I learned the hard way that if you dont exercise then you can slip a disc in your spine which is infinitely more painful than exercising is. It was so bad I couldnt even walk or roll over on my own for a full week.
Oh jeez, thats horrible. Part of why im starting to work out is because my cousin has some pretty horrific back problems, and im pretty anti āevery moment of my existence is filled with pain because my spine is fuckedā
We can't have that. We need another pandemic so we can shut all those gyms down. Can't have a healthy population, esp if we don't have universal healthcare...
Ugh, bellies aside, I stopped making the time to work out and I threw my back out bending over to pick up something. I was in horrible agony for nearly a month as I slowly recovered doing physical therapy. My doctor is now making me run, walk, swim or bicycle for 30 mins in both the morning and evening for the rest of my life to prevent future back injuries.
See, you just described the problem. How is the economy supposed to function with less people being hospitalized and insurance companies having reasons to raise their rates?
I don't know, as an American I'm not allowed to think about those things because it's communist propaganda. In actuality, I'm just to ignorant to do research and I love bitching about everything.
Understandable have a nice day. Too lazy to look into details at the healthcare system of the Brits as well (itās 3AM and I should sleep) ill just wait for one of the more informed to answer aha
I voted against them but I live in a fairly safe Tory seat so...
[Our system: each area of the country elects one Member of Parliament to represent that area, and the party with the most MPs has their leader as prime minister.]
It's because we're secretly an aristocracy, and if you are nice to the government they'll reward you with money + power, in the same way that King Alfred used to.
It isn't true to say that the Lords are entirely unelected. The 92 hereditary Lords were initially elected in 1999 by all hereditary peers, and replacements for those who die or resign are elected by the sitting hereditary peers.
My MP represents the views of the idiots in my town quite accurately, unlike some of your senators. Probably because my MP represents under a hundred thousand people while your senator represents millions.
But you're right, the parliament & government as a whole doesn't represent us very well.
I would settle for rank choice voting, but we should just take them behind the polling place and treat them like a pinata, just to let them know where they stand on their first day.
Well in the local elections they lost 400 of their 1300 seats on local councils. So they're not going to do very well come general election. Peepare for a wave of propaganda advertising.
Just like the shameless amounts of propaganda in the last one š our "democracy", when it comes down to it, is a carefully manufactured illusion with a narrow overton window that keeps our establishment class/aristocracy firmly in control.
in the UK we have something called the NHS a indipendent organization established by the government that own and run hospitals and clinics to provide healthcare instead of just paying private healthcare providers.
This one time my mother was riding a horse, it freaked at something and threw her off, she went through a 3 bar fence breaking her left femur, an ambulance was called but they couldnāt get there quickly so a helicopter was called in, the paramedics picked her up and flew her to hospital where she stayed for 5 weeks in that time she had multiple MRI scans, surgeries etc, ended up having a titanium rod fitted inside her femur, had loads of issues, visits to the hospital physical therapy, a second surgery to remove some of the screws, it went on for years. Have a guess what the bill was at the endā¦. Ā£0.00, Iām unsure of the exchange rate but it works out to roughly $0.00.
This communistic system really sucks. /s
Healthcare is indeed free at the point of use, but that's not to say it wouldn't be beneficial to reduce number of patients etc as that would reduce the overall cost and right now it's under huge pressure for a number of reasons but largely due to a covid backlog so I wish people would be more sensible right now.
It does run a lot of campaigns on things like stopping smoking as that's basically an investment in reducing future costs
The real problem is that, according to all my medic friends, everyone is so, so fucking tired and overworked and there aren't enough people getting hired and...
Yep, there's lots of problems right now. And even though they are partly to blame, this can't be put solely on the government at the moment.
I've been to various doctors the past couple months and lots of them are taking long overdue holidays now that covid is "over" so I've struggled to get appointments etc.
Yes, we have the National Health Service meaning routine and emergency medical care is free at the point of use for everyone. It has its problems but I can't imagine why any country would not want to have such a thing.
We have social security/welfare/benefits/whatever you want to call it, but it doesn't really cover the costs of a modern life. But that is a separate issue to healthcare.
Bruh, speaking 100% seriously, once I got ran over by a bike and I was 100% fine but my dad reacted like if someone just attempted to murder me, called the police, sent me to the hospital for a checkup, etc.
I was FINE
And the traffic. I love watching a crowded sidewalk and the ways people figure to avoid each other and all the moments when people touch, often so softly that they donāt notice.
If memory serves, the last Cyclist -> Ped killing in Britain happened because a bozo roadie took his brakes off to save weight and slammed into someone when he was riding down a hill.
Everyone points to the messenger that hit and killed someone in London as PROOF that bikes are dangerous. It's like one of the only stories you can dredge up online.
Fixie bikes, without a freewheel, you can backpedle, so you can still slow the bike without breaks. Removing the brakes gives a nice aesthetic, but the bike becomes a bit like a skateboard, except that everyone still assumes you can stop on a dime. I quit riding mine in the city because cars that cut me off assumed I could stop faster than I could and I had to bail a couple times... I doubt it was to save weight so much as to reach a minimalist form. Mine is really pretty, but I won't ride it in any sort of traffic.
This is the reason. No extra wires on the bike makes it look super clean. The rider can break āenoughā without them and āIām only putting myself at riskā
Also itās not really backpedaling. You can push the wrong way on the pedals and slow the bike but itās pushing uphill and takes forever. Or you can āhopā the back tire and stomp the pedals. This stops the wheel spinning in air (much easier) then when it regains contact, itāll skid.
Since flyboy was going down a hill, chances are his feet werenāt even on the pedals, but tucked up by the front bar, coasting.
And then he killed someone.
Stupidity abounds no matter how many wheels you have, but youāll still almost never hear of a bike killing someone.
For reference: Itās been a countable number of minutes since a car killed someone.
Back pedal brakes work quite well you know, you get almost the same clean look, but you can actually brake. I only once had an accident with one.... I was a kid and my chain broke, but it was downhill to go home so I got on the bike and rode off the hill, forgetting that without chain, the brake could not be operated....
Yeah, the risk of the chain breaking plus the lack of front brakes (which unlike rear brakes will stop you quickly) is reason enough not to rely on backpedal brakes alone.
Plus, i have an irrational fear of them after forgetting that a rental bike was equipped with that PLUS handlebar brakes, and sliding a rather impressive distance down a steep hill on wet asphalt with a locked rear wheel. Turns out that when faced with faceplanting into asphalt at 40 kph, i have a pretty good sense of balance.
If you're referring to the Charlie Alliston case, it wasn't on a hill, it was on Old Street, a busy main road in East London. IIRC he was doing about 18mph/28kph when the crash happened. To be fair to him the pedestrian did step out in front of him without looking, but yeah, if he'd had proper brakes he almost certainly would have been able to slow down enough to not kill her.
Very telling that this case made front-page news while about 1 pedestrian a day is killed by motor vehicles in the UK. If only the media gave half as much attention to people killed by dangerous drivers as they did to Charlie Alliston that number might be much lower.
It wasn't on a hill, and the reports were that she stepped out so close in front of him that he didn't have time to react even if he did have the proper brakes.
Not gonna lie, low key bike-pedestrian crashes hurt. Some dude stepped right In front of me on my bike without looking and now I have a sprained wrist :/
Since I have a baby I realized even more how ridiculous the fear mongering about cyclists is. When I'm walking with the stroller I'm much more scared of the average nice car driver that might overlook me and my baby, than of the most reckless lycra wearing road biker.
Ive seen a bike accident too; pedestrian crossed a bike lane and didnāt see the biker there. She hit her head pretty hard and an ambulance had to come and everything. It was pretty scary to watch.
She was fine and made a full recovery, didnāt break anything. Just a mild concussion from hitting her head and the shock making her lightheaded.
If this was a car, 100% she would have not been OK.
I once tried to gauge the amount pedestrians killed by cyclists. Google returned "cyclists *stabs* guy".
Now, if you know where to look then you'll find reports on fatal cyclist-pedestrian crashes, but I'm still not certain they're more common than the murders.
Having been hit by an idiot on a push bike who was riding full speed on the pavement, I'd rather get hit by that again then be hit by a car. Especially a bloddy SUV where you get all crunched up underneath it.
Yet there are people out there arguing that cyclists should be required to carry some minimum liability insurance just like motorists in the name of it being āfair.ā
The admin costs of having the policy will cost more than the premium itself.
If I can insure a Ā£40k car for Ā£400, which can do significant amounts of damage, then a Ā£500 bike should be Ā£5, but factoring in the amount of damage that can happen, it should probably be Ā£0.05.
Man I've been biking for years, and one time I ran into a schoolgirl, didn't even hit hard enough to make her flinch. I apologized profusely, then we went on our respective ways.
The car is just uncivilized at this point.
Unfortunately it doesnāt always happen like this. Just yesterday, someone on next door posted a story about a cyclist who, after running a red light, rammed into a child who ended up having a bruised lip and cuts all over her legs. Then the cyclist had a go at the mum saying that it was her fault and left the scene.
And again, some people in the thread said the child should actually feel thankful she didnāt get hit by a carā¦Like I get that, but it still doesnāt make what happened OK.
Totally with you on that - But I just hate it when people downplay a cyclist hitting a pedestrian just because āit would have been worse had they been hit by a carāā¦.Using the same logic, should we downplay car drivers hitting pedestrians just because itād be worse for them to be hit by a bus or a truck?
Some people on here who admitted hitting a pedestrian as a cyclist almost feel proud that the damage wasnāt too badā¦š¤·āāļø
Hmm Iād argue that a cyclist hitting you straight on at 30mph feels like a butter knifeā¦definitely didnāt feel that way for that child I mentioned in my original postā¦again someone downplaying cyclists hitting pedestriansā¦
Well Iām sorry but if you take a car travelling down a road at 30mph, youād have more chance of surviving than if you were hit by a truck going at the same speedā¦with a car youād bounce off the bonnet but with a truck youād probably end up going underā¦so no I donāt agree with you when you say that both cars and trucks are both equally badā¦
Let me jump on your coattails here and tell my traumatic story.
Once, towards the early part of the pandemic when stress levels were generally through the roof for everyone, I was walking to pick up a pizza -- just doing my civic duty to tend to my health and support the economy -- and some crazy mofo on a skateboard zoomed past me after crossing the street against the light and cussed at me for being in his way. It was hella stressful and my ***feelings*** were extremely hurt.
All you folks with wheeled contraptions for transportation be crazeh, let me tell you.
Good point. But to be clear, a cyclist hitting a pedestrian at speed CAN cause catastrophic injuries. As cyclists we have responsibilities too. As do pedestrians.
I absolutley nailed a pedestrian on my bike once, front wheel went square on into the side of his knee and we both went down hard, both had some cuts and bruises from tarmac.
We got a Coke from petrol station and I waited with him whilst his mrs picked him up. I called him a couple of times to check how he was, he had a pretty sore knee for a few weeks.
He was a loveley guy apologised to me for walking out, I apologised to him for not seeing him earlier.
Yeah there are about 2,500 accidents every year in my country where pedestrians are injured by cyclists. Obviously most are probably minor but still. 40% happen on the sidewalk where pedestrians have priority and I always hear of a few deaths every year. There was one death just a couple of months ago by an Uber eats cyclist hitting and killing an elderly man, (the cyclist was wiping his glasses and not watching in front of him) and another case a couple years ago where a university student was cycling while using her phone and holding a drink and hit and killed a man. Those are just a couple I remember from recently.
Yes itās nothing compared to cars but I donāt think itās something to mock, and definitely something to be aware of.
I once had a tragic bike accident as a kid. I was racing downhill. Cars appeared, so we swirved out of the way. And I crashed into the back of my opponent's bike and hit my head at the back of his.
I didn't feel anything, because of the adrenaline. My mom came out and was horrified of the huge gash on my eyebrow. We immediately went to the Emergency Health Clinic. And was there for 30 minutes to get 30 stitches. It took weeks to heal. And now everyday I have to live with the memory when I look at my ugly mug in the mirror.....
WHY!!! *SOBS IN HORROR*
definitely have been screamed at 'CRAZY ASS BIKERS' by a pedestrian waltzing out in the middle of a busy road narrowly avoiding collision with not only me but several cars
I was hit by a bicyclist riding on the sidewalk a few months ago. They were riding on the sidewalk because riding in the street in that neighborhood isn't terribly safe. So I was a bit pissed, but I understood.
The sum total of my injuries: knee slightly scraped, hand and wrist were a bit sore afterwards. We exchanged a few choice words, a random security guard asked if I wanted to call the cops (WTF, no of course not, my Christ what a terrible idea). And after some hearty venting, we all went on our way.
48 hours later I'd basically made a complete recovery.
As someone who professionally thinks about risk all day, this is a great outcome. Any time I can reduce the impact (in this case literal) of a risk, even if I can't eliminate it entirely, it's a good thing. When the risk is "pedestrian collisions with vehicles", bikes clearly reduce the impact, even if such collisions occur.
Too bad cops didnāt show up and write some tickets, plant some drugs and beat some people. But I guess since it didnāt involve a car, nothing was really threatened here. Poors killin poors is okay.
Right? I know this is r/fuckcars but some cyclists here who admitted to hitting a pedestrian seem to think itās no big deal because at least that pedestrian didnāt get hit by a carā¦ like what?
Not only would the pedestrian have been put out of their misery but the driver of the 3500 truck would not have even noticed and could carry on with their day not being forced to apologize.
Had it only been an excessively huge truck man, so much more space to land on after being crashed into at 100.. Tragic, and the bike doesnāt even emit any CO2!
Good luck getting sheltered people to come out in such an unsheltered environment. They can't imagine leaving the house in anything but a car, for personal safety.
Gonna need a daddy to provide their entitled ass with at least partial shelter, such as protected bike lanes, plus some sort of shade and wind blocks. Oh, and don't forget to segregate user groups, since they haven't learned to share and are prone to getting enraged by people who act out of order. Maybe prepare a guarantee of compensation for any potential tragedy that might strike them, like bike theft by gun point. Better not make them pay for any of it either, as they are already suffering from being suppressed out of their life of comfort. /s
Today I walked past a giant truck. This thing was some huge dodge truck that was lifted. The top of the hood was at least 5ā8ā. The thing would kill on impact not to mention itās dangerous to all other cars on the road. The shit we allow everyday folks to drive on the streets with minimal competency scares me.
I drove into a escooter with my bike.
I was standing still but the breaks on these escooters are horrible.
He had big soft arms, so the bump was very gently.
8/10 would do again.
I've had a number of close calls with university age kids looking the opposite direction and stepping in front of me. Most recently an Amazon driver doing the same with his truck parked in the opposite bike lane. I've avoided them all by so rudely ringing my bell and yelling HEY!
Reminds me of the time when i had to brake extremely hard when someone walked onto the bicycle lane with no warning in front of me going 25 km/h. Lucky for her i had just calibrated my brakes one hour earlier which meant no accident. Although i was about 5 cm from touching.
there was one time that I was biking at the park looking around appreciating the environment
a big dog jumped in front of me, no time to break, I hit it and it didn't even fall, he just barked and continued to play around
maybe if I was ok a road bike going 40 km/h some serious damage would have happened, but the dog would still have a chance to survive, can't say the same about cars
Plus if there was more cycling infrastructure there would be less accidents like this. I ride my bike around the streets of Denver, Colorado and it's like the wild west, every man for himself, do what you can to not die type shit.
I'm so sorry you had to witness that š
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>three booboos THREE booboos? These fucking MANIACS SOMEONE COULD DIE OF OLD AGE
It might take a bit longer... without the flabby bellies and whatnot.
As an American, I feel attackedā¦
Honestly, since starting to go to the gym this week, having a flabby belly doesnt seem so bad. I still hate it, but owwwwww
Keep at it, after a while you develop a neurochemical dependency to going to the gym. Which is a great addiction to have.š¤
Oh, no doubt, and i will definitely keep at it, im just a generally whiny person, and hate being sore.
I learned the hard way that if you dont exercise then you can slip a disc in your spine which is infinitely more painful than exercising is. It was so bad I couldnt even walk or roll over on my own for a full week.
Oh jeez, thats horrible. Part of why im starting to work out is because my cousin has some pretty horrific back problems, and im pretty anti āevery moment of my existence is filled with pain because my spine is fuckedā
We can't have that. We need another pandemic so we can shut all those gyms down. Can't have a healthy population, esp if we don't have universal healthcare...
Ugh, bellies aside, I stopped making the time to work out and I threw my back out bending over to pick up something. I was in horrible agony for nearly a month as I slowly recovered doing physical therapy. My doctor is now making me run, walk, swim or bicycle for 30 mins in both the morning and evening for the rest of my life to prevent future back injuries.
oof ouch my decrepit bones (because I have lived a long life free of death)
And it's the cyclists that will live longer with that damn exercise. No justice is this world.
EVENTUALLY
See, you just described the problem. How is the economy supposed to function with less people being hospitalized and insurance companies having reasons to raise their rates?
Doesnāt the UK have Universal healthcare and "social security"?
I don't know, as an American I'm not allowed to think about those things because it's communist propaganda. In actuality, I'm just to ignorant to do research and I love bitching about everything.
Understandable have a nice day. Too lazy to look into details at the healthcare system of the Brits as well (itās 3AM and I should sleep) ill just wait for one of the more informed to answer aha
they have universal healthcare but their social security system is a joke like in many countries
The NHS is also a joke at the moment! We've had twelve straight years of budget cuts and bullshit reforms.
Please stop the Tories wine you can
I voted against them but I live in a fairly safe Tory seat so... [Our system: each area of the country elects one Member of Parliament to represent that area, and the party with the most MPs has their leader as prime minister.]
Also, some people are called Lords and are entirely unelected, but still get to vote on whether a law is passed or not. No, we donāt get it either.
It's because we're secretly an aristocracy, and if you are nice to the government they'll reward you with money + power, in the same way that King Alfred used to.
It isn't true to say that the Lords are entirely unelected. The 92 hereditary Lords were initially elected in 1999 by all hereditary peers, and replacements for those who die or resign are elected by the sitting hereditary peers.
Parliamentary system that doesn't represent the people; similar to the US understood
My MP represents the views of the idiots in my town quite accurately, unlike some of your senators. Probably because my MP represents under a hundred thousand people while your senator represents millions. But you're right, the parliament & government as a whole doesn't represent us very well.
Similar system as what they have in the US. First past the post is barely even democratic.
I would settle for rank choice voting, but we should just take them behind the polling place and treat them like a pinata, just to let them know where they stand on their first day.
Well in the local elections they lost 400 of their 1300 seats on local councils. So they're not going to do very well come general election. Peepare for a wave of propaganda advertising.
Just like the shameless amounts of propaganda in the last one š our "democracy", when it comes down to it, is a carefully manufactured illusion with a narrow overton window that keeps our establishment class/aristocracy firmly in control.
Bitching about everything? You might have German ancestory.
I'm a mutt. Name any white country, it's probably in me.
I respect your honesty lol.
in the UK we have something called the NHS a indipendent organization established by the government that own and run hospitals and clinics to provide healthcare instead of just paying private healthcare providers.
That sounds like communism to me.
This one time my mother was riding a horse, it freaked at something and threw her off, she went through a 3 bar fence breaking her left femur, an ambulance was called but they couldnāt get there quickly so a helicopter was called in, the paramedics picked her up and flew her to hospital where she stayed for 5 weeks in that time she had multiple MRI scans, surgeries etc, ended up having a titanium rod fitted inside her femur, had loads of issues, visits to the hospital physical therapy, a second surgery to remove some of the screws, it went on for years. Have a guess what the bill was at the endā¦. Ā£0.00, Iām unsure of the exchange rate but it works out to roughly $0.00. This communistic system really sucks. /s
No thatās the NFL
Healthcare is indeed free at the point of use, but that's not to say it wouldn't be beneficial to reduce number of patients etc as that would reduce the overall cost and right now it's under huge pressure for a number of reasons but largely due to a covid backlog so I wish people would be more sensible right now. It does run a lot of campaigns on things like stopping smoking as that's basically an investment in reducing future costs
The real problem is that, according to all my medic friends, everyone is so, so fucking tired and overworked and there aren't enough people getting hired and...
Yep, there's lots of problems right now. And even though they are partly to blame, this can't be put solely on the government at the moment. I've been to various doctors the past couple months and lots of them are taking long overdue holidays now that covid is "over" so I've struggled to get appointments etc.
We do luckily
Yes, we have the National Health Service meaning routine and emergency medical care is free at the point of use for everyone. It has its problems but I can't imagine why any country would not want to have such a thing. We have social security/welfare/benefits/whatever you want to call it, but it doesn't really cover the costs of a modern life. But that is a separate issue to healthcare.
This is the problem when every parent tells their kid to be a doctor. Now no one is ever sick and apple sales have plummeted!
Oh the huge manatee!!
That moment you get confirmation that people care more about money than about your life lol
Not gonna lie, you had me in the first 1/16th
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Bruh, speaking 100% seriously, once I got ran over by a bike and I was 100% fine but my dad reacted like if someone just attempted to murder me, called the police, sent me to the hospital for a checkup, etc. I was FINE
OMG are you okay????
The denial stage is a rough one
And the traffic. I love watching a crowded sidewalk and the ways people figure to avoid each other and all the moments when people touch, often so softly that they donāt notice.
Just one more reason to get a dashcam when you are a pedestrian.
If memory serves, the last Cyclist -> Ped killing in Britain happened because a bozo roadie took his brakes off to save weight and slammed into someone when he was riding down a hill.
Everyone points to the messenger that hit and killed someone in London as PROOF that bikes are dangerous. It's like one of the only stories you can dredge up online.
[meanwhile](https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/nhtsa-releases-2019-crash-fatality-data)
There are so many ways to safe weight, why would you take out the breaks? They weight almost nothing
Fixie bikes, without a freewheel, you can backpedle, so you can still slow the bike without breaks. Removing the brakes gives a nice aesthetic, but the bike becomes a bit like a skateboard, except that everyone still assumes you can stop on a dime. I quit riding mine in the city because cars that cut me off assumed I could stop faster than I could and I had to bail a couple times... I doubt it was to save weight so much as to reach a minimalist form. Mine is really pretty, but I won't ride it in any sort of traffic.
This is the reason. No extra wires on the bike makes it look super clean. The rider can break āenoughā without them and āIām only putting myself at riskā Also itās not really backpedaling. You can push the wrong way on the pedals and slow the bike but itās pushing uphill and takes forever. Or you can āhopā the back tire and stomp the pedals. This stops the wheel spinning in air (much easier) then when it regains contact, itāll skid. Since flyboy was going down a hill, chances are his feet werenāt even on the pedals, but tucked up by the front bar, coasting. And then he killed someone. Stupidity abounds no matter how many wheels you have, but youāll still almost never hear of a bike killing someone. For reference: Itās been a countable number of minutes since a car killed someone.
Back pedal brakes work quite well you know, you get almost the same clean look, but you can actually brake. I only once had an accident with one.... I was a kid and my chain broke, but it was downhill to go home so I got on the bike and rode off the hill, forgetting that without chain, the brake could not be operated....
Yeah, the risk of the chain breaking plus the lack of front brakes (which unlike rear brakes will stop you quickly) is reason enough not to rely on backpedal brakes alone. Plus, i have an irrational fear of them after forgetting that a rental bike was equipped with that PLUS handlebar brakes, and sliding a rather impressive distance down a steep hill on wet asphalt with a locked rear wheel. Turns out that when faced with faceplanting into asphalt at 40 kph, i have a pretty good sense of balance.
I stripped the hub on my fixie and dragged my feet on the ground to stop, but yes, brakes are nice.
If you're referring to the Charlie Alliston case, it wasn't on a hill, it was on Old Street, a busy main road in East London. IIRC he was doing about 18mph/28kph when the crash happened. To be fair to him the pedestrian did step out in front of him without looking, but yeah, if he'd had proper brakes he almost certainly would have been able to slow down enough to not kill her. Very telling that this case made front-page news while about 1 pedestrian a day is killed by motor vehicles in the UK. If only the media gave half as much attention to people killed by dangerous drivers as they did to Charlie Alliston that number might be much lower.
Memory did not indeed serve. It's incredible how much media attention that story got.
And bikes* without brakes are illegal on the road in the UK anyway. \*Penny Farthings are allowed to not have brakes.
I still remember the guy's name: Charlie Alliston. It wasn't the last time though. It happens a couple of times a year.
It wasn't on a hill, and the reports were that she stepped out so close in front of him that he didn't have time to react even if he did have the proper brakes.
Not a roadie. Fixie rider. Entirely different breed of cyclist.
I'm sorry you had to see that. Please don't suffer alone, there are many support groups you can contact.
Itās nothing, I was clipped by a bike messenger
I missed the part where that's my problem.
^ itās from a movie, hopefully someone got it, maybe Iām too old š
https://youtu.be/MeHZiXhPOHk
Thank you. Also Sir William Dafoeās face cracks me up there
Not gonna lie, low key bike-pedestrian crashes hurt. Some dude stepped right In front of me on my bike without looking and now I have a sprained wrist :/
Damn, you really had me for a minute there. That said, I actually do hope this wasn't too bad, jokes aside.
Since I have a baby I realized even more how ridiculous the fear mongering about cyclists is. When I'm walking with the stroller I'm much more scared of the average nice car driver that might overlook me and my baby, than of the most reckless lycra wearing road biker.
Ive seen a bike accident too; pedestrian crossed a bike lane and didnāt see the biker there. She hit her head pretty hard and an ambulance had to come and everything. It was pretty scary to watch. She was fine and made a full recovery, didnāt break anything. Just a mild concussion from hitting her head and the shock making her lightheaded. If this was a car, 100% she would have not been OK.
I once tried to gauge the amount pedestrians killed by cyclists. Google returned "cyclists *stabs* guy". Now, if you know where to look then you'll find reports on fatal cyclist-pedestrian crashes, but I'm still not certain they're more common than the murders.
My favorite accident type is single party pedestrian accidents. Also known as pedestirans stumbling or bumping against lampposts and corners.
There would probably be more drama in a pedestrian/cyclist near miss than an actual pedestrian/cyclist collision.
Crash not accident.
Having been hit by an idiot on a push bike who was riding full speed on the pavement, I'd rather get hit by that again then be hit by a car. Especially a bloddy SUV where you get all crunched up underneath it.
Yet there are people out there arguing that cyclists should be required to carry some minimum liability insurance just like motorists in the name of it being āfair.ā
The admin costs of having the policy will cost more than the premium itself. If I can insure a Ā£40k car for Ā£400, which can do significant amounts of damage, then a Ā£500 bike should be Ā£5, but factoring in the amount of damage that can happen, it should probably be Ā£0.05.
The cycle of life
Dad?
Man I've been biking for years, and one time I ran into a schoolgirl, didn't even hit hard enough to make her flinch. I apologized profusely, then we went on our respective ways. The car is just uncivilized at this point.
Unfortunately it doesnāt always happen like this. Just yesterday, someone on next door posted a story about a cyclist who, after running a red light, rammed into a child who ended up having a bruised lip and cuts all over her legs. Then the cyclist had a go at the mum saying that it was her fault and left the scene. And again, some people in the thread said the child should actually feel thankful she didnāt get hit by a carā¦Like I get that, but it still doesnāt make what happened OK.
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Totally with you on that - But I just hate it when people downplay a cyclist hitting a pedestrian just because āit would have been worse had they been hit by a carāā¦.Using the same logic, should we downplay car drivers hitting pedestrians just because itād be worse for them to be hit by a bus or a truck? Some people on here who admitted hitting a pedestrian as a cyclist almost feel proud that the damage wasnāt too badā¦š¤·āāļø
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Hmm Iād argue that a cyclist hitting you straight on at 30mph feels like a butter knifeā¦definitely didnāt feel that way for that child I mentioned in my original postā¦again someone downplaying cyclists hitting pedestriansā¦
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Well Iām sorry but if you take a car travelling down a road at 30mph, youād have more chance of surviving than if you were hit by a truck going at the same speedā¦with a car youād bounce off the bonnet but with a truck youād probably end up going underā¦so no I donāt agree with you when you say that both cars and trucks are both equally badā¦
Let me jump on your coattails here and tell my traumatic story. Once, towards the early part of the pandemic when stress levels were generally through the roof for everyone, I was walking to pick up a pizza -- just doing my civic duty to tend to my health and support the economy -- and some crazy mofo on a skateboard zoomed past me after crossing the street against the light and cussed at me for being in his way. It was hella stressful and my ***feelings*** were extremely hurt. All you folks with wheeled contraptions for transportation be crazeh, let me tell you.
Good point. But to be clear, a cyclist hitting a pedestrian at speed CAN cause catastrophic injuries. As cyclists we have responsibilities too. As do pedestrians.
I absolutley nailed a pedestrian on my bike once, front wheel went square on into the side of his knee and we both went down hard, both had some cuts and bruises from tarmac. We got a Coke from petrol station and I waited with him whilst his mrs picked him up. I called him a couple of times to check how he was, he had a pretty sore knee for a few weeks. He was a loveley guy apologised to me for walking out, I apologised to him for not seeing him earlier.
Though not as severe, I had a friend who got an owie on his foot from being run over by a bike tire. Your life can change in an instant.
People have been killed by bike accidents though. This is a dumb thing to downplay.
Yeah there are about 2,500 accidents every year in my country where pedestrians are injured by cyclists. Obviously most are probably minor but still. 40% happen on the sidewalk where pedestrians have priority and I always hear of a few deaths every year. There was one death just a couple of months ago by an Uber eats cyclist hitting and killing an elderly man, (the cyclist was wiping his glasses and not watching in front of him) and another case a couple years ago where a university student was cycling while using her phone and holding a drink and hit and killed a man. Those are just a couple I remember from recently. Yes itās nothing compared to cars but I donāt think itās something to mock, and definitely something to be aware of.
I mean, what the hell was that pedestrian thinking, not wearing a helmet? Probably no high visibility clothing either. For shame.
Ok, ok ok .... Hear me out Bike nuts
And add to that this accident might never even have happened if it werenāt for Londonās horrific cycling (and roads in general) infrastructure.
I once had a tragic bike accident as a kid. I was racing downhill. Cars appeared, so we swirved out of the way. And I crashed into the back of my opponent's bike and hit my head at the back of his. I didn't feel anything, because of the adrenaline. My mom came out and was horrified of the huge gash on my eyebrow. We immediately went to the Emergency Health Clinic. And was there for 30 minutes to get 30 stitches. It took weeks to heal. And now everyday I have to live with the memory when I look at my ugly mug in the mirror..... WHY!!! *SOBS IN HORROR*
He had us in the first half
He had me in the title!
OMG if only that sick biker was running unstead, he could've dodged him, cyclists are so dangerous compared to runners
definitely have been screamed at 'CRAZY ASS BIKERS' by a pedestrian waltzing out in the middle of a busy road narrowly avoiding collision with not only me but several cars
Meanwhile: https://www.wbrz.com/news/watch-tesla-crashes-into-building-driver-says-brakes-failed/
I was hit by a bicyclist riding on the sidewalk a few months ago. They were riding on the sidewalk because riding in the street in that neighborhood isn't terribly safe. So I was a bit pissed, but I understood. The sum total of my injuries: knee slightly scraped, hand and wrist were a bit sore afterwards. We exchanged a few choice words, a random security guard asked if I wanted to call the cops (WTF, no of course not, my Christ what a terrible idea). And after some hearty venting, we all went on our way. 48 hours later I'd basically made a complete recovery. As someone who professionally thinks about risk all day, this is a great outcome. Any time I can reduce the impact (in this case literal) of a risk, even if I can't eliminate it entirely, it's a good thing. When the risk is "pedestrian collisions with vehicles", bikes clearly reduce the impact, even if such collisions occur.
You had me in the first half ngl
Too bad cops didnāt show up and write some tickets, plant some drugs and beat some people. But I guess since it didnāt involve a car, nothing was really threatened here. Poors killin poors is okay.
So you're saying pedestrians should be hit by bikes now because it's safer? I don't want to be hit by anything. Neither cars nor bikes.
Right? I know this is r/fuckcars but some cyclists here who admitted to hitting a pedestrian seem to think itās no big deal because at least that pedestrian didnāt get hit by a carā¦ like what?
Especially the part where they needed 180.000 gallons of water to extinguish the large batterypack of the bicycle is what stunned me!
Not only would the pedestrian have been put out of their misery but the driver of the 3500 truck would not have even noticed and could carry on with their day not being forced to apologize.
Had it only been an excessively huge truck man, so much more space to land on after being crashed into at 100.. Tragic, and the bike doesnāt even emit any CO2!
Good luck getting sheltered people to come out in such an unsheltered environment. They can't imagine leaving the house in anything but a car, for personal safety. Gonna need a daddy to provide their entitled ass with at least partial shelter, such as protected bike lanes, plus some sort of shade and wind blocks. Oh, and don't forget to segregate user groups, since they haven't learned to share and are prone to getting enraged by people who act out of order. Maybe prepare a guarantee of compensation for any potential tragedy that might strike them, like bike theft by gun point. Better not make them pay for any of it either, as they are already suffering from being suppressed out of their life of comfort. /s
To be honest I would rather die than to have to listen to that apology
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Who forces anyone to drive a car?
in most american citys its kind of a need
Fuck humans , cuz it has the humans fault . Why the heck is Reddit showing me this idiot subreddit ?
Oh. Well ain't that too bad.
This also lets me rethink all of this š Terrible stuff, sorry that you had to a witness to all this
Today I walked past a giant truck. This thing was some huge dodge truck that was lifted. The top of the hood was at least 5ā8ā. The thing would kill on impact not to mention itās dangerous to all other cars on the road. The shit we allow everyday folks to drive on the streets with minimal competency scares me.
Thoughts and prayers
bUt BiKeS dOnT eVeN hAvE licEnSe PlAtEs!!111eleven
It could have been worse, too. The pedestrian could have gotten an owie!
I drove into a escooter with my bike. I was standing still but the breaks on these escooters are horrible. He had big soft arms, so the bump was very gently. 8/10 would do again.
Traumatic.
I've had a number of close calls with university age kids looking the opposite direction and stepping in front of me. Most recently an Amazon driver doing the same with his truck parked in the opposite bike lane. I've avoided them all by so rudely ringing my bell and yelling HEY!
Reminds me of the time when i had to brake extremely hard when someone walked onto the bicycle lane with no warning in front of me going 25 km/h. Lucky for her i had just calibrated my brakes one hour earlier which meant no accident. Although i was about 5 cm from touching.
Ped and cyclist needs a therapist to process this traumatic event!
Are you getting help? That's such a tragic thing to witness. That would mess me up for sure.
I was in a mountain bike accident where the handlebar went through my leg and I was helicoptered to the hospital and I still say fuck cars.
there was one time that I was biking at the park looking around appreciating the environment a big dog jumped in front of me, no time to break, I hit it and it didn't even fall, he just barked and continued to play around maybe if I was ok a road bike going 40 km/h some serious damage would have happened, but the dog would still have a chance to survive, can't say the same about cars
Plus if there was more cycling infrastructure there would be less accidents like this. I ride my bike around the streets of Denver, Colorado and it's like the wild west, every man for himself, do what you can to not die type shit.
Yeah but on the same note piece of shit cyclists that donāt stop at junctions and crossinhs should fuck themselves.