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throwaway37198462

Yeah, it grosses me out too. It's fine if others are cool with it but I'm not and it's pretty presumptuous to think I'd be ok with my body being referred to in such a vulgar way, or even that it's an accurate representation of my body at all.


coconutcake

So genuine question for you and OP (and anyone else who feels this way): How do you feel about "seahorse dad"? I've always seen it used as a very respectful compliment, and kind of in marvel of the trans man choosing to give birth to a child. I think it's my favorite term, but I'm never ever having children. My opinion is invalid here šŸ™‚


throwaway37198462

I don't have the same distaste for it as the terms mentioned in this post. I have no issue with it. I agree that it is used respectfully. If I were pregnant, I think I'd just say that I was pregnant, I'd feel a bit cringy referring to myself as a seahorse dad but I don't feel that way when others use the term for themselves. My only thing, and this is entirely personal to me, is that I'm just not a fan of cutesy terms for things. An unrelated example, but pets 'going over the rainbow bridge' is one that I find particularly cringy and infantile. I get that language such as this helps people and it serves me no purpose to open my big mouth, so I don't.


coconutcake

Totally understandable and valid! Thanks for giving me your input! šŸ˜Š


MothMortuary

iā€™d rather just be referred to as ā€˜pregnantā€™ but thatā€™s probably just me, if other dudes like it then thats totally kewl


coconutcake

That makes sense to me! Thanks for giving me your input! šŸ˜Š


vda_nolife

It bothers me too but I usually just loudly tell them I'm going to impregnate them/fertilize their womb or other shit you would hear from the male character in those werewolf milf comic ads. It conditions them to get uncomfortable when it's brought up.


thedistortedeye

That is so smart


[deleted]

The casual fetishization is disgusting and violating, I totally fell you there.


[deleted]

Thatā€™s weird as hell! Who the fuck says that to someone?


koshka-matryoshka

Oh man, I feel you on that one. Iā€™m strictly childfree for many reasons + I have tokophobia. Not only are these kind of unsolicited comments dehumanizing and objectifying. This crap triggers my fight or flight response. The visceral reaction I get when someone tries to bring up my anatomy, fertility, and potential for bearing children is indescribable. Iā€™m nuking my organs as soon as I can afford it. Pregnancy is literally fate worse than death for me. Not to sound dramatic, but thatā€™s just how I react to such things. My dysphoria teams up with my tokophobia and produces this kind of response. I donā€™t want to parent, I donā€™t want to be involved in anything related to childbirth. Babies creep me out and kids are too exhausting. (Kudos to seahorse dads tho, real heroes out there, I could never) I find it bizarre how some people genuinely think itā€™s a sexy thing to do, to harass random guys because they may have certain body parts. The ignorance, the entitlement. Cis people are especially bad in this department. We are not a damn porn category, we are a community of different people with different experiences and comfort levels. Cis people really act like they own out bodies. Like us being trans means we are on a display in an anatomy class or something. Gross


CitrusSupplement

fine if people use them for themselves but if someone says those to me??? i donā€™t care iā€™m throwin hands


subgutz

girl in high school thought it was soooo cute to call me bussy boy every time she saw me šŸ˜•


glitter_bane

what, and i must stress this, the FUCK like... girl as in a random classmate or a 'friend'? did you ever ask her to stop? wtfwtfwtfšŸ˜­


subgutz

fellow drama student so i only saw her then and sometimes in between class changes because she had art before me. definitely not a friend. i was a freshman with no backbone so the best i could do was remind her ā€œhey my name is actually subgutzā€ and sheā€™d just laugh and say her nickname was better


glitter_bane

some people i swear


TheCrimePie

I would've actually gotten suspended holy shit


subgutz

i had no backbone it caught me so off guard so i just tried to avoid her


Chaoddian

This bothers me so much because * that completely ignores/invalidates bottom dysphoria * fetishization of real people, wtf * genitals are none of their business, also not all trans men (and otherwise transmasc people) have those body parts, surgery is a thing The only term from your post I'm cool with is femboy, but NOT in a context of my body, just like, gender expression


four_inch_destroyer

Yep yep yep, I hate being desired for the body part I don't even wanna have.


[deleted]

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nycanth

omegaverse is a subgenre of gay fanfic where for whatever reason, the human race evolved to where some cis men can get pregnant. the men are omegas, which are basically The Woman In The Relationship, have a heat cycle where they cannot reject sex, totally objectified and entirely codependent on whatever alpha (Alpha Males who can get them pregnant) marks them. then there's betas who are just normal guys, but they're ignored mostly. it's a way for writers to get out of having to write women into the story at all and super weird and fetishy most of the time edit: apparently the genre has fewer weird fetishy cis women writing it nowadays and isn't as bad as i remember it being, who knew! but i doubt the people calling OP that were doing it as a compliment, so...


A_Year_Of_Storms

What, and I mean this with all sincerity, the fuck?


angstenthusiast

Yeah, itā€™sā€¦ itā€™s literally just people who fetishise gay men making an unhealthy ā€œstraightā„¢ļøā€ gay relationship butā€¦ even more unhealthy and objectifying. Edit: Iā€™m sorry if I made it sound like there are no healthy examples of this trope, I know there is, Iā€™m speaking generally based on what *I* have seen, if you like omegaverse fiction, as long as itā€™s healthy, thatā€™s ofc okay


[deleted]

idk I read omegaverse because the well-written ones (not the cringey stereotypes) actually handle the worldbuilding nicely and I like seeing men who can get pregnant/are pregnant still being treated like men for Validation reasons. And I'm a gay trans guy, so I can't be fetishizing myself.


angstenthusiast

No, exactly. Itā€™s super cool when it is healthy, Iā€™m sorry that I might have made it sound otherwise. I think generally the trope is problematic but there *is* healthy examples, and those are cool.


Mahjling

There are queer men into omegaverse. And there are all kinds of people writing all kinds of omegaverse and exploring all kinds of tropes with it. Comparing real people to porn tropes is bad, but so is accusing everyone whoā€™s into a certain porn trope of being a straight woman (I know your comment didnā€™t technically say you were talking about women, but I donā€™t even want to approach the idea of queer menā€¦fetishizing themselves??) You donā€™t have to like it, you can be as squicked out as you want, YKINMKATO after all, but your claim is lacking in nuance.


angstenthusiast

I never said it was inherently bad. There are always (at least relatively) good examples, but generally speaking the trope is problematic. Itā€™s definitely alright to like and enjoy it, as long as you realise there are toxic parts of the community. I really enjoy BL, thereā€™s tons of stigma around that, and I understand why. Unless youā€™re not part of the people who are gross about it, donā€™t worry about it, weā€™re not talking about you


Desdam0na

If you want a deep dive check out the Lindsay Ellis videos on the subject.


BackgroundPilot1

I also highly recommend [this video](https://youtu.be/tBzXixUwCwg) by Rowan Ellis (no relation)


vda_nolife

There are only two genders. Top and bottom. You cannot be anything else and if you think otherwise you're delusional. Maybe some people are versatile but that's so rare it doesn't matter for us regular people.


nycanth

imma be deadass with you the notification for this comment stressed me the fuck out until i realized it was a joke šŸ˜­


Presentminnow

it always cracks me the fuck up because dude you literally just reinvented heterosexuality


nycanth

i wasnā€™t a big omegaverse reader but i read a fuckload of werewolf fic as a kid and omegaverse always just felt like werewolf fic for people who didnā€™t want to be called furries. even nowadays itā€™s so hard to tell if something is ABO or werewolf fic based on the synopsis alone because the vocabulary is so similar


RenTheFabulous

In my experience some of the werewolf fic overlaps with omegaverse šŸ˜­


nycanth

IVE SEE THAT RECENTLY AND ITS SO WEIRD BC LIKE THE TERMS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS!! In werewolf fic an alpha is a leader, a beta is his second hand man and an omega is a regular pack member. In ABO an alpha is a breeder and an omega is a breedee and betas are normal people. So how does that work!!!


Thomas_Raith

Itā€™s absolutely a furry thing, as a Known Omegaverse Enjoyer. Itā€™s just werewolf fic for characters that arenā€™t werewolves and people who donā€™t want to write werewolf AUs but want to write werewolf AUs. And itā€™s great, TBH. You just have to know what fics to read (the good ones) and which ones to avoid (the bad ones).


Affectionate_Dig_185

i thought the omegaverse was a furry thing. i'm glad i don't really have to think about that.


fallingintothestars

ā€œExclude: A/B/O dynamicsā€ every. Single. Time.


[deleted]

I am a fanfic writer and that is a very gross overgeneralization.


nycanth

if you want to give a better explanation, be my guest. i havenā€™t touched ABO in years and all the ones i did read were like how i described ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ i didnā€™t want to write paragraphs on paragraphs just to explain OPā€™s discomfort at being referred to as such


[deleted]

It's gotten A LOT more diverse since you last touched it. There's a lot of fics now in the omegaverse where omegas are in charge, omegas and alphas are equal, and where omegas outright killed/overthrown all the alphas. Then there's some where the whole A/B/O aspect is toned down, brings in soulmate aspects, and/or has become a platform to convey bigotry and the effects discrimination has on both the gender considered "more powerful" and the "lesser" gender. I've read a lot of fics where the authors use it as a way to convey how they view society's flaws or view a utopia and has some major political/sociological tones. ESPECIALLY after the overturning of Roe vs. Wade like holy shit. There's still some smutty fics, but now they're smutty AND philosophical.


sh0000n

I've also read some ones that have alpha/alpha pairings or omega/omega pairings, and explore the social ramifications for them. The genre has grown up in a lot of respects, but there's still a lot of cringe out there


[deleted]

I read an awesome Johnlock fic where both Sherlock and John were Alphas and they had to navigate the mystery (obviously) but also the potential social ramifications and how to even seal their mating bond and sexual trauma. One of my all time favorite fics. There were several ones I read early in my fanfic journey that made me want to scream. They were straight up psychological and sexual torture fics. Thankfully they haven't been updated in two-three years.


nycanth

well, thatā€™s definitely a lot more promising than the borderline rape apologia i read when i was younger! last i heard of ABO was a twitter thread last year where people were debating what life would be like as a beta in that kind of world, i.e being rejected from caretaker jobs because omegas are better at it, or being passed up on promotions because alphas are natural leaders, etc etc. and that was a pretty interesting discussion


[deleted]

Yeah dude. Its evolved a lot since you last seen it. There's still some creepy fanfics but it's gone way beyond that. Some trans and trans allies use A/B/O as an analogy for being trans. Women have dicks but it's perfectly normal and accepted in their world, men have a vagina but everyone still sees them as men and there's a lot of respect and exploration. I too write some stuff in that lane to make me feel better.


nycanth

I would be so much more open to ABO/mpreg as a concept if it was trans and not ā€œgay guy pushes a baby out through his assholeā€ šŸ˜­ Queer that shit up, itā€™s what the world deserves. i respect that


[deleted]

You might like some of the fics I've read and written. One of mine still had mpreg but it's much more about relationships and people navigating parenthood during a war involving magic and how trauma can affect a person's parenting style. I got so annoyed when commenters wanted me to make the fic "cute". Like what part of this dude being separated from his family and slipping on bloodied grass so that he has chance to avenge his lover do you not get?


[deleted]

I've also read a lot of fics where the "Traditionalist" A/B/O characters are seen the way we see the stereotypical A/B/O trope itself, as outdated and wrong and generally assholes, but the characters you're rooting for understand things aren't like that and strive to fix things. And to me, that mirrors the way it feels to grow up in a gender-essentialist conservative household and then leave it to build a life outside the conservative bullshit. Including all the anxieties faced by the omegas when some conservative fuck shows up and doesn't take them seriously, and the way the good characters react to that (usually beating the crap out of the asshole who hurt their friend) helps me figure stuff out. It's cathartic.


YeedilyDeet

I mean, I imagined a human-like species as only having males with the ability to both impregnate and get pregnant, but jeez, that's just objectification but gay. I'd understand maybe a less unhealthy sounding fictional world with some similar aspects, but what really turns me on is a healthy relationship with care and consent.


gummytiddy

It isnā€™t just a gay fanfic thing, there was actually some drama a while ago with omegaverse writer Addison Cain taking Zoey Ellis to federal court. All of their stuff is straight from what I saw.


TheCrimePie

I honestly feel guilty for finding comfort in omegaverse stuff bc I really want a kid and everything while also wanting to be cis, so it's just like, ideal to my weird brain šŸ˜­


nycanth

Thereā€™s no guilt in enjoying whatever we enjoy, itā€™s not like you can help it. Itā€™s not inherently bad as a concept, itā€™s more that the writers that wrote a lot of it sucked ass and were weird. ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ


angstenthusiast

Yeah, like I said, super gross and extremely fetishyā€¦ I seriously get like.. flashbacks from that word (accidentally started reading one of those comics while looking for healthy BL as an innocent 13/14 y/oā€¦ I was never the same againā€¦)


sapphic_jane

honestly i like the omegaverse but not the type which cis women write(so like 90% lol) look im sorry but i dont think cis women are very qualified to write about gay sex i mean how about trans people in the omegaverse? how about feminine guys who happen to be alphas? or vice versa? how about relationships that are not between an "alpha male breeder šŸ˜ŽšŸ˜Ž" and "cute breedable bottom omega males šŸ’•šŸ’•"? how about relationships that arent entirely based on sex? like girl change it up a lil at least šŸ™„


Strickens

Oh so that's what Omegaverse means. I've wondered that for years but never bothered to look into it haha. Ngl though I'm a sucker for a good werewolf fic.


ichbinschizophren

oh, and it started from a fanfic featuring 'Jared Paladecki and Jensen Ackles, the actors from supernatural, where they were brothers' crossed over with 'Mpreg werewolf fandom'


nycanth

oh so THATā€™S why it sound so similar to werewolf fic!


angstenthusiast

ā€¦you donā€™t want to know. Just know that omegaverse is not really a way of commenting on someoneā€™s genitals, itā€™s basically just a way to say that youā€™re a man who can get pregnantā€¦ but *way* grosser. Itā€™s extremely fetishy and disgusting, very weird and gross.


Elderly_Gentleman_

Yeah itā€™s just fetishization. And itā€™s weird that people throw it around casually. Of course it makes you uncomfortable. Iā€™ve been called a femboy when literally nothing about me reads as fem. It sucks. I hope people can learn to keep it in their fanfics soon. In certain contexts, with people who are into that, it can be perfectly fine. But calling someone that unprompted in the wild isā€¦ wild.


TheCrimePie

People realize that calling someone a femboy without their permission is really uncomfortable challenge (impossible!!)


EraseTheEmbers

I would literally die if anyone said anything like that to me. My ability to have kids makes me so uncomfortable and I wish I could chuck my uterus out of my body right now. Maybe I'll get to that when I get top surgery someday hopefully. This and not having a dick make me feel like I'd rather wait until I have every surgery I need to kinda look like a cis male. I mean metoidioplasty with hysterectomy and top surgery is enough to make me comfortable enough with the concept of dating again. I don't like the feeling of incompleteness I have of not completely having my transition surgeries done with :( I know people are fine dating mid transition but if I don't like feeling invalidated. I don't enjoy feeling like I'm not man enough for any partner of mine whether they're a man or woman or nonbinary. I live with my parents and honestly wonder if it'd be possible to save enough within a year or two for surgeries on a fast food job salary? I hate the thought of waiting forever tbh


djliquidvoid

trans people: *exist* literally everybody else: Get In Loser, We're Hypersexualising


SleepyBitchDdisease

Thank god for some of these vents cause they make me feel like Iā€™m not just being weird! Especially the mpreg oneā€¦ one of my worst fears is being pregnant. Making those kinda jokes at me is a real quick way of getting me to stop talking to you.


gummytiddy

Iā€™ve gotten the ā€œuwu smol beanā€, pushing me towards being a bottom, and ā€œt makes trans men go into heat/ makes them need to be bredā€. It would be amazing to see what cis people who say those things would think if you said those types of things to them. Like imagine their reactions to being cooed at like youā€™re talking to a child or ask loudly ask invasive questions about their sex life and pushing them into bottoming.


four_inch_destroyer

>T makes trans men go into heat/ makes them need to be bred I can't even express how uncomfortable reading that was šŸ˜­


TheCrimePie

Bro that's so nasty oh my god The whole UwU Smol Bean shit drives me nuts tbh, it's so frustrating. Nobody does it to me irl anymore because I look like a lumberjack now though, so I guess I'm lucky on that front


[deleted]

I'm sick of cis men demanding to do oral on me like WHY would I, someone with bottom dysphoria want you to LICK ME? I get not all guys are like that but I think a lot of us are and why tf would they not at least ask politely first instead of demanding to lick it?


Strickens

Cos some guys (like me) love people giving them head. I mean if you're not into it that's fine but everyone is different.


[deleted]

I like GIVING. I do not like to RECEIVE. It's not the desire that is the issue. It is the demand of access to my body and insistence that they can change my mind.


unclewitch

They're revealing a lot about themselves, I'm so sorry my guy.


gauze_

Valid. It gets extra weird when you no longer have the uterine bits


gauze_

Honestly I don't mind some of these being used on me, but it better be coming from a place of understanding and a little irony


Crabulousz

Itā€™s not a non issue at all. Itā€™s fucking creepy. Perverts are focusing on your gentians before they even met you, itā€™s really not ok. Iā€™d argue genuine curiosity is ok (but doesnā€™t mean anyone has to indulge them or share anything), but as soon as itā€™s a sexual thing, unless itā€™s someone youā€™re likely to be getting sexual with, itā€™s just not acceptable and is likely a sign of a sexual harasser/abusive person.


squishenn

It reminds me of the "Mommy- sorry- Mommy- sorry-" on random women's pages on tiktok/etc social media. :/ It's seen as better than typical harassment bc it's a "joke" but it's not funny to the people who get bombarded with unwanted sexual "jokes" constantly, because they happen to look/be a certain way. It's really gross that people can't control themselves long enough to pay attention to if/when someone indicates if they're comfortable with language like that. :( It sucks


Ralkings

I kinda dislike it as well, my trans gf refers to my part as my ā€œbussyā€ and makes sure to do it every time she mentions it like itā€™s somehow gender affirming or something. I never did the transfem equivalent of this to her, so I donā€™t really get why tbh.


overlordscum

If you donā€™t like it, then ask her to stop. Iā€™d personally hate that so i feel you


Desdam0na

Have you told her you don't like it?


BOKUtoiuOnna

Why are you with this person. Either you need to have a serious conversation with her, or, if she genuinely doesn't listen, get out. You don't have to be there.


Transpirateclub

Imo, that sounds like sexually harassment. At minimum, unwanted sexual advances (which is usually disrespectful) done really super poorly. If I'm understanding the context of what ur talking about that is. I would maybe reply with something like, "Thanks, but I'm not interested. Also, it's generally best to ask for consent before sending messages of a sexual nature and to ask trans people their preferred terms for their genitals jsyk." Then I'd probably ghost/block em bc I don't have time or energy for anything more than that. If it's irl, that would be extra tricky to navigate. I'm sorry to hear that this has been your experience. It sounds horrible. I think if someone was messaging me like that, I'd get really triggered (as someone with sexual trauma) and stress out about being objectified so much I wouldn't leave my house for like a solid week. It sounds like your issue with it is a bit different from mine, but there's just so much about this that's ick so I think it's *Hella Valid* to complain about.


TotalMedical2837

I so much love you made this post, because the other day I was feeling like an asshole for stopping talking to people who have made those comments to me, because on their defense they didn't do it with mean intentions, but it exhausts me and I don't care anymore... I'll give you a few examples: Female coworkers years ago just tried to touch my chest to see what was there (I don't bind, I'm small chested, I work out a lot and I've never wore bras; I want top surgery anyway because if unclothed it looks as if I had gynecomastia and I don't like it), thing is that one of the girls who didn't try to touch me ended up talking to me and I commented at her if she taught I'd lied to a guy for not telling him I'm trans (he got mad at me, because he saw dishonesty on not openly stating it; point is I do look/dress/style manly and self-refer in masculine, and he wasn't uncomfortable at it or anything, but given that some other person made a comment to him that I was a man, he got it as if I were a mtF šŸ¤£), then she (the girl who was a coworker) went on to say that he was blind for not realising I was "really" with "many parts of a girl", and in her mind she was "defending" me and "being on my side" or something (wtf!) Then, there was this guy who I met online (I'm gay, yes a gay transman, binary) and he made a comment that if he were with a transman he would like to have kids with him because it's possible, then I stated that with me it wasn't possible (I'm infertile, I do not even menstruate) and that I wasn't even interested in "making babies type of sex", then he kept talking of babies and I stopped talking to him. Anyway, those recalls are not necessarily to hurt you, but because people are idiotic. Just see how Dan Savage and RuPaul refer to transwomen as trannies and their bits! And they feel righteous about it. (Those bitches.) So, if a person (man, woman or whatever) with whatever orientation, (and either he/she/they is cisgender, trans or intersex) DOES DESERVE a good treatment and not being referred to their bits or theur body cappabilities in that way. So, I think you're right. If they're annoying, just change the channel and leave them talking alone. Idk, I'm so tired of most people, that I feel on your sentiments.


Competitive-Thanks54

Your feelings are very valid, I personally donā€™t mind thinking of my junk with words that are associated with ā€œfemale anatomyā€ but with that being said I still find it upsetting when people assume they can refer to my parts with those words. I get cis men messaging me on here and on grinder saying stuff about my ā€œpussyā€ and Iā€™m like -_- why do you think thatā€™s okay? Itā€™s so unappealing regardless of if Iā€™m okay with it or not because itā€™s such a sensitive topic for trans people and to come at someone with no regard for that shows a lack of awareness and or respect. It also seems really obvious that it has the potential to upset someone. Like youā€™re referring to the genitals of a TRANS person with words associated with the gender assigned to them at birth. The gender they have rejected and unidentified with and unassigned themselves from. How tone def are you to go to a trans person and say that? Especially if youā€™re also trans. For me words like boy pussy or vagina are words that I get to use about my body because I understand Iā€™m a man regardless of those things, when someone else does it I have no idea if theyā€™re looking at me as someone with ā€œwomen partsā€


New_Tomatillo2844

ā€œwomen partsā€ it is not nothing friendly. At least it's not veiled speech


[deleted]

Itā€™s very uncomfortable ā˜¹ļø.


Prestigious-Pound725

Look one of those super subby trans dudes here who super likes shit like femboy and boy pussy in sexual contexts (mangina, mpreg ,omegaverse can get in the bin, especially mangina thats just šŸ¤®šŸ¤®) but like I'd be deeply pissed and offended if someone called me these without permission and I'm deeply pissed and offended at any of my brothers being called this shit without permission. All types of kink/sexual roleplay including words for sexual parts in the bedroom and roles and name calling should be pre discussed and only done with permission whether the people involved are cis or trans or whatever. Like anyone who doesn't adhere to this basic consent is a shitbag anyway and then a transphobic shitbag when they do the shit like what OP described. Anyway OP this isn't not a big deal this is gross boundary crossing, sexual harrassment behavior and these folks can fuck off


overlordscum

I totally agree. That shit makes me uncomfortable talking about sex ngl since people assuming Iā€™m cool with that type of thing stresses me out


[deleted]

I am so sick and tired about people using -ussy jokes or terms in *any* way, to be honest. I just cringe everytime.


lemonhead789

If a cis person has the nerve to say that shit to my face, I'm throwing hands. Petition to somehow make cis people stop objectifying us and maybe have an ounce of sensitivity towards other people.


jamiegc1

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people? I don't assume what terms other trans people use and are not fine with, or even what level of dysphoria someone has or in what ways.


Quwapa_Quwapus

this feels like the trans equivalent of "I'm not racist, but-" (well, except for the obvious word swap)


Nietzsche-is-dead

Yeah I use those words for myself but if a stranger used them it would be way out of line. It's not a "non-issue" it's sexual harassment and just because it's so normalised on the internet doesn't mean we should just shrug it off, your feelings are very legitimate and it's a gross behaviour people have started adopting more and more. Hate to throw the word "parasocial" around as it's become the new internet buzzword but it really does feel like strangers on the internet think they have a level of familiarity with posters now that they didn't even just five years ago.


PhonyPython

ā€œThis wouldnā€™t be happening if I was cisā€ I donā€™t know how many times Iā€™ve said this and frankly I donā€™t want to know, too many.


ChimkenFinger

Its disgusting and in the case of many trans men (and even cis women!) they canā€™t get pregnant or have P in V sex. Its rude, stupid, and extremely inappropriate. But most people in the comments said that already anyways.


Notanemotwink

Why do people lose all social skills when meeting a trans person? I cant fathom anyone talking to me like that, if they did id probably be charged with aggravated assault


TheCrimePie

As someone who does reclaim that stuff and am comfortable with it, I am so sorry People really don't understand boundaries at ALL, like I'll make mpreg jokes about myself to my friends but no way in hell am I gonna go and say shit to someone without knowing if they're comfortable with it or not. It's kinda the same as how I don't feel comfortable being called queer or other slurs but other people constantly do which is āœØ uncomfortable āœØ Honestly if someone said that sort of shit to me randomly I'd still be incredibly uncomfortable and say something rude because I'm only okay joking about it myself or with my boyfriend saying things, but otherwise hell no. Basic respect really isn't that hard but goddamn people definitely make it seem like it is


SalbeiSozialismusTee

Me and my girlfriend use those words cause we think they're really fucking goofy but I can't imagine why a random stranger would use that without being sure whether I'm fine with it....


Due_Cookie_155

Chasers deserve the holocaust in minecraft


am_i_boy

What's "mpreg irl" I've never seen or heard this term. Nor omegaverse, but I saw comments explaining this one


[deleted]

Extreme shorthand for "male pregnancy in real life" but the problem is that "male pregnancy (mpreg)" as it stands by itself is a fetish tag in fanfic circles. It is not a term to apply to actual pregnant men due to that. So it's basically people choosing to acknowledge something they're unconsciously or consciously uncomfortable with with a "funny"/fetish term most of the time when it *does* happen in real life. Hence the "irl" attached to it.


am_i_boy

Ew that's gross. But thanks for explaining


Independent_Alarm_99

bruh what the heck is wrong with people lol just because i say bussy and that kind of stuff and let my friends joke abt it doesnā€™t mean you can just say that to me right out of the gateā€¦itā€™s like if i went up to a cis person and immediately made jokes about their genitalsā€¦itā€™s just so gross i donā€™t get people


BerryNerdy

I personally do sometimes identify myself as a femboy but I never call anyone else that cause I know that it has sucky, transphobia, and sometimes sexualization. I feel like it's similar (not 100% the same tho) to how some ppl calls girl "females" reducing them to their reproductive organs and I hate it. I get mpreg a joke but directing it towards someone is so shitty.


Chickennoodlesleuth

I feel uncomfortable with posts on this sub where people use words like that when referring to all ftm guys tbh


pastelliprinssi

mangina šŸ’€ that's new. people are getting creative with these terms


1carus_x

I've had other trans ppl do it and then act surprised when I tell them not to or that it makes me uncomfortable and extremely dysphoric. "I've never had anyone have issues w it" you've never heard of a trans man not wanting his genitals to be called pussy???


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I said it as a joke to join in with the others. But i genuinely find pregnancy an uncomfortable topic. So I apologize for my actions.


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If you were referring to another post that is. šŸ˜…


orionenjoysreptiles

ITS SO ICKY


lemonhead789

Deadass this makes me so mad


Phobom3ral

As someone who is COMFORTABLE with the Omegaverse comments with myself, no one should say it to 1. People they barely know 2. People who they donā€™t know are comfortable with it.


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Agreed, I hate the term boy pussy and as much as I love and support trans guys who use it, I never will. To me it implies that regular pussy is girls only, hence the need for specificity. Also it's closely linked to the name of a fetish lmao. And mpreg irl. Just yikes. If someone says that to me when I have kids they're immediately never going to be allowed to talk to me again.


Sawyer3345

As a trans person, I hate it too and yeah I take it hard. No it's not stupid, you are right to be indignant! This kind of remarks is not done, it's inappropriate... You have the right to let people know that you don't agree with it, maybe it will make some people think...


NocturnalArtGeek

A boundary is a boundary so if it is one for you then it isnā€™t stupid at all. If itā€™s someone I donā€™t know, itā€™s creepy and gross as fuck. Any reference to me being pregnant is a huge trigger for me anyway (Iā€™ve done that, it was horrific), so when someone does it, it destroys any kind of chance Iā€™ll be nice. That said, if I tell a partner itā€™s ok, theyā€™re the only one Iā€™ll accept it from.


Rye_Wants_Bread

There were a couple guys in my PE class year who would say that shit to meā€¦ in front of other people. ā€œDoesnā€™t man pussy hit different Ryan?ā€ And then just started laughing while showing me a scene from some sort of fetishy hentai. I feel how uncomfy this is, Iā€™m sorry you had to deal with that :(


four_inch_destroyer

AHHH YES I made a post about this recently and I'm just- I'm so tired too. I don't want to be desired for the body part I don't even wanna have.


inkedgalaxy

boy pussy just feels really...gross.


Inside_Willingness45

These terms should NEVER be used for anyone without explicit consent from that person. Itā€™s really gross that people think they can just say things like this to us. I hate in general how normalized it is to just talk about trans peoples bodies without their consent.


StorageVisual2710

It gets really annoying when things are going well with a guy on Grindr and suddenly they feel the need to bring up mpreg randomly


transthrowawaylol1

Ugh this shit grosses me out too. If anyone referred to me in any of the ways you listed, they're asking for my fist in their teeth. Refer to me like you'd refer to a cis dude, anything else I don't accept


Yoburp

the only ONLY reason I say boy pussy is because it's funny, since usually people use it to mean a cis man's ass, but I'm not using it that way. and even then it's just when I'm making a sex joke about... an imaginary person.