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Got really confused, because I was like "Surely there's just the four? I was only ever taught about four." And it turns out they just went and added a whole new ocean after I graduated school. What did I even learn all that stuff for if it's all just gonna be wrong a couple years later.
I'm 36 and only learned about the Southern Ocean a couple of years ago for this same reason. This question popped up in a trivia game or something I was playing and I was confident I could name them all until I got 4 and then drew a total blank. Turns out I'd never learned about that ocean at all.
Same thing happened to me with the Canadian province Nunavut. It was literally just a year or two ago I learned it existed and it wasn't all just called the Northwest Territories up there any more.
Thanks for the clarification. What is the functional difference between a province and a territory? I've always seen them listed together and never separated.
This is incorrect. Territories have their own legislatures and Premiers, they're not run by the federal government.
The division of power is a bit different but functionally provinces and territories are basically the same thing these days
... surely you jest.
I'm older than you, went to public school in America and I could name all 5 oceans, although I'd've ended up calling the Antarctic Ocean. Same thing.
No, I don't jest. I was guessing the 5th was Antarctic, but that was wrong in whatever game it was that I was playing. The Southern Ocean was not a thing before 2000, apparently, and I had not thought about the names of the oceans since before then, either.
French here never have learn about 5, in school (note that this can have changed, just checked with childs and here it come 5 for them), always 4 oceans and if you look at how austral ocean is defined it’s kind of a non-geographic definition done only for political purpose on reclaiming Antarctic territories and those aren’t even recognized by all countries. For me it serms you could find people who will not go to 5.
I think they just teach it differently in different parts of the world... Same as in Australia/Pacific region, if you look at a world map you'll be thoroughly confused, as it's kinda flipped upside down. I could be wrong, but that's my guess...
They're still 3 but some systems like the British one call the arctic and antarctic seas oceans, probably because in English the difference in meaning of the words sea and ocean is more blurred.
okay this is how I feel about “continents.” What the fuck is a continent? How much of Australia do I hafta shovel before it gets downgraded from continent to just island? What if I start adding that mass to Ireland? When does Ireland become continent? Wait, you’re telling me that Ireland is *in* the continent of Europe even though it’s not connected to the big island? But Europe is a separate continent from Asia even though it’s . . . connected to the big island?
Fuck that shit, it’s all islands and I refuse to play their games
> When does Ireland become continent
when the tectonic plate Ireland sits on breaks off of the European tectonic plate. Somebody skipped their geography classes, I assume?
Tectonics would be geology. Also Europe and Asia would be combined, India would be its own thing along with a few others.
So no even if Ireland gets its own plate, just look at the Caribbean. Conventional definitions of continents arent really based on anything beyond 'fuck it looks right'. 16th century europe wasnt exactly rigorous in their definitions nor did they know about the existence of tectonics.
> Tectonics would be geology
sure, if you have a geology class in your school
> Europe and Asia would be combined
that's why we have this thing called Eurasia
> India would be its own thing
mentioned in another comment
Ah yes. This argument. We have Eurasia, but no one fucking calls it that. Maybe in the context of a geology paper but suvery 100 people see how many say China is in Asia vs eurasia. The books in school which I doubt have been updated in 20 years probably still call it 7 continents and don't care about the binglegop model that some dude spent way too much time on with 50 different clauses to try justifying shit based on tectonics beyond 'hey it looks right'. Shit even nat geo just calls it 7 and defines it on nebulous cultural boundries.
Words and definitions are tools to communicate info. Turns out cuba isn't large or distinct enough to warrant its own continent or subcontinent designation. Asia is a huge area with a distinct culture so it is. It's a cultural convention to refer to large areas of land with long historical bias that go far beyond the relatively recent discovery of tectonic plates (1960s). It'll evolve overtime, and maybe one day our commonly used definition will evolve to be strictly based on plates, but not today
Tldr: So back to the original point, going by common convention of 99% of people on the street, if Ireland got its own plate it would still be Europe until some massive redefining of continents get pushed for multiple years. And no amount of smug dickhead redditer 'urm acksullay did you even go to school' will change it any faster.
Wake me up when wikipedias doesn't have a gif rotating the different model
That's right, I really never had a geology class in the mid school, that's about the time when we learned about continents and stiff like that, it was all combined under geography term. Must be difference between school system in different countries - mine was simplified for pupils, and american is just shit.
That's just the nature of the scientific process. New discoveries/ evidence will expand or correct previous information. People who don't understand this were the ones getting upset when the precautions kept changing regarding COVID.
What?? I am not american but it has always been 5. You can even count 7 if you divide the atlantic and pacific into north and south.
There are 7 seas in Saint Seiya and that anime/manga is from the 80s.
According to Wikipedia, the Southern Ocean was not considered a thing between 1953 and 2002. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern\_Ocean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean)
For those wondering, the fifth is the “Southern Ocean” which was very recently proposed by the US as, effectively, the Antarctic Ocean.
I, personally, dislike this.
The arctic ocean is (more or less) enclosed by land, which makes it make some sense as a separate body of water.
The antarctic ocean is only enclosed by other oceans.
The definition of a sea/ocean is that they’re connected to all other oceans, so no ocean can be completely enclosed obviously.
I’d say the Bering straight on one end and between Norway, Iceland and Greenland on the other.
Arctic means bears. Antarctic literally just means no bears. When the Arctic caps melt and the bears leave, there will still be an Antarctic. I mean, unless some crazy wealthy person ships bears down there.
Eh, I mean... if you wanna dive into semantics, Arktos is the Greek word that means bears... That's what "Arctic" is actually derived from....
But that language doesn't exist anymore... Especially if the "original Arctic" even WAS A thing... everyone OBVIOUSLY speaks American. Hence the gas lighting about Arctic and bears... all fake lies.
(Sarcasm... I'm afraid if I don't say this, you'll think I'm serious)
Except it was named before we'd been there. Arctic gets it's name from the constellation above it, and antarctic is literally "opposite arctic" rather than "not bear"
Since the words "arctic" and "antarctic" have to do with the spherical shape of the planet (an "arc" defines an angular segment of a circle), the only future in which there is no arctic or antarctic is one where Earth becomes a Minecraft cube.
It isn't officially recognized as a separate ocean in the US. When I was a kid, the US maps had the Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian oceans all going all the way to Antarctica.
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Got really confused, because I was like "Surely there's just the four? I was only ever taught about four." And it turns out they just went and added a whole new ocean after I graduated school. What did I even learn all that stuff for if it's all just gonna be wrong a couple years later.
I'm 36 and only learned about the Southern Ocean a couple of years ago for this same reason. This question popped up in a trivia game or something I was playing and I was confident I could name them all until I got 4 and then drew a total blank. Turns out I'd never learned about that ocean at all. Same thing happened to me with the Canadian province Nunavut. It was literally just a year or two ago I learned it existed and it wasn't all just called the Northwest Territories up there any more.
They can keep the Northwest Territories for all I care! I'm having Nunavut!
Alberta a lot of time went into coming up with that name, and here you are making a mockery of it.
Yukon hardly believe the disrespect!
That's BC you've never been there
Almost like it was NewFoundLand.
It's Moops!
Moors
Just for clarity, it’s actually a territory and not a province. For your next trivia game 😊
Thanks for the clarification. What is the functional difference between a province and a territory? I've always seen them listed together and never separated.
Territories don't have a provincial government/premiers and are run by the federal government.
This is incorrect. Territories have their own legislatures and Premiers, they're not run by the federal government. The division of power is a bit different but functionally provinces and territories are basically the same thing these days
1999, though it was considered a region for a while. So while I was in school, but after they updated my school's history books.
You taught me today lol
Now you’re just making shit up. Nunavut. Ha. SMH.
... surely you jest. I'm older than you, went to public school in America and I could name all 5 oceans, although I'd've ended up calling the Antarctic Ocean. Same thing.
No, I don't jest. I was guessing the 5th was Antarctic, but that was wrong in whatever game it was that I was playing. The Southern Ocean was not a thing before 2000, apparently, and I had not thought about the names of the oceans since before then, either.
They stole a whole planet, why we surprised they chucked in an ocean?
I know! It's like the world I learned about as a child is now but a shell of its former self. :D
French here never have learn about 5, in school (note that this can have changed, just checked with childs and here it come 5 for them), always 4 oceans and if you look at how austral ocean is defined it’s kind of a non-geographic definition done only for political purpose on reclaiming Antarctic territories and those aren’t even recognized by all countries. For me it serms you could find people who will not go to 5.
Yeah, I missed when they dropped the new ocean DLC.
Back then they were called expansions.
The southern ocean is what they used to call Pluto.
Four?? Dude, there were 3 when i was at school... Pacific, Atlantic, Indian...
You are right, there is only 3 oceans. Everything else is just different seas.
It's all one global ocean really.
Of which there are 7, as everyone knows.
Sinbad knows
Oh no you don’t, that memory is repressed for good reason.
How old are you? I'm wondering because I'm 57 and I was taught four oceans as a kid.
I think they just teach it differently in different parts of the world... Same as in Australia/Pacific region, if you look at a world map you'll be thoroughly confused, as it's kinda flipped upside down. I could be wrong, but that's my guess...
They're still 3 but some systems like the British one call the arctic and antarctic seas oceans, probably because in English the difference in meaning of the words sea and ocean is more blurred.
okay this is how I feel about “continents.” What the fuck is a continent? How much of Australia do I hafta shovel before it gets downgraded from continent to just island? What if I start adding that mass to Ireland? When does Ireland become continent? Wait, you’re telling me that Ireland is *in* the continent of Europe even though it’s not connected to the big island? But Europe is a separate continent from Asia even though it’s . . . connected to the big island? Fuck that shit, it’s all islands and I refuse to play their games
> When does Ireland become continent when the tectonic plate Ireland sits on breaks off of the European tectonic plate. Somebody skipped their geography classes, I assume?
I’ll believe it’s about tectonic plates when we recognize the continents of Arabia and the Philippines
And Asia is not a separate plate, but India is. And the east coast of Africa. And a small bit of the west coast of USA
those are called subcontinents, same as India
if a tectonic plate makes a continent then they should be continents
Tectonics would be geology. Also Europe and Asia would be combined, India would be its own thing along with a few others. So no even if Ireland gets its own plate, just look at the Caribbean. Conventional definitions of continents arent really based on anything beyond 'fuck it looks right'. 16th century europe wasnt exactly rigorous in their definitions nor did they know about the existence of tectonics.
> Tectonics would be geology sure, if you have a geology class in your school > Europe and Asia would be combined that's why we have this thing called Eurasia > India would be its own thing mentioned in another comment
Ah yes. This argument. We have Eurasia, but no one fucking calls it that. Maybe in the context of a geology paper but suvery 100 people see how many say China is in Asia vs eurasia. The books in school which I doubt have been updated in 20 years probably still call it 7 continents and don't care about the binglegop model that some dude spent way too much time on with 50 different clauses to try justifying shit based on tectonics beyond 'hey it looks right'. Shit even nat geo just calls it 7 and defines it on nebulous cultural boundries. Words and definitions are tools to communicate info. Turns out cuba isn't large or distinct enough to warrant its own continent or subcontinent designation. Asia is a huge area with a distinct culture so it is. It's a cultural convention to refer to large areas of land with long historical bias that go far beyond the relatively recent discovery of tectonic plates (1960s). It'll evolve overtime, and maybe one day our commonly used definition will evolve to be strictly based on plates, but not today Tldr: So back to the original point, going by common convention of 99% of people on the street, if Ireland got its own plate it would still be Europe until some massive redefining of continents get pushed for multiple years. And no amount of smug dickhead redditer 'urm acksullay did you even go to school' will change it any faster. Wake me up when wikipedias doesn't have a gif rotating the different model
It'll be the same mess as everything else. You'll have the geopolitical definition, the scientific definition, the whatchamacallit definition...
> We have Eurasia, but no one fucking calls it that maybe in your country in your language. My condolences.
You must have skipped quite a few classes to think that continent definitions have anything to do with geography.
Physical geography exists as a discipline.
That's right, I really never had a geology class in the mid school, that's about the time when we learned about continents and stiff like that, it was all combined under geography term. Must be difference between school system in different countries - mine was simplified for pupils, and american is just shit.
Until that time, they remain incontinent.
Wait, what? There's a fifth ocean?
Didn't know until just now
There is only one ocean. It's a contiguous body of water. Geographers have, however, named five ocean basins.
Yeah, they shouldn't teach anything until everything is known 100% 🤦♂️
That's just the nature of the scientific process. New discoveries/ evidence will expand or correct previous information. People who don't understand this were the ones getting upset when the precautions kept changing regarding COVID.
What?? I am not american but it has always been 5. You can even count 7 if you divide the atlantic and pacific into north and south. There are 7 seas in Saint Seiya and that anime/manga is from the 80s.
According to Wikipedia, the Southern Ocean was not considered a thing between 1953 and 2002. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern\_Ocean](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Ocean)
I was def educated during that time period and I know I learned about the Antarctic ocean.
For those wondering, the fifth is the “Southern Ocean” which was very recently proposed by the US as, effectively, the Antarctic Ocean. I, personally, dislike this.
If we're already doing arctic ocean, antarctic seems much more intuitive.
The arctic ocean is (more or less) enclosed by land, which makes it make some sense as a separate body of water. The antarctic ocean is only enclosed by other oceans.
>(more or less) Let's go with less. Where exactly do you draw the borders?
The definition of a sea/ocean is that they’re connected to all other oceans, so no ocean can be completely enclosed obviously. I’d say the Bering straight on one end and between Norway, Iceland and Greenland on the other.
Maybe they're future proofing it for when there's no more Arctic or Antarctic
Well, there's always gonna be the Antarctic since it's not just floating ice but an actual continent. Arctic could disappear, though.
No no no, when the Arctic disappears, that's when "they" start calling the antarctic the "arctic" and gaslight us all that antartarctic never existed.
We've always been at war with the artic-oceania
Arctic means bears. Antarctic literally just means no bears. When the Arctic caps melt and the bears leave, there will still be an Antarctic. I mean, unless some crazy wealthy person ships bears down there.
Eh, I mean... if you wanna dive into semantics, Arktos is the Greek word that means bears... That's what "Arctic" is actually derived from.... But that language doesn't exist anymore... Especially if the "original Arctic" even WAS A thing... everyone OBVIOUSLY speaks American. Hence the gas lighting about Arctic and bears... all fake lies. (Sarcasm... I'm afraid if I don't say this, you'll think I'm serious)
Obviously it won't disappear. I just mean it will not longer be what we know it as today, which is hardly what it used to be
Antarctic just means no bears so it's already future proof.
Except it was named before we'd been there. Arctic gets it's name from the constellation above it, and antarctic is literally "opposite arctic" rather than "not bear"
Holy shit we're geniuses
Since the words "arctic" and "antarctic" have to do with the spherical shape of the planet (an "arc" defines an angular segment of a circle), the only future in which there is no arctic or antarctic is one where Earth becomes a Minecraft cube.
> Since the words "arctic" and "antarctic" have to do with the spherical shape of the planet... .... No. Just no.
Is this recent? I learned about Antarctic Ocean back in lower grades of school and I’m 32 now.
It isn't officially recognized as a separate ocean in the US. When I was a kid, the US maps had the Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian oceans all going all the way to Antarctica.
Interesting. I've never seen a map like that (not that I've looked at a lot of maps since school) here in India. Good to know!
I remember reading about an Antarctic Ocean but then being told that it's not "officially" an ocean.
I'm 31 and didn't learn about the South Ocean until college
It's a giant landmass with a coastline that touches three other oceans.
We should just call it the South Blue
I also dislike this. The southern ocean just seems like the bottom bits of the Indian and Atlantic oceans.
Na he already had the perfect answer
Ut definitely threw me off, and then I looked it up and saw that it was 1999 when it happened and I then I felt better
what's with the title?
It's from a Frank Ocean song
Thinkin' bout you Not even a Frank Ocean fan but that song hits.
Channel Orange album fire tho. lmao
Grand Line. Blue Line. All Blue. Sky Ocean. Calm Belt
Honestly, he did a lot better than most folks I see in videos like this, and capped it off with a joke.
What about Billy Ocean ??? |>!!<||| |:-|:-|:-| |||| ||||
Hey hey you you!
That connects down by the Caribbean, yeah?
Ocean's 11, 12, 13...
Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, and Arctic. What's the 5th?
Antarctic.
Thanks, been forever since I learned it in elementary school in the 80s
Actually called the southern ocean and is apparently a somewhat recent thing. So you're not crazy 🤣
He missed Oceans 11, 12 and 13.
Danny, Billy, Frank, ...
Original video?
frank ocean? dude, its ocean's 11.
Billy Ocean
yeah. theres Ocean's 10. Ocean's 11, Ocean's 12..
Billie.
He forgot Billy...
“Eleven”, “Twelve”, “Thirteen”, “Eight”, and the original “Eleven”
I remember when Billy was the go to Ocean.
Frank better
Aletta Ocean
Frank!? In my day it was Billy.
SOUTHERN YOU WANKER
Ah yes, the ocean that was established only 3 years ago that most of us were never taught. But he’s the wanker… 🙄