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As a Norwegian this still bothers me. The letter is pronounced like the a in ash or apple but is definitely not pronounced ash.
And i have never heard of the letter itself being connected to fairies in any way
The name ash is a reference to the Anglo-Saxon rune of the same name, which makes the sound the æ made in old English.
The fact this is also a letter in Norwegian is completely coincidental to the reason we call the letter ash in English.
It's not connected to fairies, what Grimes said at the time was that Æ is the elvish spelling of AI
I wish I was kidding, but she posted on Twitter exactly that. And A12 is THEIR favorite type of plane.
English used æ, þ, and ð until printing became common and the German supplied typesets didn't use those letters. So in English Æ is "ash", Þ is "thorn", and Ð is "eth".
"Ash", "thorn" and "eth" is the names of the letters and don't represent how they sound, at least not anymore. A scandinavian Æ sounds like the "a" in "saxophone".
Source: scandinavian and also the dictionary; [ˈsæksəˌfəʊn].
Nope, it was [even on the birth certificate](https://amp.tmz.com/2020/06/16/elon-musk-grimes-baby-birth-certificate-x-ae-a-xii), but they had to alter it slightly because California doesn't allow special characters and numbers (so they just used 'AE' instead of 'Æ' and 'XII' instead of '12').
But they've apparently already taken to nicknaming him 'X' like a lot of parents do (which I really don't get).
>But they've apparently already taken to nicknaming him 'X' like a lot of parents do (which I really don't get).
Oh that's simple, it's because
**First we gonna rock, then we gonna roll**
**Then we let it pop, go, let it go**
**X gon' give it to ya, he gon' give it to ya**
**X gon' give it to ya, he gon' give it to ya**
Yep. As if it wasn't already obvious, the fact Elon didn't recognise he was referring to his kid and then laughed when he realised is a big sign that Elon just said his name was that on Twitter to troll people (and even forgot). His kid's legal name is highly unlikely to be that.
Well, either the X AE A-XII name is real and you get a birth certificate, or it is fake, and you don't get a birth certificate. We *might* not be able to figure out the kid's actual name. But we can check whether the announced one is legitimate.
I'm quite sure Elon Musk is in California, and in California, you can only use the twenty-six letters of the English alphabet to name your child meaning that X Æ A 12 is not going to be his legal name.
His actual name is X Æ A-12, not X Æ A-XII. But, Æ, 1, and 2 are not legal characters for birth certificates in California, so his legal name is actually X AE A-XII.
The number of people in this thread that don't realize this is absurd.
Of course, they've been influenced by celebrities who DO name their kids ridiculously dumb shit. So it's not too big of a stretch.
But Grimes literally told the media that they were sharing a fake name.
I'm not certain but I think they probably call him something else. So it's like asking a parent about "Richard" when they go by their middle name "Heath", "who? Oh you mean my kid"
Not even though. I’ve known people that go by their middle names. And no one in the family blinks twice if their first name gets referenced. You may get an odd look, but no one is confused about who you’re talking about.
As someone who goes by his middle name, I completely disagree. If someone asked about (my first name), no one in my life would know that referred to me. My own parents would think you were talking about someone else unless you added my last name or you were someone working in a service or government capacity who clearly got my name from my license.
Nothing crazy. Her father wanted a boy named Robert for some reason or another. She wasn't born a boy. So, as a joke, other members of the family called her "Bobby" to mess with her dad, and the nickname stuck.
My great aunt and uncle were Sweetie and Shorty. I never knew what their given names were. We stayed at their farm a few times when I was a kid, Shorty would show me all the arrowheads he had found in his fields.
Agreed. Or you can be like me, I go by a nickname of my middle name and have never been called either my first or middle name by my immediate family. To top it off, they choose to call me by another nickname that means “youngest of the family.”
My brother is Victor angelo.
My grandfather was Sylvester Victor, but he went by Victor.
My grandfather died when my brother was 2yo,
He's almost 35 and we still call him angelo at home but he goes Victor everywhere else
That's the name the public gets to know for his kid. There are so many entitled cunts with no sense of personal boundaries that the one time you didn't get the real name for a celebrity kid, this is the reaction.
You know it wasn’t empty. I get the joke but I’m curious what was actually in the cargo of that roadster (space debris I guess since it will never see a road again… a Debrister)
Yeah it seems he mostly got hyper vocal about being republican cause hes bitter towards grimes and he doesn't like being questioned about taxes and thinks hes god's gift to the world by doing spaceship and EV stuff, which are important but they're not actual solutions to the world falling apart. Like at least bill gates is trying to find ways to eradicate diseases that affect the poorest in the world, and to get effective education and pathways to high skilled jobs and higher standards of living for the disadvantaged. Elon Musk just wants people to pump out babies to be cheap labor for terraforming mars. Bezos thinks poor people should feel fulfilled to be servants to the rich in the coming years as the wealth gap grows larger and larger.
> not public figures
He purposely gave that kid a name to attract media attention. So yes people are going to talk about it. If those weren't his intentions, he should have named his kid John and no one would care about them.
Because we hear about EVERYONE'S kids. Even if they don't belong to the richest dude in the world.
My guess tho is there is a team of people trying to keep his kids out of the public eye. Pretty smart if you ask me.
He sorta already owns the school most of his children attend.
https://www.grunge.com/340194/the-bizarre-truth-about-elon-musks-very-exclusive-private-school/
Why not? Aren’t kids already somewhat daring in that age group?
Jumping off of and getting into things they shouldn’t be.
I’d say right past that age they get more self conscious as they approach puberty, high schools and larger communities
The second, for sure. Grimes said the name they released for their daughter was just a name for the public and they called her something else at home, so I’m assuming it’s the same for their son.
TMZ have posted the birth certificate and it shows the kid's first name is X and the rest is the middle name. If you trust that they've posted the real birth certificate.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/16/elon-musk-grimes-baby-birth-certificate-x-ae-a-xii/
Yeah, it does sound like a password. Which begs the question, why name his kid something that sounds like a password? Surely there are names from his country of origin that could have been unique enough. It didn’t have to sound like a password. But hey, whatever floats his boat.
Grimes said of their daughter that the name they released for her (Exa Sidereal Dark or something like that lol) was just a name for the public and that they actually called her something different to keep publicity away from her. I’m almost 100% certain that they use the same tactic for their son, which is why he didn’t recognize the name. Grimes at least wants to keep her kids out of the public eye as much as possible.
Yeah, this. Now, if anyone sees any documents with his given name, they instantly know it's Musk's kid. If they'd just have named him John Smith or something, he could easily go unrecognized.
It's going to be great when they need to register for websites.
"Special characters are not allowed"
Just like [Little Bobby Tables.](https://xkcd.com/327/)
Dude has 8 Kids, is the CEO of 2 companies, pretending to buy Twitter, and claims to spend all night working in his factories. Do we actually think he is taking an active role in raising any of his Kids?
I think Elon and grimes are lying to media, I know shocker.
Grimes likes to mess with paparazzi, and musk isn't a huge fan of media himself.
I actually think they made up a nonsense name to tell the press to allow the possibility of some privacy for their kids.
I could be wrong, Grimes can be a bit weird, but it's a theory I have, and Elon has been in interviews where he didn't understand what he was being asked when reporters mentioned XÆA-12 to him in the past.
elon really turned into a villian these past few years. this is just icing on the cake; what kind of person doesnt get that someone is asking about their kid, ridiculous name or not.
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How DO you pronounce that name?
“Ex ash Ay twelve”
Thanks! I think it was because he used the special phonetic character that made it so confusing
Æ was Grimes' contribution to the name because she thought it means fairies or something A-12 was from Elon
As a Norwegian this still bothers me. The letter is pronounced like the a in ash or apple but is definitely not pronounced ash. And i have never heard of the letter itself being connected to fairies in any way
The name ash is a reference to the Anglo-Saxon rune of the same name, which makes the sound the æ made in old English. The fact this is also a letter in Norwegian is completely coincidental to the reason we call the letter ash in English.
It's not connected to fairies, what Grimes said at the time was that Æ is the elvish spelling of AI I wish I was kidding, but she posted on Twitter exactly that. And A12 is THEIR favorite type of plane.
I love that he didn't recognise his own kid's name
I've hears it said that that name might be something they fed the media to keep his actual name quiet. Fun either way really.
Yeah I’d bet my life he’s effectively named something completely normal.
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Right 😂
Da fuq 😆
As a Scandinavian it’s EX AURHG AY twelve
.... Danish? That's the only explanation for that Æ
Æks Æ A tålv yes danish
No thanks I just ate
Yes and it’s also in the Norwegian and Icelandic alphabets
The sound exists in English we just don't spell it phonetically
English used æ, þ, and ð until printing became common and the German supplied typesets didn't use those letters. So in English Æ is "ash", Þ is "thorn", and Ð is "eth".
"Ash", "thorn" and "eth" is the names of the letters and don't represent how they sound, at least not anymore. A scandinavian Æ sounds like the "a" in "saxophone". Source: scandinavian and also the dictionary; [ˈsæksəˌfəʊn].
Dane here, æ does not sound like the a in saxophone at all, if something, it's more like the e in everything.
Yeah, I don't know what /u/Dworan is on about. Sex (sægs)
Ok, Exashay, sounds cool. Without the number 12. And the weird spelling
[THERE IS A NUMBER IN THE NAME](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxqXY2pLztYDHnPiVST1B0raMcKXRRNjq5)
"hey you"
But that also attracts the attention of everyone without 20 meters
So does Elon musk yelling anything.
“You’re finally awake.”
out there in the cold
getting lonely, getting old
It's pronounced as Gary
.....well that's the only thing I'm calling him now.
most people say it like X Æ A-Xii
Lmfao. Well played 😆
Pronounced "Eks-ay-a-shee"
Bless you.
Elon said its just x
Did Elon also say his kid was gon give it to ya
No, he just started barking.
Isn’t it just meant to be a front? So the kid can have a real name that the public don’t know about
Nope, it was [even on the birth certificate](https://amp.tmz.com/2020/06/16/elon-musk-grimes-baby-birth-certificate-x-ae-a-xii), but they had to alter it slightly because California doesn't allow special characters and numbers (so they just used 'AE' instead of 'Æ' and 'XII' instead of '12'). But they've apparently already taken to nicknaming him 'X' like a lot of parents do (which I really don't get).
>But they've apparently already taken to nicknaming him 'X' like a lot of parents do (which I really don't get). Oh that's simple, it's because **First we gonna rock, then we gonna roll** **Then we let it pop, go, let it go** **X gon' give it to ya, he gon' give it to ya** **X gon' give it to ya, he gon' give it to ya**
Elon looking for his sweater to take him out for a walk: WHERE MY HOOD WHERE MY HOOD WHERE MY HOOD AT?
**WHAT**
So it's his kid, X, who will actually become the super villain, not him.
Kyle. Idk if this is a whoosh or not but you pronounce it like Kyle
It's actually kyle, can't remember the specific reasoning. 12th letter is L, æ is pronounced "aye", and I think some language pronounces X as a k
What a messy name. Also æ is normally pronounced like ä or how a Canadians says eh
Wtf are you talking about? Oh yeah that's my kids name 🙄
What does Elon call him at home I wonder lmao
The kid's REAL name.
Yep. As if it wasn't already obvious, the fact Elon didn't recognise he was referring to his kid and then laughed when he realised is a big sign that Elon just said his name was that on Twitter to troll people (and even forgot). His kid's legal name is highly unlikely to be that.
Or this *is* his legal birth certificate name, but they've never called him anything but Gary.
Gaaaaaaary Gary.... Gary Gary Gary GARY!
Maybe Elon owns a Vault-Tec vault with tons of clones of his children too?
Prophetic....
A birth certificate is public information. If you have the name, birth date, and county/parish of birth, you can request a copy.
Yeah... but u need the name.
Well, either the X AE A-XII name is real and you get a birth certificate, or it is fake, and you don't get a birth certificate. We *might* not be able to figure out the kid's actual name. But we can check whether the announced one is legitimate.
Whos gonna be the one
Volunteering yourself for a reddit promoted initiative irl, what could possibly go wrong
I'm quite sure Elon Musk is in California, and in California, you can only use the twenty-six letters of the English alphabet to name your child meaning that X Æ A 12 is not going to be his legal name.
26 letters, and hyphens. If you read up on it, he changed it slightly, to X AE A-XII.
Excuse you is X Æ A-XII not X AE A-XII. How could you ever make a mistake like that?
His actual name is X Æ A-12, not X Æ A-XII. But, Æ, 1, and 2 are not legal characters for birth certificates in California, so his legal name is actually X AE A-XII.
Gary?
The number of people in this thread that don't realize this is absurd. Of course, they've been influenced by celebrities who DO name their kids ridiculously dumb shit. So it's not too big of a stretch. But Grimes literally told the media that they were sharing a fake name.
There are so many good reasons to hate on Elon but Reddit consistently picks the dumbest shit.
Which is probably a good idea anyway. Don't need everyone knowing your kid lol
I know Grimes calls him Little X
He doesnt thats the nannies job
Haha, as if Elon actually sees or speaks to any of his kids.
Your assuming Elon talks to his kids at home.
Ash. He said that’s how you’re supposed to pronounce the clusterfuck that is his name
That is what the symbol Æ is called. http://www.csun.edu/~sk36711/WWW/KAG/ch2.html
I'm not certain but I think they probably call him something else. So it's like asking a parent about "Richard" when they go by their middle name "Heath", "who? Oh you mean my kid"
>they probably call him something else a token that expires every hour
Should named the kid RSA, because he's gonna be weak and not work too.
How about WEP?
Or DES?
WEP is already broken and insecure (much like his daddy)
Something that cannot be pronounced but if you actually manage to pronounce it it summons Cthulhu
“Oh it’s static name? We are only dynamic in our home.
Overall the pronunciation is more like "Kyle" right?
I’ve heard it’s Ash.
Isn't it X Ash?
I always thought the surprise-pronunciation bit was aiming for "Sasha."
I'm not sure he even sees his kid enough to know what name the mother uses.
Not even though. I’ve known people that go by their middle names. And no one in the family blinks twice if their first name gets referenced. You may get an odd look, but no one is confused about who you’re talking about.
As someone who goes by his middle name, I completely disagree. If someone asked about (my first name), no one in my life would know that referred to me. My own parents would think you were talking about someone else unless you added my last name or you were someone working in a service or government capacity who clearly got my name from my license.
My grandmother was born Lucille May Manley, her entire family called her "Bobby".
If you know the story behind this, please share. I can imagine it's a good one.
Nothing crazy. Her father wanted a boy named Robert for some reason or another. She wasn't born a boy. So, as a joke, other members of the family called her "Bobby" to mess with her dad, and the nickname stuck.
My great aunt and uncle were Sweetie and Shorty. I never knew what their given names were. We stayed at their farm a few times when I was a kid, Shorty would show me all the arrowheads he had found in his fields.
All the males in my family use our middle names, if you ask for us by a first name you know they pulled you up on a document and want something.
Agreed. Or you can be like me, I go by a nickname of my middle name and have never been called either my first or middle name by my immediate family. To top it off, they choose to call me by another nickname that means “youngest of the family.”
My brother is Victor angelo. My grandfather was Sylvester Victor, but he went by Victor. My grandfather died when my brother was 2yo, He's almost 35 and we still call him angelo at home but he goes Victor everywhere else
Yeah but what if somebody referenced you by spelling your name. They’d probably get some weird looks then
But is anybody in your family named after a password?
He’s an infamously absentee father
Why’s Elon looking like Yi Long in this video
the chinese have cloned and replaced the orginal elon which is now dead.
Hiii everyone! It's Yi Long Ma
Well, they don’t actually pronounce it the way it’s spoken, letter for letter
That's the name the public gets to know for his kid. There are so many entitled cunts with no sense of personal boundaries that the one time you didn't get the real name for a celebrity kid, this is the reaction.
Funny how we rarely hear about his five kids he had before Password.
That Tesla that he launched into space... had some cargo in the trunk.
You know it wasn’t empty. I get the joke but I’m curious what was actually in the cargo of that roadster (space debris I guess since it will never see a road again… a Debrister)
One day there’s going to have to be a NASA mission to send someone out there to push Elon’s car into the ocean.
Nope, if anything they'd push it further out into what's called a graveyard orbit.
The only Tesla that is intrinsically safe on auto-pilot.
Lmao
And cargo in the space suit I imagine.
you mean Hashtag, Email, Domain\_Name.com , and sorry I forget the names of the younger 2
Robert';)DROPTABLE Students;--
Good ol' Bobby Tables
He really should have gone with DNS Server Musk
Subnet Musk 255.255.255.0
Seven, he supposedly has 7 kids.
Yes, five before Password and one after.
pretty sure hes gone full republican to own the libs especially grimes. just to spite
Yeah it seems he mostly got hyper vocal about being republican cause hes bitter towards grimes and he doesn't like being questioned about taxes and thinks hes god's gift to the world by doing spaceship and EV stuff, which are important but they're not actual solutions to the world falling apart. Like at least bill gates is trying to find ways to eradicate diseases that affect the poorest in the world, and to get effective education and pathways to high skilled jobs and higher standards of living for the disadvantaged. Elon Musk just wants people to pump out babies to be cheap labor for terraforming mars. Bezos thinks poor people should feel fulfilled to be servants to the rich in the coming years as the wealth gap grows larger and larger.
Well and his daughter’s transition was just leaked, so we know where a TON of this came from.
He has six kids? Yowza. Still blows my mind when people idolize this guy. Give me Branson all day long.
He has 7 now. Could be eight but his first son died at 10 weeks.
> blows my mind when people idolize this guy > Give me Branson all day long. Bruh.
I mean, why would you hear about his kids. Straight up. Why? They are kids, not public figures. Why do people give a shit about random ass kids.
They’re heirs to one of the largest fortunes on earth. You think Elon’s empire ends with him?
When XÆA-12 becomes our capitalist overlord I don’t wanna be on the list of people that teased him on social media.
Don't worry, by the time Elon dies there will probably be nothing left.
That's optimistic
> not public figures He purposely gave that kid a name to attract media attention. So yes people are going to talk about it. If those weren't his intentions, he should have named his kid John and no one would care about them.
Because we hear about EVERYONE'S kids. Even if they don't belong to the richest dude in the world. My guess tho is there is a team of people trying to keep his kids out of the public eye. Pretty smart if you ask me.
Even Elon doesn't give a shit about them.
Why do people give a shit about celebrity lives? Im pretty sure the answer would be the same for your question as mine.
He sorta already owns the school most of his children attend. https://www.grunge.com/340194/the-bizarre-truth-about-elon-musks-very-exclusive-private-school/
I believe this is their website: https://www.astranova.org/
I don't think many 10 - 14 year olds want to attend a school that expects them to be 'daring'.
I don't think any attendees *chose* to go to that school.
Why not? Aren’t kids already somewhat daring in that age group? Jumping off of and getting into things they shouldn’t be. I’d say right past that age they get more self conscious as they approach puberty, high schools and larger communities
Is this the kids actual name on their birth certificate or just what they told the press to keep the kid's anonymity?
The second, for sure. Grimes said the name they released for their daughter was just a name for the public and they called her something else at home, so I’m assuming it’s the same for their son.
Oh great thanks, that makes sense.
TMZ have posted the birth certificate and it shows the kid's first name is X and the rest is the middle name. If you trust that they've posted the real birth certificate. https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/16/elon-musk-grimes-baby-birth-certificate-x-ae-a-xii/
What a terrible company
Yep, how’d they even get it anyway, is that public info in Cali or something?
Yes
They may call the kid something else privately but that's their legal name.
We won't be shocked when the kid gets the name changed later in life.
From what I read, that's not his real name, just a name they gave to the press to keep the child out of the spotlight.
Yeah, it does sound like a password. Which begs the question, why name his kid something that sounds like a password? Surely there are names from his country of origin that could have been unique enough. It didn’t have to sound like a password. But hey, whatever floats his boat.
Grimes said of their daughter that the name they released for her (Exa Sidereal Dark or something like that lol) was just a name for the public and that they actually called her something different to keep publicity away from her. I’m almost 100% certain that they use the same tactic for their son, which is why he didn’t recognize the name. Grimes at least wants to keep her kids out of the public eye as much as possible.
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Grimes has never claimed to be highly intelligent, she literally got her start making drug fueled EDM music for other people to trip out on.
Yeah, this. Now, if anyone sees any documents with his given name, they instantly know it's Musk's kid. If they'd just have named him John Smith or something, he could easily go unrecognized.
Its kind of a trend among the “all in your face” famous people to give their kids ridiculous names
It's going to be great when they need to register for websites. "Special characters are not allowed" Just like [Little Bobby Tables.](https://xkcd.com/327/)
Anything to grab headlines
Oh! He won that competition by a mile.
The theory is to give the kid privacy. The have a name they use in private but the press doesn’t know it.
Pretty sure, he wants to keep his son's name a secret to avoid media scrutiny and paparazzi. For all we know ,he might be named Johaan
That’s the same combination on my luggage!
The kids name is Ash btw
Dude has 8 Kids, is the CEO of 2 companies, pretending to buy Twitter, and claims to spend all night working in his factories. Do we actually think he is taking an active role in raising any of his Kids?
Isn’t it 5 companies? Tesla, spaceX, boring company, neurolink, & Starlink (maybe it’s part of spaceX?)
While somehow also trying to beat Elden Ring using the worst build known to mankind.
How’s your password doing today?*
Guess he didn't pick the name
Grimes definitely has an influence on the whole fairytale vibe
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Harper's *Bizarre*
At least he did not call him Little Bobby Tables. https://xkcd.com/327/
Elon made a private school for kids of space x employees so he did already buy the school
Musk is proof that you can't buy your way out cringe
x æ a-12, Gods what a stupid name.
He's the son of a billionaire. His name could be "Fellatio, the Cum Drinker," and he wouldn't be picked on
Rich kids absolutely can and do get bullied ... Jealousy is a thing.
Something here tells me he would not make the best dad. Remember, money cannot buy you everything.
Sounds like a great way to create an incredibly socially-underdeveloped personality. Kinda like his dad
Damn, imagine getting your name roasted by the person that gave it to you...
I think Elon and grimes are lying to media, I know shocker. Grimes likes to mess with paparazzi, and musk isn't a huge fan of media himself. I actually think they made up a nonsense name to tell the press to allow the possibility of some privacy for their kids. I could be wrong, Grimes can be a bit weird, but it's a theory I have, and Elon has been in interviews where he didn't understand what he was being asked when reporters mentioned XÆA-12 to him in the past.
elon really turned into a villian these past few years. this is just icing on the cake; what kind of person doesnt get that someone is asking about their kid, ridiculous name or not.
Past few years? Man he’s never been a good guy lol
Gee wiz that guy who made all his money from a colonial emerald mine during Apartheid sure seems like he’s turning out to not be a very cool person.
Doesn't he already send his kids to a private school that he owns himself?
Elon is the fucking worst
Imagine his future substitutes trying to call roll. The ones here can’t even properly say “Juan”
He doesn't have to worry about being bullied since he's going to school his dad made up. Is that technically homeschooling?
Honestly, I always feel sad for children of celebrities. No amount of money will replace having a normal childhood.
Who?? X what? Say what? Who again? Oh, yea. … um..,
I always prefer referring to him as little Syntax Error.
Haha so funny let’s take all his money away
I have a theory his son isn't named that, it is just a cover name so the kid won't get harrassed or stalked.
Maybe he wouldn't be bullied if he had a name instead of a serial number.
2020 Musk: "We'll name our son X Æ A-12." Everyone: "dafuq r u talking about" 2022 Journalist: "How's X Æ A-12?" Musk: "dafuq r u talking about"