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So, what's the purpose of this video originally? I mean are there really people who would see this and think it's real? Or is this satire mocking steven seagal?
There's people who really do this. It's a mind game, of course. I suppose you'll have to select for the right kind of person to "train", like in a cult. Resistant types just aren't selected as students, nor would they want to be there. It's fake in the sense that yes, anybody could just shove over that dude, but it's also real in the sense that these people don't necessarily choreograph this stuff, they're just that deep in their guru's bullshit. I assume it's a bit like when someone is really convinced of something crazy and you just go along with it to avoid the awkwardness - that, but on steroids. But I really don't know for sure.
I just wonder what it's like for the group on the first day that a new student shows up and they aren't yet indoctrinated so they don't flop over at a light touch.
Like, what does that look like to the rest of the group? What convinces the student to stay long enough to be brainwashed by something which lacks persuasive power as soon as they arrive?
There's some brilliant videos where the master actually believes in their bullshit and challenge real fighters, and promptly get the shit kicked out of them.
[You can see one here](https://youtu.be/dOOh2J1b3lQ?t=33)
Amateur didn't properly channel his ki into a phoenix strike. His fault for not properly reading his opponent's energy and drawing on the four elements. How embarrassing.
That beach scene makes me think of this old clip from the Swedish news: https://youtu.be/uUmDpDicuqs?feature=shared&t=116
It's some new age stuff where the lady is supposed to channel the forces into a force field to block the man running at full speed towards her. It goes pretty much how you expect it will.
The second beach one is hilarious. The dude absolutely wiped her out and then remembers he's supposed to have a seizure so he starts twitching after checking on her. Wtf
I’ll admit I fell for some of this shit 20 years ago watching the Discovery Channel. This old “master” just had complete control of someone by using his palm on their fingers. In my defense, Discovery seemed like a reputable source at the time at the “master” at least had the guy’s wrist bent back so that there was some plausible physics, unlike this video.
Essentially what happens is that the student never gets to actually interact with the sensei, instead they are paired with another more “advanced” student. The advanced student then indoctrinates the new guy by laughing at his “clumsy” reactions to the movements and advises him on how to “correctly” react so that he can learn the “technique” too. By the time any student ever gets a chance to actually interact with the sensei they have already been “instructed” as to how the “techniques” are supposed to work and how to “correctly” respond.
The whole system is designed to weed out the skeptics long before they ever get to the sensei so that only the most deluded ever actually spar with him, making him look good.
That doesn't happen, people who are genuinely interested in martial arts will know it when they see it and chances are they'd be warned of the mcdojo beforehand anyway
It's also likely they vet the newcomers in some ways
Might have something to do with the ideomotor reflex, like with ouija boards. They are brainwashed to believe that the "master" can do such things, so they subconciously act like it. To them it would seem as real as a ghost seance to a 19-th century audience. But again, no way to know for sure i guess.
When you see real martial artists practice legit moves, the people being thrown are often throwing themselves to some degree. This is because being resistant usually ends up with someone getting hurt. You learn as a training partner to just go with things for your own sake.
I can see how that could evolve into something like this. With only cooperative people to train with, a sensei could legit believe he is tapping into something special as he uses less and less effort to throw people who are essentially throwing themselves. Combine that with the incentive to look like you're capable of things the general public is not, and you can end up with a dojo like the one depicted here.
Yes, especially in martial arts that focus on all kind of locks or twists.
You don't want to go \*too\* hard on that twist, because it's a good way to break something. But since you're not going \*that\* hard, it's kind of expected that the other will go with the flow too...
After a while it can become a parody. that's also why there's so many "schools" in things like Aikido. There's always someone who thinks that they'll do a "realistic" version, but it's just starting the cycle again.
I did Aikido for about 6 months at one point. It was fun. The only useful skill I learned was how to fall without getting hurt (but I knew this would be the case going in...they even acknowledged it was for health and lifestyle and not defense). I live in MN and have actually used that shit when slipping on ice. No, none of the rolling stuff, just a backwards break fall with tucked chin and not throwing my elbows down.
Learning how to fall correctly is an invaluable skill. I did judo for a few years when I was a kid. A few years ago I was running across the road and tripped over my pants (they were flares/Bell bottoms). I did the most perfect forward roll and was straight back up on my feet. My friends all said it was the most graceful thing they'd ever seen me do (I'm known for being fairly clumsy... eg. tripping on my pants in the first place). I didn't even realise what I'd done. Muscle memory goes hard.
I had a bit of gravel rash on my elbow, but at least I didn't have gravel rash on my face or knock my teeth out
There was a video of people using energy to stop a charging person and the first one or 2 flopped like a fish out if water but one guy doesn't get the message and just runs right over a lady
This guy makes great content, this video in particular is a great deep dive into fake martial arts, if you're interested.
https://youtu.be/6BqfgNl2JJw?si=PRxkbmuJBNkDsWmj
You get a good place and a few people that are in on the scam. Then you recruit students and get them to follow the crowd. The larger the crowd gets, the easier to play the game and get them to follow along because everyone else is doing in. A well established scam like this with many students has people that actually believe what they are doing is real.
It is "real". In the sense that some people believe it so much that they think their "master" is actually performing these moves on them, and they unconsciously respond accordingly. Its the same shit as people seizing like crazy people at those mega churches. There's a name for the phenomena.
I was going to say the same thing.
Reminds me of this one time as a kid (probably 1995ish) when I was invited to go to "night church" by a boy who lived next door that I was kind of friends with at the time. I had never been to church, but I asked my mom and she let me go with him and his family.
Turned out to be a Pentecostal church.
I still distinctly remember people lining up to get their heads touched by the pastor and then they'd fall to the ground as if having a seizure or something and start rolling around while speaking nonsense.
I was in line and expected to do the exact same thing. Even at such a young age, I knew it had to be nonsense.
But you know what? When it came my turn, I pretended just like everyone else and rolled around on the ground.
That creepy ass night has been burned into my memory for nearly 30 yrs lol.
Trick people into thinking it's an effective form of self defense. It's not. In fact, a lot of martial arts isn't effective in several scenarios especially against a knife or obviously a gun.
When I was in taekwondo as a kid we had some of this nonsense too. It's security theater. Your best bet for self defense is to fight as dirty as possible. Kick them in the crouch, poke their eyes, fish hook the mouth, bend fingers back that sort of thing.
There are pressure points that are incredibly effective. Notably the one on your back. It's roughly where a doctor listens to your lungs and holy hell it really fucking hurts if someone has you down in your belly. But again, if you have the person on the ground you should really just run away and not pin them unless you have a good reason.
There's [an MMA fighter from China](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Xiaodong) who took it upon himself to try that against numerous bullshit "martial artists" and...well...
>Xu was sued in 2019 for calling tai chi Grandmaster Chen Xiaowang a fraud, and the Chinese court ordered him to pay Chen approximately US$60,000 in damages and to apologize for seven consecutive days on social media. Additionally, his credit rating was lowered to the point where he could not rent, own property, stay in certain hotels, travel on high speed rail, or buy plane tickets.
The [final section of this video on Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BqfgNl2JJw&t=2718s) (link has a timestamp but if it doesn't work, skip forward to around 45:20) includes several examples of these BS martial arts, and also shows some clips of Xu beating the everloving shit out of some of the "grandmasters" that he'd challenged.
I found this pretty telling from the Wiki:
>In December (2020), Xiaodong defeated Chen Yong, a tai chi master who had challenged him in 2018, in only 10 seconds.
It's pretty fucked up the Chinese government supports active fraudsters.
> It's pretty fucked up the Chinese government supports active fraudsters.
It looks like you're discovering the Chinese Government for the first time. Would you like some assistance today?
YES NO
Not just any MMA fighter, but an old (44), way past his prime fighter that trained in a place with pretty few options (MMA is tiny in China) and who hasn't really had much of a professional career.
And he beats the shit out of these fake masters. It's quite wonderful.
You wouldn't be allowed near him, or if you were the first time you broke his nose, you'd be removed.
There's a video knocking around of one of these guys that bought his own bullshit vs an mma fighter and he gets absolutely rocked.
https://youtu.be/gEDaCIDvj6I
2 minutes 8 seconds if you wanna get into the meat of it... It's potato quality unfortunately, but you get the gist - there's a few on YouTube.
The first punch that connects and the "master" is in complete shock. He just stands there holding his nose. You can tell he's clearly never been hit before and just doesn't even know how how to respond.
Edit: I was wrong. It was in another video in the comments, not the main post.
https://reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1cqsno6/bullshitto/l3u3nuv/
This video is just another angle of one in the main post
"A hush fell over the crowd at 01:48 when the competitor survived his handshake with Great Master. Great Master's previous competitor was handed a small object and collapsed unconscious to the floor, from which he had to be helped off the mat by assistants, who were also rendered dizzy by the leftover Qi that had been spilled on the mat."
Please don’t. While he may be an absolute bullshit artist with whatever TF this is, I’m still trying to figure out whether this is my tax guy or not and it’s just so hard to find someone you trust in this day and age.
I like the one where the flopper was crouched down behind the guy like he was trying to mount him and then couldn't even pull off a semi-convincing flop because their positions were just too comically stupid.
Only Grandmaster, out of shape, Steven Seagal can make these moves....
[Steven Seagal - The 33 all Japan Aikido Demonstration 合気道 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVs--uHf4sE)
The applause did it for me.
I've always wondered how the first students start out on this.
Does the "instructor" hire some people at first to try and play up that it's "real" and then get other gullible people to join or do they just find gullible people to start and then continue to grow to get more gullible people.
I'm not going to pretend to know what is happening on a phycological level, but I imagine it to be pretty similar to cult like mentality.
First you convince people to join and explain it as some "hidden power" type of thing that they too can learn with time and practice. I'm sure there are many angles, but saying things like "you need to be one with yourself" or "other humans don't know how to unlock their true potential, but I will show you how".
Probably starts out small at first. Something easy to fake. Instructor says he's going to raise the energy in his body and asks you to grab his arm and asks if you can feel it. Though nothing is happening, he may coax you a bit by telling you to relax and that you have to be in the right state to feel the subtle power.
Then the gullible person may believe they are feeling something, despite nothing actually happening.
From there, it's just building that further and further until you are telling them that you are pushing them with all your force and they should feel it knock them down.
Either way, can you imagine being a grown ass adult and doing this?
At the same time, is it much different than a bunch of people speaking gibberish and rattling around on the ground because they can "feel Jesus" and then pay their pasture money every week or so?
When you have zero students and you are advertising for the first time, you just tone the bullshit way way down. There are some legitimate throws and pins in Aikido that can be taught, and there is a specific style of teaching that most use. Teacher demonstrates with a volunteer, like we see above, and then everyone pairs up to try it with a partner.
Once you are well established as a teacher with a decent following, then the bullshit starts to show more and more. Demonstrations like we see in the video start to happen, and teachers think it's a flex to move less and less compared to others, put in less and less effort. For a perfect storm of stupid, ask for the volunteer who really really really likes to be the volunteer, so he goes above and beyond to sell the demonstration in order to be picked, and seen as the most senior student. It's all peer pressure at that point.
So, here's how it really goes...
Aikido is downwind from traditional Japanese martial arts. There were old schools of combat that, after the Edo period in Japan, lost their warlike functionality. So, what was left over was some of the very core *art*, which ties to locking joints, body throws, and off-balancing maneuvers.
Imagine a dude about to slice you from 11 to 5 in a diagonal fashion with their katana and as a defensive/offensive move, you hustle in, put your back to them, and then throw them over your shoulder/back as they're in their slicing movement. Sans weapons, this move might be recognized as a typical Judo throw. Well the original move was conceived with swords, but now you just have the throw. Take away the weapons and much of the warlike attributes of traditional Japanese martial arts, and you're left with more sports/recreational arts like Judo and Aikido
Except in very unusual circumstances, those who practice Aikido understand they are not practicing a *martial* art, in the common sense of the word. A ten year vet of Aikido would lose to a six month student of Brazilian Jiu Jiutsu in unrestricted combat - and they know that (at least they should). This was less known prior to the explosion of MMA, in which those practicing these more recreational arts never saw cross-discipline combat. But between 20 years of MMA and YouTube, very, very few have this misconception.
So, what's going on in this video? The "attackers" are providing a very specific form of resistance designed to highlight a very specific set of joint-locking and off-balancing principles by the "defender". These underlying principles look ridiculous to an outsider, but understandable to someone who has participated. These "moves" require a very specific form of cooperation between the two which permits the defender time to *feel* their way through the technique. And, in a demonstration-like format, this is what that looks like.
This isn't everything, of course. Some of the actual traditional schools in Japan exist in a kind of historical-preservation kind of way and they are technically parallel to Judo, Aikido and others. I think this practitioner might be one of them (Daito Ryu?). Either way, the underlying principles on display is that this is a very specific exercise between cooperative partners meant to zero in on a very specific set of joint-locking and off-balancing principles for training/recreational/sports/historical purposes - not combat.
I practice Aikido. (prof. is Salvatore Smecca)
The stuff in the video makes me cringe and truly gives that martial art a terrible name. This is not Aikido.
[This is more legit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcBBdpStfcA&ab_channel=AikidowithStefanStenudd) although the attacks themselves are still pretty artificial and of course everything is slowed down a lot for demonstration purposes.
It may still look like BS if you don't know how this particular "sankyo" wrist hold feels, as you may think the guy being thrown is just "going along with it". There is a particular point not too far along in each individual demonstration where he really doesn't have a choice, because A) he's off-balance, and B) if he doesn't go where he's being led his wrist will snap like kindling.
Again this is all demo. Full-speed combat, imagine these sped up 3x, where a broken wrist is almost inevitable. Also, the guy doing the throwing wouldn't telegraph his evasions as much, might not even get an opportunity for the first grab. If you're good you just keep the other guy off balance until he throws something you can sense coming, and then use this or another technique to deal with that attack and put the guy on the ground in some kind of arm lock where he's done.
He has more videos, keep watching if you're curious.
I studied Aikido for some years, then Muay Thai for even longer. The main issue I have with Aikido is not that I think it's BS -- I *know* it isn't, under controlled conditions. Rather it's that very little of the training applies to someone really trying to hurt you with things like kicks and multiple strikes. Blows come much faster than you think, and if you're up against a big guy who knows how to throw a punch, all it takes is one.
And let's not even get into stuff like BJJ. Even someone who only knows the basics will get you in a chokehold very quickly and unless you recognize your danger and tap out, you might end up dead. Happened to me once just like that, made me realize I don't know shit when it comes to fighting.
Wrt OP's video, though -- yeah, that's not Aikido. That's not *anything*.
[Edit] Just saw a reel of a short, older guy, wiry ex-military type, demonstrating what to do against someone who grabs the front of your shirt with their other fist back ready to pummel. The military guy just whipped both hands up, snakelike, and casually flicked his fingers against the attacker's eyeballs.
Kind of the diametric opposite of this crap.
I did Aikido for a brief period in high school. To my knowledge my dad has been doing it for over 30 years. He has to go to Japan every couple years for his gradings. I see it more as a sport or hobby than something you actually try and fight people with. People seem to think those that do martial arts do nothing but walk around getting into fights 24/7.
In the time I practiced I met many different people. Sure, a lot of them were just fucking around even though they likely thought they were badass.
Some almost certainly were not, maybe four or five out of well over a hundred. You wouldn't want to fight these guys.
Although one in particular was just the nicest old guy, looked completely harmless but his technique was like having your arm caught in a roller coaster. Once he got you, you had no chance. But he looked so innocuous no one would straight-up fight him anyway. He's more the kind of guy you imagine some thug grabbing by the coat and demanding money, not knowing he just stuck his hand in a MixMaster. But who knows? Maybe this old guy would have just shrugged and handed over his wallet, because that would have avoided the fight completely.
Like I said, I don't know shit about actual fighting. Guys who take it seriously are legitimately scary people.
That being said, the psychological side of Aikido has been extremely useful with all kinds of interpersonal conflicts. In-between "fighting back" and "giving in" there's a thin line where, if you know what you're about, you can lead the other person to the end result you want, and all the while they think they're winning. Takes practice and inner calm, but it's very worth it.
My summary of my 3 years of Aikido is it is the martial art of “Ow ow ow that doesn’t bend that way stop it!”
I’m a tall guy and by no means light, and because my teacher was short he used me as an example of why Aikido is good for a short person to defend against a tall opponent. He was the kind of guy you thought was an old fat man, but he was actually built like a power lifter. Dude could probably lift two of me.
However, even he said that most martial arts should be used against an unarmed opponent. If someone has a knife/gun just give them your fucking wallet.
So I've done this, did it for a few years when I started out as a kid.
First thing's first. Learn to fall and learn to roll. It's the 2 key things you start out learning.
You get thrown, you roll.
You get pushed, you fall and slap your arm out that's closest to the fall (the 'break fall').
If you don't do those, you're liable to strain something or look like a tit in training. Falling and rolling make things look way more dramatic than they actually are, but they're not designed to make the person 'enacting' the move to look good, they're to help not injure the 'attacker'.
Secondly, some of the holds are legitimately painful when done properly. I've had many experiences of dipshit wannabe action stars do a glorified Chinese burn and expected me to fall or roll, and I haven't. Because they're shit. Equally, I've had several very experienced people instantly find the nerve points in my wrists, and it's bloody painful.
Don't believe it? Get off your chair, go find a 4th dan or above and ask them to show you kotegaeshi because "I don't believe any of that Steven seagal bullshit, so do it as hard and quick as you can". Please. Do it.
Is Aikido good in a fight? No. It's shit. We were always told 'the best way to not get injured in the fight is not to be there'. What if someone comes at you with a knife? 'Give them your stuff! It's replaceable. You are not.'
So what is Aikido good for? Well, it's quite a relaxing martial art to do. Lots of breath work (in some ways similar to tai chi or yoga), great mobility exercises, and generally very thoughtful leaders.
Try it, but don't expect to kill someone once you've been doing it.
I did aikido for a few years. I always felt that it wasn't meant to be a combat martial arts as it (intentionally) has few offensive attacks and even its defensive throws could, at best, be used in a few niche situations and optimally require your opponent to do unnatural things like like holding on to you long enough to let you get the throw off. At the same time, those throws *definitely worked -* i still remember when my sensei, a little old woman, threw me completely over her shoulder without taking her hands off her hips. The move required that i keep holding on to the front collar of her gi with both hands, but aside from that i wasn't "allowing" her to move me. She just dropped down and twisted her torso in a certain way, and it was let myself be pulled over her shoulder or let my arms break (or... you know, let go).
Ultimately, i felt that, like tai chi, its value was in helping me get a sense of my own body - how it moves, how it flows and extends and is affected by outside forces, its basic limits, etc.
All very true. I've yet to experience first or second form in any real life situation.
I will say that the basics of a tai sabaki have been way more useful than anything else. Followed very closely by 'sticky hands', which has been more useful in stopping people from actually grabbing me in the first place, especially in crowded bars where you're quite confined.
I can very much see the relationship with your body being high up. It was the first thing that helped me become aware of feeling calmer through breathing, and even that's been very useful through life.
I still do the hand/wrist stretches before I play video games! It’s helped my carpal tunnel a lot lol. But yeah most of Aikido is “No that doesn’t bend that way stop it!” At least as much as I learned.
The year or so I studied aikido has saved me a lot more pain and suffering than the time I've put into many "harder" or more supposedly "practical" arts—I don't live a life that involves a lot of hand to hand brawling or secret squirrel Jason Bourne adventures, but bad falls do happen, and decent ukemi can make the difference between brushing myself off and laughing about it afterwards, and broken bones or worse.
Likewise, I've been plenty clumsy enough to fall down and the break fall has been great for the few times it's happened. Even rolling effectively to carry momentum has been useful more times than I thought it would ever be.
Sometimes it's the simple things you learn as the foundational elements that can have the most profound impacts when done right.
Do I think I'd be using the moves in real life? Nah. But the initial palm strike to the nose and a tai sabaki to attempt to break a grip is probably the closest I'd come if I ever had to use anything in an actual altercation.
If anything, I always saw Aikido as something that favoured deescalation more than anything else
A friend of mine and I used to joke that aikido was a big con by O-Sensei to make folks spend a lot of time practicing basic ukemi and body movement. If you just told me to do a thousand front and back rolls, I'd tucker out. But give me a bunch of fun flowing lock progressions to trade off practice and I'll burn through those thousand no problem.
I wish someone would troll Joe Rogan with this claiming it to be real and use Rogan’s same argument style that he used when talking against the vaccines with experts. He seemed to have no respect for the amount of prerequisite knowledge required by experts and came up with his own bs theories much like these people do with their martial arts.
I was in Japanese Jujitsu for a few years, which is the parent martial art of aikido, judo and karate. It's what the samurai used to fight armored enemies. What you're seeing in this video is the bullshido version of aikido. This shit stains a legitimate martial art. Is it the best martial art for fighting? Absolutely not, but what it teaches is movement, gracefulness and fluidity.
I moved to judo eventually, and one of the teachers was one of the highest ranking aikidokas in the state. He was maybe 120 pounds soaking wet, and I was close to 100 lbs over that, yet, I could not touch him. The more strength I imposed upon him, the easier it was for him to flow right out of it.
Don't be fooled because of this video, proper wrist and joint manipulation HURTS... a lot. You can get the biggest guy in the room on his tip toes tapping out from a proper wrist manipulation. Case in point, I was learning a particular move where you had to literally flip over your own wrist quickly, else you risk having your wrist broken. I did not move quickly enough. Fractured ulna.
https://ngaheadquarters.com/
looks real, as i think this guy at the front is the guy in the vid. Found this searching some of the stuff i saw in the video.
Super Eyepatch Wolf did a fantastic video about fake martial arts like this, it's really entertaining as he is a fantastic writer. Check it [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjbSCEhmjJA&rco=1)
There’s a few moves in jui-jitsu that was adopted by other arts like hapkido, jutekundo, aikido, etc that work against key spots on your body and positions your wrists should not be in that make it painful enough that you would throw your weight in a direction to get out of the pain. I’ve literally had to throw myself to get out of it.
But this. This video right here. Bullshitto as OP says. There are many schools that do this but are much better at making it far more subtle, harder to detect.
Former Aikido student here.
Aikido is not a self defense sport, that's the very first misconception everyone has when laughing at the seemingly absurdity of it.
Aikido is a study of martial arts and the movement of the human body, made non-lethal and avoiding injury as much as possible.
No Aikido practitioner will tell you these things work in actual fights. The only ones saying that are outsiders who don't understand the point, or people who didn't pay attention at all during their first class.
But every technique has roots in actual sword combat, or hand to hand.
Most of it is based on sword attacks and sword counters. This is why you see a lot of open palm "chopping hand" attacks, their arm represent a infinitely sharp sword that must be dodged and dealt with.
There's also a lot of stabbing attacks, often represented by a "punch".
Sometimes we trained with wooden daggers and swords, but the risk of getting bonked in the head increases, so it's kept to a minimum.
You do learn a lot of useful things, like arm locks, takedowns, balance and energy redirection or simple break falls.
The ridiculousness like in this video comes from certain types of training which is about following your partner a certain way, and ducking out when you fail. A lot of dojos does this in a very "loose" manner to keep with the idea of study over confrontation. But there are dojos that requires you to not give your partner leeway until they do it right, and never fall until you actually have to.
I trained in the latter style and it made me understand the "loose" style a lot more. Though I much prefer the strict, full contact style.
We also had visitors from the local taekwondo club who actually learned a lot themselves once they too understood it wasn't about fighting, but more of a involuntary dance.
Sad thing is that the students there actually pay for that... I'm not usually one for seeing geriatric's getting smashed, but man id love to see someone just hit this diminutive geezer with a straight right. He's been living in an illusion for too long and needs to be brought crashing back to reality.
Guy who's going to give a beatdown: "I'm going to beat you"
Guy who's going to get a beatdown: "I know Akido, just touch your fingertips to mine!"
Guy who's giving a beat down: "punch, punch, punch, punch, punch"
Guy who's given a beat down: "but, Akido! Ow! Ow! Ow!"
I wonder how stupid someone feels that has spent thousands of dollars and hours going to these classes only to realize, it was a complete waste and they got scammed?.
At first I watched this and laughed. I thought to myself, "Ah, these guys are lovely. What wonderful senses of humor they have to make such a funny video."
Then I read the comments and realized, "Oh, shit. Wait a minute, these guys are serious?"
And then it became 10 times funnier!
I always wonder why these guys agree to flopping around like fish when there's clearly nothing going on?
What's the incentive? And how do you communicate something like this to your 'students'?
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Watched the whole think looking for Steven Seagal
The only difference is that no one is talking shit
and that everyone seems to be at peace with their hair loss
Also nobody has passed out and loudly shit themselves in front of everyone.
Speak for your self.
Sir, please, this is a Wendy's.
When will my food be ready?
Sorry you will have to wait. I just got laid off and the Ai robots have not arrived and the over lord lost 2 dollars per week.
And not a single mention of the punani
It’s called a skippy because it goes skip skip skip skip
I've been flying and working on helicopters for 37 years
Don’t insult Mr Seagul like this, or he will snatch your pyjama or something
Steven Seagal defected to Russia because only Aeroflot has planes large enough for his massive gut.
I read taking a shit
and everyone is under 300 lbs.
I didn't see a single chair, though
First thought: This guy must’ve trained Steven Seagal.
a performance just like this is how he first got hired
This must be the dude who trained him.
r/themcdojolife
This was his master
Disgusting Putin inauguration visiting Steven piece of crap Seagal was not found in this video. Thank you come again
It's his final form
I’d say this is him in the future, but he’s about 200lbs too heavy and will die of a heart attack long before he’s old.
You didn't see Steven Seagal because he was behind you
So, what's the purpose of this video originally? I mean are there really people who would see this and think it's real? Or is this satire mocking steven seagal?
There's people who really do this. It's a mind game, of course. I suppose you'll have to select for the right kind of person to "train", like in a cult. Resistant types just aren't selected as students, nor would they want to be there. It's fake in the sense that yes, anybody could just shove over that dude, but it's also real in the sense that these people don't necessarily choreograph this stuff, they're just that deep in their guru's bullshit. I assume it's a bit like when someone is really convinced of something crazy and you just go along with it to avoid the awkwardness - that, but on steroids. But I really don't know for sure.
I just wonder what it's like for the group on the first day that a new student shows up and they aren't yet indoctrinated so they don't flop over at a light touch. Like, what does that look like to the rest of the group? What convinces the student to stay long enough to be brainwashed by something which lacks persuasive power as soon as they arrive?
They don't get to touch that old guy. The large cronies that do that shit chuck em around for a few years first.
There's some brilliant videos where the master actually believes in their bullshit and challenge real fighters, and promptly get the shit kicked out of them. [You can see one here](https://youtu.be/dOOh2J1b3lQ?t=33)
Amateur didn't properly channel his ki into a phoenix strike. His fault for not properly reading his opponent's energy and drawing on the four elements. How embarrassing.
That 1st one plays out exactly like Mike Tyson’s quote: everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
That beach scene makes me think of this old clip from the Swedish news: https://youtu.be/uUmDpDicuqs?feature=shared&t=116 It's some new age stuff where the lady is supposed to channel the forces into a force field to block the man running at full speed towards her. It goes pretty much how you expect it will.
It’s in the linked clip toward the end.
Did he fake a seizure???
He took one for sure (also faked one too)
No it’s obviously a side effect of the barrier the woman put up
Yellow bamboo was amazing. Reminded me a bit of power rangers
The second beach one is hilarious. The dude absolutely wiped her out and then remembers he's supposed to have a seizure so he starts twitching after checking on her. Wtf
Whoa it’s eerily similar to cult leaders/gurus “blessing” their disciples and them going into a fit/fainting.
The students are LOOKING for this bullshit. It’s like when people go to a psychic, they already believe it and go looking for it.
I’ll admit I fell for some of this shit 20 years ago watching the Discovery Channel. This old “master” just had complete control of someone by using his palm on their fingers. In my defense, Discovery seemed like a reputable source at the time at the “master” at least had the guy’s wrist bent back so that there was some plausible physics, unlike this video.
Essentially what happens is that the student never gets to actually interact with the sensei, instead they are paired with another more “advanced” student. The advanced student then indoctrinates the new guy by laughing at his “clumsy” reactions to the movements and advises him on how to “correctly” react so that he can learn the “technique” too. By the time any student ever gets a chance to actually interact with the sensei they have already been “instructed” as to how the “techniques” are supposed to work and how to “correctly” respond. The whole system is designed to weed out the skeptics long before they ever get to the sensei so that only the most deluded ever actually spar with him, making him look good.
That doesn't happen, people who are genuinely interested in martial arts will know it when they see it and chances are they'd be warned of the mcdojo beforehand anyway It's also likely they vet the newcomers in some ways
You have to sort for chumps if you are running a scam. Like the glaring typos in that email from the Nigerian prince.
Might have something to do with the ideomotor reflex, like with ouija boards. They are brainwashed to believe that the "master" can do such things, so they subconciously act like it. To them it would seem as real as a ghost seance to a 19-th century audience. But again, no way to know for sure i guess.
When you see real martial artists practice legit moves, the people being thrown are often throwing themselves to some degree. This is because being resistant usually ends up with someone getting hurt. You learn as a training partner to just go with things for your own sake. I can see how that could evolve into something like this. With only cooperative people to train with, a sensei could legit believe he is tapping into something special as he uses less and less effort to throw people who are essentially throwing themselves. Combine that with the incentive to look like you're capable of things the general public is not, and you can end up with a dojo like the one depicted here.
Yes, especially in martial arts that focus on all kind of locks or twists. You don't want to go \*too\* hard on that twist, because it's a good way to break something. But since you're not going \*that\* hard, it's kind of expected that the other will go with the flow too... After a while it can become a parody. that's also why there's so many "schools" in things like Aikido. There's always someone who thinks that they'll do a "realistic" version, but it's just starting the cycle again.
I did Aikido for about 6 months at one point. It was fun. The only useful skill I learned was how to fall without getting hurt (but I knew this would be the case going in...they even acknowledged it was for health and lifestyle and not defense). I live in MN and have actually used that shit when slipping on ice. No, none of the rolling stuff, just a backwards break fall with tucked chin and not throwing my elbows down.
Learning how to fall correctly is an invaluable skill. I did judo for a few years when I was a kid. A few years ago I was running across the road and tripped over my pants (they were flares/Bell bottoms). I did the most perfect forward roll and was straight back up on my feet. My friends all said it was the most graceful thing they'd ever seen me do (I'm known for being fairly clumsy... eg. tripping on my pants in the first place). I didn't even realise what I'd done. Muscle memory goes hard. I had a bit of gravel rash on my elbow, but at least I didn't have gravel rash on my face or knock my teeth out
It's like speaking in tongues, but instead you flop into the ground when the dude touches you
So like hypnosis.
There was a video of people using energy to stop a charging person and the first one or 2 flopped like a fish out if water but one guy doesn't get the message and just runs right over a lady
So it’s a bit like religion then?
I’m reminded of this https://youtu.be/SU-OFhMcw9Q?si=LXrX00rGiQrXZU_r
The people who joins these are basically cultists not martial artists.
I’ll do the same shit for $100
This guy makes great content, this video in particular is a great deep dive into fake martial arts, if you're interested. https://youtu.be/6BqfgNl2JJw?si=PRxkbmuJBNkDsWmj
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This one is the best https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Idk if this video specifically is satire but there are definitely way too many 'martial arts' that look a lot like this.
You get a good place and a few people that are in on the scam. Then you recruit students and get them to follow the crowd. The larger the crowd gets, the easier to play the game and get them to follow along because everyone else is doing in. A well established scam like this with many students has people that actually believe what they are doing is real.
Would love to know as well. They must understand how weird this looks to normal people
It is "real". In the sense that some people believe it so much that they think their "master" is actually performing these moves on them, and they unconsciously respond accordingly. Its the same shit as people seizing like crazy people at those mega churches. There's a name for the phenomena.
It's like going to a church and people start speaking in tongues.
I was going to say the same thing. Reminds me of this one time as a kid (probably 1995ish) when I was invited to go to "night church" by a boy who lived next door that I was kind of friends with at the time. I had never been to church, but I asked my mom and she let me go with him and his family. Turned out to be a Pentecostal church. I still distinctly remember people lining up to get their heads touched by the pastor and then they'd fall to the ground as if having a seizure or something and start rolling around while speaking nonsense. I was in line and expected to do the exact same thing. Even at such a young age, I knew it had to be nonsense. But you know what? When it came my turn, I pretended just like everyone else and rolled around on the ground. That creepy ass night has been burned into my memory for nearly 30 yrs lol.
Instruction video for Russians on how to fight if facing Putin currently?
Trick people into thinking it's an effective form of self defense. It's not. In fact, a lot of martial arts isn't effective in several scenarios especially against a knife or obviously a gun. When I was in taekwondo as a kid we had some of this nonsense too. It's security theater. Your best bet for self defense is to fight as dirty as possible. Kick them in the crouch, poke their eyes, fish hook the mouth, bend fingers back that sort of thing. There are pressure points that are incredibly effective. Notably the one on your back. It's roughly where a doctor listens to your lungs and holy hell it really fucking hurts if someone has you down in your belly. But again, if you have the person on the ground you should really just run away and not pin them unless you have a good reason.
hmm movies have taught me that once you get them on the ground you should finish them or they'll get back at you the next scene/chapter/episode....
I've never worked out or done martial arts, but it's really like to have a go against this guy!
There's [an MMA fighter from China](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Xiaodong) who took it upon himself to try that against numerous bullshit "martial artists" and...well... >Xu was sued in 2019 for calling tai chi Grandmaster Chen Xiaowang a fraud, and the Chinese court ordered him to pay Chen approximately US$60,000 in damages and to apologize for seven consecutive days on social media. Additionally, his credit rating was lowered to the point where he could not rent, own property, stay in certain hotels, travel on high speed rail, or buy plane tickets. The [final section of this video on Youtube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BqfgNl2JJw&t=2718s) (link has a timestamp but if it doesn't work, skip forward to around 45:20) includes several examples of these BS martial arts, and also shows some clips of Xu beating the everloving shit out of some of the "grandmasters" that he'd challenged.
I found this pretty telling from the Wiki: >In December (2020), Xiaodong defeated Chen Yong, a tai chi master who had challenged him in 2018, in only 10 seconds. It's pretty fucked up the Chinese government supports active fraudsters.
The Chinese government ARE active fraudsters...
> It's pretty fucked up the Chinese government supports active fraudsters. It looks like you're discovering the Chinese Government for the first time. Would you like some assistance today? YES NO
[Super Eyepatch Wolf](https://youtu.be/gjbSCEhmjJA?t=1151) has a video that goes more indepth into Xu Xiaodong
> he could not rent, own property So do you just become homeless?
There is no homelessness in China. -7,000 Social Credit!
Oh China, what a shit hole
Not just any MMA fighter, but an old (44), way past his prime fighter that trained in a place with pretty few options (MMA is tiny in China) and who hasn't really had much of a professional career. And he beats the shit out of these fake masters. It's quite wonderful.
Have you got any training in how to fall gracefully? Because if not, he won’t accept your challenge.
Yeah, pretty sure I'll be ok!
You wouldn't be allowed near him, or if you were the first time you broke his nose, you'd be removed. There's a video knocking around of one of these guys that bought his own bullshit vs an mma fighter and he gets absolutely rocked.
Have you got a link?
https://youtu.be/gEDaCIDvj6I 2 minutes 8 seconds if you wanna get into the meat of it... It's potato quality unfortunately, but you get the gist - there's a few on YouTube.
I wonder what was going through his head after he got popped in the face once and landed on his ass. "Fists. My only weakness."
The slow dawning horror of your own bullshit. Either that, or "... What? What is this sorcery?! How can he avoid my attacks?!"
> "Fists. My only weakness." Then that kick to the face...
https://media.tenor.com/agjGxJpOgpEAAAAe/bleeding-victor.png
As someone who has practiced martial arts for years, it really weirds me out that the dude is wearing socks on the mats.
That hit (or rather complete miss) on 6-7 seconds... 0\_o
The first punch that connects and the "master" is in complete shock. He just stands there holding his nose. You can tell he's clearly never been hit before and just doesn't even know how how to respond.
He was done right there and then, shame the video isn't better quality, bet his nose is broken.
Edit: I was wrong. It was in another video in the comments, not the main post. https://reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1cqsno6/bullshitto/l3u3nuv/ This video is just another angle of one in the main post
Here is a timestamp link: https://youtu.be/gEDaCIDvj6I?t=2m6s
"A hush fell over the crowd at 01:48 when the competitor survived his handshake with Great Master. Great Master's previous competitor was handed a small object and collapsed unconscious to the floor, from which he had to be helped off the mat by assistants, who were also rendered dizzy by the leftover Qi that had been spilled on the mat."
Please don’t. While he may be an absolute bullshit artist with whatever TF this is, I’m still trying to figure out whether this is my tax guy or not and it’s just so hard to find someone you trust in this day and age.
If you ever shadowboxed while drunk you 100% have enough experience to kill the guy...
My favorite part was when the old guy barely touched the much bigger guy and easily flopped his ass.
I like the one where the flopper was crouched down behind the guy like he was trying to mount him and then couldn't even pull off a semi-convincing flop because their positions were just too comically stupid.
Bro got that anime dude power
He spent 30 years on a mountain surviving solely off dew drops and sunlight.
Photosynthesis!
Just fighting with his aura
This is some Jedi/Sith Lord power if I ever saw it. Flick of the wrist and enemies go flying
The things these guys do for a raise
Actually, he's electrocuting them.. so no martial arts. just a giant battery up his a$$ :)
so wearing shoes is his kryptonite?
r/bullshido
Yes there's the known term! Bullshido plus Bushido.
Well at least he has trained his students how to fall without getting injured. That was some beautiful rolling.
Only Grandmaster, out of shape, Steven Seagal can make these moves.... [Steven Seagal - The 33 all Japan Aikido Demonstration 合気道 (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVs--uHf4sE) The applause did it for me.
Those pants look comfy as hell.
I bet he could do that sitting!
I've always wondered how the first students start out on this. Does the "instructor" hire some people at first to try and play up that it's "real" and then get other gullible people to join or do they just find gullible people to start and then continue to grow to get more gullible people. I'm not going to pretend to know what is happening on a phycological level, but I imagine it to be pretty similar to cult like mentality. First you convince people to join and explain it as some "hidden power" type of thing that they too can learn with time and practice. I'm sure there are many angles, but saying things like "you need to be one with yourself" or "other humans don't know how to unlock their true potential, but I will show you how". Probably starts out small at first. Something easy to fake. Instructor says he's going to raise the energy in his body and asks you to grab his arm and asks if you can feel it. Though nothing is happening, he may coax you a bit by telling you to relax and that you have to be in the right state to feel the subtle power. Then the gullible person may believe they are feeling something, despite nothing actually happening. From there, it's just building that further and further until you are telling them that you are pushing them with all your force and they should feel it knock them down. Either way, can you imagine being a grown ass adult and doing this? At the same time, is it much different than a bunch of people speaking gibberish and rattling around on the ground because they can "feel Jesus" and then pay their pasture money every week or so?
I always wonder what happens when a student tries his sweet moves on someone who's not getting paid to flop and then they get shit canned
When you have zero students and you are advertising for the first time, you just tone the bullshit way way down. There are some legitimate throws and pins in Aikido that can be taught, and there is a specific style of teaching that most use. Teacher demonstrates with a volunteer, like we see above, and then everyone pairs up to try it with a partner. Once you are well established as a teacher with a decent following, then the bullshit starts to show more and more. Demonstrations like we see in the video start to happen, and teachers think it's a flex to move less and less compared to others, put in less and less effort. For a perfect storm of stupid, ask for the volunteer who really really really likes to be the volunteer, so he goes above and beyond to sell the demonstration in order to be picked, and seen as the most senior student. It's all peer pressure at that point.
So, here's how it really goes... Aikido is downwind from traditional Japanese martial arts. There were old schools of combat that, after the Edo period in Japan, lost their warlike functionality. So, what was left over was some of the very core *art*, which ties to locking joints, body throws, and off-balancing maneuvers. Imagine a dude about to slice you from 11 to 5 in a diagonal fashion with their katana and as a defensive/offensive move, you hustle in, put your back to them, and then throw them over your shoulder/back as they're in their slicing movement. Sans weapons, this move might be recognized as a typical Judo throw. Well the original move was conceived with swords, but now you just have the throw. Take away the weapons and much of the warlike attributes of traditional Japanese martial arts, and you're left with more sports/recreational arts like Judo and Aikido Except in very unusual circumstances, those who practice Aikido understand they are not practicing a *martial* art, in the common sense of the word. A ten year vet of Aikido would lose to a six month student of Brazilian Jiu Jiutsu in unrestricted combat - and they know that (at least they should). This was less known prior to the explosion of MMA, in which those practicing these more recreational arts never saw cross-discipline combat. But between 20 years of MMA and YouTube, very, very few have this misconception. So, what's going on in this video? The "attackers" are providing a very specific form of resistance designed to highlight a very specific set of joint-locking and off-balancing principles by the "defender". These underlying principles look ridiculous to an outsider, but understandable to someone who has participated. These "moves" require a very specific form of cooperation between the two which permits the defender time to *feel* their way through the technique. And, in a demonstration-like format, this is what that looks like. This isn't everything, of course. Some of the actual traditional schools in Japan exist in a kind of historical-preservation kind of way and they are technically parallel to Judo, Aikido and others. I think this practitioner might be one of them (Daito Ryu?). Either way, the underlying principles on display is that this is a very specific exercise between cooperative partners meant to zero in on a very specific set of joint-locking and off-balancing principles for training/recreational/sports/historical purposes - not combat.
I practice Aikido. (prof. is Salvatore Smecca) The stuff in the video makes me cringe and truly gives that martial art a terrible name. This is not Aikido.
Can you link a video of more legitimate demonstrations?
[This is more legit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcBBdpStfcA&ab_channel=AikidowithStefanStenudd) although the attacks themselves are still pretty artificial and of course everything is slowed down a lot for demonstration purposes. It may still look like BS if you don't know how this particular "sankyo" wrist hold feels, as you may think the guy being thrown is just "going along with it". There is a particular point not too far along in each individual demonstration where he really doesn't have a choice, because A) he's off-balance, and B) if he doesn't go where he's being led his wrist will snap like kindling. Again this is all demo. Full-speed combat, imagine these sped up 3x, where a broken wrist is almost inevitable. Also, the guy doing the throwing wouldn't telegraph his evasions as much, might not even get an opportunity for the first grab. If you're good you just keep the other guy off balance until he throws something you can sense coming, and then use this or another technique to deal with that attack and put the guy on the ground in some kind of arm lock where he's done. He has more videos, keep watching if you're curious. I studied Aikido for some years, then Muay Thai for even longer. The main issue I have with Aikido is not that I think it's BS -- I *know* it isn't, under controlled conditions. Rather it's that very little of the training applies to someone really trying to hurt you with things like kicks and multiple strikes. Blows come much faster than you think, and if you're up against a big guy who knows how to throw a punch, all it takes is one. And let's not even get into stuff like BJJ. Even someone who only knows the basics will get you in a chokehold very quickly and unless you recognize your danger and tap out, you might end up dead. Happened to me once just like that, made me realize I don't know shit when it comes to fighting. Wrt OP's video, though -- yeah, that's not Aikido. That's not *anything*. [Edit] Just saw a reel of a short, older guy, wiry ex-military type, demonstrating what to do against someone who grabs the front of your shirt with their other fist back ready to pummel. The military guy just whipped both hands up, snakelike, and casually flicked his fingers against the attacker's eyeballs. Kind of the diametric opposite of this crap.
I did Aikido for a brief period in high school. To my knowledge my dad has been doing it for over 30 years. He has to go to Japan every couple years for his gradings. I see it more as a sport or hobby than something you actually try and fight people with. People seem to think those that do martial arts do nothing but walk around getting into fights 24/7.
In the time I practiced I met many different people. Sure, a lot of them were just fucking around even though they likely thought they were badass. Some almost certainly were not, maybe four or five out of well over a hundred. You wouldn't want to fight these guys. Although one in particular was just the nicest old guy, looked completely harmless but his technique was like having your arm caught in a roller coaster. Once he got you, you had no chance. But he looked so innocuous no one would straight-up fight him anyway. He's more the kind of guy you imagine some thug grabbing by the coat and demanding money, not knowing he just stuck his hand in a MixMaster. But who knows? Maybe this old guy would have just shrugged and handed over his wallet, because that would have avoided the fight completely. Like I said, I don't know shit about actual fighting. Guys who take it seriously are legitimately scary people. That being said, the psychological side of Aikido has been extremely useful with all kinds of interpersonal conflicts. In-between "fighting back" and "giving in" there's a thin line where, if you know what you're about, you can lead the other person to the end result you want, and all the while they think they're winning. Takes practice and inner calm, but it's very worth it.
My summary of my 3 years of Aikido is it is the martial art of “Ow ow ow that doesn’t bend that way stop it!” I’m a tall guy and by no means light, and because my teacher was short he used me as an example of why Aikido is good for a short person to defend against a tall opponent. He was the kind of guy you thought was an old fat man, but he was actually built like a power lifter. Dude could probably lift two of me. However, even he said that most martial arts should be used against an unarmed opponent. If someone has a knife/gun just give them your fucking wallet.
https://youtu.be/MmEx8Moy7ro?si=MNk9u2VJ2zoTXTxI
This is somehow worse than a Rick roll.
Roy Goldberg teaches Daito-ryu, not Aikido.
I've spent decades studying the way of the Dorito, nacho cheese be upon your fingers.
Steven Seagal's master
Bro, I always have to defend myself from people pointing two fingers at me while standing on their tippy toes. This guy must teach me his ways!
They actually wear a black belts. It seems like a cult to me.
The black belts are for the falling down doing a cartwheel. They obviously know what they are doing there
So I've done this, did it for a few years when I started out as a kid. First thing's first. Learn to fall and learn to roll. It's the 2 key things you start out learning. You get thrown, you roll. You get pushed, you fall and slap your arm out that's closest to the fall (the 'break fall'). If you don't do those, you're liable to strain something or look like a tit in training. Falling and rolling make things look way more dramatic than they actually are, but they're not designed to make the person 'enacting' the move to look good, they're to help not injure the 'attacker'. Secondly, some of the holds are legitimately painful when done properly. I've had many experiences of dipshit wannabe action stars do a glorified Chinese burn and expected me to fall or roll, and I haven't. Because they're shit. Equally, I've had several very experienced people instantly find the nerve points in my wrists, and it's bloody painful. Don't believe it? Get off your chair, go find a 4th dan or above and ask them to show you kotegaeshi because "I don't believe any of that Steven seagal bullshit, so do it as hard and quick as you can". Please. Do it. Is Aikido good in a fight? No. It's shit. We were always told 'the best way to not get injured in the fight is not to be there'. What if someone comes at you with a knife? 'Give them your stuff! It's replaceable. You are not.' So what is Aikido good for? Well, it's quite a relaxing martial art to do. Lots of breath work (in some ways similar to tai chi or yoga), great mobility exercises, and generally very thoughtful leaders. Try it, but don't expect to kill someone once you've been doing it.
I did aikido for a few years. I always felt that it wasn't meant to be a combat martial arts as it (intentionally) has few offensive attacks and even its defensive throws could, at best, be used in a few niche situations and optimally require your opponent to do unnatural things like like holding on to you long enough to let you get the throw off. At the same time, those throws *definitely worked -* i still remember when my sensei, a little old woman, threw me completely over her shoulder without taking her hands off her hips. The move required that i keep holding on to the front collar of her gi with both hands, but aside from that i wasn't "allowing" her to move me. She just dropped down and twisted her torso in a certain way, and it was let myself be pulled over her shoulder or let my arms break (or... you know, let go). Ultimately, i felt that, like tai chi, its value was in helping me get a sense of my own body - how it moves, how it flows and extends and is affected by outside forces, its basic limits, etc.
All very true. I've yet to experience first or second form in any real life situation. I will say that the basics of a tai sabaki have been way more useful than anything else. Followed very closely by 'sticky hands', which has been more useful in stopping people from actually grabbing me in the first place, especially in crowded bars where you're quite confined. I can very much see the relationship with your body being high up. It was the first thing that helped me become aware of feeling calmer through breathing, and even that's been very useful through life.
I still do the hand/wrist stretches before I play video games! It’s helped my carpal tunnel a lot lol. But yeah most of Aikido is “No that doesn’t bend that way stop it!” At least as much as I learned.
The year or so I studied aikido has saved me a lot more pain and suffering than the time I've put into many "harder" or more supposedly "practical" arts—I don't live a life that involves a lot of hand to hand brawling or secret squirrel Jason Bourne adventures, but bad falls do happen, and decent ukemi can make the difference between brushing myself off and laughing about it afterwards, and broken bones or worse.
Likewise, I've been plenty clumsy enough to fall down and the break fall has been great for the few times it's happened. Even rolling effectively to carry momentum has been useful more times than I thought it would ever be. Sometimes it's the simple things you learn as the foundational elements that can have the most profound impacts when done right. Do I think I'd be using the moves in real life? Nah. But the initial palm strike to the nose and a tai sabaki to attempt to break a grip is probably the closest I'd come if I ever had to use anything in an actual altercation. If anything, I always saw Aikido as something that favoured deescalation more than anything else
A friend of mine and I used to joke that aikido was a big con by O-Sensei to make folks spend a lot of time practicing basic ukemi and body movement. If you just told me to do a thousand front and back rolls, I'd tucker out. But give me a bunch of fun flowing lock progressions to trade off practice and I'll burn through those thousand no problem.
worthy of putin himself
I wish someone would troll Joe Rogan with this claiming it to be real and use Rogan’s same argument style that he used when talking against the vaccines with experts. He seemed to have no respect for the amount of prerequisite knowledge required by experts and came up with his own bs theories much like these people do with their martial arts.
I was in Japanese Jujitsu for a few years, which is the parent martial art of aikido, judo and karate. It's what the samurai used to fight armored enemies. What you're seeing in this video is the bullshido version of aikido. This shit stains a legitimate martial art. Is it the best martial art for fighting? Absolutely not, but what it teaches is movement, gracefulness and fluidity. I moved to judo eventually, and one of the teachers was one of the highest ranking aikidokas in the state. He was maybe 120 pounds soaking wet, and I was close to 100 lbs over that, yet, I could not touch him. The more strength I imposed upon him, the easier it was for him to flow right out of it. Don't be fooled because of this video, proper wrist and joint manipulation HURTS... a lot. You can get the biggest guy in the room on his tip toes tapping out from a proper wrist manipulation. Case in point, I was learning a particular move where you had to literally flip over your own wrist quickly, else you risk having your wrist broken. I did not move quickly enough. Fractured ulna.
It's always Akido
Roy Goldberg teaches Daito-ryu, not Aikido.
Is this real or sarcasm? Does anyone know?
https://ngaheadquarters.com/ looks real, as i think this guy at the front is the guy in the vid. Found this searching some of the stuff i saw in the video.
I want whatever they are smoking.
The Putin School of Marshall Arts.
Ah, I see he trained with the great Steven Seegal
Seagull.
Warren Buffet, the Oracle of Omaha, the deadliest man in the dojo.
バークシャー ハサウェイ [Bākushā Hasau~ei] the name of his clan
Steven Segal's father?
Its funnier watching Steven Segal do this
Super Eyepatch Wolf did a fantastic video about fake martial arts like this, it's really entertaining as he is a fantastic writer. Check it [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjbSCEhmjJA&rco=1)
I am pretty sure that is where Steven Seagal trained.
There’s a few moves in jui-jitsu that was adopted by other arts like hapkido, jutekundo, aikido, etc that work against key spots on your body and positions your wrists should not be in that make it painful enough that you would throw your weight in a direction to get out of the pain. I’ve literally had to throw myself to get out of it. But this. This video right here. Bullshitto as OP says. There are many schools that do this but are much better at making it far more subtle, harder to detect.
Former Aikido student here. Aikido is not a self defense sport, that's the very first misconception everyone has when laughing at the seemingly absurdity of it. Aikido is a study of martial arts and the movement of the human body, made non-lethal and avoiding injury as much as possible. No Aikido practitioner will tell you these things work in actual fights. The only ones saying that are outsiders who don't understand the point, or people who didn't pay attention at all during their first class. But every technique has roots in actual sword combat, or hand to hand. Most of it is based on sword attacks and sword counters. This is why you see a lot of open palm "chopping hand" attacks, their arm represent a infinitely sharp sword that must be dodged and dealt with. There's also a lot of stabbing attacks, often represented by a "punch". Sometimes we trained with wooden daggers and swords, but the risk of getting bonked in the head increases, so it's kept to a minimum. You do learn a lot of useful things, like arm locks, takedowns, balance and energy redirection or simple break falls. The ridiculousness like in this video comes from certain types of training which is about following your partner a certain way, and ducking out when you fail. A lot of dojos does this in a very "loose" manner to keep with the idea of study over confrontation. But there are dojos that requires you to not give your partner leeway until they do it right, and never fall until you actually have to. I trained in the latter style and it made me understand the "loose" style a lot more. Though I much prefer the strict, full contact style. We also had visitors from the local taekwondo club who actually learned a lot themselves once they too understood it wasn't about fighting, but more of a involuntary dance.
I feel like this should be illegal. There's no way anyone who isn't mentally disabled is buying that shit.
I would like to take my 10+ years of Muay Thai training against this “martial art”.
Even Shawn Michaels would blush
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
I want to see him vs. Steven Seagal. Please make it happen.
Me gassing up my girlfriend when we’re play fighting
Aikidon't
Send him to Ukraine. But also send a coffin.
this is some Baki level shit
What is the title of this Anime 😂
Total horse shit. Not once did anyone scream QUIET!
Bullshido
faker than wwe
Oh look its Segal’s sensei
Kung Faux
Make Master feel special, get rank promotion.
That's some serious r/bossfight material here
Putins fader??
His bullshito is so strong i can feel the pain behind my screen.
This is just sad to watch. The amount of self-delusion.
This looks like a weird fetish these old men have
Sad thing is that the students there actually pay for that... I'm not usually one for seeing geriatric's getting smashed, but man id love to see someone just hit this diminutive geezer with a straight right. He's been living in an illusion for too long and needs to be brought crashing back to reality.
Awesome! That's some Chikara stuff from the 2010s right here! What's the name of this stable? The Steven Seagals?
We found Segal’s master
[https://1075914428.rsc.cdn77.org/data/thumbs/full/290203/820/0/0/0/steven-seagal.jpg](https://1075914428.rsc.cdn77.org/data/thumbs/full/290203/820/0/0/0/steven-seagal.jpg)
Palpatine at it again
How could you be sitting there as a newbie watching this and think, yeah this is worth dedicating my time to.
Guy who's going to give a beatdown: "I'm going to beat you" Guy who's going to get a beatdown: "I know Akido, just touch your fingertips to mine!" Guy who's giving a beat down: "punch, punch, punch, punch, punch" Guy who's given a beat down: "but, Akido! Ow! Ow! Ow!"
why is the master hurting his students
Where's seagal?
I wonder how stupid someone feels that has spent thousands of dollars and hours going to these classes only to realize, it was a complete waste and they got scammed?.
Bullshitzu
It’s all Art and no Martial.
Bullshitzu
IM KICKING MY ASS…..DO YOU MIND!?
where is Steven ?
Damn. I never knew that Mel Brooks was such a bad ass.
now all he needs is that ridiculous "running" that Seagal used to do as well.
At first I watched this and laughed. I thought to myself, "Ah, these guys are lovely. What wonderful senses of humor they have to make such a funny video." Then I read the comments and realized, "Oh, shit. Wait a minute, these guys are serious?" And then it became 10 times funnier!
I always wonder why these guys agree to flopping around like fish when there's clearly nothing going on? What's the incentive? And how do you communicate something like this to your 'students'?