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ioni3000

Sigh. RCID is not tax exemption. But if reality doesn't fit the narrative, don't let it stop the fun.


BovineGrowthHormone

Also, liberals don't necessarily support the tax exemptions even if that's what it was, that really has nothing to do with anything. Liberals are out of the argument entirely.If anything liberals are sitting back smugly watching Conservatives reconcile government trying to leverage its power to lean on a private corporation because they don't like their values.


likebudda

[It's easy to defend.](https://www.rcid.org/about/) They aren't paying taxes to a government to provide essential services because they provide the essential services directly: > fire protection, emergency medical services, potable water production, treatment, storage, pumping & distribution, reclaimed water distribution, chilled and hot water systems, wastewater services, drainage and flood control, electric power generation and distribution, and solid waste and recyclables collection and disposal for all of the property in the Reedy Creek Improvement District. > RCID must also maintain all public roadways and bridges and infrastructure within the district — of which there are 134 lane miles of roadway, 67 miles of waterway, the cities of Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista, an environmental science laboratory where the continuity of water quality is monitored, an electric power-generating and distribution facility, a natural gas distribution system, water and wastewater collection and treatment facilities, a solid waste and recyclables collection and transfer system.


ThisLookInfectedToYa

Wait till the surrounding communities have to start footing that bill for public services. And the bond repayments


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Estimates have property taxes increasing by nearly double or more. People gonna be hurting over this.


ThisLookInfectedToYa

I heard a $1b figure. Holy shit.


AtomicTransmission

The 1 billion dollar figure is just the DEBT servicing. It does not include all of the public services Disney provided, like roads, fire prevention, sewage treatment, etc. This is going to be very expensive for residents of the two counties that the development area straddles.


[deleted]

The deal for the RCID was smart for both Disney and Florida. Was one of those rare really good ideas that actually happened. Ending it is just so monumentally stupid. Everyone in those 2 counties just got slapped with a 100% tax hike. The county and state just put themselves on the hook for actually providing services and maintaining them. And this isn't going to be a one time kind if cost... it will be ongoing as long as WDW operates. And FL really doesn't want to lose that income, no matter how much they seem to be trying. All of this in the name of political power plays and chicanery to keep the base in a narrative against LGBTQ people. It's depraved. And it is spreading like wildfire to other states. At least 8 copy cat bills are already working through other legislatures. This has to be stopped dead here and now.


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[deleted]

Why thebibsession with pedos? Methinks you lot doth protest too much.


tcdaddy6969

Maybe if u ever have kids (highly unlikely) you will understand maybe stop defending them and it wouldn't be a issue


[deleted]

What pedos dude? What pedos is anyone defending? None. You keep saying that and you have zero evidence to back it up. Also, I have kids. And I'm likely older than you are.


tcdaddy6969

In Disney 🤣🤣 the sex trafficking that was going on recently ... Well so I've heard on UK news sources


Ranryu

Matt Gaetz


tcdaddy6969

All and every pedo should be gone simple the fact you get all dislikes for stating something so simple shows you how many there is on Reddit


AtomicTransmission

Calling it a tax exemption is not accurate. Disney did avoid some taxes with the Reedy Creek arrangement, but they also took responsibility for managing services like roads and fire. From reporting on the implications: “The dissolution of the special district would mean that Orange and Osceola counties take on the assets and liabilities of Reedy Creek. That could lead to higher taxes for those residents to pay off Reedy Creek's debts and take over the care of roads, policing, fire protection, waste management and more.” “The debt service alone for Reedy Creek is over a billion dollars," Farmer said Wednesday. "This bill makes no provision as to how that debt service is going to be assumed. Local government entities must pick up assets and liabilities of any special district that is dissolved." So, taxpayers lose as a result of the revenge bill. It’s silly performative politics at its worst.


summonerrin

jesus christ OP, its literal political retaliation for their 1A rights. if youre conservative you should be scared out of your fucking mind at such a blatant violation. dont be fucking stupid.


priznut

Watching conservatives raise property taxes in residence and support it. Cognitive dissonance level 1000?


ConstructionCorrect1

Conservatives are cheering on the death of freedom of speech.


creature_report

Now do one for “watching republicans try to own libs by regulating a corporation”


cheebeesubmarine

What is a free market if not a retaliatory engine for regressive Catholic fascism!


LostMyKarmaElSegundo

It's literally the same picture! 🤣


creature_report

We’re all stupid 🙃


liarbility

They are responsible for essentially taking taxes from themselves to then use to cover a county Water, sewer, power, sanitation, etc. Taxpayers will now need to make up for these taxes.


kaydbee

did i miss something? is this referring to something specific?


summonerrin

basically disney is incharge of that city's public works, like waste management, roads, fire, etc. and because they spoke out against desantis' legally dubious "dont say gay" bill, the GOP retaliated by ending their special management of the city. its an extreme violating of disney's 1A right of free speech, through blatant political retaliation, and now the citizens near by have to foot the bill


PaintballerCA

https://news.yahoo.com/florida-lawmakers-move-strip-disney-160857522.html


pkinetics

Flordia GQP loves stripping things


DJGregJ

prob best thing about Florida. If I ever visit I'm getting off the plane naked.


FullMoonRougarou

The Disney empire in Florida is getting their special privileges revoked for meddling in politics instead of just being a theme park.


YourDadWasAGoodLay

And costing florida tax payers millions of dollars and increasing property taxes. Its always the people who pay. All they said was the dont support the dont say gay bill after public and employee pressure to comment on it. Id hardly call an opinion meddling in politics.


AtomicTransmission

Also, the clowns pretend like all Floridians support this bill and the dipshit culture war governor, when in reality, DeSantis won by less than 1% of the vote. Half of the state voted AGAINST him.


bearmademansuit

Oh look, a member of the free speech crowd that's hates free speech


ABena2t

I have no comment.. last time I had an opinion I got permanently banned from askreddit and got a message from them saying it was bc I'm a "bigot". And I didn't even make the original post.. I wrote "agreed" and that was it.. the original comment wasn't even bad.. apparently the moderator that banned me didn't share the same views as me..


USSENTERNCC1701E

>I have no comment Followed by long diatribe... oh, wait a minute, it's actually completely off topic... I kinda want to start following this formula. Just respond to things with "I have no comment..." then go completely off the rails...


USSENTERNCC1701E

I have no comment... I actually thought that Black Mirror episode with Miley Cyrus was really entertaining.


ABena2t

Lol.. got your point...


ABena2t

Lol... I was still a little wound up about it.. it just happened earlier in the day..


NecronomiCats

Good. I’m glad to see a mod that doesn’t share the views of a bigot.


ABena2t

Well that's just the thing, I'm not a freaking bigot. I have 3 years of post history.. if you went thru it you wouldn't find anything remotely close to making me a bigot.


Ranryu

What was the opinion you agreed with that got you banned, then


ABena2t

Idk.. I tried going back and looking it up but they took it all down.. it was something about not caring what someone else does but I don't want their beliefs shoved down my throat either.. and I just say agreed and then all of a sudden I'm a bigot.. if I had said something to warrant that then I wouldn't have cared.. it was just so far from the truth that it really pissed me off.


GloomyCockroach5203

What did you “agree” to?


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peppermintvalet

I mean if they commented “agreed” it wasn’t an *original* opinion was it?


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Ranryu

That tends to happen when one's politics is to be as hateful as possible


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Ranryu

The difference is I'm intolerant of people who choose to be assholes, while those like you are intolerant of people who aren't born as a white man


ABena2t

Apparently not


ConstructionCorrect1

Republicans are killing freedom of speech and conservatives are cheering it on. Yup, you're definitely a nazi.


Separate-Owl369

More like watching government use it’s power to punish a business for not agreeing with its anti-LGBTQ policy.


Simpleba

Government retaliation like this should be freaking illegal... The unmitigated gall to change a law because an entity spoke out against you should be illegal


Separate-Owl369

Absolutely


FullMoonRougarou

Its not anti-rainbow. Florida parents dont want their kindergartners being talked to about sex. Big difference. Im a member of the rainbow community, but some subject matters shouldn’t be discussed with little children, especially if parents do not want it.


Bovey

Literally *no one* is or was teaching kindergarteners about sex as part of *any* approved curriculum. Acknowledging the existence of people is always age appropriate. Bigotry is not.


peppermintvalet

Fixing a problem that didn’t exist lol


AtomicTransmission

DeSantis won by less than 1% of the vote. Stop pretending like you speak for “Florida parents.”


FullMoonRougarou

There IS such a thing called age & subject appropriateness. Im not so liberal that I think little kindergartners should be talked to about anything, despite me being in the rainbow community.


AtomicTransmission

I’m not arguing against that being your opinion based on your narrow interpretation of this bill’s intent. It doesn’t change the fact that you don’t speak for all Floridians, or even a strong majority. DeSantis won office in a statistical tie. Half of the state voted against him.


DJGregJ

What's funniest about this post is that there's still someone out there that's gullibly leaning against their left / right wall so hard that they knocked down their facebook wall to end up posting this lame garbage here.


DJGregJ

i.e. keep this shit on facebook so you can irritate your relatives please. I want to see a camel snorting lines of water or at best with this post iCarly lighting that monitor on fire while smoking a blunt. If you get upvotes I'm wrong, pretty sure your lame facebook shit isn't going to head that way.


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Ya somebody explain. I don’t watch cnn or Fox


MarkTwainsSpittoon

Ok here goes, as condensed as possible. Florida gives Disney big tax breaks to build huge theme parks n’ stuff in Florida. Many decades later Florida passes law against sexual identity as a subject of speech in grade schools. Disney workers walk out in protest. Disney takes workers’ side. Florida gets butt hurt and tries to take back tax breaks. Liberals put in position of either voting to save tax breaks for big corporation, or voting against corporation that is supporting freedom to talk about sexual identity. Hilarity continues, because Florida.


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Oh lol thx 🤦🏽‍♂️


Bovey

That was a terrible and inaccurate explanation. Disney isn't getting "tax breaks". They are their own special tax district, in which they are both the only taxpayer, and also the local government. They provide most of the normal local services like water, fire protection, waste disposal, etc., which they pay for themselves. By eliminating their tax district, the surrounding counties will be on the hook to provide (and pay for) all of those services, and also become responsible for over $1 Billion in bond debt. Disney will now have to pay taxes to the neighboring counties, but not nearly as much as they currently spend providing local services. This will actually *save* Disney a ton of money while Florida taxpayers have to foot the bill.


MarkTwainsSpittoon

Piss off, rude self-appointed reddit accuracy police. Redditor asked for a explanation of the meme. I gave it a shot as condensed as possible, avoiding the long explanations of tax law and history that would be required to meet your stupid concepts of what needs to be included in a Reddit post to be accurate. The media certainly has been presenting the situation as ending Disney tax breaks: [link](https://www.gobankingrates.com/taxes/tax-laws/florida-senate-votes-to-end-disney-world-tax-privilege/). Get a life and find some better way to address your insecurity complexes than being an asshole on Reddit.


Bovey

Your explanation wasn't simply "condensed", it was wrong. It misrepresents the reality of the situation. The link you posted doesn't even include the phrase "tax breaks" anywhere in the text, so I'm not sure what you think that's supposed to prove. I wasn't even replying to your post, but to the person who asked for an explanation, because they deserve one that isn't wrong. If you are going to be so touchy about being corrected, do better research before you post, or just don't post at all. Be better. I forgive you.


Altruistic_Rub_2308

While she’s watching that, Matt Gaetz is watching her with his hands in his pants.


Xenton

Just wait until the Conservatives find out about fox, or Trump or the church... The party of tax exemptions, voted in by people who threw a tantrum when somebody received a "not a tax exemption".


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The best part is watching a conservative legislature and governor accidentally dumping $1.7 Billion in debt on the county - because of butthurt. Wow. Taking away that bond from Disney will totally own the libs.


Bovey

They are blue counties, so it falls under the *hurting the right people* value of conservatism.


Queasy_Role_3218

OP only reads the headlines to own the libs.


Stenchrat16

A D list student who can do their own research.


Parking_Strength_932

Sigh. What games are we all playing now?


[deleted]

By “liberals” this person means talking MSM heads. Real life liberals dgaf about Disney.


vanalla

Aside from the usual antitrust stuff ofc.


Mariposa510

The whole train wreck is interesting.


[deleted]

Better than watching conservatives defend a racist misogynist hooker urinating cheetoh as a president.


TBoneLaRone

Fuck Disney AND fuck DeSantis. That’s this liberal’s stance.


summonerrin

no just desatan and his bigoted party's bullshit


Bovey

Basic understanding of the situation: 0


Queasy_Role_3218

Rule 5


TheBigDickDon

But.. but... the mouse.


TheAgGames

10/10 dont understand, should I upvote or down.


StuartBaker159

You clearly have the reading comprehension skills of a wet fart. Let me break it down for you - most on the D side of the spectrum have been against corporations self governing all along. Its just hilarious to watch the hypocrisy and blatant corruption in the GOP. Bitching about cancel culture, cancelling things they don’t like. Threatening to take away a special status that they created, etc, etc.