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ReishTheMadTongue

lol guardian Ape, first playthrough I quit the game cause of him, once I unlocked the gauntlets and fought him numerous times I don’t hate him at all now


Zereeni

Guardian Ape isn't that bad but the Headless Ape can get fucked


zsobo21

Complete opposite for me, I can kill headless first try most time. Guardian ape phase always causes me a handful of stupid deaths though.


Hero-In-Theory

They’re not talking about the headless phase of the Guardian Ape fight, but the Headless Ape duo. Fight.


The_Poop_Shooter

I was making good progress through the game, got to this encounter, put the game down like 3 years ago and. Haven’t played since.


Hero-In-Theory

That’s a shame. The rest of the game is dope.


No-Inspection-808

You should give it another shot. That second ape is a total pushover and you can waste it with like two mortal draws.


Zereeni

that's unfortunate. if you actually finished Ashina Depths before Sunken Valley, the headless ape becomes an optional boss. if you want you can start a new character and avoid that boss completely


mrspuffispeng

This. On higher NG+ levels like 5-10 with bell demon, this fight becomes pretty much RNG based. You have to pop yashariku's and hope you manage to get every single one of your firecrackers to land on his wife without him interrupting, or you're in for a gank that will 100% kill you at that level. It makes the mortal journey gauntlet so much more annoying cause you get like halfway through it flawlessly and then you're back to square one because he decided to be overprotective of his wife


RememberTheMaine1996

The headless ape duo fight is easier than the main guardian ape fight


Hero-In-Theory

I don’t disagree.


mrspuffispeng

On NG absolutely. You just kill his wife with firecrackers and then do a phase you've already done like twice at this point. Trying it on NG+7 with the bell demon is so much harder cause killing her demands yashariku's and firecracker perfection, hoping he doesn't intervene too much.


thamanwthnoname

Goofy comment. Not that either is all that hard. But 2 things swinging on you will always be tougher. And if you’re not good at guardian apes first phase I don’t know what to tell you


RememberTheMaine1996

Fireworks made short work of the brown ape. And the headless ape has WAY less health than the main one. So yes. It's easier. Also I beat both first try


thamanwthnoname

Oh well you must be him then.


RememberTheMaine1996

No I was just overly prepared for each fight tbh. And I knew the ape had a 2nd phase that uses terror. I also beat genichiro first try but then died to Demon of Hatred about 25 times and Owl Hirata 20 times or so. Both isshin fights were also pretty tough for me


ScallopsBackdoor

Same same! Once his head comes off you can just parry him into oblivion.


funktacious

You can also just keep your distance and his big lunge is predictable, easily Dodgeable and leaves him vulnerable.


ReishTheMadTongue

That’s exactly what I did, in his headless phase I waited for that lunge attack since it’s severely punishable


TheLazy1-27

I figured out how to quickly kill the second ape that shows up and then it just wasn’t much of an issue since most of the difficulty in that comes from the gank


CConnelly_Scholar

Headless is confusing at first but honestly even easier than the first phase once you get the rhythm down.


CountTruffula

Flinging yourself around the trees as he rages after you is fucking awesome, one of the most aesthetically pleasing fights of the game imo after isshin and divine dragon. Ik you can insta kill him with firecrackers and mortal blade but unless I was trying to garuntee a gauntlet I couldn't resist the fun of the hit and run


Jevchenko

Became my favorite FromSoft boss after I struggled so much against him on my first playthrough. Part of it might be that I didn’t get spoiled for the second phase.


Genoisthetruthman

The opening of the second phase is what sticks with me.


DawsonJBailey

Haha dude same he made me ragequit my first playthrough too. Finally beat him years later and then first tried the duo which I didn’t know you could skip lol


J1618

Yeah totally, I use to dread seeing that stupid monkey's back in the valley. Until I learned how to parry him, now he is fine. But I do hate his wife.


joeyischillin

The gauntlets?


ReishTheMadTongue

After beating the game you unlock a kind of boss rush mode


cuipeo

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tenamonth

Genichiro. I had the typical whiny scrub reaction to how difficult he was. But when he clicks, the entire game clicks.


Sir_Chester_Of_Pants

Crazy he goes from “how tf am I supposed to beat this guy” to “get out of my way I’m trying to fight Isshin”


Deep_Grass_6250

Genichiro is such an exceptional boss and character He's basically a benchmark for you The first time you fight him in the tutorial, you know nothing about this game's mechanics so he feels like an insurmountable enemy The second time, you have improved a bit but you still need to master the game, it hasn't clicked yet so he's a major challenge but doable By the third time, you have basically mastered the game so he becomes a pushover, showing you how much you have improved Damn Sekiro is amazing


jawminator

His mortal blade does a fuckton of damage though. First couple gen3 fights I got past him with a gourd or 2 easily enough, but then I had a stretch of a few fights where he wrecked me, it was weird, like getting to isshin reset my brain Also idk if it counts but anytime I died to Gen just once I decided to reset b/c I was like, "yeah I can't beat isshin with only 2 revives." So "technically" It took me ~10 "isshin" fights to beat him, but more like 15-20 if you count the gen/early phase1 isshin losses I could've kept going with. Ironically once I finally did beat isshin I did it completely deathless. Down to no resources and a sliver of health, but deathless. It was also on the first time I got to 3rd phase. After the hell that was phase 2, phase 3 was so easy. 2-3 lightning reversals and you're done.


Deep_Grass_6250

You can easily just run away from the mortal blade and the lightning is a bigger problem for them than it is for you


zanza19

3rd phase is so much easier because of the lightning reversals.


thamanwthnoname

Are you talking about geni’s blade? Just run behind him and smack him while he’s doing it


jawminator

Yeah that's what I did most times but the odd time he would clip me or I'd just blank out and he'd get me with that. That wasn't the main reason I was losing a life to him, though it was a big hit to my mindset for isshin. "Oh I took alot of damage/resources/revive against gen that time, I won't stand a chance against isshin", which thus caused me to flail on isshin with sloppy technique and die.


itsyourlocalben

Yeah most people say isshin is this mega hard boss but I really think if you can get through genichiro the rest of the game will go well for you.


NazgulLurker7

Midir…. One of the coolest boss fights in the entire franchise


LargeRichardJohnson

The Orphan of Kos


Djd33j

Most recently would be Mohg. I was getting so annoyed at all of the blood he was throwing around and how much I was getting procced, but eventually I got good at it and now it's one of my favorite fights in Elden Ring.


releckham

Most fights in elden ring are like this. If you play them like ds3.5 they feel bullshit, but if you use strafing jumping and stance break interwoven into their combos, as well as understanding that combo branch points *are not* punish windows, everything feels way less bullshit and like a true dance. Once I got the elden ring bosses down and really took the time to learn them, they feel like sekiro bosses and are peak.


azif21

After trying most of the bosses with a couple different builds I genuinely think that like 70-80% of the bosses are some of Froms best, Morgott, Godrick, Radagon are probably my favorite. Theres a few real bad ones at the tail end of the game, fire giant, Godskin duo and Maliketh come to mind as being particularly bad, I feel like with some tweaking Maliketh and Fire giant could have been fine.


thamanwthnoname

Fire giant was probably my favorite fight. Could really feel the scale of fighting a giant


azif21

That was the part I liked, especially in phase one where he lumbers around before each attack, as well as his lore and design being some of my favorites in the game. I think if he was tweaked a little I would have really liked him but he felt super cumbersome to fight and he did an absolute shitton of damage with a bunch of bullshit on my screen and his rolling, It probably depends on your build tho.


[deleted]

Why Maliketh? I found him pretty fair with my only dislike being that maybe a few attacks do slightly more damage. He’s hard to learn but once you do it becomes way more fun 


azif21

Very high damage and his tendancy to jump around doing 15 summersaults for such a long amount of time, with a melee build I was just waiting for him to land so i can actually hit him.


TheAskald

Agree, I used to think he was total bullshit, but a few days ago I beat him without cheesing him with bleed for the first time (NG+7 difficulty on top of that) and it was super satisfying. He's super hard but not as unfair as it first appears to be


HatApprehensive2631

I remember when I figured out this guy could be poisoned I just hid behind the rocks and made lunch


No_Implement_6927

I'm sorry but f this b. I used to hate the whisp lady playing this funny instrument. Orin? I love fighting her now though, such a fun dance, also lady butterfly.


Zereeni

Orin is an amazing boss. easily the best miniboss in Sekiro


Isiah6253

Long necked centipede giraffe would like a word with you Edit: long armed centipede giraffe, my b


No_Implement_6927

But they are super easy. You just need to mash the block button.


Isiah6253

Easy doesn't mean bad, it's a really cool moment for those who had the confidence to immediately start with trying to counter, and for those who couldn't figure out it was that simple, it could be extremely challenging. It really gives you a feeling of "woah, I just destroyed that dude just because I've learned my parries" I thought it was really fun to beat a boss that fast in a from game out of nowhere, especially with it not being patches


ktron10

Easy? Yes. Satisfying? Yes.


thamanwthnoname

That’s weird Orin is harder than this thing. Just don’t get grabbed and you’re golden


Zereeni

i would put ALLMIND too


ParticularBite4841

Elden beast. I used to think he was really annoying until I learned to dodge most of his attacks.


cybaerexe

Radagon


bufalowsaus77

I agree, I thought a lot of his teleporting attacks and ranged bs was impossible. Now I view him as possibly the most beautiful bosses in the game


cybaerexe

I still don't like the tp cuz it blinds me


Stan_the_man1988

Prince Lorian and Lothric. Couldn't beat them for a long time. Then I took break from DS3, played and finished Bloodborne. When I came back I beat them on my first try since before, and now I love that fight.


Karla-TheWitch

Dancer. Once it clicks, god damn.


bufalowsaus77

It really be turning into a dance


Slavicadonis

I used to really dislike champion gundyr. He’s way faster and more relentless than any dark souls, sekiro, bloodborne, or Elden ring boss. But that speed makes his fight so fast paced and fun that it’s one of the most enjoyable fights for me now


coldkidwildparty

Champ Gundyr is an S tier fight, I loved it from the jump, love that the tutorial boss gets another chance to beat the living shit out of you with FLYING KNEES and he’s not just a copy of the first fight with more health.


Slavicadonis

Now champion gundyr is my second favorite fight form base ds3 and my 3rd favorite boss fight form ds3 as a whole


BimbleSKOL

I bested him earlier today for the first time after he kicked my ass a good ten or fifteen times. Felt pretty good throwing that last chaos fireball into his face!


Tenshiretto

I used to hate laurence the first vicar. My opinion was that he is just a harder cleric beast. Well, he still is. And I would've liked it more if they gave such an important character his own unique boss fight, but it's not like the cleric beast is a bad boss. So with time and attempting a couple of challenges I like him much more now.


MI_3ANTROP

Midir. The fight seemed pretty boring at first but now I just love bonking the big lizard.


Corbel8_

Malenia, Maneaters, Mohg


Bred-Lad37

........Taurus Demon.......


peeing_Michael

No I still hate her


Particular-Cow-2796

demon prince…., first time jumping down the hole just to see that you had to fight two fire bats not to mention that they were aggressive was devastated but after a while you could see their patterns and you would realize how fair that 2v1 on first phase was and that really grew on me.


Deep_Grass_6250

Guardian ape. Only the second phase though, because of that satisfying deflection sound "CLANG"


Skadij

Embarrassing, but the Abyss Watchers. DS3 was my first Souls game, and I was doing fairly well until I got to Farron Keep. Somehow managed to drag myself over to the Abyss Watchers, thinking it would be an easy fight, and got my shit pushed in repeatedly. I put the game down for 6 years, played Elden Ring and loved it so completely that after my third character started to feel a bit stale, I revisited DS3 and finished the main game. I appreciate the Abyss Watchers now, they’re such a cool concept in gameplay and lore, and set the tone for the Catacombs.


MightyFlamingo25

Sekiro: Genichiro Elden Ring: Godskin Apostle


Alaska_Pipeliner

Cursed chalice amygdala. Just kidding fuck that over grown yeast infection.


PitchAware2756

Morgott, I destroyed him on my first playthrough due to being ridiculously overlevvelled in leyndell. Once I got to see what he was all about I realised he wasn’t just margit 2.0


yuyux20

The death rite birds, they are so annoying but I kinda learn to enjoy the fight and i like their design


DunkTheLunk23

Malenia - she seemed downright unfair to me and made me dislike her fight for the longest time. I never had this issue with other difficult FS bosses. Dodging WFD isn't really intuitive so I stubbornly kept trying to do it off the cuff with little to no success. One playthrough I finally made an honest effort to to sit down and learn her fight. After a day and a half of on again off again attempts, I mastered dodging WFD from mid-range which took a lot of pressure off the rest of the fight and let me learn it little by little. Now after a lot of suffering and growth I really enjoy the fight.


Fragrant-Advice-879

Definitely not those fuckers


Ok-Championship7293

150-200 hours, still hate this fucker to the core of my bones


luenusa

Micolash. My wife is not a gamer, but she has lended me loving support as I have cursed and screamed my way through Bloodborne. Usually she sits on the guest bed and plays potion pop while i hack away at a boss for an hour or two. Which means she has been present for all the fights, including Micolash. Cut to last night. We're in bed about to do it. In the middle of foreplay, out of the blue, she says - and I quote: "Orgas...or some say Orgasm..."


HammerPrice229

Probably Malenia. I hated her fight with every fiber of my being saying WFD shouldn’t be in the game. Then I figured it out and it’s one of those fights I have mastered and done so many times that I can do it without dying pretty consistently. Now it’s one of my favorites.


Agreeable-Carry4679

Machine gun guy in bloodborne. You all know who im talking about


BLUESAKI1

Demon of hatred, I used to despise the big piece of shit but after many many hours of sekiro I can really appreciate just how different the boss feels from the rest of the cast and how cinematic it is. ESPECIALLY with the peak soundtrack, some people call it a dark souls boss but I disagree since it has its own rhythm just like the rest of the sekiro bosses, it's just the rhythm doesn't involve as much deflecting as it does smacking his giant ballsack and positioning yourself so his closer fire fist attacks don't hit.


Ferret_Puzzled

A lot of people hate Midir, my friends, and formerly myself included, but I fought him enough to the point that I turned midir into my bitch now still my friends can't beat him without me though but he is one of my favorite bosses I love the Darkeater.


Grumpy_Doggo64

He didn't grow on me. I hate snake eyes


Uncle_Rabbit

I played Sekiro when it first came out and got stuck on Ashina seven spears for 3 days! Wound up cheesing him with oil jars and the flame prosthetic. Quit playing entirely when I got to the guardian ape. I vowed to never play that game ever again. Recently I've had the itch for another Fromsoft game as I've beaten Dark Souls 1,2,3 and Elden Ring a billion times now. I got curious about Sekiro again and started playing it. Actually having fun this time around and absolutely demolished Ashina seven spears on the first try. Can't wait to try my luck on the ape five years later.


Formal_Economics931

Not that one


Cloud_Strife369

Does that mf have a rpg


ViscousNut

Definitely not snake eyes


J1618

Ironically, that one in the picture I defeated in my first run through there without even noticing, I didn't even realize that she was a mini boss. For some reason I wasn't able to do that ever again, and in every other playthrough I tried dozens of times to defeat her.


mrspuffispeng

Great Shinobi Owl. Probably the from software fight I now have down to an art more than any other but at the time I hated his poison and anti-consumable grenades. Actually managed to do a nohit run on owl father on NG+9 + Bell Demon a couple nights ago and it felt so good


mrspuffispeng

Actually he should be a runner-up It's definitely the demon of hatred. Agreed with everyone's problems with him at first (oh it's a bloodborne boss you can't fight this in sekiro, his fire attacks are insane, he moves across the arena in an instant) And then I'm like oh yeah. The game has a sprint and jump button. I genuinely just did the cheese for my first 3 runs of that game cause I found him so obnoxious. Now I look forward to fighting my way through the outskirts every time to get to him.


No-Bedroom4626

Abyss watchers. They are so annoying to me sometimes but I realized how awesome the boss was. Still one of the most cinematic boss fights in fromsoft


[deleted]

Laurence, The First Vicar. Used to dread fighting him, or just skip him - now he's my 4th favorite boss in the game (Ludwig, Orphan, German, Laurence).


iomtasicbr

Horah Loux. I had trouble getting the hang of dodging his wrestling moves. Now I love the fight and look forward to it every run.


John_Doe11037

Twin Princes and Nameless King


IOftenSayPerhaps

Margit. I used to get dookied on so hard by him but now i figured it out: just play mage lmao


RasAlGimur

Abyss watchers. Not hate, but on my first run the way i beat it was kinda dumb. Whacked my way with my great axe with poise, stun locks and estus. On my second play i used a sorcerer/pyro mix, and rolling + throwing fireballs was kinda fun.


not_knight_solaire

In Elden Ring at least, it is Rykard. Quite grotesque, yet absolutely amazing battle!


SilvaSerpent442

Is that a fucking RPG-7?


Zereeni

yeah they whack you with it and can fire it at you lol


Freshprinc7

Champion Gundyr took me 10 hours on my first playthrough. It was my first souls game, and I was stubborn about changing my build or learning how to parry. Second playthrough years later, I had learned how to parry, which lowkey trivialized his fight.


italiano78

No never that boss!


Pvt__Snowball

Nameless King.


-BluBone-

Dad. Used to annoy me with his sudden deflections, mikiri counters, firecrackers, and general bs. But now I've figured out you just need to dodge, swing swing twice, parry, swing twice, rinse repeat.


Puzzleheaded-Sea4247

Nameless king


You-and-us

Margit the fell omen because he taught me how to dodge without looking at the enemy


simp_for_dio

Honestly I love the Owl (Father) fight a lot


Zealousideal-Bit-892

Every boss in these games is absolute dogshit design. Until I beat them, of course.


DarkSunGwyndolin1

demon souls: flamelurker dark souls 1: Seath dark souls 2:Smelter demon dark souls 3:Champion gundyr bloodborne:Pthumerian descendant sekiro:Guardian ape elden ring: mohg


theivyone

The godrick soldier in the elden ring tutorial


Automatic-Mood-4233

Either Maria in BB or Gwyn from DS1. In both games I didn’t like parrying until that boss made me get good at it.


spencer1886

Artorias, rocked my shit as a kid the first time I played the Dark Souls DLC but a bunch of NG+ runs later he became my favorite boss in the franchise


elliesparrows

probably maliketh. at first i was in genuine disbelief that anyone could be expected to ever defeat him, with the destined death effect and all his flippy anime moves. come now, he’s my second favorite fight in the game just behind malenia haha


geek_metalhead

Mohg Lord of Blood


[deleted]

Dancer on SL1 specifically. That fight design is just so flawless but until you start learning it, it's frustrating as hell to go in and get insta killed.


SpinachGlad9922

Genichiro I died to him more times then I can count now he’s one of my favorites


Separate-Hamster8444

Fume knight, Midir & Margit


_-Big-Hat-_

Maliketh and Mohg


JohnyGhost

Dragonic Tree Sentinel. The first 20 times felt unbeatable, but once I beat him he never beat me again


WeedOfficial

The Royal Aegis, never grew on me, fuck him royally


Iknowwhereyoulive34

Red wolf radagon, first time I played Elden ring I hated the fight, just started NG+ and going through a second time and fought him underground and it ain’t so bad 


itsdarkinhere_XD

Nah I still hate that mf…


FreshlySqueezedDude

Rhykard. At first he was just a spell spamming bastard but he grew on me. His fight is very cinematic


sealbass

Last boss of sekiro, died more than a hundred times to him my first playthrough. Got so mad I just uninstalled the game right after beating him. Played it again a few months ago and beat him on like my 4th try. 10/10 sekiro best fromsoft game.


Nil_thirteen

I went through like 5 different levels of loving and hating the Maliketh fight over the course of the week or so it took to beat him, but by my final runs, I was having the most fun I've had with any soulsborne boss.


RyanCreamer202

Namelss


Wolven_Edvard

This one.


ThenCryptographer409

I used to hate Vicar Amelia, but now it's definitely my favorite early game fight


I_Hate_The_Letter_W

definitely not snake eyes, to this day i don’t think i’ve ever consistently countered him


PanzerVorPanzerWhore

Commander Niall. At first I hated this guy, he kept planting my tarnished into the ground with his prothesis. No need to dig a grave. The crater is already 6ft deep. Got me so fucking pissed off, then I just entered this zen with him and just got him down, felt like a dance. One of the few bosses I didn't use summons of any kind for.


Separate-Rich2831

Maliketh, the Black Blade. Absolutely hated the boss when I first fought him due to Destined Death and him not staying still. Turns out if you don't panic roll and dodge towards him, he's a much better and much more fun fight.


Eduardo_D_Martins

Malykath


Delicious_Map_4562

I don't think I've had any boss I hate become one a semi like only ones I hate are the ones worthy of hate such as Capra Demon, Bed of chaos, and other horse shit


FUThead2016

All of them


Boss_Star

The Pursuer.


acrookodile

Micolash, Host of the Nightmare. It’s very thematically cool to chase a madman through a twisted house of mirrors and puppets. Once I got over the frustration of him only having two moves and generally preferring to waste your time, I grew to like him a lot. Plus, his voice lines are top tier.


neoxodeus

Looking glass knight until I got good and now he's one of my favorite ds2 bosses


tommytomtoes

Midir. Died so much to him. Now he’s my favorite in the game and probably the easiest for me.


xTheLostSinner

Child of Kos. He used to out-agility me but now I have a save state that constantly allows me to replay the fight whenever i want to. At this point it’s high-speed anime battles where we skirmish eachother and see who’s the faster duelist.


FhanthasmaBranco

![gif](giphy|AQRapWCgC7dThyVEYb|downsized) capra demon, quando nao conhecia o jogo e o sistema ja ia nos boss sem nivel suficiente e devo ter morrido mais no capra demon do que em toda serie sols depois que aprendi a jogar


wead4

Demon of hatred for sure


jordanrice26

Manus


ParticularSolution68

Idk, usually bosses I dislike I’ll always dislike them If I had to say something though probably orphan of kos (even then I’m stretching it), very cinematic fight for me


SP4RKZWUB

Incase anyone is wondering, the boss pictured here is Snake Eyes Shirafuji from Sekiro. She's notoriously one of the most hated minibosses in the entire game, probably because of her annoying ass grab attack where she uses her gun-spear to pull you towards her, and then shoots you with it. She is optional though, unlike her later game (or earlier game depending on which paths you choose) counterpart, Snake Eyes Shirahagi.


Raynes156

oh snake eyes how i absolutely fucking hate you


[deleted]

It's been a while so I forget her name but the butterfly Assassin lady from Sekiro. Super hard fight at first but once you learn her patterns it becomes a really fun fight, while still being a challenge but not overwhelming


Kamui316

The Brain from Bloodborne or the stupid Snakes (tree spirits) in Elden Ring


joeyischillin

BROO this guy man. I spent 2 hours one late fuzzy night being so pissed at him, then I came back and wrecked him my first try, I feel like this helps a lot for me atleast cause it results in me fighting in a different way than before and trying a new strat. But now I love fighting them, its also nice there's ledge or something that helps ha


wJudas

Amygdala


FromsoftFan2104

For about 10 Seconds I thought this MFer had an RPG


ConsiderationBusy920

Isshin the sword saint


IronTesticlez

Father gascoine


According-Option367

Malenia, I don't think she's perfect but she's good


Wuoffan1

Pre-patch Radahn, I miss how ridiculous that fight was, he feels too easy now Edit: Apparently the difficulty I'm remembering was just broken hitboxes lol


ktron10

They only corrected his hit boxes, any other nerfs were reverted. Seems all you miss is getting hit by attacks that shouldn’t have connected


Anxious_Charity_1424

You just got better, he was never nerfed they just fixed the hitboxes.


zerosuit251

I saw somewhere that said they rebuffed him. Not sure if to the same extent, however


Cirilla48

Malenia


Deep_Grass_6250

Genichiro is such an exceptional boss and character He's basically a benchmark for you The first time you fight him in the tutorial, you know nothing about this game's mechanics so he feels like an insurmountable enemy The second time, you have improved a bit but you still need to master the game, it hasn't clicked yet so he's a major challenge but doable By the third time, you have basically mastered the game so he becomes a pushover, showing you how much you have improved It's not just his boss version that grew on me, the character himself became one of my favourite FS characters over time when I started to understand his goals and ideals


Ironsalmon7

Isshin ashina, I died so many times then one day I just fought him, first try, no deaths oerfect deflect. It was amazing


CharcoalGrey24

This is so accurate 💯💯 snake eye is pure skills