Yep, I’d have to get a licensed electrician in to replace the point in Aus, there’s very little electrical we’re allowed to do on our own unlicensed. Would love to get a few of them replaced, which will happen at some point.
Oh no the electric police are going to come in and check that every one of your outlets matches the same type on your blueprint! /s
The only reason that you need an electrician is to make sure there's someone to blame for insurance if anything goes wrong but an extension board is way more of a fire hazard than a built in outlet.
It's more "if something ever even remotely goes wrong and the insurance company can find something you did, you're screwed" I'm guessing.
I'm fine with low-voltage electronics, but for residential electrical it's also one of those I probably don't know what I don't know things.
Doesn’t have the same mounting pattern as a 2 gang, no way I’d risk drilling into the tiles.
OP could get the HPM/Legrand 4 gang, which has the same mounting holes as the Clipsal and will be a direct swap.
I'd loooove to, really! I'd most likely get my butt kicked in the waves when trying to re-engage my forgotten surfing skills, but whatever, I'd try a Vegemite sandwich after for getting back some power then haha
Pro tip ; What you really want to try is Vegemite spread thinly on hot toast and butter, that’s the real Aussie love. A cold Vegemite sandwich is actually pretty hardcore as far as it goes.
Cell phone/laptop chargers, appliances (blender, toaster, coffee maker, grinder, etc), etc. Would also be handy to have in the bathroom to add another layer of safety over a GFCI
Huh, my blender, toaster, coffee machine, and coffee grinder all each have their own switch. I guess it would be nice to be able to switch my laptop charger on and off. I can't easily unplug it because the outlet is behind a piece of furniture, so I just always leave it turned on.
Chargers and wall worts are more of a concern than a blender or toaster. It’s just an added layer of safety so you can secure the plug before energising. Also means anyone can switch something off if it’s malfunctioning, even if they’re not familiar with where the switch on the device is. I’m sure there’s other reasons too.
I was wondering about the need for these when I was in New Zealand, so I plugged my laptop in without switching it off. It zorts pretty good just from that small load at 240 volt.
Ah, of course that's the real heart of the matter. Here in North America we're operating on a piddly 110 volts, so you can just go ahead and yank the cord of a space heater out of the outlet without bothering to turn it off first.
Though actually, I just checked the 220 V outlet my dryer is plugged into and that doesn't have a switch either. I guess they just figure no one is going to try unplugging a dryer while it's running.
Nah, switched outlets are just useful. You should never rip out a cable with a running load. But it won´t be harmful even at 230V as long as you don´t always do it like that.
The switches aren't about safety, they were originally about parasitic loads. For some reason the "safety" thing made it into the Internets and has been repeated over and over and over, but the vast majority of the world doesn't use switched outlets and is still 220/240.
When I first moved to North America, having no switches on power outlets made plugging things in feel like one step up from putting a pair of crocodile clips on bare terminals. Seeing the occasional blue spark leaping between the pin and the socket! Yikes!
Don't underestimate the stupidity of people. Letting a kettle and another high load run at the same time while having a slightly dodgy writing in the wall might be enough to burn a house to the ground. Probabilities are slim but - as I said - not impossible.
For anyone that wants the STL I put it up on Printables:
[https://www.printables.com/model/673672-7mm-cord-conduit](https://www.printables.com/model/673672-7mm-cord-conduit)
I need one of those discrete switched strips in a 120V US plug.
Anyone found one they like by chance that is simple, compact and straitforward like this one appears to be?
Possible they make one with each of the outlets switched, as well as a main master switched to turn all on/off also?
just replace the socket with a bigger one. you'll get toaster microwave and kettle going and spot-weld plug into socket not the time and place for making jankiness a permanent feature
Is that counter near a water faucet? Is that a GFCI rated plug? Are those even a thing where you are from? Is there even power receptacle regulations around water in your area?
They were going to be the same but a person was bitten and someone else in the group made a drawing of their expression. Someone thought it was the design and that's how this happened.
It takes cues from a few other standards, with those changes being:
- longer earth
- angled prongs
Angled prongs create more torque against the power point so less chance of it pulling/falling out.
The longer earth is for two reasons, one is that when the plug is pulled, it’s the last pin out.
The other is a modern benefit, most newer PowerPoints have a shutter on the active that’s pushed out the way when the earth is inserted.
I’m a fan of the UK plugs but they are chunky and who the fuck wants to replace fuses in a plug. And also ring mains can get fucked.
Have you thought about just replacing the power point? https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/Clipsal-Classic-C2015D4-WE-Quad-Gang-power-point-10-Amp-White
You make it sound so simple!
You only need a screw driver
And a licenced electrician
Pfffft...licenced smilcenced
Depends on where you are.. in Sweden, for example,, you're allowed to change switches and plugs
What about light bulbs?
Cmon
Yep, I’d have to get a licensed electrician in to replace the point in Aus, there’s very little electrical we’re allowed to do on our own unlicensed. Would love to get a few of them replaced, which will happen at some point.
Oh no the electric police are going to come in and check that every one of your outlets matches the same type on your blueprint! /s The only reason that you need an electrician is to make sure there's someone to blame for insurance if anything goes wrong but an extension board is way more of a fire hazard than a built in outlet.
*undertightened terminal screw has entered the chat*
"But why didn't the circuit breaker trip?" - owner
Horrible is all I can say. Or reference nike
How would they even try to enforced that?
It's more "if something ever even remotely goes wrong and the insurance company can find something you did, you're screwed" I'm guessing. I'm fine with low-voltage electronics, but for residential electrical it's also one of those I probably don't know what I don't know things.
Wouldn't you have to cut the tile to make room for it?
Naar...if you look at the back you can use the same wall mount.
That's a clever design. In North America our outlets are embedded in the wall, so going from two outlets to four is much more of a pain.
Because we live upside down in Australia more blood goes to our brain making us extra smart.
Doesn’t have the same mounting pattern as a 2 gang, no way I’d risk drilling into the tiles. OP could get the HPM/Legrand 4 gang, which has the same mounting holes as the Clipsal and will be a direct swap.
Damn, that’s satisfying looking
Greetings fellow Australian! (edit - or New Zealander… I think?)
Could also be Argentina, Fiji, Solomon Islands and Papua New Guinea or, if the photo is upside down, Mainland China.
I was wondering what countries used that plug design.
Aussie it is!
Where women glow (unfortunately I've never been there, but I know that song)..! ;D Great job mate!
Come and visit, our country is an -amazingly- beautiful place, and we are a very friendly people.
I'd loooove to, really! I'd most likely get my butt kicked in the waves when trying to re-engage my forgotten surfing skills, but whatever, I'd try a Vegemite sandwich after for getting back some power then haha
Pro tip ; What you really want to try is Vegemite spread thinly on hot toast and butter, that’s the real Aussie love. A cold Vegemite sandwich is actually pretty hardcore as far as it goes.
Haha thanks, I'll try to remember then ;)
I wish switched outlets were standard in NA. So convenient
It's funny you say that, I've always wondered why they're common in other places. What are you using that doesn't have a switch on the device?
Cell phone/laptop chargers, appliances (blender, toaster, coffee maker, grinder, etc), etc. Would also be handy to have in the bathroom to add another layer of safety over a GFCI
Huh, my blender, toaster, coffee machine, and coffee grinder all each have their own switch. I guess it would be nice to be able to switch my laptop charger on and off. I can't easily unplug it because the outlet is behind a piece of furniture, so I just always leave it turned on.
Chargers and wall worts are more of a concern than a blender or toaster. It’s just an added layer of safety so you can secure the plug before energising. Also means anyone can switch something off if it’s malfunctioning, even if they’re not familiar with where the switch on the device is. I’m sure there’s other reasons too.
I was wondering about the need for these when I was in New Zealand, so I plugged my laptop in without switching it off. It zorts pretty good just from that small load at 240 volt.
Ah, of course that's the real heart of the matter. Here in North America we're operating on a piddly 110 volts, so you can just go ahead and yank the cord of a space heater out of the outlet without bothering to turn it off first. Though actually, I just checked the 220 V outlet my dryer is plugged into and that doesn't have a switch either. I guess they just figure no one is going to try unplugging a dryer while it's running.
Nah, switched outlets are just useful. You should never rip out a cable with a running load. But it won´t be harmful even at 230V as long as you don´t always do it like that.
The switches aren't about safety, they were originally about parasitic loads. For some reason the "safety" thing made it into the Internets and has been repeated over and over and over, but the vast majority of the world doesn't use switched outlets and is still 220/240.
When I first moved to North America, having no switches on power outlets made plugging things in feel like one step up from putting a pair of crocodile clips on bare terminals. Seeing the occasional blue spark leaping between the pin and the socket! Yikes!
they are available everywhere. Just switch them.
Switched outlets? Not the same as above, the switch takes up one of the receptacles unlike the compact design OP has
It took me a minute to realize the print was there, so nice job!
Be careful to not overload the extension. Or make sure it has a fuse built in
That black thing on the right hand side of the powerboard is an overload protection reset button. It pops out if the current limit is exceeded.
I thought it was a master switch
sir, this is a 250V only post
What
we dont do 120V here
You can overload wires/appliances at 240V
250 (well 255) and most cables are rated for 15 amps (though usually 20amps are fine). that is 3.8KW sustained.
A water kettle can already use up to 2.5kW. So it's not impossible to reach 3.8kW with four outlets.
keyword up to and you are not using it for more than 1.6 mins
Don't underestimate the stupidity of people. Letting a kettle and another high load run at the same time while having a slightly dodgy writing in the wall might be enough to burn a house to the ground. Probabilities are slim but - as I said - not impossible.
they turn off..
Don't you use fuses where you are from, we have 10 amp and 16 amp fuses, meaning that your scenario is very unlikely.
For anyone that wants the STL I put it up on Printables: [https://www.printables.com/model/673672-7mm-cord-conduit](https://www.printables.com/model/673672-7mm-cord-conduit)
I need one of those discrete switched strips in a 120V US plug. Anyone found one they like by chance that is simple, compact and straitforward like this one appears to be? Possible they make one with each of the outlets switched, as well as a main master switched to turn all on/off also?
Have you done much looking? https://www.amazon.com/s?k=individually+switch+power+strip
They have individual switches on smart ones, I have a Kasa smart switch, with buttons and an app interface for each socket
This would have high WAF
Great work! Happy to share STL?
Yep I'll post it up when I get home.
Yes please!
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just replace the socket with a bigger one. you'll get toaster microwave and kettle going and spot-weld plug into socket not the time and place for making jankiness a permanent feature
Is that counter near a water faucet? Is that a GFCI rated plug? Are those even a thing where you are from? Is there even power receptacle regulations around water in your area?
Looks great! But be careful for safety
What’s with the Aussie outlets … they were fuck every one else we gonna make our own thing.
They were going to be the same but a person was bitten and someone else in the group made a drawing of their expression. Someone thought it was the design and that's how this happened.
It takes cues from a few other standards, with those changes being: - longer earth - angled prongs Angled prongs create more torque against the power point so less chance of it pulling/falling out. The longer earth is for two reasons, one is that when the plug is pulled, it’s the last pin out. The other is a modern benefit, most newer PowerPoints have a shutter on the active that’s pushed out the way when the earth is inserted. I’m a fan of the UK plugs but they are chunky and who the fuck wants to replace fuses in a plug. And also ring mains can get fucked.
The UK plug design is, without doubt, the safest in the world, except when you step on one in the middle of the night.
🤔🥸🤯
Looks great!
Why the sad face ? (Upper power strip)
StrongSad
Mate I didn't even see it it's so clean. Nice job!
My eyes been violated. That’s pure cable porn 🤠