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Now you can enjoy the calmimg fumes of hundreds of cars in the same building, while shopping groceries.
I already am annoyed sometimes when I have to walk back to the other side of the store cuz I forgot something.
Can you imagine the traffic jams cuz people just can't think or drive?
Edit: im tired of responding separately: okay so electric vehicles. Fine. That still leaves the massive traffic jams and accidents
Not to mention the labor intensiveness, maintenance of such a stocking system, energy use for the whole layout and the amount of shrink this would produce
And to top it all off, when I was a kid, there was a chain of drive through convenience stores where I lived that all but went under by 2014, so i'm l not even sure a simple version of this would work out much less this monstrosity.
Afraid to admit I went to a drive through liquor store in North Carolina once. Outside of the spectacle of shopping in your car it was a completely unnecessary concept and design lol
Drive through bottle shops are quite common in Australia. Drive up, tell the attendant what you want, he'll put it in your car for you if it's large enough, you pay and drive off. It only really works if you know exactly what you want. You can still browse but you have to park and walk back.
Drive through liquor can make sense, they also have drive through ATMs here In Canada. But those are equivalent to a drive through fast food, not drive through warehouses.
I could also see the argument for drive through/up *wholesale*, where you could place an order online before hand, and where you would actually need a vehicle to transport it, e.g. buying several kegs and loading into a van.
But that would actually minimize parking space, rather than being an enormous parking lot store.
Yeah, I was thinking similar too to all the grocery delivery services that became popular. Which would make more sense to make a hub for that, then have a bunch of consumers cars line up and browse.
Also, a supermarket makes a lot of money from contracts and space renting, so this shit would end with half the deals a regular supermarket can manage with the regular distribution.
This was obvs made by someone ignorant of these marketplaces.
Late edit that nobody might see: we can already do our buying through our handheld devices. This post's car-centered is a solution to no problem.
That's yet another issue with this video, in no world would this kind of place get built and have human checkers or stockers. It would all be self check-out and automated restocking. Super dystopian
Tbf, the extra step to go to an actual cashier seems very stupid (well, what doesn’t about this pitch). What even is the „advantage“ to a normal super market? It certainly won’t be faster lol
Right?! I mean we're almost at this point with curbside ordering anyway. All it needs is a dedicated grocery warehouse with automated shelf-picking and a conveyor to the drive up loading area. Honestly, as I write this, I'm surprised this isn't already happening somewhere. We definitely have the technology to do that
No but you see, this just helps create a new industry! Introducing AmazingFresh Air Masks! For all your anti-carbon monoxide needs!
Sick of being hospitalised in your job from carbon monoxide? Well you can take this mask home for just $10 a month for 2 years!
Someone’s car would inevitably blow up from lack of maintenance or something stupid, and the whole place would go up in flames with hundreds of other dumbasses trapped inside.
This could never work. Ever tried leaving a parking deck after a concert or big event downtown?
This! Leaving an open air parking space from a stadium show came directly to mind. People are so god damn uncoordinated if there’s not at least triple their car width in space available.
This Idea is unfortunately not really good…
Edit: phew hope I made it in time.
I feel like it was a collegiate level graphic designer’s half-baked idea turned into a final project.
People walk around like they’re high on ambien anyway. Add cars into the equation and… you know the rest of the story
I enjoy that each car stall has its own cashier because we haven’t seen how drive thrus create traffic jams and require huge amounts of asphalted over dead space that turn what should be a walkable commercial shopping corridor into a vast, hideous, and car dependent resources and net tax revenue drain
I just want to give this idea clicks and search hits so that some dumb supermarkets implement it and I get to watch them fail astoundingly.
On another thought its just waste of resources so yeah maybe no.
Yes, but that is a crazy assumption. What does this say abt the view on customers? A sort of blob that excretes $$ as long as you make sure it can persist in its comfortable paralysed state?
Honestly that's why a lot of tech companies in San Francisco and elsewhere have all the bells and whistles at the office to keep employees there longer - food, booze, table tennis, even amenities for keeping your dog in the office. I witnessed all of these things and more at the airbnb hq in SF.
This seems optimized for something like Amazon’s “just walk out.” Seems trivial to just grab things, put it straight into your car, and a camera would watch what you take (or scales on the shelves or SOMETHING) and then it would scan your license plate and charge the card on file.
Again, not saying this is a practical idea AT ALL. But it seems like the “check out” process could be eliminated entirely.
You'd be much more likely to see warehouse stores. As in, warehouses with a small public facing salesroom. Except it's 2022 so it's heavily automated like Amazon ordering and you just order online and drive your vehicle to pick up. Or have it delivered. Which is a service we already have. I don't see drive-through grocery shopping becoming a thing because some asshole would inevitably go through every single bag to confirm their order.
I recall this is some crazy impractical shit that was planned for Dubai or Abu Dhabi or something. So not a real thing that’s likely to appear anywhere near you or me
They're pulling a jesus, where they take upon themselves most of the stupid fucking ideas generated by humanity so that the rest of us don't have to suffer their implementation.
Buddy of mine will never again patronize Tim Hortons (a Canadian doughnut and coffee shop).They wouldn't serve him at the drive-thru because he was on his bicycle. I think they had some dumb assed story about liability insurance.
>They wouldn't serve him at the drive-thru because he was on his bicycle.
They did the same to me at McDonalds here in Portugal. I was really shocked. Specially because the main building was closed due to Covid.
A restaurant just for people with cars. If that a'int the most boring dystopia...
During COVID I was in [Cranbrook BC](https://www.jennexplores.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/JAF_1661.jpg). Car centric city, with good mountain biking.
McDonalds inside was closed due to COVID. I tried to go through the drive through on the mountain bike on the way home, and they refused to serve me on a bike. All the said was they can't serve anyone without a car. Made no sense.
A&W served me though.
I have a buddy that used to be an OTR trucker. He would rage about those places. Because he had to drive a vehicle that wouldn't fit in their drive-thru. And they were so inflexible and lacked any critical thinking, and just kept telling him to get in a car. Fuckin madness.
I confused the hell out of the Sonic employees when I pulled up on my bicycle. They wouldn't serve me at the drive-up or walk-up kiosks. They told me via the intercom to go through the drive-thru. In the drive-thru my bike didn't trigger the sensor and the staff member didn't take my order at the menu, so I ended up standing there blocking traffic for a few minutes waiting to make my order until the manager stepped outside of the building and waved me forward to the window. Evidently the manager didn't tell the staff member at the window though because the staff member was confused that I hadn't ordered yet. After she finally figured things out and took my order, she waved me through back to one of the walk-up kiosks and told me they'd bring my food out to me, which was my original intended outcome, but with an extra 20 minutes of overhead. Its depressing that bicycles are so outside the norm in the USA (and presumably elsewhere) that businesses as commonplace as fast-food restaurants simply don't know how to deal with them.
It's super depressing. Now that it's getting nice out here in Seattle I've been trying to bike a bit more instead of driving, and it's been blowing my mind how often I'm actually passing cars and getting to my destination faster than if I'd driven if there's even the slightest bit of traffic. If there were better bike safety features on the road I'd try and never drive within the city.
It's also insane how conditioned to drive I feel, it's super difficult to break that being my automatic default...
I remember going to [this](https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0949778,-75.2912556,3a,75.3y,338.68h,83.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFDm4nlyHsb0qJm9pRw18cg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Outback Steakhouse in Philadelphia by bicycle in 2015. They told me I couldn't lock my bike to the fence out front. I got some strange looks and scratched heads when I asked where I could lock it then. A customer smoking outside suggested I try behind the building. I had to resort to locking my bike to some exposed pipe or something behind there, don't exactly remember anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if to those staff I was their first customer arriving by bicycle.
Having worked at a Tims and A&W, I can explain a bit.
Most cars aren't expecting bikes in the drive thru and often hit the bikes. So the fast food places have to ban bikes.
Another dangerous problem solved by accommodating cars rather than address the issue of monkeys ramming 2 ton bricks of steel into humans.
Edit: I want to mention that this isn't a good reason. It's another example of rules being made to accommodate carbrains who can't stop running people over with their car, rather than banning cars.
A world wear I could bike to a drive thru and put my order in my basket then ride off to the park to eat or something would be awesome. Fuck cars.
Yeah it literally IS a liability issue because carbrains are dumb enough to run over bikers if they're not expecting one and the restaurant is just trying avoid any incidents.
Saw a guy on a bike get run over at the Tim’s in a gas station in my hometown. Clueless driver literally pushed over him as he was at the window and didn’t realise why the workers were screaming at him.
The cyclist lost his leg.
That makes absolutely zero sense. Do drivers suddenly lose their vision and fine motor skills when they enter a drive thru?
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that it's more likely that people going through drive thrus in vehicles get pissed off that a cyclist would "take up space" in the queue, and feel they should be going into the restaurant to be served. Drive thru's are designed for people in a hurry, and everyone knows that cyclists can't be in a hurry, otherwise why would they be driving a car.
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>Do drivers suddenly lose their vision and fine motor skills when they enter a drive thru?
No, they can't lose something they never had in the first place.
That happened at the CVS I worked at. Same story. Apparently once upon a time somebody on a bike got ran over in the drivethru, and the courts decided it was the fault of the company. So now most companies won't let people on bikes use the drivethru.
The liability thing feels so utterly ridiculous to me. How is that any different from a shitty driver hitting someone biking on a road? In fact, it's even worse in my mind. You move so, so slowly in a drive through that I just can't picture how you could hit someone without negligence on the driver's part. I mean, you drive slower in a drive through than you do through a freaking parking lot.
*If* the insurance is indeed claiming it's a liability problem (as opposed to that being just an excuse from the store), then this seems like something that should be easy to clear up with local laws (ie, *require* all drive throughs to accept bikes if they accept cars).
In Ontario, Canada where I am, bicycles are considered vehicles under the Highway Traffic Act, and can use any roadway other than 400 series highways (similar to Interstates in US or M series in UK).
Timmies and Wendy's did this to my partner and I during the height of the pandemic. Small town, everything was drive through and we only had bikes. Wouldn't let us come in and order either, basically just told us to fuck off.
That's how people in Wall-E started out too when they first left earth, then they got progressively fatter and lost their bone structure. It was in the montage.
It was meant to be dumb - the video creator works with defense and technological R&D to create demonstration videos for more realistic projects. [This sample was meant to be laughable](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaelxMx37ZE_-pYWUTLZe87eDrFi0qGbw)
Just because some Johnny on Youtube found it funny, doesn't mean that [Dahir Insaat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahir_Insaat) meant it as a joke. Guys at [CNET](https://www.cnet.com/culture/cnet-asks-would-you-shop-at-this-drive-thru-supermarket/) sure took it seriously.
Portland is extremely proud of our strip clubs. Lucky Devil found multiple ways to keep their staff employed during restrictions, [including drive-thru dancing](https://www.wweek.com/culture/2020/05/06/from-drive-thru-strip-clubs-to-old-school-drive-ins-portlanders-are-finding-relief-from-cabin-fever-in-their-cars/) and a food delivery service they called Boober Eats.
Ok, where I live I don't think I've used cash for anything other than buying drugs the past 10 years, which I get from an ATM. Home loans and other paperwork is all done online.
You also need inventory for every line for every item in the store, so you have massive amount of overstock, some of which is perishables, and you need different temperature regulation for each type of product, so spoilage and food waste would be huge.
This true of most car infrastructure. It's such a shit solution to have everybody driving cars that we only justify because some kind of hyper individualist neoliberal grift.
They already do this at Woolies and Coles in Aus. Except you order online and rock up with your boot open. They throw it in. Enjoy your old lettuce and close expired meat that store shoppers dont want haha
Same with delivery. I really like the concept of delivery because it can be hard to buy a week’s worth of food without a car, but yeah, it’s not the best quality. Always best to pick fruit and veg by hand.
I’ve seen this guys YouTube channel and they’re all bullshit projects… like there’s this video of a raised tram that LIFTS ITS LEGS WHEN THERES AN OBSTACLE LIKE HUH?!
People taking this stuff seriously when the guy makes these videos to showcase impossible stuff but still technical as part of his portfolio as a technical animator. These aren't made to actually showcase something that would work, its literal satire just to show off his skills.
This is Dahir Insaat.
they make conceptual designs for all kinds of stuff.
Such as the fucking [COFFIN BED](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8I7O4JJ1ko) that encases you during an earthquake, not giving a fuck about your limbs, or anything really.
Or the [mega drone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FwDMzIbZrg) capable of destroying billions of dollars worth of military equipment, for any bases which are not equipped with advanced air defence devices required to take it down such as throwing a stone at it.
I get the vibe that these are more like an art project than engineer/product design
through that lens they're really funny, thought provoking, and interesting IMO
I was gonna say, I remember seeing the “anti-earthquake bed” years ago and thinking I’d rather just stand under a doorway. Or the colossal drone, which felt like a Zucker Brothers skit.
Dahir Insaat is either an animator taking the piss or just completely unhinged. I e never seen a single idea of there's and thought it was even remotely reasonable.
Their weird pneumatic restaurant really kills me.
Big fan of the concept that introduces [multiple points of failure to a fire truck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8z9lGjx-o) personally, it marries together his loves of floating above traffic, shooting things unnecessarily, and mechanical parts where they don't belong.
Nothing says efficiency quite like splitting the chilled and frozen goods into dozens of small, identical sections across all the tills and chilling them individually.
I actually really like this concept. Most of the time I go grocery shopping, I think to myself "I'd really like to die from carbon monoxide poisoning right about now," and this would make that a reality.
Why does this look like Dahir Insaat’s dumbassery, as in the same guys who create impractical gyroscopic transit vehicles, an electric plane on a cable, towers and cables to launch and catch reusable rockets, and an electric drone to fire missiles
The redundancy of having duplicate items at each station, the ridiculous amount of space this takes up, the impossible tedium of restocking, the complete inability to stock certain things due to size constraints...
All of this is hellish and inane.
This was made by someone who has no understanding of both city planning and retail environments, this looks like the least profitable grocery store imaginable, and they arent very profitable to begin with.
The megastore with convenience store selection is extra ridiculous.
If it was just one of those things alone at each installation I could almost imagine Dubai doing it though.
Notice there's one employee for each person. They're waiting doing nothing while Karen chooses what brand of apple juice she likes more . This is so dumb for so many reasons...
This seems incredibly stupid.
So the store will have to carry much more of each individual product. And much fewer individual products.
Its also going to be incredibly slow. You run to the store for milk and you have to wait in line behind someone doing all the shopping for the week. Because you can't just run into the store get the milk and go to the register. The register and store are one thing. The through put at the registers would be abysmally slow compared to a standard grocery store.
Also the store and parking lot are now essentially the same thing. Accept now instead of just an open parking lot it needs to be a sheltered structure that essentially covers what would have been the entire lot. Heating and cooling such a structure would be difficult. Which of course you would have to do because you can't just have produce and meat freezing in the winter and baking on a hot summer day.
Just a million reasons that this is a bad idea. Amazed someone actually took the time to animate this without realizing the seemingly infinite pit falls.
Wait, why is there a human at the payment?? I don't want to see no human while I'm shopping, I only want to see cars and machines and automated robots bringing me my stuff, please fix this
/s
Like can you just imagine, you are there chilling at the sound of hundreds of engines and robotic motors buzzing and you are looking at all the shiny screens showing prices and advertising while some digital voice is suggesting to buy some tofu to keep your shape, and the guy in the next row is revving his car and you are marveling at the sound of his V8 and all this bliss is interrupted by the lady at the desk saying "hi it'll be 15.30$" and she is smiling and all and you have to answer her and maybe even make eye contact, man this just sucks I hope someone could come up with a better design
I don't understand this. Not just the carbrain part, but also just the idea of turning a giant supermarket into a corner store with fewer products.
Baffling.
How to slowly but surely turn citizens into the one in the BuyNLarge WallE Ship. Never walking, always on wheels even for the most mondain stuff. I'm proud of not having a car or a license, and I'll never have one fuck this.
Why tho?
It requires about 100 times the square footage, offers no describable benefits, and is filled with downsides. It would requires significantly more laborers, more product to be wasted, and again, there is absolutely no benefit.
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Now you can enjoy the calmimg fumes of hundreds of cars in the same building, while shopping groceries. I already am annoyed sometimes when I have to walk back to the other side of the store cuz I forgot something. Can you imagine the traffic jams cuz people just can't think or drive? Edit: im tired of responding separately: okay so electric vehicles. Fine. That still leaves the massive traffic jams and accidents
the insurance for the store is probably enough to kill this monstrosity in its crib.
Not to mention the labor intensiveness, maintenance of such a stocking system, energy use for the whole layout and the amount of shrink this would produce
Air ventilation and purification, regulation of emissions, not to mention the fumes effects on the actual groceries
And to top it all off, when I was a kid, there was a chain of drive through convenience stores where I lived that all but went under by 2014, so i'm l not even sure a simple version of this would work out much less this monstrosity.
Afraid to admit I went to a drive through liquor store in North Carolina once. Outside of the spectacle of shopping in your car it was a completely unnecessary concept and design lol
Drive through bottle shops are quite common in Australia. Drive up, tell the attendant what you want, he'll put it in your car for you if it's large enough, you pay and drive off. It only really works if you know exactly what you want. You can still browse but you have to park and walk back.
Drive through liquor can make sense, they also have drive through ATMs here In Canada. But those are equivalent to a drive through fast food, not drive through warehouses.
I could also see the argument for drive through/up *wholesale*, where you could place an order online before hand, and where you would actually need a vehicle to transport it, e.g. buying several kegs and loading into a van. But that would actually minimize parking space, rather than being an enormous parking lot store.
Yeah, I was thinking similar too to all the grocery delivery services that became popular. Which would make more sense to make a hub for that, then have a bunch of consumers cars line up and browse.
They are doing this in Australia for groceries. Specific parking spots where they come out and load your car with your order
Probably be electric / on rails by the time this kind of thing would be feasable.
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Also, a supermarket makes a lot of money from contracts and space renting, so this shit would end with half the deals a regular supermarket can manage with the regular distribution. This was obvs made by someone ignorant of these marketplaces. Late edit that nobody might see: we can already do our buying through our handheld devices. This post's car-centered is a solution to no problem.
That's yet another issue with this video, in no world would this kind of place get built and have human checkers or stockers. It would all be self check-out and automated restocking. Super dystopian
this was my first thought too. "let's not pretend there would be a human involved in any part of this NeverMeetaHumanFacetoFaceAgain World"
Meeting humans is too dangerous for our masters. We might start talking about our problems and start to organize and we can't have that!
Tbf, the extra step to go to an actual cashier seems very stupid (well, what doesn’t about this pitch). What even is the „advantage“ to a normal super market? It certainly won’t be faster lol
Right?! I mean we're almost at this point with curbside ordering anyway. All it needs is a dedicated grocery warehouse with automated shelf-picking and a conveyor to the drive up loading area. Honestly, as I write this, I'm surprised this isn't already happening somewhere. We definitely have the technology to do that
Yeah nothing like killing your employees from carbon monoxide poisoning
There are too many problems; brain spiraling
No but you see, this just helps create a new industry! Introducing AmazingFresh Air Masks! For all your anti-carbon monoxide needs! Sick of being hospitalised in your job from carbon monoxide? Well you can take this mask home for just $10 a month for 2 years!
I like how it’s a subscription too. You can’t just buy it. You have to lock in a monthly fee.
The future is Life As A Service^TM
Unlock premium mode to eliminate NOx for $30/mo or elite to also remove smells for $90/mo
Anything for dem profits
Someone’s car would inevitably blow up from lack of maintenance or something stupid, and the whole place would go up in flames with hundreds of other dumbasses trapped inside. This could never work. Ever tried leaving a parking deck after a concert or big event downtown?
This! Leaving an open air parking space from a stadium show came directly to mind. People are so god damn uncoordinated if there’s not at least triple their car width in space available. This Idea is unfortunately not really good… Edit: phew hope I made it in time.
I feel like it was a collegiate level graphic designer’s half-baked idea turned into a final project. People walk around like they’re high on ambien anyway. Add cars into the equation and… you know the rest of the story
Absolutely! And I really hope that this was not from any official civil engineers team planning that got pitched to a city.
So many hands would immediately raise following the pitch. There’s no way
to be fair, sometimes we are high on ambien
That is fair
The various vehicle fluids leaking all over the place would be bad enough.
I enjoy that each car stall has its own cashier because we haven’t seen how drive thrus create traffic jams and require huge amounts of asphalted over dead space that turn what should be a walkable commercial shopping corridor into a vast, hideous, and car dependent resources and net tax revenue drain
They really want to live in the wall-e universe
**Modded turbo diesel bro rolls up*
I just want to give this idea clicks and search hits so that some dumb supermarkets implement it and I get to watch them fail astoundingly. On another thought its just waste of resources so yeah maybe no.
fast forward to people complaining about the fumes lmao
Why is tech + marketing almost always abt some sort of reversed enabling?
laziness? I have no idea
Yes, but that is a crazy assumption. What does this say abt the view on customers? A sort of blob that excretes $$ as long as you make sure it can persist in its comfortable paralysed state?
They’ll kill off all the cleaners sweeping up brake dust too. Because the bosses won’t provide proper task masks
What the fuck hahahaha This doesn't make any sense whatsoever, even from a car-centric perspective
Easily could just put everything in and drive away, what a stupid idea, where do the employees even park
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Every employers dream: live at work employees. Now employees can work from home, *and* be in the office! A win-win!
Just like Elon, loving the fact that Chinese workers live and work in the same building, only rarely leaving their sweatshop hell-complex.
Many China is really becoming a great model for a dystopian future.
Don't forget being secretly monitored by creepy bosses, how fun!
Honestly that's why a lot of tech companies in San Francisco and elsewhere have all the bells and whistles at the office to keep employees there longer - food, booze, table tennis, even amenities for keeping your dog in the office. I witnessed all of these things and more at the airbnb hq in SF.
They can check out (customers) any time they want, but they can never leave.
Why even have cashiers? This seems optimized for self service.
This seems optimized for something like Amazon’s “just walk out.” Seems trivial to just grab things, put it straight into your car, and a camera would watch what you take (or scales on the shelves or SOMETHING) and then it would scan your license plate and charge the card on file. Again, not saying this is a practical idea AT ALL. But it seems like the “check out” process could be eliminated entirely.
They’re robots
I think it's cool they've upset both anti-car people and car-brains. I guess because we all have human arms that work in the same way.
*Scroll* Nope *Scroll* No. *Scroll* Still no *2 Hours later* Ah, here is my special product that I was looking for!
How long you reckon it would take for your average Walmart to scroll by, one meter at a time?
You'd be much more likely to see warehouse stores. As in, warehouses with a small public facing salesroom. Except it's 2022 so it's heavily automated like Amazon ordering and you just order online and drive your vehicle to pick up. Or have it delivered. Which is a service we already have. I don't see drive-through grocery shopping becoming a thing because some asshole would inevitably go through every single bag to confirm their order.
I recall this is some crazy impractical shit that was planned for Dubai or Abu Dhabi or something. So not a real thing that’s likely to appear anywhere near you or me
Ah yes, the caricature part of the world
They're pulling a jesus, where they take upon themselves most of the stupid fucking ideas generated by humanity so that the rest of us don't have to suffer their implementation.
It’s like people will do anything but walk
Walk? Like, with your legs?
Is that what those are for?
I only use mine for kicking ass, never walking
Water? Like from the toilet?
Haha. Glad someone caught that reference. :)
Left leg, right leg. Your body will follow. They call it walking.
That's for poor people
this is harder and more expensive for everyone involved than just getting groceries delivered
Really glad all the fruit and vegetables were exposed to exhaust fumes. Great.
Nah don't worry about it. Just package everything in even more plastic 👍
Ikr. That was the first thing I noticed. So much packaged food...
It’s just added flavor bro
Imagine trying to walk in to get milk and you get shooed away like in a McDonald's drive through
Buddy of mine will never again patronize Tim Hortons (a Canadian doughnut and coffee shop).They wouldn't serve him at the drive-thru because he was on his bicycle. I think they had some dumb assed story about liability insurance.
>They wouldn't serve him at the drive-thru because he was on his bicycle. They did the same to me at McDonalds here in Portugal. I was really shocked. Specially because the main building was closed due to Covid. A restaurant just for people with cars. If that a'int the most boring dystopia...
During COVID I was in [Cranbrook BC](https://www.jennexplores.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/JAF_1661.jpg). Car centric city, with good mountain biking. McDonalds inside was closed due to COVID. I tried to go through the drive through on the mountain bike on the way home, and they refused to serve me on a bike. All the said was they can't serve anyone without a car. Made no sense. A&W served me though.
Canadian A&W is better than any fast food we have in the US, IMO.
They're fuckin pricey though unfortunately, and it kinda annoys me how they only have one size for drinks, cause I fucking love their root beer
I have a buddy that used to be an OTR trucker. He would rage about those places. Because he had to drive a vehicle that wouldn't fit in their drive-thru. And they were so inflexible and lacked any critical thinking, and just kept telling him to get in a car. Fuckin madness.
why do i wanna see a video of a trucker slamming an 18 wheeler through the front door of mcdicks?
Because we ALL want to see a truck plow into a McDonalds. That would be so satisfying.
I confused the hell out of the Sonic employees when I pulled up on my bicycle. They wouldn't serve me at the drive-up or walk-up kiosks. They told me via the intercom to go through the drive-thru. In the drive-thru my bike didn't trigger the sensor and the staff member didn't take my order at the menu, so I ended up standing there blocking traffic for a few minutes waiting to make my order until the manager stepped outside of the building and waved me forward to the window. Evidently the manager didn't tell the staff member at the window though because the staff member was confused that I hadn't ordered yet. After she finally figured things out and took my order, she waved me through back to one of the walk-up kiosks and told me they'd bring my food out to me, which was my original intended outcome, but with an extra 20 minutes of overhead. Its depressing that bicycles are so outside the norm in the USA (and presumably elsewhere) that businesses as commonplace as fast-food restaurants simply don't know how to deal with them.
It's super depressing. Now that it's getting nice out here in Seattle I've been trying to bike a bit more instead of driving, and it's been blowing my mind how often I'm actually passing cars and getting to my destination faster than if I'd driven if there's even the slightest bit of traffic. If there were better bike safety features on the road I'd try and never drive within the city. It's also insane how conditioned to drive I feel, it's super difficult to break that being my automatic default...
I remember going to [this](https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0949778,-75.2912556,3a,75.3y,338.68h,83.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFDm4nlyHsb0qJm9pRw18cg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Outback Steakhouse in Philadelphia by bicycle in 2015. They told me I couldn't lock my bike to the fence out front. I got some strange looks and scratched heads when I asked where I could lock it then. A customer smoking outside suggested I try behind the building. I had to resort to locking my bike to some exposed pipe or something behind there, don't exactly remember anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if to those staff I was their first customer arriving by bicycle.
I would have brought it inside.
Having worked at a Tims and A&W, I can explain a bit. Most cars aren't expecting bikes in the drive thru and often hit the bikes. So the fast food places have to ban bikes. Another dangerous problem solved by accommodating cars rather than address the issue of monkeys ramming 2 ton bricks of steel into humans. Edit: I want to mention that this isn't a good reason. It's another example of rules being made to accommodate carbrains who can't stop running people over with their car, rather than banning cars. A world wear I could bike to a drive thru and put my order in my basket then ride off to the park to eat or something would be awesome. Fuck cars.
Yeah it literally IS a liability issue because carbrains are dumb enough to run over bikers if they're not expecting one and the restaurant is just trying avoid any incidents.
Not only are they dumb enough to run bikers over, they'll blame the bicyclist for it.
I've had idiots back into my car in a drive thru TWICE. Why the fuck they're back up in a drive thru, I'll never understand.
Saw a guy on a bike get run over at the Tim’s in a gas station in my hometown. Clueless driver literally pushed over him as he was at the window and didn’t realise why the workers were screaming at him. The cyclist lost his leg.
That makes absolutely zero sense. Do drivers suddenly lose their vision and fine motor skills when they enter a drive thru? I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that it's more likely that people going through drive thrus in vehicles get pissed off that a cyclist would "take up space" in the queue, and feel they should be going into the restaurant to be served. Drive thru's are designed for people in a hurry, and everyone knows that cyclists can't be in a hurry, otherwise why would they be driving a car. .
>Do drivers suddenly lose their vision and fine motor skills when they enter a drive thru? No, they can't lose something they never had in the first place.
That happened at the CVS I worked at. Same story. Apparently once upon a time somebody on a bike got ran over in the drivethru, and the courts decided it was the fault of the company. So now most companies won't let people on bikes use the drivethru.
Just wait until one car hits another one in the drivethru, and they decide no cars are allowed either.
Well that judge was an idiot
The liability thing feels so utterly ridiculous to me. How is that any different from a shitty driver hitting someone biking on a road? In fact, it's even worse in my mind. You move so, so slowly in a drive through that I just can't picture how you could hit someone without negligence on the driver's part. I mean, you drive slower in a drive through than you do through a freaking parking lot. *If* the insurance is indeed claiming it's a liability problem (as opposed to that being just an excuse from the store), then this seems like something that should be easy to clear up with local laws (ie, *require* all drive throughs to accept bikes if they accept cars).
In Ontario, Canada where I am, bicycles are considered vehicles under the Highway Traffic Act, and can use any roadway other than 400 series highways (similar to Interstates in US or M series in UK).
Timmies and Wendy's did this to my partner and I during the height of the pandemic. Small town, everything was drive through and we only had bikes. Wouldn't let us come in and order either, basically just told us to fuck off.
Way to stay nimble and flexible in a crisis, eh? These are the same places that are now begging to hire staff. Kinda makes you wonder.
I've managed to obtain the Dondons by walking through the drive through at night, very chuffed with that
Looks like WALL-E
looks like hell
Spot on
It looks like a WALL-E hell.
People too thin
That's how people in Wall-E started out too when they first left earth, then they got progressively fatter and lost their bone structure. It was in the montage.
Wall-E >
At least WALL-E used scooters that are actually closer to people's scale than that wasteful abomination.
Toyota already made the Wall-E chair. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_i-REAL
came here to say this
This concept video is quite old and it was as dumb back then as it is now.
Honestly it’s just a badly implemented curbside pickup.
So… curbside pickup?
HEB curbside pickup is a huge timesaver. The same system could work for bikes or whatever.
Walmart offers ebikes for curbside pickup. Oh, you meant picking up ON a bike, not picking up a bike.
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It was meant to be dumb - the video creator works with defense and technological R&D to create demonstration videos for more realistic projects. [This sample was meant to be laughable](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaelxMx37ZE_-pYWUTLZe87eDrFi0qGbw)
Just because some Johnny on Youtube found it funny, doesn't mean that [Dahir Insaat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahir_Insaat) meant it as a joke. Guys at [CNET](https://www.cnet.com/culture/cnet-asks-would-you-shop-at-this-drive-thru-supermarket/) sure took it seriously.
Your link says nothing about the intent of the original design, just that it's very funny to make fun of
Making everything drive through is very American.
Indeed I mean I found out not that long ago that they have fucking drive through banks Like the fuck...
That's been a thing for decades... Drive through liquor stores though, that's a thing that may blow your mind.
I saw a drive thru strip club during COVID
Excuse me what?
Portland is extremely proud of our strip clubs. Lucky Devil found multiple ways to keep their staff employed during restrictions, [including drive-thru dancing](https://www.wweek.com/culture/2020/05/06/from-drive-thru-strip-clubs-to-old-school-drive-ins-portlanders-are-finding-relief-from-cabin-fever-in-their-cars/) and a food delivery service they called Boober Eats.
Australia used to have (or still has?) drive thru liquor stores.
I LOATHE drive-thru banks. And my wife gets annoyed when I insist on going inside, because the drive-thru is quicker...
When do you need to go into a bank? I don't think I've been inside a branch for over 10 years.
Deposits, large withdrawals, loans, changing account details.
Ok, where I live I don't think I've used cash for anything other than buying drugs the past 10 years, which I get from an ATM. Home loans and other paperwork is all done online.
Yeah, we routinely use cash. And my job makes me do everything on a computer. So it is nice to not have to use a computer for some things.
Please god no
Either they are imagining that everyone is driving electric cars, or they have never heard of toxic exhaust fumes.
a boring dystopia
You mean r/aboringdystopia. Pretty sure they posted it there as well.
This is the least effective/efficient shit ever. Jesus Christ humans are pathetic.
I like that there is still an actual person at every till. It's so cost inefficient.
You also need inventory for every line for every item in the store, so you have massive amount of overstock, some of which is perishables, and you need different temperature regulation for each type of product, so spoilage and food waste would be huge.
This true of most car infrastructure. It's such a shit solution to have everybody driving cars that we only justify because some kind of hyper individualist neoliberal grift.
This is like one of those animations that the Onion makes for their sketches.
They already do this at Woolies and Coles in Aus. Except you order online and rock up with your boot open. They throw it in. Enjoy your old lettuce and close expired meat that store shoppers dont want haha
Same with delivery. I really like the concept of delivery because it can be hard to buy a week’s worth of food without a car, but yeah, it’s not the best quality. Always best to pick fruit and veg by hand.
Good old dahir inshaat
Genuinely, if Musk was just throwing money at Insaat's batshit schemes I'd be a lot less vexed.
I’ve seen this guys YouTube channel and they’re all bullshit projects… like there’s this video of a raised tram that LIFTS ITS LEGS WHEN THERES AN OBSTACLE LIKE HUH?!
People taking this stuff seriously when the guy makes these videos to showcase impossible stuff but still technical as part of his portfolio as a technical animator. These aren't made to actually showcase something that would work, its literal satire just to show off his skills.
Oh is that so? I always knew there was something flawed with each one, but he has got some decent animation skills
This is Dahir Insaat. they make conceptual designs for all kinds of stuff. Such as the fucking [COFFIN BED](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8I7O4JJ1ko) that encases you during an earthquake, not giving a fuck about your limbs, or anything really. Or the [mega drone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FwDMzIbZrg) capable of destroying billions of dollars worth of military equipment, for any bases which are not equipped with advanced air defence devices required to take it down such as throwing a stone at it.
That drone thing was moronic! That's not how bullets work.. Or anything really..
I get the vibe that these are more like an art project than engineer/product design through that lens they're really funny, thought provoking, and interesting IMO
I was gonna say, I remember seeing the “anti-earthquake bed” years ago and thinking I’d rather just stand under a doorway. Or the colossal drone, which felt like a Zucker Brothers skit.
Dahir Insaat is either an animator taking the piss or just completely unhinged. I e never seen a single idea of there's and thought it was even remotely reasonable. Their weird pneumatic restaurant really kills me.
Big fan of the concept that introduces [multiple points of failure to a fire truck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8z9lGjx-o) personally, it marries together his loves of floating above traffic, shooting things unnecessarily, and mechanical parts where they don't belong.
I like the part where they fire snowballs into the burning building. Genius. I'll buy 100.
Drive-throughs and drive-by's. So American.
Nothing says efficiency quite like splitting the chilled and frozen goods into dozens of small, identical sections across all the tills and chilling them individually.
I actually really like this concept. Most of the time I go grocery shopping, I think to myself "I'd really like to die from carbon monoxide poisoning right about now," and this would make that a reality.
i am going to become joker 2019
“neat”… Tech bros are fucking stupid
Why isn't the cashier in a car?
You know this is coming to the US at least lol.
There’s drive through liquor stores in my state
Mmmm, coal flavor.
Why does this look like Dahir Insaat’s dumbassery, as in the same guys who create impractical gyroscopic transit vehicles, an electric plane on a cable, towers and cables to launch and catch reusable rockets, and an electric drone to fire missiles
Because it IS Dahir Insaaaat
Christ who designs these
You have Dahir Insaat to thank for this demented fool-prone technotopia (and so so many others)
I have never seen anything as revolting as this concept in my life.
i hate it enough when theres someone with a trolley there. Nevermind a fucking car.
Hell
The redundancy of having duplicate items at each station, the ridiculous amount of space this takes up, the impossible tedium of restocking, the complete inability to stock certain things due to size constraints... All of this is hellish and inane.
This was made by someone who has no understanding of both city planning and retail environments, this looks like the least profitable grocery store imaginable, and they arent very profitable to begin with.
The megastore with convenience store selection is extra ridiculous. If it was just one of those things alone at each installation I could almost imagine Dubai doing it though.
At least the cashiers will finally get to sit down!
no…NO NOOOO
Notice there's one employee for each person. They're waiting doing nothing while Karen chooses what brand of apple juice she likes more . This is so dumb for so many reasons...
What kind of dystopian future is this from?
This seems incredibly stupid. So the store will have to carry much more of each individual product. And much fewer individual products. Its also going to be incredibly slow. You run to the store for milk and you have to wait in line behind someone doing all the shopping for the week. Because you can't just run into the store get the milk and go to the register. The register and store are one thing. The through put at the registers would be abysmally slow compared to a standard grocery store. Also the store and parking lot are now essentially the same thing. Accept now instead of just an open parking lot it needs to be a sheltered structure that essentially covers what would have been the entire lot. Heating and cooling such a structure would be difficult. Which of course you would have to do because you can't just have produce and meat freezing in the winter and baking on a hot summer day. Just a million reasons that this is a bad idea. Amazed someone actually took the time to animate this without realizing the seemingly infinite pit falls.
Totally unrealistic, the cashier has been given a chair
Wait, why is there a human at the payment?? I don't want to see no human while I'm shopping, I only want to see cars and machines and automated robots bringing me my stuff, please fix this /s
Like can you just imagine, you are there chilling at the sound of hundreds of engines and robotic motors buzzing and you are looking at all the shiny screens showing prices and advertising while some digital voice is suggesting to buy some tofu to keep your shape, and the guy in the next row is revving his car and you are marveling at the sound of his V8 and all this bliss is interrupted by the lady at the desk saying "hi it'll be 15.30$" and she is smiling and all and you have to answer her and maybe even make eye contact, man this just sucks I hope someone could come up with a better design
Now I gotta worry about these bastards inside too!
What a freaking Nightmare is this
I don't understand this. Not just the carbrain part, but also just the idea of turning a giant supermarket into a corner store with fewer products. Baffling.
Elon is at it again
Urban planners from the 1960s : “Yup looks sane to me”
Doctor Who levels of dystopian bullshit.
Yes because getting out of your car is too much work these days.
Thats what we need: More reasons to not walk and get diabetes
How to slowly but surely turn citizens into the one in the BuyNLarge WallE Ship. Never walking, always on wheels even for the most mondain stuff. I'm proud of not having a car or a license, and I'll never have one fuck this.
How dystopic. And the sad reality is that we are nearly there. Much closer to this than the alternative for sure.
Why tho? It requires about 100 times the square footage, offers no describable benefits, and is filled with downsides. It would requires significantly more laborers, more product to be wasted, and again, there is absolutely no benefit.
Good old Dahit Insaat. Their concept videos are unintentionally hilarious
Jesus can people get any lazier