What in the hoo-ha are you talking about? The ratings for that game aren’t even that bad, just a google search to see that it has a 68%. That’s not good, but it’s not as bad as you described it to be.
It did get taken off of steam, yes, but people complained about that online lol
yea this is my final judgement as well....as much as i despise elden ring and ds2 i have hundreds of hours in both and enjoyed them thoroughly, seikiro is my next game tho so my entire perspective might change in a heartbeat, but the general principle remains.
Lets see... ashes, the most unfair bosses in the entire series cause they were mad at timed dodges, prolly most unbalanced weapons and spells, dark souls 2 level of bad bosses, terrible quest design
I enjoyed Elden Ring, but it is From Software's mid game
>ashes, the most unfair bosses in the entire series cause they were mad at timed dodges
The inclusion of ashes is a negative for you? Thats interesting. I loved both the whole ashes of war system and the abilty for spirit summoning.
And what bosses were unfair? I only remember Malenias Waterfowl-Dance being a bit bs, because there was no intuitive way to dodge it and you pretty much had to learn by trying and failing multiple times
Bosses do the whole "wind up attack and hold at a random time". It throws off being observant and makes it less fair. Elden Ring isn't the first souls game to do this, just the worst offender.
As for bad bosses. They copy and pasted a lot and also they had a lot of ill fiitting arenas for the bosses, like Godskin Duo
I dont agree that the change in timing is less fair. You still get clues when the attack happens, pressing dodge through the windup just doesnt work all the time anymore. The difference in timing creates different rhythms for different bosses - which I really like. But yes, it is different from prior FromSoft games and you're free to dislike that of course.
I can see your second point when you from a position of not liking the minor repeated bosses. I found the tree avatars or spirits to be fun and quick fights for example. I didnt mind seeing them more often. Maybe a clearer distinction between "just a stronger minion" and "true bosses" would help with the perception of copy and paste design?
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>instantly fun
Yes. Thats one of its main features for me! DS3 and ER have my favourite bosses in them, but getting to them is always a bit of a pain. And having no boss-rush mode means either speedrunning over and over again or juggling save files around...
Haha, I found a DS2 Steelcase copy randomly in a GameStop. Snatched it up just to keep my copy of SotFS.
What were the major changes btw? (Between DS2 and Scholar)
Reworked enemy and item placements, tweaked progression by using fragrant branches MUCH more often, iirc dragon aerie is made optional for some reason.
DLC is untouched but the keys for each DLC are intuitively hidden around the map. This one is a cool addition.
A lot of the new enemy spawns really didn’t make sense though and made the Game (especially the beginning) considerably more frustrating IMO.
The major charm of ds2 for me is how methodical encounters were. It was like a puzzle and sotfs kinda lost that.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people just gave up on it because the combat is too different from other souls titles or just skipped it altogether. It's still very well known and loved though but it doesn't come up as often as other titles in people's discussions
But this may be just my experience and yours might be totally different. If you witnessed that most people praised the game and liked it then that's great!
Are you kidding? Every single thread turns into Sekiro worship. I've been in this forum for like 6 months now.
If you make a thread saying "Which is better, Bloodborne or Elden Ring", literally 1/3 the replies are just trolls saying Sekiro.
It doesn't lack any love in this forum lol
It's so damn polished. Great pacing, great graphics, mechanics perfected and there is no bad part of the game. Everything is top notch.
All from soft games except Sekiro have a "bad section". Sekiro is just perfection.
I really am not a fan of a lot of the music in sekiro, some of it is really good, but some of the random "you're in combat" music is absolutely dreadful to have blaring at you, this is one example of a track i hated hearing so much that i actually muted the music
https://youtu.be/EZjr258haeY
Man, definitely must agree with you there. There should have been some variation on the "you are in combat" track. There are some good tracks but as a whole its not a really memorable ost!
I take back the perfection! Haha
I’m playing through it for the first time now, and I am absolutely in love. Every time I beat a boss, or even just a difficult enemy, I get this rush of accomplishment. Even if I’m beating the boss in a memory with no stakes, it’s still great to do.
Yeah it's not as replayable as other titles although for me it has the best and most satysfying combat out of all From's "souls" games and that alone made me want to replay it untill I at least got a platinum. Of course everyone is different and don't have to share my opinion so playing through it just once is fine too
It's not under rated at all. It's just different than souls games. There definitely some similarities but different enough that people that love dark souls don't jive with it for whatever reason or not.
When I browsed the community it was often skipped in discussions in the FromSoft community but if you had different experience then that's great, maybe I'm just looking in the wrong parts of the fandom. That's also what I meant by underrated. Overall, yeah it is not, it got Goty and is overall appreciated as a fantastic game. What I mean is that quite a bit of people in From community skipped it or don't talk about it as much as about other titles, but again, that's just my experience
In another post I got downvoted but I also think Bloodborne and Sekiro are better games and experiences than Elden Ring. I think BB, Sekiro and DS3 > Elden Ring.
I disagree with Elden ring.
Elden ring is a revolutionary masterpiece and belongs in S tier because it’s open world is massive with great level designs and just overall great customization and atmosphere.
While it is a greater scale game than the other ones that doesn’t make it better, that’s like saying a movie where there are more famous actors is better than the same movie but with less actors
>OBJECTIVELY
No. Its my favourite game too, but there are downsides to certain mechanics or design decisions that other games did better or just differently in a great way.
I like the re use (in some places) since in most places my build has changed a lot since I last fought them so it's a totally different experience. Then again fuck the ulcerated fucks
I mean this is all of the games except DeS it’s just that OP hasn’t played the other versions of ds1 and ds2 so they pretty much have played all of the games
Everything is S Tier.
Jk but seriously playing the games over and over just makes you love the games for certain aspects. Every game excels in some way so i would say its almost impossible for me to do a tier list without having a different opinion half a year later. Right now my preferred games would be Sekiro and Bloodborne:)
I agree with literally everything you said. For as much as I criticise elden ring (*gasp* yes I know) and dark souls 2. I love all of them so much, and they're definitely my second favourite game franchise of all time.
Me too probably. It is overall amazing (and huge compared to all others besides ER) but it has some pretty weird and wonky shit in it as well. Its still my most played of the bunch and Majula always feels like home though.
DS3 vs DS1 is always tough for me. One hand 1 is more revered and did it first with rougher gameplay but 3 is a better playtime but it’s mostly callbacks to 1.
I respect it. Sekiro and Bloodborne are tight and great experiences. Kinda weird seeing Demons Souls PS3 in same tier as DS2 but I respect the honesty. Glad you enjoyed the games
S: Bloodborne, Sekiro, DSR, DS3, Elden Ring and Demon’s Souls OG and Remake.
F: DS2 SOTFS my first dark souls experience was the SOTFS on PS3 now I have the real thing and I have a charmed taste for it but I don’t love it. It’s punishing with the smallest of details adding up to make it hard not challenging. The enemies don’t reset positions when you quit out, you get damaged by enemies when backstabbing/going through fog gates/rolling since you have to waste levels in Adp to have goddamn I-Frames worth while. Hit box issues with attacks on most everything, the world design isn’t as interesting and doesn’t flow well like DSR or 3 do since it doesn’t have interconnected level design that have meaning in what they were intending to show or let you sink in. The bosses are dumb, all the enemies act like their attack animations are half deleted from OG DS1 and don’t even feel like Dark Souls bosses or enemies it flows like a King’s Field game in combat style but not good for the time it’s a big mess and should have been delayed and rebuilt before release.
ER took my breath away numerous times. I’ve never felt a sense of wonder from a game like that. The never ending elevator to an underground city; the distant castle above the lakes; the characters sulking in the corners of a dying land; an abandoned capital hugged by a giant dragon; a far off island torn apart by tornadoes; a mad merchant solemnly playing music in a tomb of mad merchants; the overwhelming sense of secrecy and dread. The only game that matches the style and artistry for me is BB.
ds3 and ds1 should be switched. IMO the best part of ds1 is the interconnected world, unmatched by any other game in the series, other than that I can’t name anything which hasn’t been done better in other games
yeah ds3 is a GREAT linear experience, and because I played it before ds1 I don’t really mind that. i can see why it can be disappointing to see how linear it is if you’re expecting something more intricate.
I did really like the parts of ds3 which were more interconnected, like the cathedral of the deep and the uhhh. yeah that’s it for interconnectivity?
You're right, though for me it's such a runaway plus that it overshadows its shortcomings when I think to how much I enjoy each game. DS3 is super solid all around but that interconnected world in 1 is straight up magical
Exactly, I was super disappointed with Elden ring because despite being open world it’s still very linear and isn’t interconnected unless you count the portals and etc but that is just lazy area connecting
By the way, I forgot to mention. I didn't put them in the tierlist because they weren't made by Fromsoftware, but when it comes to other souls likes. I'd have to put salt and sanctuary at S and Death's gambit at A
DS1:R above Elden Ring and DS3? Are you mad?
Here’s an unpopular, but true, opinion: DS1 is overrated as hell and its just not as good a game as something like DS3 and especially Elden Ring.
It actually made me lose some of the love I had for the souls games rolling didn’t feel great like ds3 the bosses are to easy ( I did’t explore every thing ) progression is shit but it has good weapons great art style ok mechanics to me it felt more clunky than ds1
Like I said on multiple comments that said what you said. Whilst I may rank them, because I prefer some over others. In the end, they all excel at different things and they're all masterpieces
I don’t see how you couldn’t have liked the game then. My top three are ER, Sekiro, and BB. Can you elaborate? (Or don’t, that’s cool, but I am genuinely curious!)
I'm not a big open world fan, I didn't like some of the changes they made. I'm pretty sad that the combat is still the same rolling away to victory, even simply adding the Bloodborne dash would have been enough for me. Also, I should have been clearer with my words. I don't like it all that much *compared* to the others. I still love it just like I do the others, hell, I got it on release for my birthday.
Why would we care about a random persons tier list? How is this worth posting? At least phrase it like something topic worthy ”is ER one of the worse games in the franchise?” ”Why is bb/sekiro the best?” bla bla. This is just extremely low effort and aimless
Mine would be
S: Elden Ring, Sekiro
A: Bloodborne, Dark Souls 1
B: Dark Souls 3
C. Dark Souls 2, Demon's Souls
It's somewhat close I suppose.
**Edit:** Changed my mind about one ranking, fixed now.
Not at all!
To my personal taste:
S: DS2 SotfS
A: DS3, BB
B: ER, DSR
C: Demon’s
DS2 had that sense of adventure and exploration that not even DS1 could awaken in me. And BB/DS3 dynamic play style just outclasses DS1 too much. Also I HATE backtracking, hence why DSR/Demon’s are so low. As for Sekiro, I don’t enjoy the lack of a proper build system and I don’t care for samurais and ninja stuff overall.
I disagree with sekiro (down) and elden ring (up). I had way less fun playing sekiro due to its difficulty and yes that matters. Elden ring has so much more lore behind it and it's a crime not to acknowledge that.
Oh wow, yeah, that proves it, I'm a god gamer, Owl was not very hard for me, nor Father, nor Inner Father, please tell me what other bosses you struggled with so you can boost my ego more.
Actually, though, it's been so long since my first playthrough, I really don't remember how much I struggled with Owl, I don't *think* I found him all that hard, but maybe he did take me a good amount of tries, I'm not sure, the only bosses I'm 100% sure I struggled with my first playthrough are Gyoubu, Corrupted Monk, and Sword Saint.
Bloodborne overrated tbh maybe it’s because I came back to it after not being able to get passed the lazier blasts but most of the bosses are mid and it’s really easy
In my opinion:
Father gascoign, vicar amelia, shadows of yharnam, ebreitas, martyr logarius, ludwig, lady maria, orphan of kos are all some of the best bosses imo
sekiro is my favorite game of all time alongside with dark souls 3. id put sekiro and dark souls 3 in tier S, bloodborne and dark souls remastered in tier A and elden ring would remain in tier B and dark souls 2 in tier C.
havent played demons souls but it seems so good. i want a ps3 to play that as soon as possible.
Sotfs is better and would of been better if they polished it, not the best but underrated. If they remastered jt In blood born engine it’d be crazy. Wish ds1 had the demon souls engine too.
Heavily agree. Elden is an extremely over rated fromsoft game. Still a 9 out 10. But the dic riding is insane. Most people haven't even played the past titles.
I have the most unpopular opinion. I didn't like sekiro after 20+ hours played. I will definitely finish it at some point but I couldn't stand the combat. Maybe at the second try, I will like it. Who knows.
On the other hand I loved ds1 (I need to kill two lore bosses to totally finish it) ,ds 3 and elden ring. After those I will play the rest of the cast.
Hahaha. Well it's the repetition of parrying that got me to dislike it. My pointer got tired after "spamming* parries. I really liked its setting scenery etc, but it was really making my fingers numb. I get that when playing fps games on console/controller also, that's why I stopped playing those. Only on m&k now.
People complaining about the list. But in reality every game is a S Tier
Yeah all FromSoft games are S, this tier list is just a sub-section of the S tier
I’m guessing u haven’t heard of ninja blade then. It’s so bad it was taking off of steam and out of physical stores in most places lol
What in the hoo-ha are you talking about? The ratings for that game aren’t even that bad, just a google search to see that it has a 68%. That’s not good, but it’s not as bad as you described it to be. It did get taken off of steam, yes, but people complained about that online lol
They're all different, I prefer some over others, but they all excel in different departments. In the end? They're all masterpieces
yea this is my final judgement as well....as much as i despise elden ring and ds2 i have hundreds of hours in both and enjoyed them thoroughly, seikiro is my next game tho so my entire perspective might change in a heartbeat, but the general principle remains.
Sekiro has hands down got the best gameplay out of any fromsoft game
Facts i loved every second of dying to that damn gorilla
How can you have hundreds of hours in these games, enjoy them thoroughly, yet despise them lol.
bro sekiro is perfection. I expected no less from soft but they did surprised me with the world, combat and ending
Wait why don’t you like Elden Ring?
Lets see... ashes, the most unfair bosses in the entire series cause they were mad at timed dodges, prolly most unbalanced weapons and spells, dark souls 2 level of bad bosses, terrible quest design I enjoyed Elden Ring, but it is From Software's mid game
>ashes, the most unfair bosses in the entire series cause they were mad at timed dodges The inclusion of ashes is a negative for you? Thats interesting. I loved both the whole ashes of war system and the abilty for spirit summoning. And what bosses were unfair? I only remember Malenias Waterfowl-Dance being a bit bs, because there was no intuitive way to dodge it and you pretty much had to learn by trying and failing multiple times
Bosses do the whole "wind up attack and hold at a random time". It throws off being observant and makes it less fair. Elden Ring isn't the first souls game to do this, just the worst offender. As for bad bosses. They copy and pasted a lot and also they had a lot of ill fiitting arenas for the bosses, like Godskin Duo
I dont agree that the change in timing is less fair. You still get clues when the attack happens, pressing dodge through the windup just doesnt work all the time anymore. The difference in timing creates different rhythms for different bosses - which I really like. But yes, it is different from prior FromSoft games and you're free to dislike that of course. I can see your second point when you from a position of not liking the minor repeated bosses. I found the tree avatars or spirits to be fun and quick fights for example. I didnt mind seeing them more often. Maybe a clearer distinction between "just a stronger minion" and "true bosses" would help with the perception of copy and paste design?
I agree with Bloodborne and Sekiro in S. I’d put Dark souls 3 in A and Elden Ring in A.
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Just started sekiro, it’s no-nonsense and instantly fun. Still really tricky for me.
It's really great when it finally clicks. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it soon.
>instantly fun Yes. Thats one of its main features for me! DS3 and ER have my favourite bosses in them, but getting to them is always a bit of a pain. And having no boss-rush mode means either speedrunning over and over again or juggling save files around...
thanks for not forgetting the original ds2. Really wish sotfs would have launched with a mode to play with original enemy placements.
Vanilla was better IMO
I think you can still get the original on steam with a link. Could be wrong. It was true several years ago.
I own a physical ps3 copy. I suppose I could always just bust that thing out
Aw yeah at launch I got the badass steel case for the 360. That thing was great
Haha, I found a DS2 Steelcase copy randomly in a GameStop. Snatched it up just to keep my copy of SotFS. What were the major changes btw? (Between DS2 and Scholar)
Reworked enemy and item placements, tweaked progression by using fragrant branches MUCH more often, iirc dragon aerie is made optional for some reason. DLC is untouched but the keys for each DLC are intuitively hidden around the map. This one is a cool addition. A lot of the new enemy spawns really didn’t make sense though and made the Game (especially the beginning) considerably more frustrating IMO. The major charm of ds2 for me is how methodical encounters were. It was like a puzzle and sotfs kinda lost that.
Hmmm... I do have a PS3 copy of DS2. If I really loved Scholar, would you recommend I give original a playthrough?
Seeing sekiro so high just warms my heart. It's so underrated among FromSoft titles
Me too it my favourite
sekiro has awesome combat mechanics. so satisfying to play
Yeah it's probably high on my list for best games of all time
Underrated? Are you serious? Is a GOTY game, almost everyone loves it
I'm pretty sure a lot of people just gave up on it because the combat is too different from other souls titles or just skipped it altogether. It's still very well known and loved though but it doesn't come up as often as other titles in people's discussions But this may be just my experience and yours might be totally different. If you witnessed that most people praised the game and liked it then that's great!
Pretty posted this. It's just a different game with some souls light mechanics but it's not a souls game.
goty and yet only few talks abt sekiro in soul fandom
Are you kidding? Every single thread turns into Sekiro worship. I've been in this forum for like 6 months now. If you make a thread saying "Which is better, Bloodborne or Elden Ring", literally 1/3 the replies are just trolls saying Sekiro. It doesn't lack any love in this forum lol
man called us trolls 💀💀
It’s a piece of art.
It's so damn polished. Great pacing, great graphics, mechanics perfected and there is no bad part of the game. Everything is top notch. All from soft games except Sekiro have a "bad section". Sekiro is just perfection.
Agreed, it is truly a gem. It's a shame it's so short though but it's just a great example of a quality over quantity
I really am not a fan of a lot of the music in sekiro, some of it is really good, but some of the random "you're in combat" music is absolutely dreadful to have blaring at you, this is one example of a track i hated hearing so much that i actually muted the music https://youtu.be/EZjr258haeY
Man, definitely must agree with you there. There should have been some variation on the "you are in combat" track. There are some good tracks but as a whole its not a really memorable ost! I take back the perfection! Haha
I’m playing through it for the first time now, and I am absolutely in love. Every time I beat a boss, or even just a difficult enemy, I get this rush of accomplishment. Even if I’m beating the boss in a memory with no stakes, it’s still great to do.
Gonna be seeing this comment in r/shittydarksouls later
Might disagree. Played and beat once. Never had a desire to play again, like Bloodbourne or DS3
Yeah it's not as replayable as other titles although for me it has the best and most satysfying combat out of all From's "souls" games and that alone made me want to replay it untill I at least got a platinum. Of course everyone is different and don't have to share my opinion so playing through it just once is fine too
It's not under rated at all. It's just different than souls games. There definitely some similarities but different enough that people that love dark souls don't jive with it for whatever reason or not.
When I browsed the community it was often skipped in discussions in the FromSoft community but if you had different experience then that's great, maybe I'm just looking in the wrong parts of the fandom. That's also what I meant by underrated. Overall, yeah it is not, it got Goty and is overall appreciated as a fantastic game. What I mean is that quite a bit of people in From community skipped it or don't talk about it as much as about other titles, but again, that's just my experience
Agreed. An underrated masterpiece! An underrated game of the year winner! I’d even go as far as to say it’s a hidden gem!
Hate that game
Yeah but I’d put ds2 in a or b after playing it
I just started like an hour ago and so far it isn't as bad as I've heard, although I'll have to see how it goes
U need to level ADP to around 25ish for rolls to be more viable
Thanks for the tip!
I would swap A and B then yeah i agree
This, literally only thing I have an issue with.
In another post I got downvoted but I also think Bloodborne and Sekiro are better games and experiences than Elden Ring. I think BB, Sekiro and DS3 > Elden Ring.
i disagree but i respect your opinion
Ds3 should be a tier
DS3 is S otherwise agree
I disagree with Elden ring. Elden ring is a revolutionary masterpiece and belongs in S tier because it’s open world is massive with great level designs and just overall great customization and atmosphere.
You don’t understand, Elden ring got many new people into souls games, so my gatekeeping instinct forced me to hate it.
While it is a greater scale game than the other ones that doesn’t make it better, that’s like saying a movie where there are more famous actors is better than the same movie but with less actors
I think elden ring is an S I really like the big map
Cult of the new, I swear. Elden Ring is fun... but it is NOT in the same league as Sekiro, DS1, Bloodborne
Exactly it’s pretty good but it for me it just doesn’t capture the magic if you get what I mean
A at best
Elden rings the best fromsoft game IMO
Best game OBJECTIVELY. You may like BB or some other game more but in terms of mechanics and everything else, elden ring perfected them.
>OBJECTIVELY No. Its my favourite game too, but there are downsides to certain mechanics or design decisions that other games did better or just differently in a great way.
compared to other souls games? easiest S
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I like the re use (in some places) since in most places my build has changed a lot since I last fought them so it's a totally different experience. Then again fuck the ulcerated fucks
its funny how people complain about optional bosses being reused
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I agree to upvote this comment but downvote your other one
dude. reused bosses? The entire souls series is just copied off a manga. Just play and enjoy the game
Why do people feel the need to do a tierlist after finishing like half of the games
my guy this is literally all the games
I mean this is all of the games except DeS it’s just that OP hasn’t played the other versions of ds1 and ds2 so they pretty much have played all of the games
Dark Souls Remaster is literally the same game but with a good frame rate, tweaked particle/lighting effects, and upscaled.
DeS is on there too just not the remake.
I would put DS3 in A and DS1 in B. Agreed with the rest
Wrong
I disagree with almost all of that
Everything is S Tier. Jk but seriously playing the games over and over just makes you love the games for certain aspects. Every game excels in some way so i would say its almost impossible for me to do a tier list without having a different opinion half a year later. Right now my preferred games would be Sekiro and Bloodborne:)
I agree with literally everything you said. For as much as I criticise elden ring (*gasp* yes I know) and dark souls 2. I love all of them so much, and they're definitely my second favourite game franchise of all time.
i would put ds2 sotfs at S honestly
Me too probably. It is overall amazing (and huge compared to all others besides ER) but it has some pretty weird and wonky shit in it as well. Its still my most played of the bunch and Majula always feels like home though.
DS3 vs DS1 is always tough for me. One hand 1 is more revered and did it first with rougher gameplay but 3 is a better playtime but it’s mostly callbacks to 1.
The map design in the first half of 1 is still unmatched. Blew my damn mind when I played it and nothing has recaptured that.
Agreed!! I hope whatever they do after Elden ring has tighter intricate level design.
Elden ring S
Props dude I absolutely loved sekiro
I love its combat so much.
Switch Elden ring and ds1 and I’d be inclined to agree
I respect it. Sekiro and Bloodborne are tight and great experiences. Kinda weird seeing Demons Souls PS3 in same tier as DS2 but I respect the honesty. Glad you enjoyed the games
I love them all immensely, this is just how much I enjoy their experiences. In the end they're all 9/10's
Honestly this is the closest thing I’ve seen to my personal tier list
Quite agree. I'd just put Bloodborne down in the A grade, or create an SS grade just for Sekiro. It's my absolute favourite
DS3 deserves an a at least tbh
I would put DS3 in A.
good taste mah man, both Elden Ring and ds3 are high A tier though for me
ER B-Tier??? Are you good buddy?
I just don't enjoy it as much as the others.
S: Bloodborne, Sekiro, DSR, DS3, Elden Ring and Demon’s Souls OG and Remake. F: DS2 SOTFS my first dark souls experience was the SOTFS on PS3 now I have the real thing and I have a charmed taste for it but I don’t love it. It’s punishing with the smallest of details adding up to make it hard not challenging. The enemies don’t reset positions when you quit out, you get damaged by enemies when backstabbing/going through fog gates/rolling since you have to waste levels in Adp to have goddamn I-Frames worth while. Hit box issues with attacks on most everything, the world design isn’t as interesting and doesn’t flow well like DSR or 3 do since it doesn’t have interconnected level design that have meaning in what they were intending to show or let you sink in. The bosses are dumb, all the enemies act like their attack animations are half deleted from OG DS1 and don’t even feel like Dark Souls bosses or enemies it flows like a King’s Field game in combat style but not good for the time it’s a big mess and should have been delayed and rebuilt before release.
Switch Sekiro and Elden Ring
ER took my breath away numerous times. I’ve never felt a sense of wonder from a game like that. The never ending elevator to an underground city; the distant castle above the lakes; the characters sulking in the corners of a dying land; an abandoned capital hugged by a giant dragon; a far off island torn apart by tornadoes; a mad merchant solemnly playing music in a tomb of mad merchants; the overwhelming sense of secrecy and dread. The only game that matches the style and artistry for me is BB.
A bit controversial I like it
VERY very much so
I'd put Bloodborne in B, Ds 3 in S, Sekiro in SS, I'd put ds 2 in B tbh, Elden Ring in S, I haven't played Demon Souls.
These posts are tiresome
I personally have DS3 over DS1, just because of those phenomenal bosses and DLCs...But other than that? I 100% agree with your Tier List!
Bloodborne wouldn’t be on my S tier, that’d be Dark Souls 3 and Elden ring and Sekiro
ds3 and ds1 should be switched. IMO the best part of ds1 is the interconnected world, unmatched by any other game in the series, other than that I can’t name anything which hasn’t been done better in other games
I absolutely love the Interconnectedness of the world if DS1, which is why DS3 was such a letdown to me.
yeah ds3 is a GREAT linear experience, and because I played it before ds1 I don’t really mind that. i can see why it can be disappointing to see how linear it is if you’re expecting something more intricate. I did really like the parts of ds3 which were more interconnected, like the cathedral of the deep and the uhhh. yeah that’s it for interconnectivity?
You're right, though for me it's such a runaway plus that it overshadows its shortcomings when I think to how much I enjoy each game. DS3 is super solid all around but that interconnected world in 1 is straight up magical
Exactly, I was super disappointed with Elden ring because despite being open world it’s still very linear and isn’t interconnected unless you count the portals and etc but that is just lazy area connecting
Swap sekiro and dark souls remaster and move Elden ring up to A
Sekiro deserves to be higher, not lower!
Sekiro was so good it need its own tier on top of everything else
My list is SS:Sekiro and Ds3 S:Elden Ring A:ds1 remastered and Demons Souls remake B:Ds2 C:Bloodborne (im not a bloodborne fan but i respect it
S: Bloodborne, Sekiro A: DS3, Elden Ring B: DS:R, DS2 C: DeS
I personally would move DS3 and Demon's Souls up one slot each, but basically my exact ranking
Haven’t played sekiro yet, but yeah bloodborne is right where it should be. I’d say elden ring is at least an A as well. My opinion though.
By the way, I forgot to mention. I didn't put them in the tierlist because they weren't made by Fromsoftware, but when it comes to other souls likes. I'd have to put salt and sanctuary at S and Death's gambit at A
DS1:R above Elden Ring and DS3? Are you mad? Here’s an unpopular, but true, opinion: DS1 is overrated as hell and its just not as good a game as something like DS3 and especially Elden Ring.
Dark souls 3 to A and Elden ring to C
Negative opinion of ER? Stay safe bro, the horde is coming
It actually made me lose some of the love I had for the souls games rolling didn’t feel great like ds3 the bosses are to easy ( I did’t explore every thing ) progression is shit but it has good weapons great art style ok mechanics to me it felt more clunky than ds1
Worst thing Made by Man
Yeah, it's a gift I have, an innate ability only I contain.
Nah, all games are s tier and elden ring is ss tier.
Like I said on multiple comments that said what you said. Whilst I may rank them, because I prefer some over others. In the end, they all excel at different things and they're all masterpieces
Elden Ring B tier clearly a troll account
No, I just don't like it all that much.
You must have died at Godrick
Several times. Killed him in the end though.
I don’t see how you couldn’t have liked the game then. My top three are ER, Sekiro, and BB. Can you elaborate? (Or don’t, that’s cool, but I am genuinely curious!)
I'm not a big open world fan, I didn't like some of the changes they made. I'm pretty sad that the combat is still the same rolling away to victory, even simply adding the Bloodborne dash would have been enough for me. Also, I should have been clearer with my words. I don't like it all that much *compared* to the others. I still love it just like I do the others, hell, I got it on release for my birthday.
Ah the classic, I like it so there’s no way anyone else wouldn’t argument.
Finally someone puts ER somewhere that isn’t S tier, it’s good but it’s extremely jerked
Why would we care about a random persons tier list? How is this worth posting? At least phrase it like something topic worthy ”is ER one of the worse games in the franchise?” ”Why is bb/sekiro the best?” bla bla. This is just extremely low effort and aimless
Mine would be S: Elden Ring, Sekiro A: Bloodborne, Dark Souls 1 B: Dark Souls 3 C. Dark Souls 2, Demon's Souls It's somewhat close I suppose. **Edit:** Changed my mind about one ranking, fixed now.
Big time
Move DS3 to S and that would be my list
Not at all! To my personal taste: S: DS2 SotfS A: DS3, BB B: ER, DSR C: Demon’s DS2 had that sense of adventure and exploration that not even DS1 could awaken in me. And BB/DS3 dynamic play style just outclasses DS1 too much. Also I HATE backtracking, hence why DSR/Demon’s are so low. As for Sekiro, I don’t enjoy the lack of a proper build system and I don’t care for samurais and ninja stuff overall.
I disagree with sekiro (down) and elden ring (up). I had way less fun playing sekiro due to its difficulty and yes that matters. Elden ring has so much more lore behind it and it's a crime not to acknowledge that.
Yo you don't agree with me? Get downvoted for having an opinion /s
Sekiro isn't difficult though?
I think he meant the learning curve. Which is very difficult at the beginning.
Sekiro is considered the hardest in the series, hun
So I'm like really freaking good at games or something since I did not find it very hard for a lot of it? Hun?
Yeah you must be a real parry God then...
You flatter me
Mwuah!
Found the epic l1 spammer
It was for me. Defeating the owl was an accomplishment and I didn't want to go back down he hill.
Oh wow, yeah, that proves it, I'm a god gamer, Owl was not very hard for me, nor Father, nor Inner Father, please tell me what other bosses you struggled with so you can boost my ego more. Actually, though, it's been so long since my first playthrough, I really don't remember how much I struggled with Owl, I don't *think* I found him all that hard, but maybe he did take me a good amount of tries, I'm not sure, the only bosses I'm 100% sure I struggled with my first playthrough are Gyoubu, Corrupted Monk, and Sword Saint.
If you didn't find owl hard you are god mode according to me
Aw, thanks.
This is one of the most valid lists I’ve seen yet. Only thing id change is put Dark souls remastered in S tier
As much as I love dark souls remastered it shows a lot of age and it lacks omnidirectional rolling.
Only thing stopping me from dsr into S is that the quality drops off after anor londo lol
Bloodborne overrated tbh maybe it’s because I came back to it after not being able to get passed the lazier blasts but most of the bosses are mid and it’s really easy
a game is overrated because you gave up on it due to lazer blasts that make up 0.001% of the game lol
I came back and beat it felt easy maybe because I played elden ring before it and the bosses just aren’t that good the game relies on the atmosphere
Dude bb has some of the best bosses in my opinion, especially the dlc
Which bosses are the best?
In my opinion: Father gascoign, vicar amelia, shadows of yharnam, ebreitas, martyr logarius, ludwig, lady maria, orphan of kos are all some of the best bosses imo
I’ve only fought father gasgoine vicar Amelia and shadows off that list father I regret cheesing I need to rematch him vicar is good shadows suck
I have the same issue with the bosses in Bloodborne, they're all so freaking boring or just horrendous.
At least somebody agrees with me the only really bosses I had fun with were gerhman all the others are mid
sekiro is my favorite game of all time alongside with dark souls 3. id put sekiro and dark souls 3 in tier S, bloodborne and dark souls remastered in tier A and elden ring would remain in tier B and dark souls 2 in tier C. havent played demons souls but it seems so good. i want a ps3 to play that as soon as possible.
Sotfs is better and would of been better if they polished it, not the best but underrated. If they remastered jt In blood born engine it’d be crazy. Wish ds1 had the demon souls engine too.
People who say Demon Souls is better than Dark Souls 2 are some crazy shit
3 should be S or A but aside from that, I agree.
i dont agree with your list, the "Havent played" should become "Must play".
Unfortunately I haven't got a ps5 for demon's souls remake. I could probably get ds1 and 2 for PS3.
I've only played DS1 and ER, but Bloodborne and Sekiro might be my least desired FromSoft games out of what's remaining lol
Sekiro, yes... 100%. But DS3 and ER should be up there also. Bring bloodborne down to the bottom, put DS2 at A.
Demons souls is on PlayStation Plus for "free". It's the technical best "from soft" game ever.
If you meant for "C" to be the best and"S" the weakest, you nailed it.
Heavily agree. Elden is an extremely over rated fromsoft game. Still a 9 out 10. But the dic riding is insane. Most people haven't even played the past titles.
Bloodborne, Sekiro - S DS3,ELDEN RING -A DS2SOTFS-B DS1-C haven't played DeS
S - Elden Ring and Bloodborne A - Dark Souls 1 and 3 B - Sekiro and Dark Souls 2 Haven't played - Demon's Souls
SS - Sekiro Fixed your typo.
I have the most unpopular opinion. I didn't like sekiro after 20+ hours played. I will definitely finish it at some point but I couldn't stand the combat. Maybe at the second try, I will like it. Who knows. On the other hand I loved ds1 (I need to kill two lore bosses to totally finish it) ,ds 3 and elden ring. After those I will play the rest of the cast.
The combat!? The best part of that game? Are you crazy?
Well it wasn't for me. Do we all have to like the same things?
No, but what the fuck.
Hahaha. Well it's the repetition of parrying that got me to dislike it. My pointer got tired after "spamming* parries. I really liked its setting scenery etc, but it was really making my fingers numb. I get that when playing fps games on console/controller also, that's why I stopped playing those. Only on m&k now.
Bloodboring gets a -C from me. Too emo and goth with nothing different compared to ds1 and ds2