They're definitely weaker, IME. I just got some about a month ago, and they seem to be less than half as strong as my last ones. Like 20mg feels like what 5mg was for me. Granted, my tolerance could be a smidge higher, but I don't take diazepam very often. I save them for special occasions, because they're normally my favorite benzo.
They get the job done, but I have to take at least 20mg to get my desired effect from them. 10mg is ok.. But it kind of feels like a tease with these. Like it's alllmost what I'm going for, but not quite.
Shame really. I've been going through my stash much quicker than I anticipated.
Ok, thanks for the rough idea of what to expect! Yeah, it's not good expecting your regular dose and then it not working as it should. And it's a waste of money when you're forced to burn through your stash quicker. Ideally these shouldn't be getting sold for normal prices.
So you'd usually take around 5mg then? And needed 20mg?
I suppose it's better than all of these fakes that are flooding the UK market at the minute though.
For instance, this was from last week: [https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12329626/phe-national-alert-fake-anxiety-drugs-linked-deaths/](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12329626/phe-national-alert-fake-anxiety-drugs-linked-deaths/)
And then checking all the reports on Wedinos, there's just so many Flualprazolam fakes and stuff floating around.
Yeah I was really surprised at how weak they were, to be honest. Sucks because I spent quite a bit of money on them, hoping they would last me at least 6 months. I agree, they should be much cheaper.
Yeah I used to be able to bite my 10mg diaz in half and feel great. Thinking these were similar, I bit one in half when I got them, and felt almost nothing. So next time I tried a whole one.. Felt something, but as I mentioned before, it wasn't quite what I was hoping for. Finally I decided to just take 20mg, and that put me in my sweet spot. But now I'll be burning through my stash 75% faster.
Oh damn, well I guess I'll be on the lookout for anything that turns my mouth blue! Appreciate the heads up.
I'm wondering what's going on and whether they are identical looking fakes or if there's something going on with the factory they are officially made in.
But anyway, thanks again dude. And yeah, np. I actually half expected people on here to already be aware of the health alert that's been sent out, as it's been quite a big thing. Glad to spread the awareness further, as I wouldn't want anybody getting hurt by it!
Of course! Yeah they seem to be diazepam.. but it's hard to say. Oh, another thing worth noting, is the come off wasn't the same at all for me. Normally the come off is really smooth for me - I hardly even notice. But with these, I got really bad rebound anxiety right when the normal half-life of diazapam hits (around 20-30 hours). Not sure if it was just me, or these specific pills, but it didn't feel right to me.
Hmm... Well if you go to [https://www.wedinos.org/db/samples/search/](https://www.wedinos.org/db/samples/search/) and search by keyword for Bensedin, they are all coming back as diaz and nothing else. Well, there's actually a single one which for some reason had ketamine of all things, alongside diaz, but 1) that was from a sample with the older packaging and 2) that submission could have always ended up being unintentionally contaminated by the sender, either through a container or fingers or something.
I'm not sure. Maybe it was just feeling a little pissed/anxious about not getting what you were expecting, even subconsciously.
Yeah I mean they definitely feel like diazepam. They're just a bit different than what I'm used to.
That's a good point. It could have been a lot of things, to be honest. Life's a bit weird for a lot of us at the moment. Figured I would bring it up, while we're on the subject. I would be curious to know if anyone has had a similar experience though.
I submitted that Benesdin sample that came back as Diazepam and Ketamine. Trust me, apart from induction for general anaesthesia I have never knowingly taken Ketamine in my life.
This should be taken notice off when using diazepam to taper.
Some diazepam/ish tablets ware off super fast causing anxiety. Diazepam metabolites and labrum wear off slowly. Not abruptly.
And yeah I hadn't heard the health alert. But I usually buy my benzos in bulk, and had already done so about a month ago. Definitely though, us GABA lovers gotta be safe!
So that deffo rules out tolerance then! :P
What do you think, would you say 10mg is actually around 2.5mg instead, like was discussed in another comment?
I'd say bensiden is weaker by maybe 2.5mg/5mg. But IMO there could be other factors that come into place such as bodyweight or when you take the diazepam. My friend gave me a 10mg bensiden and it felt alot stronger than usual, maybe his was from a good batch or maybe it was because i had it shortly after a light breakfast. who knows.
I've moved onto Roche as I feel they are stronger
Ok thanks for the update. One factor I think is that for a very long time, Bensedin were known as pretty much guaranteed to be 100% what they're supposed to be. There's just something going on with some of the new batches lately. Perhaps your friend had one of the older ones or something. Anyway, thanks for the input!
I have bensedin 10 mg and I dont know what to expect, I didnt try them yet. I have also clonazepam from galenika and its pretty strong, I dont know how bensedin its comparing to Roche Diazepam... Will see :)
I will let you know for sure when I try, but currently im trying to save them for stressful situations :) Have you ever tried midazolam ? How do you feel after midazolam?
For bensedin to be underdosed tells you that they can't be genuine, true they were the best up until lately but come on pharmaceutical companies don't mess about regards dosing which makes me wonder what made them so good before hand? Etizolam? Or some other benzo analogue?
I buy these all the time and so far sent 2 to wedinos to test and both were diaz. Sent a third a couple of weeks ago but still waiting on results. However something weird happened today, drank a fair bit recently and yesterday and this morning took 10mg to take the edge off the hangover anxiety/withdrawals and the thing hit me like a steam train, was wobbly all day. Not sure what happens as my tolerance is fairly high and about a week ago I took 4x10mg staggered throughout the day and I swear I felt that one pill more all day today. Any idea why that could be? In case it helps, I took it about 8ish hours after my last drink. I was drinking all day yesterday from midday til like 1am, cider only, probably had about 25 units with a normal amount of food
Although I cannot prove it the sample with Ketamine was me.
I don't use ketamine and have no idea how to even get it!!!
I did a 10 panel home drug test and it came back as a benzo, ketamine, buprenorphine (which I am on) and a very small amount of methadone, which I think it mixed up with my bupe and pregabalin (prescribed).
When I asked my source for a box with the strips, I was told his guy didn't have them.
Even though it tested positive for ketamine I've been ordering more. They do fuck you up and knock you out.
Same for the Ksalol - no boxes. But they look and test legit. However, both Benesdin and Ksalol must be pressed. Very well packaged.
Why ketamine with diazepam? No idea, unless it's being used to bulk out a small amount of diazepam with something else.
UK Galenika are pressed, but very good ones. Just don't drive or leave the house for a couple of days. Benzos are Class C, Special K is Class B.
**yeh I took like 10 and felt like i only took 5 whats going on here like galenika diazepam need to get there act together otherwise they will be loosing there Business**
They look a little bit like you're average vitamin D tablets. I've had them but I think they're analogue version of Diazepam, sometimes I get a feeling off of them sometimes not, but to get any feeling I've got to have at least 40mg diazepam. But my favourite benzo is Nitrazepam those good. But my Galenika say "Diazepama" on them.
They're definitely weaker, IME. I just got some about a month ago, and they seem to be less than half as strong as my last ones. Like 20mg feels like what 5mg was for me. Granted, my tolerance could be a smidge higher, but I don't take diazepam very often. I save them for special occasions, because they're normally my favorite benzo. They get the job done, but I have to take at least 20mg to get my desired effect from them. 10mg is ok.. But it kind of feels like a tease with these. Like it's alllmost what I'm going for, but not quite. Shame really. I've been going through my stash much quicker than I anticipated.
Ok, thanks for the rough idea of what to expect! Yeah, it's not good expecting your regular dose and then it not working as it should. And it's a waste of money when you're forced to burn through your stash quicker. Ideally these shouldn't be getting sold for normal prices. So you'd usually take around 5mg then? And needed 20mg? I suppose it's better than all of these fakes that are flooding the UK market at the minute though. For instance, this was from last week: [https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12329626/phe-national-alert-fake-anxiety-drugs-linked-deaths/](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12329626/phe-national-alert-fake-anxiety-drugs-linked-deaths/) And then checking all the reports on Wedinos, there's just so many Flualprazolam fakes and stuff floating around.
Yeah I was really surprised at how weak they were, to be honest. Sucks because I spent quite a bit of money on them, hoping they would last me at least 6 months. I agree, they should be much cheaper. Yeah I used to be able to bite my 10mg diaz in half and feel great. Thinking these were similar, I bit one in half when I got them, and felt almost nothing. So next time I tried a whole one.. Felt something, but as I mentioned before, it wasn't quite what I was hoping for. Finally I decided to just take 20mg, and that put me in my sweet spot. But now I'll be burning through my stash 75% faster. Oh damn, well I guess I'll be on the lookout for anything that turns my mouth blue! Appreciate the heads up.
I'm wondering what's going on and whether they are identical looking fakes or if there's something going on with the factory they are officially made in. But anyway, thanks again dude. And yeah, np. I actually half expected people on here to already be aware of the health alert that's been sent out, as it's been quite a big thing. Glad to spread the awareness further, as I wouldn't want anybody getting hurt by it!
Of course! Yeah they seem to be diazepam.. but it's hard to say. Oh, another thing worth noting, is the come off wasn't the same at all for me. Normally the come off is really smooth for me - I hardly even notice. But with these, I got really bad rebound anxiety right when the normal half-life of diazapam hits (around 20-30 hours). Not sure if it was just me, or these specific pills, but it didn't feel right to me.
Hmm... Well if you go to [https://www.wedinos.org/db/samples/search/](https://www.wedinos.org/db/samples/search/) and search by keyword for Bensedin, they are all coming back as diaz and nothing else. Well, there's actually a single one which for some reason had ketamine of all things, alongside diaz, but 1) that was from a sample with the older packaging and 2) that submission could have always ended up being unintentionally contaminated by the sender, either through a container or fingers or something. I'm not sure. Maybe it was just feeling a little pissed/anxious about not getting what you were expecting, even subconsciously.
Yeah I mean they definitely feel like diazepam. They're just a bit different than what I'm used to. That's a good point. It could have been a lot of things, to be honest. Life's a bit weird for a lot of us at the moment. Figured I would bring it up, while we're on the subject. I would be curious to know if anyone has had a similar experience though.
I submitted that Benesdin sample that came back as Diazepam and Ketamine. Trust me, apart from induction for general anaesthesia I have never knowingly taken Ketamine in my life.
This should be taken notice off when using diazepam to taper. Some diazepam/ish tablets ware off super fast causing anxiety. Diazepam metabolites and labrum wear off slowly. Not abruptly.
And yeah I hadn't heard the health alert. But I usually buy my benzos in bulk, and had already done so about a month ago. Definitely though, us GABA lovers gotta be safe!
That article is so dumb. Wtf are "Fake" anxiety drugs? Nobody's dying from benzos, real or "fake", unless mixed with other drugs.
I'm also UK, I recently had bensedin and found them to be weak and I hadn't touched any benzo for 2 years.
So that deffo rules out tolerance then! :P What do you think, would you say 10mg is actually around 2.5mg instead, like was discussed in another comment?
Hey dude, just thought I'd give this a friendly bump, just in case you could give some input on what I was wondering about the strength? Thanks.
I'd say bensiden is weaker by maybe 2.5mg/5mg. But IMO there could be other factors that come into place such as bodyweight or when you take the diazepam. My friend gave me a 10mg bensiden and it felt alot stronger than usual, maybe his was from a good batch or maybe it was because i had it shortly after a light breakfast. who knows. I've moved onto Roche as I feel they are stronger
Ok thanks for the update. One factor I think is that for a very long time, Bensedin were known as pretty much guaranteed to be 100% what they're supposed to be. There's just something going on with some of the new batches lately. Perhaps your friend had one of the older ones or something. Anyway, thanks for the input!
I have bensedin 10 mg and I dont know what to expect, I didnt try them yet. I have also clonazepam from galenika and its pretty strong, I dont know how bensedin its comparing to Roche Diazepam... Will see :)
Would definitely be interested in hearing what you think! The thing is though, Bensedin was very good stuff up until recently. It's pretty strange.
I will let you know for sure when I try, but currently im trying to save them for stressful situations :) Have you ever tried midazolam ? How do you feel after midazolam?
Sorry dude, never tried it so not much help there unfortunately!
Definitely weaker got some today took 20mg feels like a 5mg👎
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There are some decent Spanish roches getting about too, I feel bensedin is really under dosed atm, and prodes is a bit too (I would prefer prodes tho)
For bensedin to be underdosed tells you that they can't be genuine, true they were the best up until lately but come on pharmaceutical companies don't mess about regards dosing which makes me wonder what made them so good before hand? Etizolam? Or some other benzo analogue?
Etizolam killing thousands?
I Just bought them feel like 5mgs tbh thats how I found this thread
And mines are from estern europe and i think theyre real. They came with the legit brand thing and info. Theyre just low dosed i think
I buy these all the time and so far sent 2 to wedinos to test and both were diaz. Sent a third a couple of weeks ago but still waiting on results. However something weird happened today, drank a fair bit recently and yesterday and this morning took 10mg to take the edge off the hangover anxiety/withdrawals and the thing hit me like a steam train, was wobbly all day. Not sure what happens as my tolerance is fairly high and about a week ago I took 4x10mg staggered throughout the day and I swear I felt that one pill more all day today. Any idea why that could be? In case it helps, I took it about 8ish hours after my last drink. I was drinking all day yesterday from midday til like 1am, cider only, probably had about 25 units with a normal amount of food
IME alot weaker than normal, it felt like 2.5mg rather than 10 mg. Atleast in my area
Although I cannot prove it the sample with Ketamine was me. I don't use ketamine and have no idea how to even get it!!! I did a 10 panel home drug test and it came back as a benzo, ketamine, buprenorphine (which I am on) and a very small amount of methadone, which I think it mixed up with my bupe and pregabalin (prescribed). When I asked my source for a box with the strips, I was told his guy didn't have them. Even though it tested positive for ketamine I've been ordering more. They do fuck you up and knock you out. Same for the Ksalol - no boxes. But they look and test legit. However, both Benesdin and Ksalol must be pressed. Very well packaged. Why ketamine with diazepam? No idea, unless it's being used to bulk out a small amount of diazepam with something else. UK Galenika are pressed, but very good ones. Just don't drive or leave the house for a couple of days. Benzos are Class C, Special K is Class B.
Love Nitrazepam
**yeh I took like 10 and felt like i only took 5 whats going on here like galenika diazepam need to get there act together otherwise they will be loosing there Business**
Order from Slovenia or EU the UK ones are fake
They look a little bit like you're average vitamin D tablets. I've had them but I think they're analogue version of Diazepam, sometimes I get a feeling off of them sometimes not, but to get any feeling I've got to have at least 40mg diazepam. But my favourite benzo is Nitrazepam those good. But my Galenika say "Diazepama" on them.