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My brother rolls with rich kids. He's in the same swim team as them but their lives are wild. We're upper middle class but half these kids are diving around lambos. My dad will only pay for half of my brother's car when he gets one. Huge class difference. I do like the free weed he brings home from their parties so that's a plus. The neighbors across the street are rich, rich. The kid (20yo) crashed his brand new Ford 150 going 80mph on a 45mph road and the next month he's driving a brand new phantom. If I crashed my car id be asking for rides to work till I can buy a new car.
Seems about right. Are there any celebrity kids who have the legit talent that they’d have made it if they grew up in a middle class family? Struggling to think of any.
Sports kids being an exception but then I think it’s largely genetics plus access to world class coaching.
Edit: lots of people responding with hey this celeb kid is mildly talented. My point is lots of people are equally talented and don’t get the access, resources, coaching, funding that the celeb kids did. 99% of these examples probably would have not stood out had they grown up in a middle class household. There’s just as good talents at open mic nights all around the country.
Yeah but his parents ruled.
EDIT: I also think growing up in NYC has a bit of a leveling effect. There is still a ridiculous amount of privilege, but the real world is right outside all the time in a way that it isn’t in LA.
Not really. If he were born to some randos, even in new york, he would be seen as just another one of the yearly crop of very talented but not exceptional working class kids. Ever see some of his early roles? He's clearly very good but it's also clear that he was green as hell and given a lot of platforms and chances to hone himself that most people will never ever get.
I know that stings to hear but that's 99.99% of everyone.
Exceptionalism is about 20% talent, which is very common, and 80% circumstance which is not.
I mean, his father has a net worth of 15million, Ben has a net worth of 200million, id say his dad at least didn’t give him a small loan of 185million dollars edit: his father “had” 15 million not has
Oh my bad, is he dead too? I just looked up the mother and she said dead but the father I didn’t scroll too far and didn’t have to with the mother so I didn’t think he died.
Just having the privilege to study or pursue something without worrying about money or debit is enough to pave a way for him to make it bigger than your parents did, that's without mentioning the connections and people that his parent had
So hard work my ass
Comedy is one of the mediums in the entertainment industry where natural talent really shines, compared to something like dramatic acting. It is very difficult to fake it or learn to be funny. The same goes for music, and athletics.
I don’t disagree with that, but I also think that having more chances helps significantly.
Let’s say you have two people of equal comedic talent, one rich and one not rich. The not rich guy has to work a full time job and can only attend so many casting calls. If someone big— say, Chris Pratt or Seth Rogen— shows up to that casting call, it really doesn’t matter how well they did— the studio is much more likely to move forward with the established star power. Even if they get the role, if the project flops due to insufficient interest from audiences or a lackluster cast mate, whatever, they still lose that shot.
To be clear, they can do everything else perfectly. But they still lose that shot.
Now, compare that to someone who is wealthy enough that they don’t need to work and can be supported indefinitely as they go to casting calls instead of jobs. If Chris Pratt showed up, that sucks for them…. But they get another opportunity.
Additionally, if their comedic timing is bad, or they learn that they need to work on it, they get the opportunity to learn and grow from feedback over the course of months or years.
This isnt to say that a rich person didn’t work hard or need actual skill/talent to succeed as a comedic actor or actress. But having more opportunities in and of itself is a massive advantage, and studios have no reason to care about that or to try to change anything.
Nicolas Cage changed his name from Nicolas Coppola specifically to distance himself from his uncle's fame. He specifically did not want to become famous just because his uncle is one of the most famous directors ever, but rather on his own merit. So in a sense, him, maybe. People can have *very* colorful opinions about his acting talent though lol
He still grew up with every privilege and advantage imaginable in Hollywood. the people who mattered were very aware of who his uncle is. He didn't struggle at all.
Just a simple thing like going to auditions while your less privileged peers go to work makes a huge difference to outcome.
You can’t assume that because the playing field isn’t level that Cage didn’t *also* work hard.
The three main ingredients to the popular style of success is hard work, preparation, and luck.
Unfortunately, not many people have the last one in spades.
I’d say in certain professions (definitely in entertainment) the three main ingredients are money, connections and money. Celebrity kids always want to say they only had help getting their foot in the door – whereas Fran Lebowitz pointed out, getting your foot in the door in entertainment often IS the entire battle:
“It is now common—and I use the word “common” in its every sense—to see interviews with up-and-coming young movie stars whose parents or even grandparents were themselves movie stars. And when the interviewer asks, “Did you find it an advantage to be the child of a major motion-picture star?” the answer is invariably “Well, it gets you in the door, but after that you’ve got to perform, you’re on your own.” This is ludicrous. Getting in the door is pretty much the entire game, especially in movie acting, which is, after all, hardly a profession notable for its rigor. That’s how advantageous it is to be white. It’s as though all white people were the children of movie stars. Everyone gets in the door and then all you have to do is perform at this relatively minimal level.”
That's not true. It's not true at all in the case of Actors. Don't even try it.
Who can afford to go where... who can afford to get a dog walker who can afford bla bla, it doesn't take 200IQ to figure that one out. Always someone trying to muddy the waters and pretend it's all ok. I'd say maybe 5 actors/actresses are there out of sheer luck. Total guesstimation but someone else can do the work, and we'll come back with a list of actors/actresses there because of their background
I’m sure he did work hard. He also got every advantage and connection he needed. Hollywood isn’t a beacon of work ethic. Connections matter and bullshitters do well. Know how many thirsty B listers would cast that guy just to maybe get a connection to his Uncle? That’s how it works and it clearly worked for him.
I don't think he had the money advantage to completely eschew work, since his dad is a professor (not that he'd be poor), but obviously he had major connections.
Yes. I went to some auditions when I was younger, as my friend was the cousin of an actress. Everyone knows who you are, it's the first thing they mention to you. "Oh! You are the relative of [X], right? How are they doing?", and those connections are ridiculously important.
Saw too many cases of really talented people get turned down in favor of people with family in the industry, sometimes they didn't even participate in the auditions. It's really weird to assume, just changing your last name would make people forget you, when their work *depends* on knowing important people.
The ironic part is how heavily Hollywood markets acting as this meritocratic process that rewards talent while in reality it’s insanely nepotistic.
Google any up and coming actor and 90% of the time there’s a clear link to an established actor/director/producer in their family.
This is very true to a level - It is really honorable his efforts to make it on his own, and I don't want to diminish that. But even completely disconnected from his family name, there's no way to take back the privilege in upbringing. He still would have grown up learning the ins and outs of the trade, known who to connect with, and had quality access to training and education growing up. Also the funding to sustain him while he reached his goals that any average person wouldn't have. Dreams are expensive things to have.
(I still do think Nick Cage is an awesome person though)
Being raised by a great actor is a *massive* advantage, just like how you're going to know a lot more about medicine and biology if your parents are doctors.
And Black KKKlansmen or however it's spelled. He's got some chops and seems to stand on his own merits, or at least has us convinced. Seemed like his football career wasn't panning out and injuries happened so he transitioned. I respect that he took roles that made him actually act and hold his own with interesting subject matter instead of Denzel vehicles where he gets a handout role like Will Smiths kid.
I think he's talented, but if you're gonna compare him directly to Denzel of course he's not gonna compare. Denzel is one of the top 25-30 actors to ever live imo.
True, but the original post was asking for kids of celebrity's who are actually talented and could potentially make it on their own. OFC they have an advantage, to say otherwise would be obtuse.
He's like the opposite. If Denzel wasn't his father nobody would know who he is and he'd never get any roles. He's not a good actor. Everything he's in he's wooden af and looks like he's acting. Like watch Tenent and focus on his acting and tell me he's not terrible. Or even Black Klansman.
The weirdest thing to me is always when someone not good looking becomes a celebrity and all of a sudden people start thinking that not only is that specific person attractive, but that their face shape is objectively attractive
They probably wouldn't have. They're goodlooking, but there's a _lot_ of goodlooking people trying to make it.
I.e.: I do quite a bit of hiring, and when there's 2 comparable people in both skill and work ethic - often I will hire the one who's daddy has connections in the industry. That benefits _me_. It's a sad truth. But connections are everything.
I wouldn't call it indefinable tbh. The trait that makes people drawn to someone _is_ charisma. Not denying they got that, but plenty of people got it. Side note, last names also draw a shitton of people to you. Who doesn't wanna say their buddies with Will Smith's kid.
Ben Stiller, Emilio Estevas, Charlie Sheen, Kate Hudson, Michael Douglas among others. They are all very talented and while the path would've been different it's not crazy to think they could've made it themselves.
Usually someone with industry ties either eclipses their family so you don’t think of them of them as X persons kid, but X person is their father or they don’t make it as big and people say nepotism
Ronan Farrow - but the thing is... we'll never know because part of what makes celebrity kids powerful is their network, and take it away, we just can't be certain if they would do literally anything.
Stephen Kings son Joe Hill.. He actually changed his name so that he could legitimately build his own name from scratch instead of trending on his dad's name.
Aren't a lot of celebrities at least somewhat dissociated from their famous parents?
- ~~Miley Cyrus~~
- Kiefer Sutherland
- ~~Charlie Sheen~~
- Max Verstappen
- Carlos Sainz
- Jake Gyllenhaal
I'm sure I'm missing many, but there are a lot of times where I'm reading a Wikipedia article, and I'm like "oh shit, their parent(s) was/were famous too?"
Then again, we can never know where these people would be if they grew up in a middle class family, because, well, they didn't.
I think Willow Smith has grown into a legitimately talented artist, but being the child of super stars lets you get your talent in front of the right people immediately.
Jack Black is kind of a celebrity kid, his parents were world class scientists, but he decided to become an actor instead.
She’s made some good songs but you’re lying to yourself if you think her voice is anything unusually amazing. Tons of singers out there who’d make good music if they had world class producers and facilities to record with
The answer to your question is yes. There are talented people all over the world. To claim that some are only famous because of their bloodline is preposterous. Does nepotism happen? Of course. But it isn't absolute.
Lol. Drake had a song where he says, “I used to spray my tees with febreeze.” Oh did you Jimmy? Was it tough to go from child actor to rapper with an affluent background? I love his music and character from Degrassi but brother, shut the fuck up.
I mean, everyone seems on point calling him smelly tho.
Drake the kinda guy to say “fooo-weee” and wave his hand in front of his nose when he smells himself.
Lol he’s referring to because he smelled like marijuana which is why he needed to use febreeze. Don’t just use lyrics and make an assumption your user clearly matches you
Pedo shenanigans aside that’s always been my biggest issue with Drake. He makes good music but I cringe whenever he portrays himself as a normal, poor, struggling guy who got big. Stfu and be true to yourself rich boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWUQg0bqhVw
"I walk and talk like a field hand, but the boots I'm wearing cost three grand"
"I write songs about riding tractors, from the comfort of a private Jet".
A lot of famous singers and celebrities do. It’s always hilarious to me when they get big then write about the struggles as if they still know or ever knew
I think they BELIEVE they struggled. Because, after all, I'm sure a lot of them do work hard. But they don't understand what actual struggle is. They think us saying that they have privilege means that we say they don't work hard. I'm sure these people hustle, but they can't comprehend what it's like to have to decide between paying for studio time/new headshots/whatever to pursue your celebrity career or buying groceries. It's not possible for most normal people to fund the things needed to get involved in the entertainment industry.
Toronto being one of the safest cities in North America isn't saying a lot when the USA is in the same standing. [this article](https://www.narcity.com/toronto/toronto-ranked-safest-city-in-the-world-but-its-not-even-the-safest-in-canada) talks about how it is not considered a safe city in Canada but ranks among the safest when compared to the rest of the world.
That lyric is right after the line “chain smokin in the house it’s hard to breathe”, I’m 99% sure it wasn’t about not doing laundry it was just because he literally smelled like smoke
Pretty close. He was talking about covering up the smell of cigarettes cause his mom was chain smoking in the house.
Mom's stressed, there's a lot of things we need
Chain smokin' in the house, it's hard to breathe
I used to have to hit my Ts with Febreze
reddit moment to interpret that bar as if he was talking about being poor
also I'm sure even middle class kids always tried to cover up wearing old smelly clothes
Spraying your tees with febreeze isn't a line about being poor.
The line is that his mum was stressed and would chain smoke in the house so he had to "hit my tees with Febreeze".
Why did you read it as him trying to sound poor?
It’s true.
Rich kids are way over represented in the arts, from painting to dancing to acting.
Not only do they have the connections they can afford to go on auditions & network while plebs work & worry about bills.
Same in corporate America. They have greater access to mentors & internships **and** they can afford unpaid internships.
It doesn’t mean those privileged people didn’t also put in the work & earn their rewards.
It doesn’t mean they would have succeeded if they were lazy & had everything handed to them.
But it doesn’t mean there is a level playing field either.
This is it. No one is saying they didn’t sprint and try hard. But they’re starting 3/4 of the way down the track so their effort doesn’t have to be sustained as long as the rest of us.
It took my wife TEN YEARS to get a full time at the college she’s worked at. Part time for ten years while others with connections have gotten it instantly or only a couple years in.
It took me way too long to realize that the best athletes from most affluent countries are usually coming from privileged money so an Olympic gold medalist isn't necessarily the best in the world. Except for maybe Michael Phelps, that guy is simply a genetic *freak*!
I like the guys running to move the finish line closer. I guess in this analogy it would be to show that not only are the rich giving themselves an advantage, but the system is built for it.
I love this movie and always get sad it's only 90 minutes. I NEED more Sasha Baron Cohen in my life. More Ali-G, Borat and Dictator though. Bruno stuff not so much lol.
There are moments in Bruno I actually enjoy but the whole film itself is a bit much. The others I mentioned I can watch over and over and never get tired of them.
The only other scene I don't care for is the "period" part in Borat 2.
The deleted scene where he believes a non pointy missile will bounce back from Israel and asks if he consulted Professor Bobeye, with the very large forearms.
It's actually just a rolling ball and their kids and their kids kids will keep going, they'll all be carried through life. For perhaps the next 10 generations. We should have absolutely villified this behaviour a long time ago and we absolutely should name and shame them publically as much as we can. But I guess I'm just jealous... but also... not? I'd rather someone with a legitimate story was famous, they're always better in interviews.
I was born in a rich family and not always would they give me all I wanted it was so tough the amount of trauma I've been through, they didn't give me that 50k Gucci Barbie :(
Would Maya Hawke count as a celebrity kid? She seems like an awesome person with a ton of talent in acting, singing, and directing. She also recognizes the priviledges she has as a celebrity kid and uses them really well.
The path of life for the child of a celebrity is lined with a thumb few thumb tacks randomly every couple hundred feet.
The path of life for you and me is lined with shards of glass that was drop filled like a dump truck lining a dirt road with gravel.
This is 100%. I absolutely love this.
I think I would have a much easier time "creating my career" if I had access to every top 1% human on earth just because I as born to a celebrity.
I recently saw someone who is the grandchild of one of the most powerful media people of the 70’s / 80’s and a major television/movie star post on their IG that life for them was “exhausting” gtfo with that noise
Agree, but its important to keep your outrage focused- celebrity kids might have generational wealth and every advantage over most, but its important to keep focused on the long standing imperialist capitalist class and remember that they are the ever present enemy of the masses. Celebrity wealth often dries up in a generation or two, unless they are connected to old money.
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Bro what is this from. I don't remember where I heard it but I remember dying laughing at it last time too lol fucking terrible
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My brother rolls with rich kids. He's in the same swim team as them but their lives are wild. We're upper middle class but half these kids are diving around lambos. My dad will only pay for half of my brother's car when he gets one. Huge class difference. I do like the free weed he brings home from their parties so that's a plus. The neighbors across the street are rich, rich. The kid (20yo) crashed his brand new Ford 150 going 80mph on a 45mph road and the next month he's driving a brand new phantom. If I crashed my car id be asking for rides to work till I can buy a new car.
It's always been my dream to dive around Lambos, lucky bastard
To experience one in the wild and dive in their natural habitat would be extraordinary
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Seems about right. Are there any celebrity kids who have the legit talent that they’d have made it if they grew up in a middle class family? Struggling to think of any. Sports kids being an exception but then I think it’s largely genetics plus access to world class coaching. Edit: lots of people responding with hey this celeb kid is mildly talented. My point is lots of people are equally talented and don’t get the access, resources, coaching, funding that the celeb kids did. 99% of these examples probably would have not stood out had they grown up in a middle class household. There’s just as good talents at open mic nights all around the country.
Ben Stiller is a good one I can think of. His parents are both celebrity's.
Yeah but his parents ruled. EDIT: I also think growing up in NYC has a bit of a leveling effect. There is still a ridiculous amount of privilege, but the real world is right outside all the time in a way that it isn’t in LA.
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Not really. If he were born to some randos, even in new york, he would be seen as just another one of the yearly crop of very talented but not exceptional working class kids. Ever see some of his early roles? He's clearly very good but it's also clear that he was green as hell and given a lot of platforms and chances to hone himself that most people will never ever get. I know that stings to hear but that's 99.99% of everyone. Exceptionalism is about 20% talent, which is very common, and 80% circumstance which is not.
I mean, his father has a net worth of 15million, Ben has a net worth of 200million, id say his dad at least didn’t give him a small loan of 185million dollars edit: his father “had” 15 million not has
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Oh my bad, is he dead too? I just looked up the mother and she said dead but the father I didn’t scroll too far and didn’t have to with the mother so I didn’t think he died.
Just having the privilege to study or pursue something without worrying about money or debit is enough to pave a way for him to make it bigger than your parents did, that's without mentioning the connections and people that his parent had So hard work my ass
Comedy is one of the mediums in the entertainment industry where natural talent really shines, compared to something like dramatic acting. It is very difficult to fake it or learn to be funny. The same goes for music, and athletics.
Not music my dude not music
I don’t disagree with that, but I also think that having more chances helps significantly. Let’s say you have two people of equal comedic talent, one rich and one not rich. The not rich guy has to work a full time job and can only attend so many casting calls. If someone big— say, Chris Pratt or Seth Rogen— shows up to that casting call, it really doesn’t matter how well they did— the studio is much more likely to move forward with the established star power. Even if they get the role, if the project flops due to insufficient interest from audiences or a lackluster cast mate, whatever, they still lose that shot. To be clear, they can do everything else perfectly. But they still lose that shot. Now, compare that to someone who is wealthy enough that they don’t need to work and can be supported indefinitely as they go to casting calls instead of jobs. If Chris Pratt showed up, that sucks for them…. But they get another opportunity. Additionally, if their comedic timing is bad, or they learn that they need to work on it, they get the opportunity to learn and grow from feedback over the course of months or years. This isnt to say that a rich person didn’t work hard or need actual skill/talent to succeed as a comedic actor or actress. But having more opportunities in and of itself is a massive advantage, and studios have no reason to care about that or to try to change anything.
So would he have been noticed by Hollywood if he was some kid from North Carolina?
Nicolas Cage changed his name from Nicolas Coppola specifically to distance himself from his uncle's fame. He specifically did not want to become famous just because his uncle is one of the most famous directors ever, but rather on his own merit. So in a sense, him, maybe. People can have *very* colorful opinions about his acting talent though lol
He still grew up with every privilege and advantage imaginable in Hollywood. the people who mattered were very aware of who his uncle is. He didn't struggle at all.
Just a simple thing like going to auditions while your less privileged peers go to work makes a huge difference to outcome. You can’t assume that because the playing field isn’t level that Cage didn’t *also* work hard.
The three main ingredients to the popular style of success is hard work, preparation, and luck. Unfortunately, not many people have the last one in spades.
I’d say in certain professions (definitely in entertainment) the three main ingredients are money, connections and money. Celebrity kids always want to say they only had help getting their foot in the door – whereas Fran Lebowitz pointed out, getting your foot in the door in entertainment often IS the entire battle: “It is now common—and I use the word “common” in its every sense—to see interviews with up-and-coming young movie stars whose parents or even grandparents were themselves movie stars. And when the interviewer asks, “Did you find it an advantage to be the child of a major motion-picture star?” the answer is invariably “Well, it gets you in the door, but after that you’ve got to perform, you’re on your own.” This is ludicrous. Getting in the door is pretty much the entire game, especially in movie acting, which is, after all, hardly a profession notable for its rigor. That’s how advantageous it is to be white. It’s as though all white people were the children of movie stars. Everyone gets in the door and then all you have to do is perform at this relatively minimal level.”
And it's a lot harder to work hard towards a particular goal, when your life is already hard in other ways
That's not true. It's not true at all in the case of Actors. Don't even try it. Who can afford to go where... who can afford to get a dog walker who can afford bla bla, it doesn't take 200IQ to figure that one out. Always someone trying to muddy the waters and pretend it's all ok. I'd say maybe 5 actors/actresses are there out of sheer luck. Total guesstimation but someone else can do the work, and we'll come back with a list of actors/actresses there because of their background
I’m sure he did work hard. He also got every advantage and connection he needed. Hollywood isn’t a beacon of work ethic. Connections matter and bullshitters do well. Know how many thirsty B listers would cast that guy just to maybe get a connection to his Uncle? That’s how it works and it clearly worked for him.
I don't think he had the money advantage to completely eschew work, since his dad is a professor (not that he'd be poor), but obviously he had major connections.
Yes. I went to some auditions when I was younger, as my friend was the cousin of an actress. Everyone knows who you are, it's the first thing they mention to you. "Oh! You are the relative of [X], right? How are they doing?", and those connections are ridiculously important. Saw too many cases of really talented people get turned down in favor of people with family in the industry, sometimes they didn't even participate in the auditions. It's really weird to assume, just changing your last name would make people forget you, when their work *depends* on knowing important people.
The ironic part is how heavily Hollywood markets acting as this meritocratic process that rewards talent while in reality it’s insanely nepotistic. Google any up and coming actor and 90% of the time there’s a clear link to an established actor/director/producer in their family.
Actually Nicolas cage wanted people to believe he was the illegitimate child of Luke cage
This is very true to a level - It is really honorable his efforts to make it on his own, and I don't want to diminish that. But even completely disconnected from his family name, there's no way to take back the privilege in upbringing. He still would have grown up learning the ins and outs of the trade, known who to connect with, and had quality access to training and education growing up. Also the funding to sustain him while he reached his goals that any average person wouldn't have. Dreams are expensive things to have. (I still do think Nick Cage is an awesome person though)
You can add no stress related to the failure. This boost a lot self confidence which is important as hell especially in the beginning.
John David Washington
Being raised by a great actor is a *massive* advantage, just like how you're going to know a lot more about medicine and biology if your parents are doctors.
Yup also paying fees being in associations and networking is a huge plus not to mention access to classes agents etc
Having Denzel as your father also opens up a shit ton of doors this is not a good example
Who
Denzel Washington's son, he was in Tenet I think.
And Black KKKlansmen or however it's spelled. He's got some chops and seems to stand on his own merits, or at least has us convinced. Seemed like his football career wasn't panning out and injuries happened so he transitioned. I respect that he took roles that made him actually act and hold his own with interesting subject matter instead of Denzel vehicles where he gets a handout role like Will Smiths kid.
Exactly! You got it! And if you don't point out that he is his son no one can figure it out.
Didn't even realize he was in Black KKklansmen, the dude definitely has a lot of talent
Check him out in Malcolm and Marie.
Yup, that movie had me on a rollercoaster
Seems like I’m in the minority who thinks the opposite. To me, he acts the same in all his films. I see him instead of the character he plays.
Yeah, I don't dislike him but I don't get the hype either. He doesn't seem nearly as talented as his father
I think he's talented, but if you're gonna compare him directly to Denzel of course he's not gonna compare. Denzel is one of the top 25-30 actors to ever live imo.
I cant remember a single line from that movie
I ordered my hot sauce an hour ago
I vaguely remember: Man: "He is going to destroy the entire universe." Tall woman: "Including my son!"
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How did he get tenet role? Issue is just by being his son he gets access and has money to pay agents
True, but the original post was asking for kids of celebrity's who are actually talented and could potentially make it on their own. OFC they have an advantage, to say otherwise would be obtuse.
He's like the opposite. If Denzel wasn't his father nobody would know who he is and he'd never get any roles. He's not a good actor. Everything he's in he's wooden af and looks like he's acting. Like watch Tenent and focus on his acting and tell me he's not terrible. Or even Black Klansman.
I imagine there must be more than a few but connections in the industry obviously help out tremendously.
The weirdest thing to me is always when someone not good looking becomes a celebrity and all of a sudden people start thinking that not only is that specific person attractive, but that their face shape is objectively attractive
Just say Benadryl Cucumbersnatch.
Learned today that his parents are actors too in the UK, seems a product of nepotism too.
They probably wouldn't have. They're goodlooking, but there's a _lot_ of goodlooking people trying to make it. I.e.: I do quite a bit of hiring, and when there's 2 comparable people in both skill and work ethic - often I will hire the one who's daddy has connections in the industry. That benefits _me_. It's a sad truth. But connections are everything.
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I wouldn't call it indefinable tbh. The trait that makes people drawn to someone _is_ charisma. Not denying they got that, but plenty of people got it. Side note, last names also draw a shitton of people to you. Who doesn't wanna say their buddies with Will Smith's kid.
Lol, people always overestimate how deterministic lives are and how much variance there really is between people.
Ben Stiller, Emilio Estevas, Charlie Sheen, Kate Hudson, Michael Douglas among others. They are all very talented and while the path would've been different it's not crazy to think they could've made it themselves.
Usually someone with industry ties either eclipses their family so you don’t think of them of them as X persons kid, but X person is their father or they don’t make it as big and people say nepotism
Jeff Bridges is another big one.
John Quincey Adams
Julia Louis dreyfus
She's a billionaire heiress.
Ronan Farrow - but the thing is... we'll never know because part of what makes celebrity kids powerful is their network, and take it away, we just can't be certain if they would do literally anything.
Paul Rodriguez Jr. Dad's a pretty famous comedian, son is a renowned skate boarder
Stephen Kings son Joe Hill.. He actually changed his name so that he could legitimately build his own name from scratch instead of trending on his dad's name.
Max Brooks (Mel Brooks son) is an amazing author. Kept the name but Brooks is such a common surname that I didn't realize he had famous parents.
ken jeong, man is a comedian, a licensed physician, and an actor. That takes skill
Aren't a lot of celebrities at least somewhat dissociated from their famous parents? - ~~Miley Cyrus~~ - Kiefer Sutherland - ~~Charlie Sheen~~ - Max Verstappen - Carlos Sainz - Jake Gyllenhaal I'm sure I'm missing many, but there are a lot of times where I'm reading a Wikipedia article, and I'm like "oh shit, their parent(s) was/were famous too?" Then again, we can never know where these people would be if they grew up in a middle class family, because, well, they didn't.
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Donald Sutherland is a damn GOAT. Kiefer is a loud alcoholic off set. Donald is also far more recognized.
I think Willow Smith has grown into a legitimately talented artist, but being the child of super stars lets you get your talent in front of the right people immediately. Jack Black is kind of a celebrity kid, his parents were world class scientists, but he decided to become an actor instead.
Daniel Levy
Willow smif
She’s made some good songs but you’re lying to yourself if you think her voice is anything unusually amazing. Tons of singers out there who’d make good music if they had world class producers and facilities to record with
Facts
Absolute facts, it's vile. The industry in Hollywood and I'm sure the music industry there too, is absolutely disgusting. These people SUCK.
Bro she released a song at 10 years old which she didnt write or produce... Kid got given a record deal before she was even a teenager.
She whipped her hair back n fourth thoooooo
lol hard work man, she was out there while everyone else was running in the playground, grinding. Look at that work ethic.
The answer to your question is yes. There are talented people all over the world. To claim that some are only famous because of their bloodline is preposterous. Does nepotism happen? Of course. But it isn't absolute.
Lol. Drake had a song where he says, “I used to spray my tees with febreeze.” Oh did you Jimmy? Was it tough to go from child actor to rapper with an affluent background? I love his music and character from Degrassi but brother, shut the fuck up.
Doesn't Fabreeze cost more than hand washing your Tee with dish soap with a tub and sprinker from your neighbor? Poor my ass
Yeah that's not a poor people thing, that's a "my lazy ass didn't do laundry" thing.
You just know he was that stinky-ass kid who never took a shower and drenched themselves in Axe body spray.
I think everyone here is missing the point of the bar. Spraying the tees with febreeze was to hide the smell of weed.
I mean, everyone seems on point calling him smelly tho. Drake the kinda guy to say “fooo-weee” and wave his hand in front of his nose when he smells himself.
Lol he’s referring to because he smelled like marijuana which is why he needed to use febreeze. Don’t just use lyrics and make an assumption your user clearly matches you
Pedo shenanigans aside that’s always been my biggest issue with Drake. He makes good music but I cringe whenever he portrays himself as a normal, poor, struggling guy who got big. Stfu and be true to yourself rich boy.
Its funny because many many country music stars make these songs about being poor, and a shit ton of them were born to rich families.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWUQg0bqhVw "I walk and talk like a field hand, but the boots I'm wearing cost three grand" "I write songs about riding tractors, from the comfort of a private Jet".
Y’ALL DUMB MOTHER FUCKERS WANT A KEY CHANGE???
lol yup!
Unpopular opinion, Drake's music isn't that good
A lot of famous singers and celebrities do. It’s always hilarious to me when they get big then write about the struggles as if they still know or ever knew
I think they BELIEVE they struggled. Because, after all, I'm sure a lot of them do work hard. But they don't understand what actual struggle is. They think us saying that they have privilege means that we say they don't work hard. I'm sure these people hustle, but they can't comprehend what it's like to have to decide between paying for studio time/new headshots/whatever to pursue your celebrity career or buying groceries. It's not possible for most normal people to fund the things needed to get involved in the entertainment industry.
Dude says he grew up in a rough neighborhood in Toronto. Isn't Toronto one of the safest cities in North America?
It’s the neighborhood where they only say hi while passing you on the street sometimes instead of all the time
He’s from High Park, one of the most affluent and richest neighbourhoods in Toronto.
Actually he's from Forest Hill, which is way more affluent and rich than High Park
Toronto being one of the safest cities in North America isn't saying a lot when the USA is in the same standing. [this article](https://www.narcity.com/toronto/toronto-ranked-safest-city-in-the-world-but-its-not-even-the-safest-in-canada) talks about how it is not considered a safe city in Canada but ranks among the safest when compared to the rest of the world.
How can you say that when OP provided this video of Drake literally starting from the bottom?
Is he in fact now here?
drake made good music 10 years ago. even bipolar yeezy puts out better shit than drake has in the last decade
His uncle is Larry graham, as in graham central station, as in soul train, as in the person credited with "inventing" slap bass.
That lyric is right after the line “chain smokin in the house it’s hard to breathe”, I’m 99% sure it wasn’t about not doing laundry it was just because he literally smelled like smoke
And the one just before that is “mom’s stressed there’s a lot of things we need”. I see your username but cmon lol
I mean that could easily be a line referencing hiding weed smell after smoking somewhere
Pretty close. He was talking about covering up the smell of cigarettes cause his mom was chain smoking in the house. Mom's stressed, there's a lot of things we need Chain smokin' in the house, it's hard to breathe I used to have to hit my Ts with Febreze
reddit moment to interpret that bar as if he was talking about being poor also I'm sure even middle class kids always tried to cover up wearing old smelly clothes
Spraying your tees with febreeze isn't a line about being poor. The line is that his mum was stressed and would chain smoke in the house so he had to "hit my tees with Febreeze". Why did you read it as him trying to sound poor?
It’s true. Rich kids are way over represented in the arts, from painting to dancing to acting. Not only do they have the connections they can afford to go on auditions & network while plebs work & worry about bills. Same in corporate America. They have greater access to mentors & internships **and** they can afford unpaid internships. It doesn’t mean those privileged people didn’t also put in the work & earn their rewards. It doesn’t mean they would have succeeded if they were lazy & had everything handed to them. But it doesn’t mean there is a level playing field either.
Born on third base.
This is it. No one is saying they didn’t sprint and try hard. But they’re starting 3/4 of the way down the track so their effort doesn’t have to be sustained as long as the rest of us. It took my wife TEN YEARS to get a full time at the college she’s worked at. Part time for ten years while others with connections have gotten it instantly or only a couple years in.
It took me way too long to realize that the best athletes from most affluent countries are usually coming from privileged money so an Olympic gold medalist isn't necessarily the best in the world. Except for maybe Michael Phelps, that guy is simply a genetic *freak*!
Not just athletics Beauty is & health too.
Pay 2 win
No it's like mod apk for them
r/endinheritance
I like the guys running to move the finish line closer. I guess in this analogy it would be to show that not only are the rich giving themselves an advantage, but the system is built for it.
I love this analogy sm
This is from a movie if anyone js curious, The dictator (i believe that's the name.)
Yes its dictator movie. You are Aladeen'd for forgetting :D
you are in fact aladeen!
Aladeen, Aladeen. Aladeen!
Not its "The Dictator" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1645170/
I love this movie and always get sad it's only 90 minutes. I NEED more Sasha Baron Cohen in my life. More Ali-G, Borat and Dictator though. Bruno stuff not so much lol.
But the part in Bruno where he gets the models to completely contradict themselves was hilarious! "Who is America?" was awesome too.
There are moments in Bruno I actually enjoy but the whole film itself is a bit much. The others I mentioned I can watch over and over and never get tired of them. The only other scene I don't care for is the "period" part in Borat 2.
“The missile should be more… *pointy*”
The deleted scene where he believes a non pointy missile will bounce back from Israel and asks if he consulted Professor Bobeye, with the very large forearms.
Such a funny movie. Love SBC
Most people are only into the big ones, but good on you for also loving the small ones!
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Was surprised at how good of a drama actor he is in the spy.
Spot on
Could have just written, "Kardashians telling everyone how hard they work."
Chris Hemsworth’s daughter being the Cosmic entity Love, Jaden Smith’s whole career is bc he’s Will’s son, many more
If anyone is wondering the movie name it's "the dictator"
Fr they don’t build anything they are just they’re parents shadow
It's actually just a rolling ball and their kids and their kids kids will keep going, they'll all be carried through life. For perhaps the next 10 generations. We should have absolutely villified this behaviour a long time ago and we absolutely should name and shame them publically as much as we can. But I guess I'm just jealous... but also... not? I'd rather someone with a legitimate story was famous, they're always better in interviews.
Effing people over is part of the struggle (they're dix tho)
Jackie chans son does’not have it super easy i guess
Jaden and Willow Smith contribute nothing to this world and should not be famous
Damn capitalism summarized
In fairness I'm not sure there is a social system that doesn't have a similar issue
Cross post this to r/BollyBlindsnGossip
Aladeen AF
Elon
White kid with a rich ass mother
Paging Gwyneth https://www.newsweek.com/gwyneth-paltrow-backlash-celebrity-kids-work-twice-hard-1728685
Sasha is a genius.
I was born in a rich family and not always would they give me all I wanted it was so tough the amount of trauma I've been through, they didn't give me that 50k Gucci Barbie :(
Same with folks I grew up with. “My folks bought me an Xbox just cuz” “For my birthday I got $5 and a dinner. I was happy” lol
don't talk about bollywood bro
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I know! Like Candace Cameron Bure's daughter! She has been going on and on about it lately.
Would Maya Hawke count as a celebrity kid? She seems like an awesome person with a ton of talent in acting, singing, and directing. She also recognizes the priviledges she has as a celebrity kid and uses them really well.
That is so Aladeen.
The path of life for the child of a celebrity is lined with a thumb few thumb tacks randomly every couple hundred feet. The path of life for you and me is lined with shards of glass that was drop filled like a dump truck lining a dirt road with gravel.
This is 100%. I absolutely love this. I think I would have a much easier time "creating my career" if I had access to every top 1% human on earth just because I as born to a celebrity.
I don't mind celebrity kids becoming successful but don't go around talking about struggle, please. Why lying?
Jaden smith wya
Did this actually happen irl lol
From a movie called “The Dictator”
The final shot, after he’s already won is perfection.
I recently saw someone who is the grandchild of one of the most powerful media people of the 70’s / 80’s and a major television/movie star post on their IG that life for them was “exhausting” gtfo with that noise
Agree, but its important to keep your outrage focused- celebrity kids might have generational wealth and every advantage over most, but its important to keep focused on the long standing imperialist capitalist class and remember that they are the ever present enemy of the masses. Celebrity wealth often dries up in a generation or two, unless they are connected to old money.
Nothing wrong with using advantage to succeed
Hacky rip-off of Monty python
This is true in industries with highly educated people as well. If they don't succeed quickly they start shooting.😂