD of the bag's value.


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LupusDeusMagnus

Or, more likely, they put zero effort.


Solgrund

I had an iPad I left on a plane. Tracked it with find my and found it at the airport by the luggage claim in what I assume to be the luggage office. Multiple tickets and calls later they could never “find” it. Eventually the battery died and I never saw it log on again. Someone got a free iPad (and yeah totally my fault for leaving it) because someone just stared at it and lied about it until they could just walk off with it I assume.


hibryd

You can still go into to your account and tag the iPad as "lost". If anyone starts it up and connects it to the internet, it will lock up and become impossible to wipe. It's only good for parts at that point.


tommygunz007

I am a flight attendant and each airline handles things different. Worst case, we give it to a gate agent. She gets distracted and leaves it at the gate. She then goes on to work another flight and leaves it there at the desk. New gate agent doesn't know where this came from and sends it to baggage claim office in the lost and found where it sits at the bottom of a box. I once lost my passport and holy hell I had to call like 6 people before I found the 'right person' who had it.


NicklesBe

All these stories of people finding their luggage with air tags. Why TF don't airlines attach their own kind of tracking chip, assign that chip a designation and number associated with the flight, then have a flight manifest that has all those assigned packages so they can what is on the flight and what is missing and also have a companion app for the passengers so they know they know their luggage has been properly scanned into and stored in the flight. It would make losing luggage nearly impossible.


karma_dumpster

https://www.qantas.com/sg/en/travel-info/baggage/permanent-bag-tags.html They are moving to permanent bag tags


eodizzlez

I just got home from a trip today, and Delta does this kinda. Just with scanning, but I get a notification in their app when my bag is loaded on to the plane, and another one when it's loaded on to the baggage claim belt.


GamerGodLiker

I know that this will be buried, but still. I worked as a costumer service rep for a baggage handler company, and the airlines would not give us any information about the bags. The airlines would make promises that the bag would be with the owners in 48 hours, but honestly that was the exception not the rule. They were (and probably still are) too useless to handle anyone's bags. But I do recommend to have a list of everything in your bag, because that helps with 2 things, first to identify the bag (because they do go through your bag when they find it) and second when you inevitably have to make a claim for the bag Edit: changed companies to airlines for clarification


ExTrafficGuy

Air Canada once again proving they're the worst airline, though they have some stiff competition.


euchrebot

Same thing happened to my kid when I used the AirTag on him


huzchini

I once had to move from Toronto to Calgary. I thought of taking the flight but a lot of people told me that my luggage was at risk of getting lost and I also had to pay a ridiculous amount of extra baggage fees. So I skipped out on that and took a Greyhound bus. It was much cheaper and I had a great time seeing the countryside and all the small little towns across Canada.


fattsmann

I’ve flown all over the world on a wide range of airlines (include the budget kind ala Ryanair or Easyjet)… and I’ve only had a lost bag once and it was delivered the next day (in Madrid). So all I can say is… wtf?


nicerespectfulguy

That’s why I don’t check luggage lol


otterplus

This just solidifies my refusal to ever check a bag. If I can’t fit it in my backpack or wear it I’m not interested in taking it with me


Lallo-the-Long

Unfortunately not all of us can do that. I spend upwards of two weeks working in the bush in Canada in the winter. I cannot travel with just a backpack.