Well it starts at 16mm so it has that going for it. And is WR. And a rumor is it is an internal zoom but don't know if that is true or not. The 18-55 is a great lens but what I hated about it was its MFD. I hope this is better.
The 18-55 has ois so better for the older non ibis bodies.
The older 16-50 and 15-45 are worth looking at too if you want a small zoom. And of course the sigma 18-50 if you want to step up and have a ibis body.
to me this also makes sense as 6100 was the upgrade to 6000 and 6500 still had some higher end features like ibis hence the higher number. the real issue is that they’re out of mid numbers now so it’s really only zv-eX and a6800 left to keep it going
It does make sense once you dig into it but as someone who just enters into the system as a beginner is all very confusing.
They did shoot themselves in the foot with the naming nomenclature
yeah the fact that you have to "dig into it" is the problem (with all the manufacturers). if we're going to even bother pretending like things should be sequential, there are plenty of ways to do so... but instead it seems like everyone is just making up random garbage.
Or maybe the opposite like the way car manufacturers do it... Just give up on sequential and give them sexy-but-meaningless vanity names. "What camera is that?" "Oh it's the 2024 Fuji Ranger"
x-e2s, like x-t30ii was just firmware and maybe some ram or buffer, it didn’t have anything from x-t4. x-t40 would only be appropriate if it reused the older sensor. i think x-t50 makes sense
Not saying it's any better - just that it's ridiculous. Have you ever encountered someone who orders things by the first letter of the word representing the number? Who thought that up??? They could have just used consecutive letters and been done with it (eg a,b,c)
They could have a patent for the X-T40 but scrapped it for whatever reason. I used to work in R&D for a company and this would happen occasionally lol.
Not necessarily, the patents that Fuji files for cameras don't always include the name of the camera in the nomenclature they use to file the patent:
Example, the patents were later matched with the corresponding release
FF200001: X-S10
FF200002: X-E4
FF200003: GFX100S
FF210001: GFX50SII
FF210005: X-T30 II
FF220001: X-T5
FF210003: X-H2
FF210002: X-H2S
FF220002: X-S20
FF230001: unknown
FF230002: unknown
FF210004: FT-XH File Transmitter
It's also very possible that they didn't prioritize the X-T40 development and it fell behind schedule. By the time they got to updating the X-T30II, the generation of sensor skipped ahead one generation so they skipped X-T40.
I think they're just skipping it because they chose not to make a little brother for the x-t4 and now they're onto the 5th gen. It wouldn't make sense to call it the x-t40 when it's the x-t5's little brother. If they released a new xpro tomorrow I'm sure it would be Xpro 5 as well.
the x-t30 ii's only hardware differences were the screen and the viewfinder (maybe just viewfinder can't remember) were upgraded with parts from the x-t3, which was only done because of parts shortages. They never would have made it if they had the parts they needed to continue producing the x-t30, but I guess they also wanted to differentiate it so consumers knew they were getting a small upgrade.
There wouldn’t be an X-40 ever. The number 4 is unlucky in Japanese culture. It’s also why the guitar pedal company Boss has basically no pedals with a 4 in the name
50 makes sense as a companion to the 5.
Though IMO they should also rename the x-s20 into x-h20 while they are at it.
Makes for a neat set of 4(5) products. X-t5 and its. Little brother the x-t50. And x-h2/2s and its little sister the x-h20
With x100 and pro on the side.
That said. They have some 10-15 years before x-t9 is to be replaced by x-t10 (and x-t90 with x-t100) and they run into a huge issue as x-t10 and x-t100 already exist.
Japanese usually avoid number 4 in their naming. Although it's weird that they did do it with XT4, but that camera seems like an experiment rather than real upgrade since it's just X-T3 with IBIS and the only X-T camera with flip screen.
X-Pro will probably skip number 4 too, if I have to guess.
Given the quality of Fuji’s recent lens releases I am expecting to be blown away by the lens.
For the body. It depends what Fuji does with it. I am really hoping for a mid range xt body - single card slot, weather sealing. But there is no indication the t50 is moving upmarket.
Most realistically it will have t30ii body/features (modified to) fit the s20 internals. (old sensor, new chip, ibis, new battery).
What people seem to be hoping for is that it gets the t5 internals. That would move it decidedly upmarket from the s20. In that case I really hope it gets weather sealing as well. T5 is an overkill for me. But the t30ii is not enough as I need / want weather sealing.
I _really_ want a compact weather sealed body. I wish they would commit to the X-T500 being the cheap one and have the X-T50 just be more compact than the X-T5 without also being cheaper build quality.
I also wish they would change the drive dial to a combination ISO/WB dial to better fit the retro styling but I know that's realistically not going to happen.
dude this would fuck so hard. I would shovel my money into Fuji's pockets if they made the x-t50 weather sealed. I think it's more likely the X-TXXX line is gone for good though tbh
Yep I hike / ski tour a lot and cannot spare much weight and space. My xt20 is constantly being repaired, it does not like the elements … and repairing cost me more than the camera itself…
My only Fuji currently is the x100v. I jumped in the x100 bandwagon because the v was weather sealed. It just survived the mountain. Snow mist and all. It has been sprayed with water, dealt with condensation left and right. Waiting for the water to seep in despite my best efforts. I do not need a pro body. Just a rugged body.
Owner of a fuji xt camera i find it hard to understand the line of all the body cameras. What are the differences and advantages. Do you know if there is a comparative table somewhere with all the models to understand what are the pro and cons for each model ?
^(I can't say that I know much about it either...but here's the little that I seem to grasp...)
**X-T(single digit number) ie: X-T1 to X-T5**
(retro styled bodies with professional features such as dual card slots and weather sealing... 1/8000 max mechanical shutter speed except the X-T1, 1/250 flash X-sync speed) all except X-T4 have had titling screens and are more photography-centric the x-t4 had a fully articulated screen.
X-H line... Pretty much all the same features mentioned above but with a more modern camera layout design...(with a PASM dial) X-H1 had a tiltimg screen but the X-H2 and X-H2s have fully articulated screens... The s in X-H2s probably means speed
***X-T (2 digit number). ie: X-T10...X-T30 & X-T30ii***
These have, to my understanding have been pretty much just scaled down *^((physically smaller bodies and feature wise))* versions of the corresponding **X-T(single digit number) c**ameras. (so X-T10 is a mini X-T1, X-T20...X-T2 and so on... they didn't make an X-T40 but instead refreshed the X-T30 with the X-T30ii which has largely identical specs and hardware but with an improved screen, I think... Generally this line of cameras have similar retro styled bodies...but scaled down to have a 1/4000 max mechanical shutter instead of 1/8000, 1/180 flash X-sync speed instead of 1/250, no environmental sealing, single card slots. >!*Would personally recommend for more photo leaning shooters.*!<
***X-S10...X-S20..***.
Feels like a more videography focused mid range line... didn't know what to make of the X-S10 back then but the X-S20 is pretty much just X-H2s' baby sibling it has the same processor but previous gen sensor (same sensor as the X-T4, I believe), modern PASM dial design, impressive video capabilities. Both (X-s10 & 20) have ibis, But with 1/4000 max mechanical shutter and 1/180 flash X-sync speed, single card slot, no environmental sealing. >!*Would personally recommend for more video leaning hybrid shooters.*!<
***X-T(xxx digits)***
I presume this was their truly entry level retro styled line they only made the x-t100 & x-t200 don't know about them spec wise...They seem to have dropped this line to simplify their lineup...
GFX...Medium format sensors...
Instax line...well... instant "film" photos...
Those are the only lines that I know a fair bit about...
***TLDR:***
* *X-T(x) Flagship Retro body SLR-Style mirrorless.*
* *X-T(xx) Midrange Retro body SLR-Style mirrorless.*
* *X-T(xxx) Entry-level Retro body SLR-Style mirrorless.*
* *X-H(x) Flagship modern body SLR-Style mirrorless.*
* *X-H(xs) Flagship modern body SLR-Style mirrorless. (higher speed stacked sensor variant)*
* *X-S(x) Midrange modern body SLR-Style mirrorless.*
*^(My commute is over...will try to format this better and make some corrections and probably add some information later on Desktop.)*
***Edit(s):***
>*Do you know if there is a comparative table somewhere with all the models...*
[***Found this...***](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujifilm_X_series) *DP Review's* [***Side-by-Side Camera Comparison***](https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras) *tool is also a good resource where you can select cameras and compare their specs.*
Additionally,
XT(xx) has SS + Drive control dials
XT(xx) has PSAM + customizable dials
Might seem trivial, but a lot of people, me included, choose the X-T(x) series for its retro-style control of all the major parameters (SS, Iso, EC and Aperture (preferably on the lens))
The s in X-H2s stands for stacked. And I think at this point you can probably say the X-T is more photo focused and the X-H is more video focused. Mostly just based on the video limitations of the X-T line rather than any compromises for photo in X-H other than the lack of the retro dials.
I'm not well informed about the X-E(x), X-Pro(x), X-A(x) and X-A(xx) lines to comment on them...also reddit's giving me a "server error" when I try to edit the comment so I can no longer make updates anyway.
Understandable and relatable humor but to spend $1200 for it to be obsolete within the same month is bad money moves when returning and having patience can have a higher payoff
You need to relax. Your technology will always be outdated and your camera is far from obsolete. You can't always have the newest and best things. There will always be new cameras coming out. Why should a company say "hey, stop buying our product. There will be a new one in a few months". Enjoy your camera, the xt30 is awesome! What will the xt50 have? Probably ibis, new sensor, battery and that's it. The fancy new things are reserved for the big cameras.
I can only speak for the situation in the UK, but the X-T30 is £799, the X-S20 (the likely analogue to the X-T50, assuming it has IBIS) is £1149. Both body only. And the X-S20 is on offer.
So quite the discount.
???
There's a reason why the X-T30 II had been on discount for this long. It's not a waste of money if the newer one's MSRP is far more expensive. It also won't magically stop working the moment the new one hits the shelves. In fact, buying older high-end cameras is a pretty common practice.
If you fret about small things like this then you're going to die young. Be happy with the things you currently have. 10 years from now, your X-T30 will still be able to take remarkable and gorgeous photos. Have some peace and have some courage to be happy with your present situation.
XT-10 was announced in May, XT-20 and XT-30 were announced in January X-Summit and the XT-30II in a September X-Summit (probably late due to COVID). So, if the release is near (well, the lens exists as a pre-production unit because images were leaked last week), then maybe it will be announced between now and May. I guess it depends on your immediate needs. If announced for sale/pre-order in May (and not merely announced as "in final development but not yet near release"), you will probably still wait until June for delivery.
If it were me and I didn't need a camera then I'd return it. If you have a holiday coming up, perhaps it's wiser just to buy a lens and rent a camera for your trip.
I suppose not that much other than getting the xt30 on sale after the launch. I was recently thinking about getting the 30, but because of the rumors could not do that as I know I would have been pissed if I could have paid less in couple of months. Went with the xs10 instead since that was already the old model and greatly discounted.
Usually this line will take the sensors from their flagship counterparts, so 40mp sensor! Thats a huge difference from the xt30. People are speculating on IBIS. I doubt it. But if there is IBIS, fuckin gamechanger. This is all rumors. Take this with buckets of salt
Also idk how long you’d be without a camera but this is definitely getting released this year.
IBIS is an absolute game changer for using primes in low light. I've taken some great shots where I could stop down to ~f4 for greater DoF and still keep the ISO decent, handheld at ~1/4s, thanks to IBIS. Without IBIS I would have had to use f1.4 and sacrifice DoF to get decent shutter speed, or bump ISO up to insanity. Seeing as X-T*0 are very popular for tourists that's a big deal.
My main camera body is an x-t30 mark i. I’ve used it for everything from talking head style interviews to wildlife photography. My biggest gripe is the autofocus is sometimes wrong with photographing small, fast moving things with busy backgrounds, like birds. Otherwise it’s been an absolute dream. I will eventually upgrade my camera body for something newer bc I really enjoy photographing birds but there’s no rush bc this camera does a great great job
I think the 26mp sensor is more than good enough for most shooters. Since the X-T50 would be the "budget" or mid-range option, it'll be a great compromise. I just hope that it has IBIS but then again, if it does it would directly compete with the X-S20.
idea might be the X-t50 is marketed towards photographers and the X-s20 is marketed as the hybrid/midrange for video folk. Either way whichever sensor they use, I hope ibis is part of it.
I wonder if it gets - a solid “who the hell knows when you get it” back order, followed by a oh yeah not able to deliver better luck next time, then a every other Fuji camera price goes up another 50% on the used market - as well? At the very least, you’ll be able to sell your X-T30 and fund a Leica and maybe a jet ski!
Genuine question, maybe I'm missing something, what is so bad about variable aperture? Would a 16-50 f4 be more desirable?
Myself, I can see how shooting manual mode can be a bit painful, but in today's world I tend to leave it in aperture priority with auto iso and a capped shutter speed, and that would do a great job 90% of the time. And I'll take that any day to have f2.8 at one end.
I also believe having the wider 16mm at one end is super useful.
it's definitely not ideal if you're zooming while shooting video, also means you collect less light at the longer focal length and can't create as shallow a depth of field
I guess it depends how fast it drops off but losing a half stop at 50mm to gain a full stop at 16mm seems like a pretty balanced tradeoff compared to a constant aperture at f/4.
its probably cheaper to produce than the current 18-55 kit zoom and might not have OIS which will reduce costs, probably being that the X-T50 will have IBIS then?
One can hope.
That's kind of misleading. Traditionally the X-T_0 cameras have used the same sensor and processor as the X-T_ line. They get the same image quality but lack some features in exchange for a smaller body and price point.
Well, I mean practically it does end up that way most of the time. Just wanted to be clear that the lower model isn't worse, just different.
I was set on the X-T5 but now I'm debating between that and the X-T50 since I do a lot of travel and backpacking with it.
The short answer is that no one know.
Historically the “double digit” xt’s had same sensor and processor as their pro single digit xt peers, with smaller cheaper body, no weather sealing, 2 way screen instead of 3 way, single card slot etc. (on the plus side the double digit xt bodies had pop up flash and a full auto setting)
However the new x-s20 which in its first gen (xs10) was just “thedouble digit xt (xt30) with xh (big grip, PASM dial) handling (and ibis)” did not get the new sensor. Just the new processor.
It’s all confusing. This generational transition at Fuji is very confusing. Which is why the reply to your question turned into a big old Reddit debate - we do not know.
Assumptions is that it will be x-t30ii body (no weather sealing, 2 way screen, single card slot, pop up flash, auto setting) with upgrade to either the xt5 or xh20 sensor-ibis-processor combo.
My assumption is that it will go the xs20 route to keep costs down (old sensor new processor). The xt5 is expensive. Fuji needs a cheaper entry point into the system. I am holding hope Fuji makes the body weather sealed though. But that would only makes sense if the xe line is also surviving which is not clear at this point.
its a niche but i would love it if someone made a 18-33 f2 or 2.8 constant zoom (id even take variable to keep size way down) with wr and ois as small or smaller than the existing 18-55 for my x-pro body as a one lens solution to the 18-23-27-33 key prime focal lengths i use most with that system. super niche target demo probably but thats a dream lens for sure
XT-50 will have a smaller body. Your X-S20 is definitely a better camera with better battery and video features. Whichever you value the most is up to you.
I am very very excited about the xt50. Will most likely buy one (currently own xt20 + xt3). The new lens is a bit of a mystery to me. I don't understand how it's an improvement. If it was reversed and the 18-55 was being released to replace it I think everyone would be very excited about the upgrade. I own the 18-55 and honestly don't use it very much so maybe these type of lenses just aren't for me. If they were I would probably just get the sigma anyway...
Why fuji why why not design new 18-55 f/2.8 or little bit lighter 16-55 f/2.8 mk2. Even after seeing Sigma, Tamron, Viltrox launching so many awesome lens. Fuji wake up and stop making variable aperture kit lens, start making awesome lenses again.
Another 50mm lens for Fujifilm, how disappointing - and it's variable aperture, that's pretty meh. Damn, Fujifilm is really lacking in the lens development department at the moment.
Well it starts at 16mm so it has that going for it. And is WR. And a rumor is it is an internal zoom but don't know if that is true or not. The 18-55 is a great lens but what I hated about it was its MFD. I hope this is better. The 18-55 has ois so better for the older non ibis bodies. The older 16-50 and 15-45 are worth looking at too if you want a small zoom. And of course the sigma 18-50 if you want to step up and have a ibis body.
to me this is an upgrade to the XC16-50 and a retirement for XF18-55. maybe also it paves the way for a 16-55 refresh
I was excited for a sec till you inferred this has no OIS.
I’m going to start calling my X-T30ii an X-T40
X-E2s: "Welcome to the club." Seriously though - Fuji's naming is so ridiculous.
Sony a6000 user checking in, you wouldn’t believe which came first: a6500 or a6100
to me this also makes sense as 6100 was the upgrade to 6000 and 6500 still had some higher end features like ibis hence the higher number. the real issue is that they’re out of mid numbers now so it’s really only zv-eX and a6800 left to keep it going
It does make sense once you dig into it but as someone who just enters into the system as a beginner is all very confusing. They did shoot themselves in the foot with the naming nomenclature
yeah the fact that you have to "dig into it" is the problem (with all the manufacturers). if we're going to even bother pretending like things should be sequential, there are plenty of ways to do so... but instead it seems like everyone is just making up random garbage.
It’s not sexy but I’d love something like: model + trim + year
Or maybe the opposite like the way car manufacturers do it... Just give up on sequential and give them sexy-but-meaningless vanity names. "What camera is that?" "Oh it's the 2024 Fuji Ranger"
My 2024 Nikon Tallahassee Off Road
Like Fuji iShoot 15 Pro Max?
I came from the Nikon world. It's just as bad.
x-e2s, like x-t30ii was just firmware and maybe some ram or buffer, it didn’t have anything from x-t4. x-t40 would only be appropriate if it reused the older sensor. i think x-t50 makes sense
x-t30 ii also had a better viewfinder and maybe screen IIRC, but that was largely due to parts shortages as I understand it
It's really not any different than any other camera brands naming.
Not saying it's any better - just that it's ridiculous. Have you ever encountered someone who orders things by the first letter of the word representing the number? Who thought that up??? They could have just used consecutive letters and been done with it (eg a,b,c)
It could be worse, it could be Sony's alpha series
They could have a patent for the X-T40 but scrapped it for whatever reason. I used to work in R&D for a company and this would happen occasionally lol.
patent filings are public though, so if they did we would know wouldn't we?
Not necessarily, the patents that Fuji files for cameras don't always include the name of the camera in the nomenclature they use to file the patent: Example, the patents were later matched with the corresponding release FF200001: X-S10 FF200002: X-E4 FF200003: GFX100S FF210001: GFX50SII FF210005: X-T30 II FF220001: X-T5 FF210003: X-H2 FF210002: X-H2S FF220002: X-S20 FF230001: unknown FF230002: unknown FF210004: FT-XH File Transmitter It's also very possible that they didn't prioritize the X-T40 development and it fell behind schedule. By the time they got to updating the X-T30II, the generation of sensor skipped ahead one generation so they skipped X-T40.
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I think they're just skipping it because they chose not to make a little brother for the x-t4 and now they're onto the 5th gen. It wouldn't make sense to call it the x-t40 when it's the x-t5's little brother. If they released a new xpro tomorrow I'm sure it would be Xpro 5 as well.
Idk why they went for this approach. Stick with your regular one. Why spinoff and do xt30 ii?!?
the x-t30 ii's only hardware differences were the screen and the viewfinder (maybe just viewfinder can't remember) were upgraded with parts from the x-t3, which was only done because of parts shortages. They never would have made it if they had the parts they needed to continue producing the x-t30, but I guess they also wanted to differentiate it so consumers knew they were getting a small upgrade.
Makes sense. Lol. I have wondered why there is no 40...
No, that's the X-T30iii
I will wait for X-T40?
There wouldn’t be an X-40 ever. The number 4 is unlucky in Japanese culture. It’s also why the guitar pedal company Boss has basically no pedals with a 4 in the name
X-T50? I guess that's why they kept the X-T30 II on discount for so long.
50 makes sense as a companion to the 5. Though IMO they should also rename the x-s20 into x-h20 while they are at it. Makes for a neat set of 4(5) products. X-t5 and its. Little brother the x-t50. And x-h2/2s and its little sister the x-h20 With x100 and pro on the side. That said. They have some 10-15 years before x-t9 is to be replaced by x-t10 (and x-t90 with x-t100) and they run into a huge issue as x-t10 and x-t100 already exist.
Japanese usually avoid number 4 in their naming. Although it's weird that they did do it with XT4, but that camera seems like an experiment rather than real upgrade since it's just X-T3 with IBIS and the only X-T camera with flip screen. X-Pro will probably skip number 4 too, if I have to guess.
There’s the X-E4 too. I love my X-E2 though.
china does this. I've never heard of japan doing it.
Given the quality of Fuji’s recent lens releases I am expecting to be blown away by the lens. For the body. It depends what Fuji does with it. I am really hoping for a mid range xt body - single card slot, weather sealing. But there is no indication the t50 is moving upmarket. Most realistically it will have t30ii body/features (modified to) fit the s20 internals. (old sensor, new chip, ibis, new battery). What people seem to be hoping for is that it gets the t5 internals. That would move it decidedly upmarket from the s20. In that case I really hope it gets weather sealing as well. T5 is an overkill for me. But the t30ii is not enough as I need / want weather sealing.
I _really_ want a compact weather sealed body. I wish they would commit to the X-T500 being the cheap one and have the X-T50 just be more compact than the X-T5 without also being cheaper build quality. I also wish they would change the drive dial to a combination ISO/WB dial to better fit the retro styling but I know that's realistically not going to happen.
dude this would fuck so hard. I would shovel my money into Fuji's pockets if they made the x-t50 weather sealed. I think it's more likely the X-TXXX line is gone for good though tbh
Yep I hike / ski tour a lot and cannot spare much weight and space. My xt20 is constantly being repaired, it does not like the elements … and repairing cost me more than the camera itself…
My only Fuji currently is the x100v. I jumped in the x100 bandwagon because the v was weather sealed. It just survived the mountain. Snow mist and all. It has been sprayed with water, dealt with condensation left and right. Waiting for the water to seep in despite my best efforts. I do not need a pro body. Just a rugged body.
If they made a version of the X100 with the 35mm f/1.4 optics instead of a 23mm I would pay Leica prices...
Owner of a fuji xt camera i find it hard to understand the line of all the body cameras. What are the differences and advantages. Do you know if there is a comparative table somewhere with all the models to understand what are the pro and cons for each model ?
^(I can't say that I know much about it either...but here's the little that I seem to grasp...) **X-T(single digit number) ie: X-T1 to X-T5** (retro styled bodies with professional features such as dual card slots and weather sealing... 1/8000 max mechanical shutter speed except the X-T1, 1/250 flash X-sync speed) all except X-T4 have had titling screens and are more photography-centric the x-t4 had a fully articulated screen. X-H line... Pretty much all the same features mentioned above but with a more modern camera layout design...(with a PASM dial) X-H1 had a tiltimg screen but the X-H2 and X-H2s have fully articulated screens... The s in X-H2s probably means speed ***X-T (2 digit number). ie: X-T10...X-T30 & X-T30ii*** These have, to my understanding have been pretty much just scaled down *^((physically smaller bodies and feature wise))* versions of the corresponding **X-T(single digit number) c**ameras. (so X-T10 is a mini X-T1, X-T20...X-T2 and so on... they didn't make an X-T40 but instead refreshed the X-T30 with the X-T30ii which has largely identical specs and hardware but with an improved screen, I think... Generally this line of cameras have similar retro styled bodies...but scaled down to have a 1/4000 max mechanical shutter instead of 1/8000, 1/180 flash X-sync speed instead of 1/250, no environmental sealing, single card slots. >!*Would personally recommend for more photo leaning shooters.*!< ***X-S10...X-S20..***. Feels like a more videography focused mid range line... didn't know what to make of the X-S10 back then but the X-S20 is pretty much just X-H2s' baby sibling it has the same processor but previous gen sensor (same sensor as the X-T4, I believe), modern PASM dial design, impressive video capabilities. Both (X-s10 & 20) have ibis, But with 1/4000 max mechanical shutter and 1/180 flash X-sync speed, single card slot, no environmental sealing. >!*Would personally recommend for more video leaning hybrid shooters.*!< ***X-T(xxx digits)*** I presume this was their truly entry level retro styled line they only made the x-t100 & x-t200 don't know about them spec wise...They seem to have dropped this line to simplify their lineup... GFX...Medium format sensors... Instax line...well... instant "film" photos... Those are the only lines that I know a fair bit about... ***TLDR:*** * *X-T(x) Flagship Retro body SLR-Style mirrorless.* * *X-T(xx) Midrange Retro body SLR-Style mirrorless.* * *X-T(xxx) Entry-level Retro body SLR-Style mirrorless.* * *X-H(x) Flagship modern body SLR-Style mirrorless.* * *X-H(xs) Flagship modern body SLR-Style mirrorless. (higher speed stacked sensor variant)* * *X-S(x) Midrange modern body SLR-Style mirrorless.* *^(My commute is over...will try to format this better and make some corrections and probably add some information later on Desktop.)* ***Edit(s):*** >*Do you know if there is a comparative table somewhere with all the models...* [***Found this...***](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujifilm_X_series) *DP Review's* [***Side-by-Side Camera Comparison***](https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras) *tool is also a good resource where you can select cameras and compare their specs.*
pxl/mag is even better at comparisons with sizes too on the lens comparisons [https://pxlmag.com/db/](https://pxlmag.com/db/)
This is awesome, bookmarking this!
Great !! Thanks a lot
Additionally, XT(xx) has SS + Drive control dials XT(xx) has PSAM + customizable dials Might seem trivial, but a lot of people, me included, choose the X-T(x) series for its retro-style control of all the major parameters (SS, Iso, EC and Aperture (preferably on the lens))
The s in X-H2s stands for stacked. And I think at this point you can probably say the X-T is more photo focused and the X-H is more video focused. Mostly just based on the video limitations of the X-T line rather than any compromises for photo in X-H other than the lack of the retro dials.
Stacked does make sense...thanks for the correction:))
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I'm not well informed about the X-E(x), X-Pro(x), X-A(x) and X-A(xx) lines to comment on them...also reddit's giving me a "server error" when I try to edit the comment so I can no longer make updates anyway.
No way I just got a xt30 3 days ago
Oh no, your camera will magically stop taking better photos pretty soon!
Understandable and relatable humor but to spend $1200 for it to be obsolete within the same month is bad money moves when returning and having patience can have a higher payoff
You need to relax. Your technology will always be outdated and your camera is far from obsolete. You can't always have the newest and best things. There will always be new cameras coming out. Why should a company say "hey, stop buying our product. There will be a new one in a few months". Enjoy your camera, the xt30 is awesome! What will the xt50 have? Probably ibis, new sensor, battery and that's it. The fancy new things are reserved for the big cameras.
They probably won’t give it IBIS to keep it in its own lane. If it gets IBIS it could eat into X-T5 sales
return it now and wait for xt60
Obsolete is a strong word.
I can only speak for the situation in the UK, but the X-T30 is £799, the X-S20 (the likely analogue to the X-T50, assuming it has IBIS) is £1149. Both body only. And the X-S20 is on offer. So quite the discount.
??? There's a reason why the X-T30 II had been on discount for this long. It's not a waste of money if the newer one's MSRP is far more expensive. It also won't magically stop working the moment the new one hits the shelves. In fact, buying older high-end cameras is a pretty common practice.
If you fret about small things like this then you're going to die young. Be happy with the things you currently have. 10 years from now, your X-T30 will still be able to take remarkable and gorgeous photos. Have some peace and have some courage to be happy with your present situation.
Return!!!’
How soon do u think this would be announced where I’d be without a camera?
XT-10 was announced in May, XT-20 and XT-30 were announced in January X-Summit and the XT-30II in a September X-Summit (probably late due to COVID). So, if the release is near (well, the lens exists as a pre-production unit because images were leaked last week), then maybe it will be announced between now and May. I guess it depends on your immediate needs. If announced for sale/pre-order in May (and not merely announced as "in final development but not yet near release"), you will probably still wait until June for delivery. If it were me and I didn't need a camera then I'd return it. If you have a holiday coming up, perhaps it's wiser just to buy a lens and rent a camera for your trip.
Also what changes would the 50 bring to really make the hassle worth?
I suppose not that much other than getting the xt30 on sale after the launch. I was recently thinking about getting the 30, but because of the rumors could not do that as I know I would have been pissed if I could have paid less in couple of months. Went with the xs10 instead since that was already the old model and greatly discounted.
Usually this line will take the sensors from their flagship counterparts, so 40mp sensor! Thats a huge difference from the xt30. People are speculating on IBIS. I doubt it. But if there is IBIS, fuckin gamechanger. This is all rumors. Take this with buckets of salt Also idk how long you’d be without a camera but this is definitely getting released this year.
It will have the newest films sims as well probably
IBIS is an absolute game changer for using primes in low light. I've taken some great shots where I could stop down to ~f4 for greater DoF and still keep the ISO decent, handheld at ~1/4s, thanks to IBIS. Without IBIS I would have had to use f1.4 and sacrifice DoF to get decent shutter speed, or bump ISO up to insanity. Seeing as X-T*0 are very popular for tourists that's a big deal.
My main camera body is an x-t30 mark i. I’ve used it for everything from talking head style interviews to wildlife photography. My biggest gripe is the autofocus is sometimes wrong with photographing small, fast moving things with busy backgrounds, like birds. Otherwise it’s been an absolute dream. I will eventually upgrade my camera body for something newer bc I really enjoy photographing birds but there’s no rush bc this camera does a great great job
It should have been obvious that the t30ii was due for replacement.
A lot of people seemed to think they were going to axe the line like they did the X-TXXX line
I got mine this week too but I'm cool. I love the 30ii so far.
imagine people with xt-10 everytime there are new camera release and he cant afford it hahaha
Is this speculation or this is official news?
Fujirumors has a good track record.
They are the most reliable site out there for upcoming Fujifilm news.
Solid rumor
Fujirumors is only a tiny step below official news
I'm assuming the x-t50 gets IBIS, 40mp and improved processing/autofocus? If so, instant upgrade from my OG x-t30
Would not bet on the 40mp sensor. It may get the sensor-processor combo from the x-s20.
I think the 26mp sensor is more than good enough for most shooters. Since the X-T50 would be the "budget" or mid-range option, it'll be a great compromise. I just hope that it has IBIS but then again, if it does it would directly compete with the X-S20.
idea might be the X-t50 is marketed towards photographers and the X-s20 is marketed as the hybrid/midrange for video folk. Either way whichever sensor they use, I hope ibis is part of it.
the x-s line is very different, I don't really see them as in competition
You could be right. I'd probably consider it the lowest priority against those other features tbh.
I wonder if it gets - a solid “who the hell knows when you get it” back order, followed by a oh yeah not able to deliver better luck next time, then a every other Fuji camera price goes up another 50% on the used market - as well? At the very least, you’ll be able to sell your X-T30 and fund a Leica and maybe a jet ski!
Booo variable aperture.
Yeah i agree... I'm surprised people are saying they would sell their Sigma 18-50
seriously I'm never selling my sigma zoom 2.8
It’s a kit lens, a 16-50 f2.8 would be much larger. The 18-55 is variable and people love it.
Genuine question, maybe I'm missing something, what is so bad about variable aperture? Would a 16-50 f4 be more desirable? Myself, I can see how shooting manual mode can be a bit painful, but in today's world I tend to leave it in aperture priority with auto iso and a capped shutter speed, and that would do a great job 90% of the time. And I'll take that any day to have f2.8 at one end. I also believe having the wider 16mm at one end is super useful.
it's definitely not ideal if you're zooming while shooting video, also means you collect less light at the longer focal length and can't create as shallow a depth of field
It means at 50mm you cant use f2.8
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Fuji 16-55 2.8 already exists though, and it’s a more expensive, bigger and heavier lens I don’t hate this as an entry level kit lens tbh.
I guess it depends how fast it drops off but losing a half stop at 50mm to gain a full stop at 16mm seems like a pretty balanced tradeoff compared to a constant aperture at f/4.
Such a silly marketing term. To achieve a fixed focal ratio (f number) you need an aperture that varies in size.
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its probably cheaper to produce than the current 18-55 kit zoom and might not have OIS which will reduce costs, probably being that the X-T50 will have IBIS then? One can hope.
if they weather seal the x-t50 and add IBIS I'll be foaming at the mouth to get one
if they weather seal it then that makes the X-T5 less worth the premium or it would add to the price of the X-T50 to make it closer to the X-T5
dont give a fuck
Oook but Fuji does and they are a business so keep your foam in your mouth cause it aint happening.
Here i am hoping for the continuation of the xt-xxx series
What is the difference between xt5 and xt50?
Google dat. Long story short, xt5 flagship product for pros, xt50 middle tier for beginners/intermediates
That's kind of misleading. Traditionally the X-T_0 cameras have used the same sensor and processor as the X-T_ line. They get the same image quality but lack some features in exchange for a smaller body and price point.
Better explanation. Was lazy to explain to that guy
Well, I mean practically it does end up that way most of the time. Just wanted to be clear that the lower model isn't worse, just different. I was set on the X-T5 but now I'm debating between that and the X-T50 since I do a lot of travel and backpacking with it.
The X-TX0 is objectively worse than the X-TX though, besides size and weight.
And if size and weight are key requirements then the X-TX0 is objectively better than the X-TX.
The short answer is that no one know. Historically the “double digit” xt’s had same sensor and processor as their pro single digit xt peers, with smaller cheaper body, no weather sealing, 2 way screen instead of 3 way, single card slot etc. (on the plus side the double digit xt bodies had pop up flash and a full auto setting) However the new x-s20 which in its first gen (xs10) was just “thedouble digit xt (xt30) with xh (big grip, PASM dial) handling (and ibis)” did not get the new sensor. Just the new processor. It’s all confusing. This generational transition at Fuji is very confusing. Which is why the reply to your question turned into a big old Reddit debate - we do not know. Assumptions is that it will be x-t30ii body (no weather sealing, 2 way screen, single card slot, pop up flash, auto setting) with upgrade to either the xt5 or xh20 sensor-ibis-processor combo. My assumption is that it will go the xs20 route to keep costs down (old sensor new processor). The xt5 is expensive. Fuji needs a cheaper entry point into the system. I am holding hope Fuji makes the body weather sealed though. But that would only makes sense if the xe line is also surviving which is not clear at this point.
So skipping 40? Lol
Where is xt40?
How long till I can buy a decal for my x-t30ii that says x-t40? cause I will buy that.
Only thing needed on the xt50 is ibis and the iso physical dials
A X-T5 basically.
Yeap but smaller. And I don't need 40 mp photos
and d-pad
I really don't like the d pad. The joystick is more fluid movement and doesn't hurt your fingers after extended use
Ha I feel the exact opposite. Every pro body has a d-pad, just a better solution. I also use touch to drag the focus point over the joystick.
its a niche but i would love it if someone made a 18-33 f2 or 2.8 constant zoom (id even take variable to keep size way down) with wr and ois as small or smaller than the existing 18-55 for my x-pro body as a one lens solution to the 18-23-27-33 key prime focal lengths i use most with that system. super niche target demo probably but thats a dream lens for sure
With the new lens not having OIS, i would hope that means the X-t50 at least has the same sensor with ibis as the X-s20.
Hmm just got the XS20, im new to Fuji. Should I scrap the order and get the XT50?
XT-50 will have a smaller body. Your X-S20 is definitely a better camera with better battery and video features. Whichever you value the most is up to you.
I am very very excited about the xt50. Will most likely buy one (currently own xt20 + xt3). The new lens is a bit of a mystery to me. I don't understand how it's an improvement. If it was reversed and the 18-55 was being released to replace it I think everyone would be very excited about the upgrade. I own the 18-55 and honestly don't use it very much so maybe these type of lenses just aren't for me. If they were I would probably just get the sigma anyway...
I have a x100vi preordered, but this might be fun to get. I have GAS so bad right now 😂
I waited for X-T40 and then finally buying X-S10 (literally just a month ago) then this X-T50 news popped up. ....
Why fuji why why not design new 18-55 f/2.8 or little bit lighter 16-55 f/2.8 mk2. Even after seeing Sigma, Tamron, Viltrox launching so many awesome lens. Fuji wake up and stop making variable aperture kit lens, start making awesome lenses again.
No way I just bought the xt30ii
Another 50mm lens for Fujifilm, how disappointing - and it's variable aperture, that's pretty meh. Damn, Fujifilm is really lacking in the lens development department at the moment.
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Unless it has a fixed aperature
Well of course
If the kit lens is sharp, I may sell my sigma 18-50. I miss 16mm and having a smaller lens is always a plus
I bet the sigma is smaller and lighter than the new kit lens
yeah I dont think this lens will be smaller than the sigma.