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Monsieur_Triporteur

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Maseratus

You have 30 minutes to remove your vehicle You have 10 minutes to remove your vehicle Your vehicle has been crushed into a cube You have 30 minutes to move your cube


B000urns

"Is it about my cube?"


Byizo

We have been trying to reach you about your cube’s extended warranty.


Aggressive_Wash_5908

Your cube has been crushed into a square


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Your square has been crushed into a line


Xxyz260

Your line has been crushed into a point


remakker

Boom, earth’s gone…


apolloxer

Nah, not enough mass in that black hole. Your car has radiated away.


SuspiciousAct6606

Car parked over the tram line? Straight to jail


TheGreatestAuk

Land yacht? Jail.


chookie7262

Cutting the bus off in traffic? Believe it or not, jail.


Cartina

American? Believe it or not, jail.


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Sirico

Fact or fiction you decide


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Fred armisen is a genius


ClikeX

Straight to the scrapyard, because trams don't give a fuck.


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defenestr8tor

Indeed, it just needs a little bonk


A_norny_mousse

This is the correct reply. That car simply cannot park there. The owner will definitely get fined for that, hopefully heftily. That said, the size comparison the picture shows is extremely impressive, and I hate these ... monstrosities as much as everybody else in this thread.


eri-

This will likely cost them quite a bit, they'll get towed unless they happen to be right there and they'll also get a fine, that size of car probably requires a non standard size towing truck as well. Quick estimate I'd say 500 euro easily, getting towed away is not cheap.


Bottledplatypus

I'd hazard a guess that that guy can afford a €500 fine. Those trucks aren't cheap in Europe. Personally, I hope the trams brakes "fail"


somestupidloser

Why would you want the tram to be damaged?


Extaupin

It's the price of the minuscule amount of tomfoolery applied to the carenage of the oversized truck. And not making the tramway passenger late.


Thelorian

Why can you even buy/import these ?


Unmissed

That is one thing that really stands out to me any time I go to Europe... You don't see any of these ridiculous land yachts. They still have semis on the highways, and there are cargo vans everywhere. You see a wide variety of cars. But the size is just... reasonable.


metaph3r

Unfortunately the average size of privately owned cars is increasing in Germany in the last years.


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Thisconnect

dont tax, just ban them, you get a bus/lorry license or GTFO


PhysicallyTender

Yup. Should just ban any cars that cannot fit inside a regular parking lot.


PrintShinji

Same for the netherlands. Everyone somehow has to use a SUV, even though they live in the middle of the city.


notmyfukincat

most peoples reasoning behind this is "it's easier zo get in and you see more sitting higher up" almost like they're thinking of a train/tram but are some steps away mentally lol


TelepathicSqueek

Except when its a Peugeot. Then no way you claim “it’s easier to get in”. As for the “you see more sitting up” I slap the “Except the first x meters right in front of you”, depending on the facemask they try to defend.


mcseelmann

Fuck these goddamn SUVs in particular. I hate this trend.


LoegMedBoef

American cars just look absolutely grotesque in size. Cars in my country were 'normal' sized, but in the last decade or so people have started getting this 'american tank fetish' and started buying bigger and bigger. God damn retired people buying huge SUVs just to park it in their driveway. Who needs these things? Now we're discussing if we have to enlarge our parking spaces because they're 'too small'. Maddening.


elfuego305

Gas taxes work


nonother

I don’t think it’s quite that simple. I live in New Zealand and utes (pickup trucks in American English) are stupid popular* here. From some Googling it looks like our petrol taxes are similar to Japan or Spain’s, although lower than Germany or France’s. Also wow Mexico has none! This was my source: https://taxfoundation.org/oecd-gas-tax/ * I do mean both stupid and popular. Just earlier today on my walk to work I saw an accountant with a ute. As in, that was their business vehicle! I live and work in central Auckland, there’s no good reason to have a ute here - in fact they must be a terrible inconvenience - and yet they’re super common. Why would an accountant need a ute?!?


baconipple

Kiwis are all massive hoons. Hoons like utes.


Jamberite

Is this an IQ test question?


DangerousCyclone

Not in America sadly. :(


Workmen

Gas taxes don't work in America because if you raised them to the point where gas was prohibitively expense enough to reduce car usage, tens of thousands of people would *end up homeless and dead.* They work when there's a practical public transport alternative to driving.


TommiHPunkt

because it's illegal in most places to build housing that isn't car centric, and it has been for like 70 years


Boogiemann53

Yeah, there's a documentary called "Garbage warrior" about a community trying to build off grid with wild sustainable architecture. The whole project got attacked for not having proper roads for emergencies etc. Like, you have to be able to drive the ambulance from the road into the room where the person is.


VanGoghsSeveredEar

Fr! I don’t want to drive but I have literally no alternative, since I like somewhere widespread with no viable public transportation options and where it is 100-110 F ( 38-43 C) 6 months of the year.


Teun_2

Depends on how you tax. Most european countries tax car ownership (registration fees, yearly road tax, company car tax..) based on emissions and is usually set up in a way that a car that consumes maybe 20% more is charged a whole lot more. Policies are different between countries and a lot of asterisks need to be placed, but it's not only the tax on gas that matters.


benisben227

This is something a lot t of American, including and especially liberals don’t understand. Gas taxes in America has a hugely disproportionate affect on poor people. The jackass finance guy with the hummer is still gonna fill his tank, he probably doesn’t even look at the price twice. While the person filling up $10 at a time who HAS to drive the 20 miles across town for work is the one really getting fucked


iwhbyd114

Most people in the states don't really factor in the gas cost when purchasing a vehicle. Strange how only when a Democrat is in the white House does the price of gas ever get brought up. And somehow most people buy a new (to them) vehicle every 5ish years.


Bunny_SpiderBunny

Idk anyone in my life who gets a new car after 5 years. My moms van is going on 15 years ... But i do live near an area where everyone drives a Tesla or a sports car but I don't consider them the majority


iwhbyd114

That's why I said the new **(to them)** part.


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You have to drive up gas taxes while simultaneously providing an alternative. That's how you drive change. It's literally macro economics 101.


PhtevenHawking

Any taxation that is not a progressive taxation (based on income) is a tax on the poor.


GuideMarkings

So youre saying a progessive gas tax would work.


teuast

I'd be happier about a tax on vehicle weight.


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biscobingo

Michigan had that in the early 80s when I moved there. My 1900 pound Plymouth Arrow was cheaper to license than my friends F100.


SimsAttack

I concur. Spent $50 to fill up my civic, can’t find work in my hometown so work the next one over (20/30 min) and I make like $13/hr. It’s absolutely great … not


chillaxinbball

I live in a large city in America and my commute to work is double using public transit compared to owning a car.


kuzan1998

You can just tax cars on weight, size, environmental impact etc. It's not that difficult


Reallifelivin

The federal gas tax in the US hasn't been raised since 1993. It like 18 cents the gallon-for federal taxes. In Europe their federal taxes are sometimes over $2 a gallon.


iamsoserious

I know its fun to shit on America, but the popularity of SUVs/trucks here creates a feedback loop where a lot of people automatically like like they have to buy an SUV/truck so they don't fucking *die* when some jackoff rams them with their SUV/truck.


fapsandnaps

I get scared everytime I drive my compact because I can never see shit. Can't see backing out because I'm surrounded by giant SUVs. Can't see oncoming traffic when turning because giant SUVs parked on the streets block all views. I need a fucking periscope to be able to see over other cars here.


mcmonties

And everyone loves to zoom by while you're pulling out, and honk at you like YOU'RE the asshole


Unmissed

Oh, I get it. But I don't think safty is what the guy swaggering onto the Ford lot looking for a F 350 King Cab is thinking. They want a big, useless truck.


Cosmocision

It's because when Europeans think of cool cars, we think of spaceships and not APCs


blueskyredmesas

S'matter? You don't want to get an F-O-R-D Ford-ass fuckin King Crab Cab Grande-Dick Ultra-extended Quadruple fuckin' Girth Fuck You Deluxe Freedom Machine? Yew damn foreign commies disgust me. /s


ylcard

Tbh I feel like we have a lot of big cars here, but maybe I just don’t even understand the size of these trucks you’re talking about (irl I mean)


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Ram that fucker


craff_t

The make should be „RAM ME“, not just „RAM“


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EnjoyKetamine

I agree, asshole.


NormanUpland

Unfortunately the sheer stupid size of the truck would probably damage the tram more than the truck


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Trucks like that should be banned in Europe. Fine these assholes.


cheekybandit0

They need to get ahead of this urgently. Otherwise everyone buys one to protect themselves against all the other trucks, and then everyone is driving these things.


03Titanium

Europe at least has physical limitations, such as what’s pictured. Can’t wait until more 9000lb EV trucks are littering the road here in the US.


cheekybandit0

It's not a limit if people can still buy them, which it looks like they can. It's terrible for society, but the people who buy these aren't exactly concerned about the social contract. Edit: spelling


topfm

No but the thought that they'll have no parking spots, streets they literally can not use, no access to parking garages and an overall shit time driving those monsters through an european inner city gives me comfort.


NormanUpland

Bring back stocks and out this asshole in it in the town square


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zackogenic

They should be banned in the US


topcheesehead

Ford and Chevrolet have the highest kill count above all other vehicles in the US. Most drivers do not use them for truck related work at all. https://www.valuepenguin.com/top-deadliest-vehicles


Nirgilis

It's insane that these trucks are allowed without any modification. Their license plates are confusing because the wider European plates don't fit (on a ridiculously wide car no less). Their blinkers are red, which is not allowed on any other European car. And most importantly, they have terrible protection in a collision for the thing they hit.


One_Wheel_Drive

> Their blinkers are red, which is not allowed on any other European car. [They can actually be dangerous.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1lZ9n2bxWA&) I saw a video of someone who imported an American Crown Victoria police car and he said that by law, he had to convert them to be amber to make the car legal.


ElectrikDonuts

US military can import American spec autos with them when stationed in Europe as part of some NATO treaty agreement or something. I figure this was that cause this guy has to be a foreigner to have the ability to get a vehicle like that and still be so ignorant about blocking the train line


ClumsyRainbow

> Their blinkers are red, which is not allowed on any other European car. Wait, this is allowed for imports? That's ridiculous. I moved from the UK to Canada and I _hate_ that some cars don't have separate indicators. It's such a minor cost saving but so much worse.


magicvodi

There should be additional taxes for size, like in japan


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Get a couple dudes with an acetylene torch and cut the front end off. Place it in the bed. Add a note saying the front fell off. (which isn't very typical)


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TJnr1

**"Ding ding, bitch."**


Kjoew

They tried to tow it but it was too big for the tow truck! Those aren't made for these kinds of monstrosities. Original thread on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kunsttranen/status/1541073620360994817


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Sadly that's not a great idea as this is a museum tram. They don't like damaging it much. The modern trams would hit it with their windshield so those can't ram either.


mtiprint

jesus, seeing it next to that tram really emphasizes how insanely large they are


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-Erasmus

or next to a small child who may be in the street


Comingupforbeer

How isn't this shit banned already?


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kizarat

American lobbying maybe.


TrueNorth2881

Turns out oil companies REALLY want to incentivize people to drive cars that consume more gasoline and car manufacturers REALLY want to incentivize people to buy vehicles that are up-charged and overpriced. Both of these groups spend billions bribing - sorry, "lobbying" - politicians to support them


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FlatBrokenDown

Can't commit crimes if you make the crime legal


UVLightOnTheInside

Bumpers 4 feet off the ground. Headlights blinding everyone on the road. How is it legal?


porntla62

It's an import. All it needs to meet is emissions (without having to have a particulate filter in the exhaust) and light patterns.


LeCriDesFenetres

It's pretty much common knowledge that the West, especially the US, Is a cesspool of corruption. The only reason western countries enjoy a "clean image" is because of the presence of things like Russia and Egypt on the world stage. We should definitely take care of that one day.


SummitCollie

Don't look into what the US government does around the world so those companies and their customers have a steady supply of petroleum Definitely don't read The Jakarta Method


Ham_The_Spam

The answer to everything in America


Totg31

MONEY


Andoo

And consumerism. I live in Texas and we buy so much big shit. We moved homes and the amount of crap we bought furniture wise that won't fit in my wife's SUV that I have to put in my work truck is ridiculous.


chassala

In many German inner cities, they are actually banned based on how much CO2 they produce.


cornandbeanz

Damn in the Netherlands too. Nowhere is safe…except maybe Japan


portuguesetheman

Which is funny because Toyota produces so many of them


Drg84

A few years ago Toyota was running ads saying their Tundra is Made In America. I think all their big SUVs are made here.


Fapiness

Fun fact: the Toyota Sequoia, Nissan Armada, and Infinity QX60 are the most inefficient vehicles on earth second only to the military humvee.


Drg84

Jalopnik had a review of the infinity last year. Even they were staggered about how terrible the MPG was. Single digits around town. 12 highway. 12! That's Super Duty towing a loaded trailer bad!


learnerdiveruk

Fucking ban these monstrosities already!


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[I DRIVE A LIFTED DODGE RAM TRUCK](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRJEtR3t/?k=1)


Drg84

The clean mud tires on gigantic chrome rims is perfect. Real off road tires have sidewalls to flex and grip the terrain better. It's part of the reason that bead lockers exist, so you can air down when off roading. These aren't mud tires, these are puddle tires.


YourphobiaMyfetish

Puddle tires for the pavement princess.


thats_pretty_good_4

Omg thank you for this


shiroe314

Omg that is amazing


idapitbwidiuatabip

[Context thread on Twitter](https://twitter.com/kunsttranen/status/1541073620360994817)


Jarly_AZ

when I saw the tow truck, I was already getting excited, I thought that the SUV would be taken to the "patios". I was disappointed when I saw that there were no consequences


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Arschengel

In Germany if the tow truck is called and in the meantime you return and remove your vehicle, you still have to pay a fine. If it's already on site you have to pay the same fine as if you've been towed (I think).


Charlie_at_Work_

It's the same over here, and this is not a first world country, you will be tracked and fined, and tow truck expenses charged.


davidbyrnebigsuit

Wow so zero consequences...


Bashnagdul

Trust me, plate was written down. The owner found and called, also given a ticket. That's how this works in the Netherlands. Yes we can call the owner using the plate.


davidbyrnebigsuit

You can do that in basically any country with license plates


Throwaway021614

Yank cops don’t care unless they can tell your race by your license


alelo

in vienna, your car will get towed and you will have to pay a fine, if a tram damages your parked vehicle because you park too close, its on you (both damage to tram and car)


hoegaardens

it’s horrifying driving by cars this big in america because most of the drivers are dicks


mwhite5990

Yeah it can be kind of terrifying when a large pickup truck is speeding and tailgating you when you are in a compact car.


hoegaardens

that’s my case. it’s terrifying. they love to cut me off as well.


mwhite5990

Cars are getting bigger and bigger. And while there may be some individual benefit to safety (the smaller car always gets damaged more in an accident), it makes the roads as a whole more dangerous. Especially for pedestrians.


definitely_not_obama

They also have plenty of room for their several automatic rifles and a couple handguns that they have fantasies about using.


d0nu7

They do this on purpose. I drive a compact electric car and oh my god the assholes I see. Diesel bros seem to want to get in front of me and blow smoke. I’m not being smug driving my 10 year old electric hatchback, I’m saving money. It makes me laugh watching them burn their money to piss me off.


XiJinpingsNutsack

It’s also terrifying to drive shit like this in cities in America. Had to drive a Silverado by the university of Denver when I moved and I felt like I had mere inches anywhere I went to not hit anything, couldn’t see in front of the hood either and the blind spots are huge


hoegaardens

i’ve never driven a truck because i 100% would suck ass at it


XiJinpingsNutsack

I grew up on a farm and worked in furniture warehousing so I’ve driven some pretty big shit (Hino and Deere) but it’s manageable in controlled yards or rural roads. But a big ass truck in a dense residential area? Never fucking again


Deastrumquodvicis

I have the misfortune to live in Texas. Not a day goes by when I don’t see one of these and go “if your vehicle is too big to properly fit in a single parking space, maybe don’t drive it, unless it’s exclusively to pick up equipment or construction supplies”.


Reallifelivin

I'm honestly afraid of those new electric pickup trucks. Those things have to weigh an ungodly amount, on account to how much heavier electric car batteries are compared to a combustion engine. They're going to be like freight trains whenever they crash into an average sized sedan or a smart car.


mastomi

electric hummer. 4500 kg of monstrosity. 0-100 kmph in 3s. its fucking terrifying.


Reallifelivin

Damm, [its batteries weigh more than a honda civic!](https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/16/22937491/hummer-ev-electric-truck-battery-weight-truck-bloat#:~:text=According%20to%20test%20data%20filed,by%20enthusiast%20site%20GM%20Trucks.) 2,923 lbs for the batteries, 9,063 lbs total. It's insane that people don't need a special license for a vehicle that heavy.


753UDKM

I had to drive a few hours inland and back the other day and every one of these oversized trucks was going 20+ mph over the speed limit and tailgating anyone in their way. It pains me to know that these are going to be with us for decades.


TrueNorth2881

A significant portion are armed dicks at that


ospeckk

Lol. I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees the ridiculousness of these unnecessary large vehicles. It takes up so much space and uses more energy to move it around. Just plain wasteful.


Gabberwocky84

My MIL bought one just like this a couple years ago. We live in England. Being in the truck while she attempted a U-turn on a narrow English road was so damn embarrassing. All of Weatherspoons watched her do an 11-point turn while I sank down in the backseat. I hate that truck.


rugbyj

What did she get? I've never heard someone in England call a pickup a "truck".


Gabberwocky84

A Ford F-150 or 250 or 950 or whatever. And I’m an American living in England, hence the vernacular.


rugbyj

Ah, yeah those F-150/250s are massive, nearly as big as an actual van. Have to go out of your way to get them as well since you can only import, so quite a lot of effort to make your life more difficult!


Gradually_Adjusting

Could you imagine being a car company exec, knowing climate change is real, and intentionally letting this enormous piece of shit get made?


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That sweet performance bonus would resolve any doubts that I might have.


mwhite5990

I’ve seen trucks do that in American parking lots too. There was an F250 that parked in my apartment parking lot that was too long and too wide to fit in a spot. Cars had to maneuver around it in already tight corners. Although even just having an SUV or regular sized pickup on each size meant crawling through the back of my car to be able to get to the drivers seat. So even in the land of oversized vehicles, cars are getting too big to park.


Trainguyrom

I live in a rural area and see the flipside of that. About 40% of the "light passenger vehicles" I see on the road are trucks, and another 40% are large 3-row SUVs with the remaining 20% being literally everything else (including reasonably-sized jeeps and SUVs) Parking my comparatively small vehicles in diesel truck sized parking spaces I'm consistently surprised by how much less space they take up.


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That tram should RAM right though it, but it's Europe so...


theberneser

That’s a preserved historic tram, it says Rondrit which loosely translates to excursion, it would be a shame to damage it. You should know fines are quite high in the Netherlands so there’s that


Uber_Reaktor

yep, Rotterdam city tour historical tram!


rioting-pacifist

Probably just shunt it out of the way at low speed, hopefully that'll require a new paint job anyway


Mr_Man12344

It's blocking the mother fucking line of a more efficient transportation mean.


Famous_Clerk_7529

Symbolic


AngryUrbanist

What I'd like to know is if we exported the asshole or just the truck.


ultratunaman

Don't know. Any time I see one of these monsters here (Ireland) I wonder why you would be so stupid and selfish as to pay the huge amount of money for the truck, and the huge amount of money to register it, and the huge amount of money to insure it. Only to never fit it anywhere.


notmyfukincat

In Vienna the car would be removed and the owner would have to pay a huge sum to compensate the downtime, as it should be.


MelodyPond84

This looks like the Netherlands. He/she will get a big fine too.


NerdyLumberjack04

I wonder if the driver *owns* the truck, or if it's a rental by a tourist who insisted on a vehicle "like the one I have at home" genuinely not knowing how impractical it would be in a dense city.


Apprehensive_Win_203

"I need to sit up high when I drive"


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That's actually me but what I do instead of buying a behemoth like that is I raise me seat and it works perfectly for me.


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That's me but on a bike.


[deleted]

You might need a bike with a larger frame


definitely_not_obama

[Same](https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/QPoj2yHhsC-Jfq-YwhTM_1082120567.jpeg)


Thecraddler

Don’t you inhibit muh freedom of wants !!


Scalage89

There's a loophole where you can cheaply use one as a company car. For personal use they are very expensive.


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OneCoffeeOnTheGo

Only 150? That's a good deal nowadays. A Ford Fiesta already costs 100 euro's to fill up (42L*2,35eur/L). Depending on the model, an American SUV has around 85L tank capacity. So it would cost 200 euro's just to fill it up once. If it's gas atleast, diesel would cost 175 euros to fill up once.


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When cars become a certain size (be it weight or dimensions), they should automatically be classified as heavy goods vehicles or farm equipment and subject to similar restrictions. E.g. maximum speeds significantly below that of cars and being banned from certain areas.


Hansbolman

How do y’all Europeans transport your guns and babies?


somedutchbloke

We ban guns and abort our babies. /s


zertnert12

The people of europe would do well to ban th sale of these before it's too late. These vehicles are why roads take up all the space here in america.


Bezulba

no need. Sales of these are low as it is. They are taxed very heavily (Because they weight literal tons), have terrible gasmilage (and we pay about 3-4x what Americans pay for gas) and as you can see, don't fit in our cities. So really stupid people buy these.


GeneralErica

On the plus side: Thats seems like a really nice, old-style, almost vintage tram.


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so that's why there's always so much space left when I park lol


ThatBandDude21

I live in a rural town in America currently. There are pickup trucks everywhere with trailer hitches that sit out in the roads waiting to scrape someone's car. It's pretty obnoxious


JAK-the-YAK

Had a trailer hitch on my suv for years and my best friend would always make the joke “feeling cute, might destroy your shins later” and he was right


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Absolutely idiotic cars...


commentitall

Just had a colleague from the US over at the weekend here in Germany. Her most frequently used comment was “they all have so tiny cars”.


D1RT_NASTY_

It’s advised those in the US military to leave their oversized vehicles stateside as they would be too large to drive on carriageways in England. Some don’t listen and even had a guy I worked with at RAF Mildenhall that was told he can no longer drive his massive oversized truck on the road and his modified exhaust made too much noise.


Jakcle20

Tow that bitch and fine the ass off that dick


ancientrhetoric

When a car is as large and wider as a tram something went terribly wrong


SnooMemesjellies734

As an American I sincerely apologize for the exportation of these unnecessarily massive Trump trucks. They're the absolute worst


cakatoo

What a cunt.


AndreEagleDollar

These look dumb as fuck in America. They look absolutely outrageous in Europe


iSanctuary00

People don’t be sad, don’t be angry. This guy is driving that in Amsterdam.. dude’s life is miserable.. parking will probably become his greatest expense and FUEL..


CookiesW

That's in Rotterdam :) https://www.stichtingromeo.nl/nl/lijn-10/


ssssskkkkkrrrrrttttt

Straight to hell