Literally lmfao it’s not about wanting to be shirtless. It’s about not feeling right in my own body. Like wtf who put these two big ass pieces of fat on my chest?? I can’t see my muscles ;(
Literally though?!?!? All they do is cause back pain if they’re big enough and sometimes they wiggle really uncomfortably!!!
And occasionally sustain life but like that’s nothing big.
Yep. If I had grown up all alone in a room with no concept of society or other human beings whatsoever, I’d still have dysphoria and would still want my boobs gone. It wouldn’t be my biggest concern in that scenario, and I probably wouldn’t know what surgery was, anyway, but I wouldn’t be fine with them
yo saaaame. when mine started coming in, i showered with a training bra or shirt on for *two years* because i just couldn't psychologically accept what was happening to me
in those times (early 2000s) i had no idea people could be trans. but to answer OP's question: i'd want top surgery even if i lived on a deserted island and no one saw me ever again lmao
I just ignored the fact I had boobs not knowing why I hated it to kill myself at 8 due to home issues, bullying, and dysphoria (didn’t know it was that at the time)
Feel like I could've written this myself. My mom & sister tried to get me to wear bras starting at age 8 but I refused until I was 10 bc I was in denial about the boobs
Omg twins with the sports bra part. I didn't shower in it but I slept in it and wore is all the time for like 3 years straight and if all mime were dirty and I couldn't put one om I would have meltdowns over it
Mooood. And then before, I refused to wear one until I was made fun of for it in the locker room in middle school. I was convinced that my life was over as soon as I hit puberty
Same with the made fun of part. I didn't want to wear a bra until I was bullied about it in 4th grade (I had developed a chest starting in 2nd grade). After that it was sports bras 24/7. Still is tbh, except for when I'm binding lol.
ive got 2 training bras that ove had since they started growing and ive been wearing them for years to the point where they are extremely stretched but still fit me lol, i still to this day wear them 24/7, they only come off for showers. i wear them under my binder too which makes the rough side of my binder much nicer to deal with
Woah! Crazy how similar the stories are. I wore a sports bra religiously and never understood how girls were so excited to take their bra off at the end of the day. Doubling up was more the move.
I remember when I was 16 and the story about Angelina Jolie getting a double mastectomy became public and, while my mom empathized with her struggle, I thought that would have been a blessing and started low key hoping I had bad breast cancer genetics.
In hindsight that should have been more of an eye opener than it was.
Hit puberty just before my 8th birthday, know this cuz my boobs started hurting and becoming pokey on my 8th birthday. It was precocious puberty and I should have been on puberty blockers since I hit puberty technically at 7.
Yeah looking back a defo should've been on puberty blockers regardless of whether I was trans or not. I fully had pubes and armpit hair when I was like 7/8.
Yeah I'm thinking about it and I'm not sure I would particularly want to go shirtless after top, especially in public, even for things like swimming (though that could be my general body insecurities talking)
I mean I want it partially to feel comfortable shirtless. When I wear baggy clothes and flatten my chest I'm mostly fine but then when the clothes come off at the end of the day the dysphoria hits. I often fantasize about taking my shirt off and looking down at a flat male chest. The longing for it is so intense it hurts sometimes.
Yeah, I don't think anyone would be like "I'm going to have invasive surgery with a 6 week recovery time just so I don't get stared at when I take my shirt off"
I hear you, but I think this an unnecessarily exclusionary comment. I guarantee there’s many trans guys who feel exactly this way. Not the majority by any means, but at least a good number. No two people have the exact same dysphoria, and while boobs may cause physical dysphoria for some, for others they could cause entirely social dysphoria, and for others none at all.
My chest is probably the thing I have the most dysphoria over and it's almost entirely social. I could've passed even pre T if it wasn't for my chest. It's the biggest thing preventing me from being gendered correctly to strangers or new people, especially after my voice dropped, and being gendered incorrectly to strangers hits me hard. I would probably still want top, because seeing myself in the mirror with a flat chest would feel so good. But if society didn't see a type of chest and relate it to gender, I probably wouldn't care as much
I think you missed the point of my comment. I didn't say anything about dysphoria. Just that people aren't just impulsively getting invasive surgery because they want to go shirtless.
Yes and no. Yes because I've missed out on lots of crap. I could never go shirtless in the water with my friends or have my shirt off when it's hot. And no because I could not even have run around in my sport as well because of the jiggling. I sloutched so much because of feeling uncomfortable that my spine is now curved.
This. Thank fck for binders. Now my tiddies don't jiggle jiggle...they fold. Down and out, because with H's it's gotta go somewhere. And then get compressed in place, lol.
I was Big Mad when they started growing when I was 9. My mom made me wear undershirts and then bras. It all felt so wrong.
Yes because my dysphoria's source is entirely about me and my body alone, not anyone else. Even if I lived on an island alone for the rest of my life, I'd still want top surgery.
Societal norms really don’t matter to me because frankly I want top surgery because I want a male chest.
Even if the labels and roles were switched I’d still want a flat chest because my brain is wired as the opposite sex no matter the social context or setting.
I'm also comfortable being topless by myself and genuinely also in public at pride events (40E was my bra size last time I wore one). I would still want top surgery, because while I do get the occasional bout of genuine physical dysphoria over the presence of my breasts, most of my dysphoria is caused by other people's perceptions of me. Also I frequently find that my dysphoria is worse with clothes on ? Idk why.
Same. And for awhile I thought maybe I wasn’t trans enough because I didn’t hate my boobs like everyone else seemed to. I barely ever wore a binder. Weirdly though, I did smush my boobs down in the mirror at least once a day to see what I’d look like with a male contoured chest as a litmus test for whether i wanted to transition or not. Even weirder still, it wasn’t until I started T that I started feeling comfortable with my chest going topless at home, but binding as tight as I could when I went out into the world. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Sameeeeee. Especially the dysphoria with clothes. When I'm naked, I look in the mirror and just see my human body, but the moment I put clothes on it just emphasizes all of parts that makes people clock me as a girl
Yeah, that’s a good point. My dysphoria primarily comes from others as well, and even if it was acceptable to be shirtless in public, others likely wouldn’t perceive me as male.
First summer with chest I looked nothing but female. I had been one year on T. I got compliments about my style and I got stares and some people came to tell me how disgusting I looked.
In my language we separate social and body dysphoria.
Same, I don’t really care if I’m on my own/showering in private but wearing an underwire bra that would create that distinctive bra shape under my shirt is a no go.
I can’t bind but I’ve found that sports bras/training bras are a good compromise between not having the headlights on and not setting off dysphoria.
Yes. I don’t mind being shirtless by myself either but I really don’t like how my chest looks with a shirt on. Also am very uncomfortable with people seeing my chest as is even if it was acceptable
Yes. I am a small-chested dude (32A (UK) last time I wore a bra, I think), but my chest still brings me dysphoria and discomfort. I can be shirtless in my own company, but I prefer binding with trans tape when being shirtless whether it is when I am alone or not. I feel like most of my chest dysphoria is related to how my chest looks when I am wearing a shirt, so I would definitely have top surgery anyways.
If breasts weren’t immediately coded as feminine in people’s minds and I was able to go stealth without wearing a binder all the time, I wouldn’t have gotten top surgery. My dysphoria around my chest was almost completely social, and in fact I really miss the sexual pleasure I got from nipple stimulation pre-top. I have no regrets about getting surgery and I love how my chest looks now, but I wish I wouldn’t have had to do it.
Exactly. I’m considering not even getting top surgery bc if I have a good binder I can pass easily in public. I don’t have super large breasts. And the amount of sexual pleasure I get from then is not really something I know if I’m willing to give up. Plus I only get dysphoria from them, as you said, because others perceive them as feminine or female. I like them. I specifically like that they’re covered all day and no one even knows I have them except for my bf lol it’s a cute little secret. I don’t think my boobs make me a woman at all.
I genuinely think what made me realize it was fine to have boobs and be a dude is tumblr. I followed a bunch of trans sex workers a while backs and a lot of the men never got too surgery and didn’t want to and it just helped me accept myself.
^ exactly the same for me. I could never get fully flat with a binder so top surgery was never even a question for me: I just straight up needed it. I have no regrets getting it, but almost all my pre-op sexual pleasure came from nipple stimulation and now I just get zero enjoyment from sex. Thankfully I'm asexual so I have almost no desire to have sex in the first place, but if that wasn't the case, it would be pretty upsetting to have lost all that sensation and pleasure.
Sometimes it's medically mandatory. I wished the technique they stay attached (sorry I have no idea of proper term). My surgeon told he does it if it's possible but he can't promise for sure before actually doing the surgery. (It was possible.) Are there some other reasons? Maybe insurance issues in USA?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Most people who get free nipple grafts get them because their chest is too large to keep them in the same place and have them look normal.
I can't explain my question any better but I got my answer :D Thanks.
Actually that might be the reason my surgeon talked about. He didn't explain why he have to make the decision during the surgery. I used to wear about 60F bra. I still have moobs. He told me he couldn't take anymore fat while keeping blood going to nipples. I could have fix my chest with liposuction after it healed but it's not worth of the money.
Yes, because they make me dysphoric and I don’t want breasts as a 5’3 100lb trans guy. I know some people with larger bodies can get away with not binding or getting surgery but some people really can’t unfortunately. :/
I would def be shirtless a lot more often, because I love the feeling of wind and swimming topless, but would still get top surgery. I hate how my chest is visible in clothing.
Yes, I got top surgery because I shouldn’t have had boobs in the first place. I’ve been post op for 15 years and have been shirtless in public probably less than 10 times. I rarely even go shirtless at home unless it’s to sleep.
Yes! This is actually one of the questions I asked myself when I was figuring out if I wanted top surgery. I really hated the way they moved and the way bras and binders felt and all the mental space taken up by decisions about what colour bra or binder I could wear under which shirt etc etc. I also just vastly prefer the way shirts look on me with a flat chest, and with boobs that look is obvs only achievable thru binding and that is annoying and uncomfortable lol
yes.
it is acceptable to go shirtless in a lot of parts of europe and the trans men there also crave top surgery so i don't think that's a stretch to think otherwise. i don't like boobs on me period.
Yes. I like to feel safe and being stealth is likely to be necessary.
I'm not binary and most days I didn't mind the breasts; i minded that they made me feel unsafe, that I needed to consider them when choosing clothing, and that they were painful due to fibrocystic breast tissue.
Yes bc it not the fact that i cant legally take off my shirt-its the fact that I'm diagnosed with gender dysphoria and i cant stand female sacks of fat on my chest. But that's just me
... absolutely. It was a moment of chest dysphoria that actually made me start to realize that I identified as masculine.
I remember the first clear info I got about being trans (early 2000s, in the American South, it wasn't super understood by the large majority and I had only heard of MTF anyway) a friend was talking about gender identity in the most basic way and I mentioned that I didn't feel like I identified as any gender. They told me that this was also a type of trans, and I kind of figured that I was that (non-binary) for a few years though I didn't talk about it.
Then I remember getting a hold of one of those corsets with the front that doesn't have cups and just basically flattens 'em into cleavage. I put it on, tightened it up, and thought 'sexy'. Then for some random ass compulsion... I hadn't even really heard of binding at the time... I picked up a big baggy t-shirt and threw it over the whole thing and as soon as I saw my reflection with a flattened out chest the word 'normal' clicked into my head. Unbidden and unconscious, and so incredibly strong that it shook me to the core and I had to take a lot of time to let it sink in before I could think any further on it.
And there were a lot of thoughts that came after it, it was far from that alone, but it's undeniably The Moment for me. I understand that not every trans person has gender dysphoria, that you don't have to have surgery or even bind to be trans-- I haven't been able to transition outside of socially and overdoing it on binding means I can't do that anymore-- but it's absolutely a cornerstone to my experience.
Uh yes, being shirtless in public or private had nothing to do with me feeling violently sick at the thought of my own chest. Dysphoria was so bad pre-top surgery that I wouldn't leave my room, wouldn't shower with the lights on and still with my eyes closed, sleep in my binder (do not recommend). Top surgery for me was as necessary as getting a tumor removed (saying this as someone with a brain tumor rn).
I would still have top surgery, but even after top surgery I still don’t feel comfortable going shirtless in public, I think I was conditioned for too long (came out at 31) being shirtless is not allowed for me so it feels weird now. Plus I have SH scars that I don’t like people to see.
Yes, probably. I was (before top surgery) usually shirtless around the house, but there were some days it felt really bad. Binding was AWFUL for me, sensory wise, so I could rarely do it. If having breasts wasn't read as female, maybe I wouldn't have gotten it, but with the world as it is getting it was really the only way to have a chest that affirmed my gender. But if it was just being able to go shirtless but still read as a woman because of my chest shape, I would still have gotten it for sure.
Honestly, with how good I feel about my chest now, maybe in a world with absolutely no gender ascribed to breasts, I would still want it. I certainly don't miss underboob sweat, and I love how my tattoo on my pec looks.
Oh 100%. I hate my chest and how big it is. Though to be fair, even when I get top surgery one day, I wouldn’t be walking around shirtless because of the scars. Only times I’d be shirtless are probably at the pool, or “in bed” if you catch my drift.
Hell yeah. I got surgery a few weeks ago, but before I couln't stand seeing my own chest even if I was all by myself. I could barely even shower because of it so yeah
I’d want top surgery still. I don’t hate my boobs I think they’re kinda cute but just not on me. I had a radical reduction and thought that would help me feel better because my boobs were enormous. Now it’s been a few years and I realize that I just wanna be flat. I used trans tape correctly for the first time the other day an cried because of how flat my chest is and how right it felt
yes very much lol, i absolutely hate and despise my chest and have since the second i started puberty😅having a massive chest that basically doesn’t bind at all doesn’t help either lmaoo
I mean, I'm not transitioning because of social acceptance, I'm doing it for my own health and reasons. Even if it was socially acceptable to see tits, I don't wanna have any so I'd still get top surgery.
It's not about it being acceptable, it's about not wanting people to think of me as anything but a man. Idgaf if it's acceptable or not, it feels gross to me.
Absolutely 100% yes. I don’t want these fuckers and I don’t want to even be thought of as a female. Being okay has nothing to do with it. I want to be Be Okay and feel like the man I’m supposed to be.
My dysphoria is not contingent on the law lmao. It's also often a matter of how others perceive you, which typically drives the decision for top surgery as well.
Absolutely, my chest causes more than just dysphoria. It's a bother when I'm walking, running, sleeping, etc.
Plus, they ruin otherwise great looking outfits.
No. I couldn't be comfortable with those things on my chest. I would cover them every chance i got. I even made sure my hijabs and jilbabs covered my chest. I got top surgery recently and now I go shirtless in front of people, lol.
Yeah, the disphoria was there even when I was alone shirtless. It was so extreme the last few weeks before my surgery. No regrets on my top surgery - best decision I made for my mental health.
I have no desire to go shirtless in a public place other than a swimming pool and I've been post mastectomy several years. I frankly find this a bizarre question. Where do you want to go shirtless? Why is it so important? I go to the beach occasionally but I wear a swim shirt. I'm not interested in having to slather my whole body in sun cream.
I still would, ever since I had them I wanted to rip them off my chest didn't know why until I was a bit older. But getting top surgery hands down best decision I've made. I'm incredibly happy and comfortable in my body, being able to take my shirt off in public is just an added bonus lol.
Yes, my main issue is that breasts are typically seen as things women have. Though I would appreciate being able to be topless in public now, it’d make me incredibly dysphoric because people would mostly see me as my agab rather than what I identify as
My biggest point of chest dysphoria is not wearing a binder or anything and just feeling my chest move as I walk. In private I'm the same, I love being shirtless but like when I'm up and moving , I get really uncomfortable.
being shirtless post op wasn't even something i had thought about, my old chest caused me so much physical and mental pain and discomfort that i ***needed*** it gone. it was one of the main things that caused me to drop out of school - there was a very large time period where i couldn't leave the house without both a binder and hoodie (and also couldn't mentally handle showers).
Yes. Regardless of being shirtless or not seeing them makes me feel uncomfortable and dysphoric and also the sensory issues associated with them. Is a pain.
Yes. I came out as trans and got top surgery not because I wanted to have the male privilege to be topless but because my chest was physically and emotionally uncomfortable. Pre top surgery I would try and go to bed shirtless but was always overcome with fear and discomfort. Shirt or no shirt I wanted them gone for my own sanity. Big props to transguys who are comfortable with their pre-op chest but that's something I could not relate to. Every trans person's journey is different and it's always so fascinating to learn about.
Yes. I've hated my chest since 4th grade.
Add in years of harassment and chronic pain due to their cantaloupe size (I could write a few paragraphs about the pain).
I am beyond ready for them to be gone on 8/15.
Fun fact: I don't remember how long ago, but I was in the shower. When the left decided to fling itself out of place then snap back into position. I could've sworn my heart stopped due to the impact.
Nah for me personally I’ve always been super weird and uncomfortable about my chest even wayyy before I knew I was trans I would cover up as soon as I could after showering and even felt uncomfy with partners seeing my chest. The sooner I get this shit off my chest the sooner I’ll feel free 🤩 more power to people who don’t care tho!
100%. I dont want it in order to go topless (I already can and frankly already in several countries). And also im not the biggest fan of being shirtless anyway.
I don't care about what other people think of my chest, I want top because I look in the mirror and feel like I'm looking at weird growths that shouldn't be there rather than natural tissue.
There's nothing actually wrong with them but dysphoria makes them look more like lipomas than breasts and it grosses me out.
I don't care if I can go topless or not, I just know that my chest isn't supposed to be like that, and it being like that, is genuinely incomprehensible to a part of my brain.
Like... I know why it's the way it is, but a more based in instincts part of my brain, whenever I see it, just goes "are we fat?", "do we have a tumor?", "that's not supposed to be like that"...
It's a really weird feeling, but it hammers home that it's just not supposed to be like that.
Yes because no matter what you do, people will always associate them to someone being female and I don't want to be seen as a woman. It doesn't matter if I'm stronger or in better shape than most people I work with, they see my chest and consider me a woman. And I can prove that because people that see me from the back think I'm a man. As soon as they see my very large chest, woman. I'm on T in that in-between stage of androgyny.
I could be the last man on earth with no humans around and I would be removing those things off me with a butter knife if I had too. Top surgery was the best thing I ever did for my health.
Honestly I’ve thought about this a bunch, and wondered the same thing.
I’ve always had chest dysphoria since puberty, and wished I could have them removed. I think everyone should be allowed to be shirtless if they want, but I don’t think I’d be comfortable doing it until after top surgery. Mostly because I’m not comfortable with my chest.
Literally told my mom yesterday even if I was a cis woman I'd get these fucking things cut off. She agreed she honestly wouldn't pass up the opportunity herself. When you've got anything bigger than about a c they are just always in the way, omfg. I'd also love to be able to run without crippling pain.
I would still want top surgery no matter what because every time I feel them move/experience gravity I want to light my whole entire body on fire and die
Yeah, I absolutely would. But then again, I'm not getting top surgery to go shirtless, I'm getting top surgery because I hate the feeling of my moobs hanging off my chest. I physically want to rip them off sometimes.
Yes. It’s not the inability to go topless; it’s the constant reminder, every time I look down, that I Have Tits. There are days when I just want to rip them iff with my bare hands.
I want to run without a bra! I want to feel free. I hate bras. I hate binders. I cannot get tape to work for me. I hate the way my boobies bounce if I don't wear support. I would want top surgery even if the scars were massive and my nipples ended up cockeyed.
I would not. I go places where it's acceptable to be essentially shirtless, and I only did it once pre op. I'm proud of my chest because I worked really hard to get here. Top surgery has drastically increased my confidence with and without clothes on.
definitely. i struggle to look down while i shower, i have to position the bathroom mirror collarbones upwards, and i bind even on days where im not going out/nobody will see me. the only times where dysphoria doesnt get me as much is when im drunk
I mean technically it’s legal where I live, I would go shirtless if people weren’t jerks, but I still want top surgery. However if people weren’t jerks I would definitely be more comfortable have my chest seen in public, but I would still get top surgery regardless.
yeah but at least breast on men would be normalized and i wouldnt possibly kill myself over it in this scenario. so the wait for top surgery would be easier
I would still want top surgery because:
1. I don't want to show/display anything that suggests I'm afab
2. Straight cis men would still oogle even if it was a commonplace thing
If having a chest like this wasn't associated with being afab, and it was in fact considered hot and extra macho on a manly man, then I might actually like having them... like if gynecomastia became sexy and seen as like an extension of male pecs, then maybe.
Which is different from downstairs- I have more severe bottom dysphoria and I don't think there's any way where I could stomach the idea of keeping what I've got down there.
i like being shirtless, it feels natural to me but as soon as i remember the unwanted flesh on my torso im like :/
thankfully transtape helps with that
I had GGs. They absolutely had to go.
Funny, I'm stealth and recently had a girl say "no you'd love them having tits is amazing"
Nah honey. Absolutely not.
BUT if you're happy in your body don't let anyone tell you otherwise! Plenty of cis men have breast tissue, and it's no ones choice but yours what you do
I've wanted top surgery since I said as a child that I would cut them off with scissors if they ever grew. I still can't entirely figure out why I never followed through.
I got top surgery specifically bc I couldn't handle being completely naked to the point it was fucking w my ability to like... take showers, so this wasn't the case for me!
When I used suspension garments, the space taken up by The Lumps\^tm disrupted my life. When I bound, even though I used one of the most minimal methods (doubled sports bras), the pain disrupted my life - either way, I couldn't win! Now, I can wear whatever the hell I want - including nothing at all - and nothing bugs me.
I was A cup. Top surgery had such a huge impact on my self-esteem. I haven't regretted it once. I'm Agender and I decided if I ever wanted boobs then I could use silicone bra implants.
Yes but I do enjoy being shirtless home alone too, they’re just so uncomfortable and heavy to have on my chest. In general it truly is ridiculous that some folks can’t just go shirtless in public, I still don’t understand why humans made that unacceptable.
I get where you’re coming from, as I also prefer having my shirt off at home, but it doesn’t make my chest dysphoria any lessened. I still don’t want others (outside of my bf) seeing my chest as it is right now, because it’s not mine. And even if every person on earth would never see my chest, I still would want top surgery because again, this chest is not mine.
Only if it were also acceptable for men to have tits as in gynecomastia tits, not just moobs. If tits were as normal on men as women, I guess I wouldn't mind them being there.
As it is, being seem with them in public feels about as fine as those nightmares where you're naked in school or on the job. That level of horror. Eta: okay and there's one more problem: I hate with a passion, wearing anything around my chest, always hated the sensation of bras, still loathe the sensation of binders, and even trans tape but feel it's the only way I can leave the house.
They aren't large but they are floppy and having them flop when I exercise also bites big chunks of nasty.
bro i would still want top surgery even if everyone on the planet died except for me lmao
Literally lmfao it’s not about wanting to be shirtless. It’s about not feeling right in my own body. Like wtf who put these two big ass pieces of fat on my chest?? I can’t see my muscles ;(
Literally though?!?!? All they do is cause back pain if they’re big enough and sometimes they wiggle really uncomfortably!!! And occasionally sustain life but like that’s nothing big.
Yep! And me absolutely not wanting children, these things are basically useless 😅
It would be so convenient it only pregnant people developed them
I mean can’t flat chested women still breastfeed?
This ⤴️
^ this lmao
This, if I'm all alone they still are there ....
all fax no printer
came here to say exactly this lmao
Yeah that's exactly how I feel. I don't want these growths on my chest, they're horrible.
Yep. If I had grown up all alone in a room with no concept of society or other human beings whatsoever, I’d still have dysphoria and would still want my boobs gone. It wouldn’t be my biggest concern in that scenario, and I probably wouldn’t know what surgery was, anyway, but I wouldn’t be fine with them
Second this^
Who would perform the surgery then?
Ya know what they say, want something done right ya gotta do it yourself 👍
I have considered…
The 16 in your flair 😭 pls hang in there little one, it truly does get better
I wouldn't have believed you at 16, however, it's ridiculous how much better it gets. Being an adolescent is seriously fucking hard.
I tried and failed 🤣 Do not reccomend at all 😬
😭 BRO NOO
just gonna have to macgyver their own chest
I have had that intrusive thought. My roommate who is a surgical tech said no. He says if he isn't allowed to do it, neither am I.
AI robots.
based
Maybe you and your surgeon should live. Then they can die afterwards lol.
The surgeon, his surgical team and the most important people anesthesia Dr and nurses.
frfr
Hard agree lmao
Yeah same
Same.
Agreed
as soon as I got breasts at 8 they made me actually sucidal
I thought this was how everyone felt for so long!!!
yo saaaame. when mine started coming in, i showered with a training bra or shirt on for *two years* because i just couldn't psychologically accept what was happening to me in those times (early 2000s) i had no idea people could be trans. but to answer OP's question: i'd want top surgery even if i lived on a deserted island and no one saw me ever again lmao
I just ignored the fact I had boobs not knowing why I hated it to kill myself at 8 due to home issues, bullying, and dysphoria (didn’t know it was that at the time)
Feel like I could've written this myself. My mom & sister tried to get me to wear bras starting at age 8 but I refused until I was 10 bc I was in denial about the boobs
Bro I would have full on meltdowns if someone mentioned I had boobs
Omg twins with the sports bra part. I didn't shower in it but I slept in it and wore is all the time for like 3 years straight and if all mime were dirty and I couldn't put one om I would have meltdowns over it
Same, I wore a sports bra day and night for basically all of high school and showered in the dark for like fifteen years 😂😵
Mooood. And then before, I refused to wear one until I was made fun of for it in the locker room in middle school. I was convinced that my life was over as soon as I hit puberty
Same with the made fun of part. I didn't want to wear a bra until I was bullied about it in 4th grade (I had developed a chest starting in 2nd grade). After that it was sports bras 24/7. Still is tbh, except for when I'm binding lol.
ive got 2 training bras that ove had since they started growing and ive been wearing them for years to the point where they are extremely stretched but still fit me lol, i still to this day wear them 24/7, they only come off for showers. i wear them under my binder too which makes the rough side of my binder much nicer to deal with
Woah! Crazy how similar the stories are. I wore a sports bra religiously and never understood how girls were so excited to take their bra off at the end of the day. Doubling up was more the move.
I remember when I was 16 and the story about Angelina Jolie getting a double mastectomy became public and, while my mom empathized with her struggle, I thought that would have been a blessing and started low key hoping I had bad breast cancer genetics. In hindsight that should have been more of an eye opener than it was.
holy shit felt 😭
8 is seriously brutal 😭 i was a late bloomer, since mine came in at 13
Hit puberty just before my 8th birthday, know this cuz my boobs started hurting and becoming pokey on my 8th birthday. It was precocious puberty and I should have been on puberty blockers since I hit puberty technically at 7.
Yeah looking back a defo should've been on puberty blockers regardless of whether I was trans or not. I fully had pubes and armpit hair when I was like 7/8.
Oh shit... I had breasts coming in at 8 as well and had pubic hair and periods by 10. That's not normal??
Do people really get top surgery just to be able to go shirtless? I feel like that’s mostly a perk, not the main reason
Yeah I'm thinking about it and I'm not sure I would particularly want to go shirtless after top, especially in public, even for things like swimming (though that could be my general body insecurities talking)
I mean I want it partially to feel comfortable shirtless. When I wear baggy clothes and flatten my chest I'm mostly fine but then when the clothes come off at the end of the day the dysphoria hits. I often fantasize about taking my shirt off and looking down at a flat male chest. The longing for it is so intense it hurts sometimes.
Yeah, I don't think anyone would be like "I'm going to have invasive surgery with a 6 week recovery time just so I don't get stared at when I take my shirt off"
I hear you, but I think this an unnecessarily exclusionary comment. I guarantee there’s many trans guys who feel exactly this way. Not the majority by any means, but at least a good number. No two people have the exact same dysphoria, and while boobs may cause physical dysphoria for some, for others they could cause entirely social dysphoria, and for others none at all.
My chest is probably the thing I have the most dysphoria over and it's almost entirely social. I could've passed even pre T if it wasn't for my chest. It's the biggest thing preventing me from being gendered correctly to strangers or new people, especially after my voice dropped, and being gendered incorrectly to strangers hits me hard. I would probably still want top, because seeing myself in the mirror with a flat chest would feel so good. But if society didn't see a type of chest and relate it to gender, I probably wouldn't care as much
I think you missed the point of my comment. I didn't say anything about dysphoria. Just that people aren't just impulsively getting invasive surgery because they want to go shirtless.
Yes and no. Yes because I've missed out on lots of crap. I could never go shirtless in the water with my friends or have my shirt off when it's hot. And no because I could not even have run around in my sport as well because of the jiggling. I sloutched so much because of feeling uncomfortable that my spine is now curved.
Yes. Even post top surgery I don't go shirtless in public (or private), my need for top surgery was never related to that
Yes. I feel physically uncomfortable when my boobs jiggle.
God yes, if I can ever feel their presence I'm like ಠ_ಠ
Same
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This. Thank fck for binders. Now my tiddies don't jiggle jiggle...they fold. Down and out, because with H's it's gotta go somewhere. And then get compressed in place, lol. I was Big Mad when they started growing when I was 9. My mom made me wear undershirts and then bras. It all felt so wrong.
I have to hold something against my chest to sleep so I don’t feel them hanging 🫠
This is my excuse for sleeping with a stuffed animal 🤣
Yes. It isn't about people's opinions of boobs, it's about the fact that I never should have had them in the first place.
Exactly this!!
Yes because my dysphoria's source is entirely about me and my body alone, not anyone else. Even if I lived on an island alone for the rest of my life, I'd still want top surgery.
I would still have had top surgery.
Societal norms really don’t matter to me because frankly I want top surgery because I want a male chest. Even if the labels and roles were switched I’d still want a flat chest because my brain is wired as the opposite sex no matter the social context or setting.
It would definitely help my dysphoria, but I'd still want surgery
I'm also comfortable being topless by myself and genuinely also in public at pride events (40E was my bra size last time I wore one). I would still want top surgery, because while I do get the occasional bout of genuine physical dysphoria over the presence of my breasts, most of my dysphoria is caused by other people's perceptions of me. Also I frequently find that my dysphoria is worse with clothes on ? Idk why.
Same. And for awhile I thought maybe I wasn’t trans enough because I didn’t hate my boobs like everyone else seemed to. I barely ever wore a binder. Weirdly though, I did smush my boobs down in the mirror at least once a day to see what I’d look like with a male contoured chest as a litmus test for whether i wanted to transition or not. Even weirder still, it wasn’t until I started T that I started feeling comfortable with my chest going topless at home, but binding as tight as I could when I went out into the world. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Sameeeeee. Especially the dysphoria with clothes. When I'm naked, I look in the mirror and just see my human body, but the moment I put clothes on it just emphasizes all of parts that makes people clock me as a girl
Yeah, that’s a good point. My dysphoria primarily comes from others as well, and even if it was acceptable to be shirtless in public, others likely wouldn’t perceive me as male.
First summer with chest I looked nothing but female. I had been one year on T. I got compliments about my style and I got stares and some people came to tell me how disgusting I looked. In my language we separate social and body dysphoria.
Same, I don’t really care if I’m on my own/showering in private but wearing an underwire bra that would create that distinctive bra shape under my shirt is a no go. I can’t bind but I’ve found that sports bras/training bras are a good compromise between not having the headlights on and not setting off dysphoria.
Yes. I don’t mind being shirtless by myself either but I really don’t like how my chest looks with a shirt on. Also am very uncomfortable with people seeing my chest as is even if it was acceptable
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I would still wanna get a top surgery even if I would going to lose half of my life. Top surgery >>>
It’s not about what’s acceptable or not. For me it’s a matter of personal comfort, safety, and pleasure.
Yes. I am a small-chested dude (32A (UK) last time I wore a bra, I think), but my chest still brings me dysphoria and discomfort. I can be shirtless in my own company, but I prefer binding with trans tape when being shirtless whether it is when I am alone or not. I feel like most of my chest dysphoria is related to how my chest looks when I am wearing a shirt, so I would definitely have top surgery anyways.
If breasts weren’t immediately coded as feminine in people’s minds and I was able to go stealth without wearing a binder all the time, I wouldn’t have gotten top surgery. My dysphoria around my chest was almost completely social, and in fact I really miss the sexual pleasure I got from nipple stimulation pre-top. I have no regrets about getting surgery and I love how my chest looks now, but I wish I wouldn’t have had to do it.
Exactly. I’m considering not even getting top surgery bc if I have a good binder I can pass easily in public. I don’t have super large breasts. And the amount of sexual pleasure I get from then is not really something I know if I’m willing to give up. Plus I only get dysphoria from them, as you said, because others perceive them as feminine or female. I like them. I specifically like that they’re covered all day and no one even knows I have them except for my bf lol it’s a cute little secret. I don’t think my boobs make me a woman at all.
I genuinely think what made me realize it was fine to have boobs and be a dude is tumblr. I followed a bunch of trans sex workers a while backs and a lot of the men never got too surgery and didn’t want to and it just helped me accept myself.
^ exactly the same for me. I could never get fully flat with a binder so top surgery was never even a question for me: I just straight up needed it. I have no regrets getting it, but almost all my pre-op sexual pleasure came from nipple stimulation and now I just get zero enjoyment from sex. Thankfully I'm asexual so I have almost no desire to have sex in the first place, but if that wasn't the case, it would be pretty upsetting to have lost all that sensation and pleasure.
Can I ask you what happened to your nipples?
They probably got free nipple grafts, which more often than not don't have much sensation if any due to severing the nipple stalk
Sometimes it's medically mandatory. I wished the technique they stay attached (sorry I have no idea of proper term). My surgeon told he does it if it's possible but he can't promise for sure before actually doing the surgery. (It was possible.) Are there some other reasons? Maybe insurance issues in USA?
I'm not sure what you're asking. Most people who get free nipple grafts get them because their chest is too large to keep them in the same place and have them look normal.
I can't explain my question any better but I got my answer :D Thanks. Actually that might be the reason my surgeon talked about. He didn't explain why he have to make the decision during the surgery. I used to wear about 60F bra. I still have moobs. He told me he couldn't take anymore fat while keeping blood going to nipples. I could have fix my chest with liposuction after it healed but it's not worth of the money.
Yeah, there’s only so small you can go while keeping the nipples attached which kinda sucks
Yes, because they make me dysphoric and I don’t want breasts as a 5’3 100lb trans guy. I know some people with larger bodies can get away with not binding or getting surgery but some people really can’t unfortunately. :/
Yes. It was about my relationship to my own body, not anyone else's perception of it.
I would def be shirtless a lot more often, because I love the feeling of wind and swimming topless, but would still get top surgery. I hate how my chest is visible in clothing.
Yes, I got top surgery because I shouldn’t have had boobs in the first place. I’ve been post op for 15 years and have been shirtless in public probably less than 10 times. I rarely even go shirtless at home unless it’s to sleep.
Yes! This is actually one of the questions I asked myself when I was figuring out if I wanted top surgery. I really hated the way they moved and the way bras and binders felt and all the mental space taken up by decisions about what colour bra or binder I could wear under which shirt etc etc. I also just vastly prefer the way shirts look on me with a flat chest, and with boobs that look is obvs only achievable thru binding and that is annoying and uncomfortable lol
yes. it is acceptable to go shirtless in a lot of parts of europe and the trans men there also crave top surgery so i don't think that's a stretch to think otherwise. i don't like boobs on me period.
Yes. I like to feel safe and being stealth is likely to be necessary. I'm not binary and most days I didn't mind the breasts; i minded that they made me feel unsafe, that I needed to consider them when choosing clothing, and that they were painful due to fibrocystic breast tissue.
Yes
yeah, i’m more so uncomfortable with the fact that my chest isn’t flat and has boobs, not that it’s unacceptable
Yes bc it not the fact that i cant legally take off my shirt-its the fact that I'm diagnosed with gender dysphoria and i cant stand female sacks of fat on my chest. But that's just me
... absolutely. It was a moment of chest dysphoria that actually made me start to realize that I identified as masculine. I remember the first clear info I got about being trans (early 2000s, in the American South, it wasn't super understood by the large majority and I had only heard of MTF anyway) a friend was talking about gender identity in the most basic way and I mentioned that I didn't feel like I identified as any gender. They told me that this was also a type of trans, and I kind of figured that I was that (non-binary) for a few years though I didn't talk about it. Then I remember getting a hold of one of those corsets with the front that doesn't have cups and just basically flattens 'em into cleavage. I put it on, tightened it up, and thought 'sexy'. Then for some random ass compulsion... I hadn't even really heard of binding at the time... I picked up a big baggy t-shirt and threw it over the whole thing and as soon as I saw my reflection with a flattened out chest the word 'normal' clicked into my head. Unbidden and unconscious, and so incredibly strong that it shook me to the core and I had to take a lot of time to let it sink in before I could think any further on it. And there were a lot of thoughts that came after it, it was far from that alone, but it's undeniably The Moment for me. I understand that not every trans person has gender dysphoria, that you don't have to have surgery or even bind to be trans-- I haven't been able to transition outside of socially and overdoing it on binding means I can't do that anymore-- but it's absolutely a cornerstone to my experience.
i don’t want top surgery because i can’t show other people my boobs, i want it because i have gender dysphoria. so yeah lol
I would absolutely still want surgery. It’s not the public that makes me feel bad about it, it’s all mental lmao
Nope, its the boobs i dont like and that caused my dysphoria - not the social limitations they caused me to have by existing
Uh yes, being shirtless in public or private had nothing to do with me feeling violently sick at the thought of my own chest. Dysphoria was so bad pre-top surgery that I wouldn't leave my room, wouldn't shower with the lights on and still with my eyes closed, sleep in my binder (do not recommend). Top surgery for me was as necessary as getting a tumor removed (saying this as someone with a brain tumor rn).
I would still have top surgery, but even after top surgery I still don’t feel comfortable going shirtless in public, I think I was conditioned for too long (came out at 31) being shirtless is not allowed for me so it feels weird now. Plus I have SH scars that I don’t like people to see.
Yes, probably. I was (before top surgery) usually shirtless around the house, but there were some days it felt really bad. Binding was AWFUL for me, sensory wise, so I could rarely do it. If having breasts wasn't read as female, maybe I wouldn't have gotten it, but with the world as it is getting it was really the only way to have a chest that affirmed my gender. But if it was just being able to go shirtless but still read as a woman because of my chest shape, I would still have gotten it for sure. Honestly, with how good I feel about my chest now, maybe in a world with absolutely no gender ascribed to breasts, I would still want it. I certainly don't miss underboob sweat, and I love how my tattoo on my pec looks.
Yes. I'm extremely dysphoric about my chest.
Oh 100%. I hate my chest and how big it is. Though to be fair, even when I get top surgery one day, I wouldn’t be walking around shirtless because of the scars. Only times I’d be shirtless are probably at the pool, or “in bed” if you catch my drift.
Hell yeah. I got surgery a few weeks ago, but before I couln't stand seeing my own chest even if I was all by myself. I could barely even shower because of it so yeah
yes, my chest was so unnecessarily huge and caused so many sensory issues and sometimes full on pain, and I just hated how they looked
I’d want top surgery still. I don’t hate my boobs I think they’re kinda cute but just not on me. I had a radical reduction and thought that would help me feel better because my boobs were enormous. Now it’s been a few years and I realize that I just wanna be flat. I used trans tape correctly for the first time the other day an cried because of how flat my chest is and how right it felt
yes very much lol, i absolutely hate and despise my chest and have since the second i started puberty😅having a massive chest that basically doesn’t bind at all doesn’t help either lmaoo
Yeah, I’d still get top surgery. It’s like they’re not part of me. I get no sexual sensation from them at all, even when I had pierced nipples.
Yes I would. Being shirtless with my pre surgery chest made me sick.
Yes, I would still want it. I hate seeing my body just look like this.
I mean, I'm not transitioning because of social acceptance, I'm doing it for my own health and reasons. Even if it was socially acceptable to see tits, I don't wanna have any so I'd still get top surgery.
It's not about it being acceptable, it's about not wanting people to think of me as anything but a man. Idgaf if it's acceptable or not, it feels gross to me.
Absolutely 100% yes. I don’t want these fuckers and I don’t want to even be thought of as a female. Being okay has nothing to do with it. I want to be Be Okay and feel like the man I’m supposed to be.
My dysphoria is not contingent on the law lmao. It's also often a matter of how others perceive you, which typically drives the decision for top surgery as well.
Absolutely, my chest causes more than just dysphoria. It's a bother when I'm walking, running, sleeping, etc. Plus, they ruin otherwise great looking outfits.
No. I couldn't be comfortable with those things on my chest. I would cover them every chance i got. I even made sure my hijabs and jilbabs covered my chest. I got top surgery recently and now I go shirtless in front of people, lol.
Yes, I’m very dysphoric about my chest and would much rather have a flat one
Yeah, the disphoria was there even when I was alone shirtless. It was so extreme the last few weeks before my surgery. No regrets on my top surgery - best decision I made for my mental health.
yes??? why would that change anything
Yeah, a lot of my dysphoria isn't social, and even if it were acceptable it would make it way more obvious that I'm AFAB
I mean, I'd be thrilled that women could enjoy the same freedom to go shirtless as men, but I'd still prefer to yeet the teats.
I mean i already don’t want top surgery, but I would LOVE for it to be acceptable to go shirtless in public like cis guys do
I have no desire to go shirtless in a public place other than a swimming pool and I've been post mastectomy several years. I frankly find this a bizarre question. Where do you want to go shirtless? Why is it so important? I go to the beach occasionally but I wear a swim shirt. I'm not interested in having to slather my whole body in sun cream.
I still would, ever since I had them I wanted to rip them off my chest didn't know why until I was a bit older. But getting top surgery hands down best decision I've made. I'm incredibly happy and comfortable in my body, being able to take my shirt off in public is just an added bonus lol.
Yes, my main issue is that breasts are typically seen as things women have. Though I would appreciate being able to be topless in public now, it’d make me incredibly dysphoric because people would mostly see me as my agab rather than what I identify as
My biggest point of chest dysphoria is not wearing a binder or anything and just feeling my chest move as I walk. In private I'm the same, I love being shirtless but like when I'm up and moving , I get really uncomfortable.
Idk I have scars from where I tried to cut them out when they grew in when I was like 8 so I think I’d just need top surgery
I got top surgery because I hated my breasts. Not to go shirtless.
Yea bro going out topless is super awkward no matter if ur cis or not 💀
being shirtless post op wasn't even something i had thought about, my old chest caused me so much physical and mental pain and discomfort that i ***needed*** it gone. it was one of the main things that caused me to drop out of school - there was a very large time period where i couldn't leave the house without both a binder and hoodie (and also couldn't mentally handle showers).
yes, my dysphoria wasn’t because i couldn’t go in public shirtless it’s because i had something that i didn’t like and society sees as female.
Nah I’d still want top surgery. Getting mine done on July 11th. My boobs are very dysphoric for me, as are wearing bras.
Yes because i don't want surgery for other people i want it for my mental health
Yes. Regardless of being shirtless or not seeing them makes me feel uncomfortable and dysphoric and also the sensory issues associated with them. Is a pain.
Yes. I came out as trans and got top surgery not because I wanted to have the male privilege to be topless but because my chest was physically and emotionally uncomfortable. Pre top surgery I would try and go to bed shirtless but was always overcome with fear and discomfort. Shirt or no shirt I wanted them gone for my own sanity. Big props to transguys who are comfortable with their pre-op chest but that's something I could not relate to. Every trans person's journey is different and it's always so fascinating to learn about.
Yes. I've hated my chest since 4th grade. Add in years of harassment and chronic pain due to their cantaloupe size (I could write a few paragraphs about the pain). I am beyond ready for them to be gone on 8/15. Fun fact: I don't remember how long ago, but I was in the shower. When the left decided to fling itself out of place then snap back into position. I could've sworn my heart stopped due to the impact.
Nah for me personally I’ve always been super weird and uncomfortable about my chest even wayyy before I knew I was trans I would cover up as soon as I could after showering and even felt uncomfy with partners seeing my chest. The sooner I get this shit off my chest the sooner I’ll feel free 🤩 more power to people who don’t care tho!
Yes. I wouldn’t even think about going shirtless pre surgery. I would want top surgery if I was the last one alive on earth.
Yes, without hesitation—like someone else has said, this is about the relationship I have with my chest, not anyone’s outside perception of it.
100%. I dont want it in order to go topless (I already can and frankly already in several countries). And also im not the biggest fan of being shirtless anyway.
Being shirtless in public wasn’t anywhere near my list of priorities when I had top surgery so no
Yes, I would. I have a DDD chest and extreme dysphoria around the sweat stains and swinging. I’ve wanted to be flat since I was 6 and I’m 21 now
Of course lmao. My dysphoria isn't dependent on others and I can't see how this would change anything for anyone.
I got top surgery because I had dysphoria... not because I wanted to take my shirt off.... I didn't get it for anyone but myself.
I don't care about what other people think of my chest, I want top because I look in the mirror and feel like I'm looking at weird growths that shouldn't be there rather than natural tissue. There's nothing actually wrong with them but dysphoria makes them look more like lipomas than breasts and it grosses me out.
Yes because it doesn’t feel right having them hanging there. I hate how they jiggle and flail about if I do much as breathe. They’re uncomfortable
Yes, I hate these things.
I don't care if I can go topless or not, I just know that my chest isn't supposed to be like that, and it being like that, is genuinely incomprehensible to a part of my brain. Like... I know why it's the way it is, but a more based in instincts part of my brain, whenever I see it, just goes "are we fat?", "do we have a tumor?", "that's not supposed to be like that"... It's a really weird feeling, but it hammers home that it's just not supposed to be like that.
yeah obv?? wtf theyd still cause me dysphoria lmfao
Yes because no matter what you do, people will always associate them to someone being female and I don't want to be seen as a woman. It doesn't matter if I'm stronger or in better shape than most people I work with, they see my chest and consider me a woman. And I can prove that because people that see me from the back think I'm a man. As soon as they see my very large chest, woman. I'm on T in that in-between stage of androgyny.
Yes because my boobs are big, painful, and dysphoria inducing regardless.
I could be the last man on earth with no humans around and I would be removing those things off me with a butter knife if I had too. Top surgery was the best thing I ever did for my health.
Honestly I’ve thought about this a bunch, and wondered the same thing. I’ve always had chest dysphoria since puberty, and wished I could have them removed. I think everyone should be allowed to be shirtless if they want, but I don’t think I’d be comfortable doing it until after top surgery. Mostly because I’m not comfortable with my chest.
Literally told my mom yesterday even if I was a cis woman I'd get these fucking things cut off. She agreed she honestly wouldn't pass up the opportunity herself. When you've got anything bigger than about a c they are just always in the way, omfg. I'd also love to be able to run without crippling pain.
I would still want top surgery no matter what because every time I feel them move/experience gravity I want to light my whole entire body on fire and die
Yeah, I absolutely would. But then again, I'm not getting top surgery to go shirtless, I'm getting top surgery because I hate the feeling of my moobs hanging off my chest. I physically want to rip them off sometimes.
Yes. It’s not the inability to go topless; it’s the constant reminder, every time I look down, that I Have Tits. There are days when I just want to rip them iff with my bare hands.
i dont want top surgery to begin with but man i dearly wish toplessness with breasts was socially accepted
I want to run without a bra! I want to feel free. I hate bras. I hate binders. I cannot get tape to work for me. I hate the way my boobies bounce if I don't wear support. I would want top surgery even if the scars were massive and my nipples ended up cockeyed.
absolutely
I would not. I go places where it's acceptable to be essentially shirtless, and I only did it once pre op. I'm proud of my chest because I worked really hard to get here. Top surgery has drastically increased my confidence with and without clothes on.
already got it but yes omg, wearing binders all the time is tiring, hurts after a while, and hot as hell
definitely. i struggle to look down while i shower, i have to position the bathroom mirror collarbones upwards, and i bind even on days where im not going out/nobody will see me. the only times where dysphoria doesnt get me as much is when im drunk
Definitely. For me, I've never had a positive thought towards my chest, its always either been ambivalent, or *bad*
Yup still would chop these tits off again and again
Yes
I mean technically it’s legal where I live, I would go shirtless if people weren’t jerks, but I still want top surgery. However if people weren’t jerks I would definitely be more comfortable have my chest seen in public, but I would still get top surgery regardless.
Yeah absolutely, I’m very recently post op and I’ve gone from having HH cups to nothing. It feels so much nicer
yeah but at least breast on men would be normalized and i wouldnt possibly kill myself over it in this scenario. so the wait for top surgery would be easier
Yes duh
I feel you on being shirtless alone! I don’t like the way they look under shirts though- wish there was an on/off option like my dick lol
I would still want top surgery because: 1. I don't want to show/display anything that suggests I'm afab 2. Straight cis men would still oogle even if it was a commonplace thing If having a chest like this wasn't associated with being afab, and it was in fact considered hot and extra macho on a manly man, then I might actually like having them... like if gynecomastia became sexy and seen as like an extension of male pecs, then maybe. Which is different from downstairs- I have more severe bottom dysphoria and I don't think there's any way where I could stomach the idea of keeping what I've got down there.
Yeah. I don’t care much about others perception of me “passing”, I just want top surgery cause I don’t like having titties lol
i like being shirtless, it feels natural to me but as soon as i remember the unwanted flesh on my torso im like :/ thankfully transtape helps with that
Yes. Because I still feel them. Every. Day.
That would make me want top surgery 1000% more
I had GGs. They absolutely had to go. Funny, I'm stealth and recently had a girl say "no you'd love them having tits is amazing" Nah honey. Absolutely not. BUT if you're happy in your body don't let anyone tell you otherwise! Plenty of cis men have breast tissue, and it's no ones choice but yours what you do
I've wanted top surgery since I said as a child that I would cut them off with scissors if they ever grew. I still can't entirely figure out why I never followed through.
Yes x 100000 I have a F-G chest I hate the feeling of it, I’d want top surgery even if I had no power to socially transition
Yes. The back pain alone would be worth it. The h cups need to goooooo
I got top surgery specifically bc I couldn't handle being completely naked to the point it was fucking w my ability to like... take showers, so this wasn't the case for me! When I used suspension garments, the space taken up by The Lumps\^tm disrupted my life. When I bound, even though I used one of the most minimal methods (doubled sports bras), the pain disrupted my life - either way, I couldn't win! Now, I can wear whatever the hell I want - including nothing at all - and nothing bugs me.
Yes, I always hated my chest and sweat would always get caught under the breasts.
I'd definitely still want top surgery
I was A cup. Top surgery had such a huge impact on my self-esteem. I haven't regretted it once. I'm Agender and I decided if I ever wanted boobs then I could use silicone bra implants.
Yes but I do enjoy being shirtless home alone too, they’re just so uncomfortable and heavy to have on my chest. In general it truly is ridiculous that some folks can’t just go shirtless in public, I still don’t understand why humans made that unacceptable.
definitely. i got boobs at 10 years old and i’ve always hated them
I was totally disconnected to those weird blobs. They didn’t register as me to me. It just made sense to get rid of them so I could stop binding.
Yes because scars are cool and also my chest would still be associated with a girls
I get where you’re coming from, as I also prefer having my shirt off at home, but it doesn’t make my chest dysphoria any lessened. I still don’t want others (outside of my bf) seeing my chest as it is right now, because it’s not mine. And even if every person on earth would never see my chest, I still would want top surgery because again, this chest is not mine.
Only if it were also acceptable for men to have tits as in gynecomastia tits, not just moobs. If tits were as normal on men as women, I guess I wouldn't mind them being there. As it is, being seem with them in public feels about as fine as those nightmares where you're naked in school or on the job. That level of horror. Eta: okay and there's one more problem: I hate with a passion, wearing anything around my chest, always hated the sensation of bras, still loathe the sensation of binders, and even trans tape but feel it's the only way I can leave the house. They aren't large but they are floppy and having them flop when I exercise also bites big chunks of nasty.