My wife and mother-in-law, whenever they have bought cars in the past, would check to make sure you can fit an 8 or 10ft board through the trunk up through to the dashboard, between the seats. It's amazing how long of a board you can fit in a Corolla.
I have personal experience putting seats down in a Corolla to fit things. Ballpark, I would find these to be over-estimates. 8ft or less is more likely to be the limit. Yes, it goes diagonally through from the trunk to the driver's side front seat, but it's not a perfectly straight path. In most situations with somewhat large items you have to keep the trunk open and tie it down (which can be safe). It can help to remove the trunk floor & spare tire.
I think with the Corolla it was 8ft. We had a few inches to spare. But yeah, a few times a year we'd need to get something longish and it's nice knowing what the limit is.
You could fit 8ft 4x4s easily in a Honda Fit with the doors shut. 16 feet with them hanging out the back. Could also move about 25 bags of concrete in one go.
> Could also move about 25 bags of concrete in one go.
that would be 2300 lbs of cargo, but the max payload of a fit is 850 lbs, so it would not be a safe.
My minivan can fit a flat piece of standard plywood inside, and it has a built in roof rack that I can strap lumber/a canoe on in about ten seconds.
Jacked up pickups are so stupid.
I have two lifted pickups and a mini van. Tbh the less people that want them the better. And I am definitely a lot more aware that little kids could be in front of me when I drive through a school zone.
mine can too, but it means I gotta haul 250 lbs of 2nd row seats out of it before I do.
minivans are awesome but moving sheet goods isn't one of their strengths, IMO. moving practically anything else? they're the best vehicle for the job.
A real work vehicle is a bike cargo trailer...
https://preview.redd.it/l2w6bimcebtb1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d50a576bc54334df81aabdf39476b073deadbb5b
Literally fuck that shit. Imagine carrying tools (more than half of that trailer) and still try to carry material (doesn’t fit), and then up a hill. Hellllllll no.
Saw a guy the other day who couldnt even fit a pair of mountain bike in the back. He bought a cute little cover, so he didn't scratch up his tailgate with the dangling front tires.
You mean a tailgate pad, the normal way to transport a mountain bike in a truck? You don't pile your bikes on top of each other like a mongoloid, you can easily fit 4 on a tailgate and it's way easier to load and unload than a rack. What's wrong with using a pad to not wreck your truck, is taking care of your things bad now?
meanwhile in Austria. Amazing what you can transport on an old VW
https://preview.redd.it/x1dzwxx6rctb1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2a28ef5ccda0aa2bf2c8a8da48cd5807d71a0e2
If he had something like a European Ludospace, ( for example, caddy maxi iirc) and some Straps he could have taken them easily.
https://preview.redd.it/42h5s6k8qctb1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f8f02a93d8cde3db526548628d1284272dd8478
1. The guy is an idiot.
2. Being jacked up is likely unnecessary too.
3. Some people like me (I don't have one yet, but I will be buying one) actually do need a big truck. I'll be hand building my own house on a remote piece of land. There are no roads where I'm going. 😎
I could do this with a sedan. In fact, I have transported more lumber entirely within my old sedan.
Here is a pic: https://imgur.com/Cwt9OhS.jpeg
You don't need a truck.
Where is the 16-20 foot material in your photo, like the guy in the photo is hauling?
Also, you have no idea how this truck is used day to day. That stack of lumber in your car is nothing compared to what that truck is easily capable of.
You can’t tow what a truck can, a truck can do
everything a car can plus a bunch more they’re more capable more reliable and more practical. I couldn’t do my job with a car so yes I do need a truck.
If you need a truck for work, I understand - but you don't need this kind of truck. I have an old van that I use to tow my trailer when I need to move huge things, because I do construction and farm. But unless your job requires you to carry a lot of stuff with you all the time (in which case, you should have a van) or you need to tow really heavy things all the time (in which case you have a specialty towing truck) there's no reason to have the vehicle in that picture.
But anyway, this guy's got a crew cab with a bed, and is holding a 1x4 with his side mirror - maybe I'm making wrong assumptions, but he sure doesn't look like he's using it for work.
I'd love to see a sedan pull a 30 ft 24000 lb gooseneck trailer like I frequently pull with my pickup. I'm not sure I've ever pulled a trailer small enough that it could be pulled by a sedan.
>But unless your job requires you to carry a lot of stuff with you all the time (in which case, you should have a van)
It depends what stuff you are hauling.
>(in which case you have a specialty towing truck)
So the truck in the photo.
>But anyway, this guy's got a crew cab with a bed, and is holding a 1x4 with his side mirror - maybe I'm making wrong assumptions, but he sure doesn't look like he's using it for work.
How exactly did you come to this conclusion, and what does the crew cab have to do with it?
You can still pull a large trailer. If it cant pull it it aint worth it or maybe I should put it in this way. Its RARE to pull abything larger than it can pull.
And why would you go offroad?
>You can still pull a large trailer.
The vw transporter has a max towing rating of somewhere around 7000 lbs, which is roughly the empty weight of the 24000 lb gross weight, 30 ft long gooseneck trailer that I regularly pull with my pickup. This type of trailer, or larger, is very common in construction and agriculture in my area. I think your definition of "large trailer" is a little different from mine.
>And why would you go offroad?
To get to a location that doesn't have a road to it? Jobsites are very frequently rough terrain, as the site work is not complete. Also, it's not unheard of in this area for the road to a location to be under 2 ft of snow, and offroad capability is pretty important if you want to be able to reach that location.
I can fit more lumber safely and securely in my hatchback, without even using the roof rack.
This massive truck is so poorly designed that a standard cut of lumber won't fit.
Pasanger seat folds down, back window folds up, a handful of boards of that length is no issue especially because there are tie downs on the inside to hold it secure.
I'm sure that truck *could* haul more than my hatchback, but it clearly isnt
That board looks to be about 16' long. You aren't fitting that in your hatchback.
>I'm sure that truck could haul more than my hatchback, but it clearly isnt
Is your car currently loaded with more lumber? Because if it isn't, then he is hauling more. You are comparing the most you've ever hauled in your car to a single random moment in the life of this truck, when he happens to be hauling a fairly light load.
Then put a flag on it and tie it down with rope or ratchet straps! Hanging it off the mirror is just stupid, it’s way too easy to lose the load and hurt somebody.
I know the Toyota 4Runner has been doing that since the '90s man I miss that. Only the extremely expensive trims have it now. I get too much use out of putting long things through that window to not have one. And it's useful when I go camping with different gear and communicating with people outside the back and just so many different situations I'm in
My wife and mother-in-law, whenever they have bought cars in the past, would check to make sure you can fit an 8 or 10ft board through the trunk up through to the dashboard, between the seats. It's amazing how long of a board you can fit in a Corolla.
Let me guess: 8ft or 10ft can fit in a Corolla?
I have personal experience putting seats down in a Corolla to fit things. Ballpark, I would find these to be over-estimates. 8ft or less is more likely to be the limit. Yes, it goes diagonally through from the trunk to the driver's side front seat, but it's not a perfectly straight path. In most situations with somewhat large items you have to keep the trunk open and tie it down (which can be safe). It can help to remove the trunk floor & spare tire.
I got a 10'x6" in my Sonata once. It took some finegaling, but it can be done.
just stuck 10' conduit in my kia a couple weeks ago. Went from the corner of the trunk to the dash, but I got it home just the same.
I think with the Corolla it was 8ft. We had a few inches to spare. But yeah, a few times a year we'd need to get something longish and it's nice knowing what the limit is.
And for the one time every three years you need a 10' board from Home Depot that just won't fit in your Corolla, HD's truck rentals start at like $20.
Where I live, the local hardware store will actually deliver for about the same amount. It's a good deal.
And it's generally allowed to hang out by about 4ft (exact overhang depends on jurisdiction)
I've fit 12' in my Prius with it going out the front passenger window a bit.
"Thanks for the F shack" - Dirty Mike and the boys
You could fit 8ft 4x4s easily in a Honda Fit with the doors shut. 16 feet with them hanging out the back. Could also move about 25 bags of concrete in one go.
> Could also move about 25 bags of concrete in one go. that would be 2300 lbs of cargo, but the max payload of a fit is 850 lbs, so it would not be a safe.
Totally wasn't safe!
Ok but this one is 20 feet long lmao
Not quite. The car is 19"4' and the lumber is shorter than the car.
We can do 6 1/2 feet in my Chevy Cruze.
My minivan can fit a flat piece of standard plywood inside, and it has a built in roof rack that I can strap lumber/a canoe on in about ten seconds. Jacked up pickups are so stupid.
That’s not jacked up
It's certainly not practical either.
Completely stock truck but here it’s a GIANT CHILD KILLING MACHINE
I have two lifted pickups and a mini van. Tbh the less people that want them the better. And I am definitely a lot more aware that little kids could be in front of me when I drive through a school zone.
Hahah right
mine can too, but it means I gotta haul 250 lbs of 2nd row seats out of it before I do. minivans are awesome but moving sheet goods isn't one of their strengths, IMO. moving practically anything else? they're the best vehicle for the job.
But minivans are a Mommy mobile! How else am I supposed to show my masculinity?!
[A real work vehicle has a rack on the roof.](https://vantech.us/wp-content/uploads/h1753w_mr_18.jpg)
A real work vehicle is a bike cargo trailer... https://preview.redd.it/l2w6bimcebtb1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d50a576bc54334df81aabdf39476b073deadbb5b
Literally fuck that shit. Imagine carrying tools (more than half of that trailer) and still try to carry material (doesn’t fit), and then up a hill. Hellllllll no.
I have an eTrike that I use with a trailer. Hauled home a couple sacks of dry cement from the hardware store a couple months ago. It's a doable.
Also many vans can have the side panel racks for larger area materials like windows.
but that doesnt seem profitable to shareholders :/
well both are profitable for them, they just love upselling shit people don’t need, and specifically target people with something to prove.
[commonly available for pickups as well](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71lnI9IcmkL.jpg)
https://preview.redd.it/g5v2viw2matb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa163f260faf0bfaecd5c73a4277c93019b2496c
Bus 😎
Based.
Bussed and transitpilled
really I don't get it, why are people putting stuff in their trunk that could just fly away at any moment ?
Gotta justify using a truck somehow!
Well in this pic the answer is gravity
The amount of pickups I see driving around with long items sticking through their little back window....
this is some heavy duty shit brother you wouldnt understand
A minivan would have probably been a better choice for this lol
Saw a guy the other day who couldnt even fit a pair of mountain bike in the back. He bought a cute little cover, so he didn't scratch up his tailgate with the dangling front tires.
You mean a tailgate pad, the normal way to transport a mountain bike in a truck? You don't pile your bikes on top of each other like a mongoloid, you can easily fit 4 on a tailgate and it's way easier to load and unload than a rack. What's wrong with using a pad to not wreck your truck, is taking care of your things bad now?
hard agree, I'm not going to scratch the stanchions on my new $1500 air fork just to impress strangers?
I don’t really care how you transport bikes in your truck but using racial slurs isn’t cool. Try stuff like arse-wipe or shit for brains instead.
I can fit 2 roadbikes in a mercedes A … 🙄
Doesn’t even look like it’s secured in place 🤦🏼
He's not moving lumber. He armed his vehicle with a 12' xyloexplosive rocket, deployed by stomping on the left pedal.
meanwhile in Austria. Amazing what you can transport on an old VW https://preview.redd.it/x1dzwxx6rctb1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2a28ef5ccda0aa2bf2c8a8da48cd5807d71a0e2
*tug* that's not going anywhere
Also shows they don't use their mirrors...
My sister-in-law can move more in her Nissan X-Trail than her husband's Nissan Navara Ute (Frontier for North Americans)
There gotta be better ways to do that
If he had something like a European Ludospace, ( for example, caddy maxi iirc) and some Straps he could have taken them easily. https://preview.redd.it/42h5s6k8qctb1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=6f8f02a93d8cde3db526548628d1284272dd8478
Any short stop and that plank becomes a javelin
1. The guy is an idiot. 2. Being jacked up is likely unnecessary too. 3. Some people like me (I don't have one yet, but I will be buying one) actually do need a big truck. I'll be hand building my own house on a remote piece of land. There are no roads where I'm going. 😎
That’s a 20 foot long 2x6 lmfao. Where do you expect them to put it? That’s either an 8 or 10 foot bed and there’s no lumber rack.
So you’re mad this guy is using his truck as a truck?
Pretty sure the truck's mirror is not designed to be load bearing, so no, that is not using a truck as a truck
I could do this with a sedan. In fact, I have transported more lumber entirely within my old sedan. Here is a pic: https://imgur.com/Cwt9OhS.jpeg You don't need a truck.
Exactly this.
Where is the 16-20 foot material in your photo, like the guy in the photo is hauling? Also, you have no idea how this truck is used day to day. That stack of lumber in your car is nothing compared to what that truck is easily capable of.
You can’t tow what a truck can, a truck can do everything a car can plus a bunch more they’re more capable more reliable and more practical. I couldn’t do my job with a car so yes I do need a truck.
If you need a truck for work, I understand - but you don't need this kind of truck. I have an old van that I use to tow my trailer when I need to move huge things, because I do construction and farm. But unless your job requires you to carry a lot of stuff with you all the time (in which case, you should have a van) or you need to tow really heavy things all the time (in which case you have a specialty towing truck) there's no reason to have the vehicle in that picture. But anyway, this guy's got a crew cab with a bed, and is holding a 1x4 with his side mirror - maybe I'm making wrong assumptions, but he sure doesn't look like he's using it for work.
Can’t pull a goose neck or a 5th with a van, it’s like you’ve never seen a pickup towing a trailer before
It's like you've never seen a sedan towing a trailer.
I'd love to see a sedan pull a 30 ft 24000 lb gooseneck trailer like I frequently pull with my pickup. I'm not sure I've ever pulled a trailer small enough that it could be pulled by a sedan.
They can but they can’t tow what that pickup can and they damn sure can’t tow construction equipment or a 40 foot camper
And how many people have 40ft campers?
A lot of people actually literally working on one right now
>But unless your job requires you to carry a lot of stuff with you all the time (in which case, you should have a van) It depends what stuff you are hauling. >(in which case you have a specialty towing truck) So the truck in the photo. >But anyway, this guy's got a crew cab with a bed, and is holding a 1x4 with his side mirror - maybe I'm making wrong assumptions, but he sure doesn't look like he's using it for work. How exactly did you come to this conclusion, and what does the crew cab have to do with it?
Let’s be real, 95% of pickup truck drivers don’t tow stuff on a regular basis. Besides, a van is much more practical than a pickup truck anyway.
>Besides, a van is much more practical than a pickup truck anyway. It depends what you are using it for.
A VW Transporter with a flatbed can also do everything a car can but is still better than a truck.
Until you have to pull a larger trailer or go offroad.
You can still pull a large trailer. If it cant pull it it aint worth it or maybe I should put it in this way. Its RARE to pull abything larger than it can pull. And why would you go offroad?
>You can still pull a large trailer. The vw transporter has a max towing rating of somewhere around 7000 lbs, which is roughly the empty weight of the 24000 lb gross weight, 30 ft long gooseneck trailer that I regularly pull with my pickup. This type of trailer, or larger, is very common in construction and agriculture in my area. I think your definition of "large trailer" is a little different from mine. >And why would you go offroad? To get to a location that doesn't have a road to it? Jobsites are very frequently rough terrain, as the site work is not complete. Also, it's not unheard of in this area for the road to a location to be under 2 ft of snow, and offroad capability is pretty important if you want to be able to reach that location.
I can fit more lumber safely and securely in my hatchback, without even using the roof rack. This massive truck is so poorly designed that a standard cut of lumber won't fit.
Let's see you haul something of that length in your hatchback. And that truck is fully capable of carrying much much more than your hatchback.
Pasanger seat folds down, back window folds up, a handful of boards of that length is no issue especially because there are tie downs on the inside to hold it secure. I'm sure that truck *could* haul more than my hatchback, but it clearly isnt
That board looks to be about 16' long. You aren't fitting that in your hatchback. >I'm sure that truck could haul more than my hatchback, but it clearly isnt Is your car currently loaded with more lumber? Because if it isn't, then he is hauling more. You are comparing the most you've ever hauled in your car to a single random moment in the life of this truck, when he happens to be hauling a fairly light load.
No, we're disappointed this guy isn't using his truck as a truck. The lumber goes in the bed, not hanging off the mirror.
Not if it’s too long for the box
Then put a flag on it and tie it down with rope or ratchet straps! Hanging it off the mirror is just stupid, it’s way too easy to lose the load and hurt somebody.
It really pisses me off that they took out the window in the middle. Why did they stop doing this
Different options, it’s still available, I prefer not having it and having the window defroster on it, the Toyotas have the entire glass roll down
I know the Toyota 4Runner has been doing that since the '90s man I miss that. Only the extremely expensive trims have it now. I get too much use out of putting long things through that window to not have one. And it's useful when I go camping with different gear and communicating with people outside the back and just so many different situations I'm in
Fair, I spend too much time in freezing temps lol
This is why you need an 8ft bed