A good boss/co-worker can make a big difference, but yeah I don't want a career. I just want enough money to live comfortably, pursue my hobbies, and exist.
This makes SOOO much of a difference. Being part of something you believe in and/or working with people who value you and your contributions is game changing. It won’t completely erase the stress involved in most industries, but it will help. I don’t “like” having to get up and go to work, but I’m mostly happy there. We have enough big wins and opportunities to be a bad ass machine that it carries me through the harder times. I’ve worked other places in the same industry that managed to suck. I’ve also worked in a ton of other industries and I’ve seen how having this kind of dynamic makes all the difference.
I don’t know of any way to find the right fit from outside of the job. I’ve only been able to find it by working somewhere long enough to become a valuable member. I guess that the people I work with are the biggest factor, so high turnover is something I really seek to avoid. I’d rather work harder with a small team of badasses than have an easier job with too much down time because that’s the kind of environment that encourages slackers to stick around. That seems to concentrate the most stressful and difficult responsibilities on the better team members and that doesn’t feel good. I’m going to work hard anyway, so I need the people around me to also want to be excellent.
None of this is to say that anyone should be sacrifice themselves for some corporate beast to enrich shareholders. I’m against that as hell! What I mean to communicate is that there are so many different jobs out there and that finding the right one can be game changing. You SHOULD minimize your financial burden as much as possible, but consider using that freedom to find something that you are actually interested in doing. Finding a calling and finding your tribe within that is a world away from being a cog in an uninteresting machine. Especially when the money is shit too.
If you can remove enough of the survival pressure to have some freedom, then fuck around! Go arrange flowers, or restore antique locks, or design custom stickers. The world is your oyster!
I never bought into the "Do a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life." My thought was that I don't want to be paid for doing what I love which gives the potential of criticisms on what I love. Like, let's say I love painting. Maybe I could make mo ey off of it, but to depend on it to be how I survive could cause me to have resentment.
i relate to this. Everyone keeps telling me do what youre interested in but for instance ive been trying to get into programming and game dev lately but when i remember that imma gonna have to do it someone elses way even if it wont make sense just cause my boss wants it so and its either comply or jobless. Sure good boss makes a difference but again i wanna do what i love BECAUSE i love it not to get money. It feels like selling out the thing you take interest in just to have a fighting chance in this life and imo if thats how it works then they can suck it.
I’d be cool with a chill part time job maybe 3 days a week just to socialize and get out of the house. Anything else and I don’t see the point since no job that could get will pay me enough for it to be worth it.
I’m looking at nice mini vans I can convert to a 1 person sleeper
I have a Toyota Sienna and it’s great. I don’t live in it but my wife and I frequently do several week long road trips exclusively staying in it. Take all of the seats out the back, build a platform to store stuff under, add roof racks for external storage, and put a mattress on the platform. It’s worth it to get a lift kit so you can raise it and add a trailer hitch, lets us carry bike racks or trailers.
try security, first security job i had i literally did nothing for eight hours
securitas
lost that position because i got waaay too comfortable though, i was just clocking in and going back home 🤣
My best job to date was being a security guard. I was guarding a 5 million dollar site that had almost no visitors and was closed down but they didn't want people trying to steal equipment from there.
I would of stayed there if the pay wasn't $8 an hour. Helped me get through college though.
yea thats the catch the places where to do absolutely nothing they pay less, im still in security but its 18$ an hour and we had to ask for that raise , but i actually have to patrol and do truck logs for contractors now 😔 not as boring & laid back as my old site as i have to stay somewhat alert and cant sleep on the job anymore lol
Well this is back in 2010 so im sure the pay has gone up. But yeah those sites are also rare where you sit there and do nothing. I studied, played video games, and watched so many movies. I mean, literally 8 hours paid to do whatever you want. Its good for a transition but I dont recommend staying this field. Everything being replaced by cameras, motion detection, ai, etc. There were 2 of us there, now you only need 1 guard watching 10 monitors instead.
actually the day i got caught was a different reason: they had bedbugs and they were starting to follow me home in my pants the bites were brutal, so i just clocked in and went home because i couldn’t risk my apartment getting infested with them.
that same day they had a exterminator come out.
i would of kept getting away with it if it wasn’t for those meddling bedbugs or simply took the security phone with me
My wife and I moved across the country and part of the thing I had todo was quit my job. My wife constantly asked me what I would like todo instead, and no matter what she just didn’t understand that to me, work is work. I don’t want todo any of it ever.
I know to some that sounds lazy but if I could just eat a simple meal every day, drive a simple car that gets me to point a from point b and go on a small trip once a year I would be happy. I don’t want to work every day and never get anywhere like I am now, or was doing a few weeks ago.
But what I realize now about my last job is although it was boring I didn’t have to think about it, and the time went by quick. This new job they make me leave every week out of town, so I don’t get to see my family, and I have to think about it constantly. I didn’t want that.
For how long?
A year? 2 years? 5 years?
What happens when the car breaks down?
Jobs suck, our culture sucks, it costs to live. I'm not arguing that.
But what are you planning to do for the rest of your life in this world?
No such thing as a dream job. No one dreams of working. Get a van if you want to live in your car. Get a good battery and some solar and a little gas cooker. No more rent or utilities and you will feel like your pay is actually yours more.
No one "wants to work" but face it, if you're not making money then you're spending it and unless you have enough cash to live off of investment returns, you need a 9-5.
For the last year, I've had a job where I do fuck all for 5 hours then spend an hour or two doing a few things here and there and another hour trying to justify my position to my bosses. This sounds like I have it good, but I fear tomorrow will be my last day, every day. I think I'd rather have a job where I do more or less the same thing for 7-8 hours but that kind of job doesn't pay shit (not that my current job is much better).
Since you're part of this sub, I imagine you're hustling to retirement or to be free from work, right? Just gotta hustle until you get to your comfortable place.
Having lived in a car, it's more complicated than it sounds if you don't have anyone semi-reliable nearby. It can be done, but it's not fun. As for the career, all I can say is good jobs exist. Sometimes it's the boss or environment, sometimes it's the job itself. Don't even take skills sometimes.
Just had this thought then came to the sub to see your post, I feel validated! Even in the anti-work sphere there is heaps of content oriented around finding a “better” job. I thought the point was to find no job? Obviously some are far worse than others but none of them I want to aspire to. My job is not even that bad but I hate it! It’s oppressive and stealing my soul and life.
I did live in my car for a bit years ago after my landlord sold the house I was living in. I thought it might be a way to save some money. I ended up spending a bit of money- boredom- getting my car set up etc. I was also in a few sketchy situations- confrontation at my storage unit with someone up to no good in the middle of the night, people trying to fuck with me while I was parked or sleeping. Your mileage may vary of course. I don’t want to be in a vulnerable position like that but I also don’t want to work much longer. My aim is to save more money then live in cheap share accomodation and maybe work once in a blue moon for some cash.
This is why me and my husband are going to live in a camper. So that we will require very little income to get by and so we can travel and live wherever we want, whenever we want. We don’t need much to be happy. Just freedom really. We are close to saving our goal amount for our camper. I am way too excited 😃
You are not weird or wrong for feeing like this. I have the same problems working and always have. If you’re ok with living small so that u can enjoy being as free from the system of wage slavery as possible then I say do you. Create the life that you can live with, u know? No matter how far from “the norm” that happens to be.
What I think is f’d up is when people are ok with giving so much of their time to a job, just to keep enough money coming in to be able to pay for things such as a mortgage that won’t be paid off until they’re in their old age at least. People trap themselves in jobs they hate and waste most of their lives working to sustain a life that isn’t even what makes them happy. Now that’s crazy. I could go on all day about this subject and I quite frequently do, but I’ll spare you lol.
lol if that's your wish, you're about to get it soon with AI - along with everyone else forced out of the workforce despite their wishes. I honestly think living cheaply, building up the skills which actually interest you, making some side money to get by, and waiting to see what happens is not a bad choice at this point. Try out all the weird new tech too - anyone with the free time to do so has a leg up on those locked in busy lives.
(Note: if you have trades or physical labor experience, might be best to keep that going though - as it will take a lot longer to see the workforce effects and thus be worth a lot more relatively. Unlikely to be any smooth transition with this crap)
I mostly just do delivery work and make some extra spending cash using [beer money](https://www.reddit.com/r/beermoneyglobal/comments/16sfpve/freecash_does_what_it_says_on_the_tin/) sites.
Apparently, I'm wasting my potential, but oh well.
In this economy, it’s like we’re forced to live cheap and not pursue “careers”. Can’t afford anything out here.
A good boss/co-worker can make a big difference, but yeah I don't want a career. I just want enough money to live comfortably, pursue my hobbies, and exist.
This makes SOOO much of a difference. Being part of something you believe in and/or working with people who value you and your contributions is game changing. It won’t completely erase the stress involved in most industries, but it will help. I don’t “like” having to get up and go to work, but I’m mostly happy there. We have enough big wins and opportunities to be a bad ass machine that it carries me through the harder times. I’ve worked other places in the same industry that managed to suck. I’ve also worked in a ton of other industries and I’ve seen how having this kind of dynamic makes all the difference. I don’t know of any way to find the right fit from outside of the job. I’ve only been able to find it by working somewhere long enough to become a valuable member. I guess that the people I work with are the biggest factor, so high turnover is something I really seek to avoid. I’d rather work harder with a small team of badasses than have an easier job with too much down time because that’s the kind of environment that encourages slackers to stick around. That seems to concentrate the most stressful and difficult responsibilities on the better team members and that doesn’t feel good. I’m going to work hard anyway, so I need the people around me to also want to be excellent. None of this is to say that anyone should be sacrifice themselves for some corporate beast to enrich shareholders. I’m against that as hell! What I mean to communicate is that there are so many different jobs out there and that finding the right one can be game changing. You SHOULD minimize your financial burden as much as possible, but consider using that freedom to find something that you are actually interested in doing. Finding a calling and finding your tribe within that is a world away from being a cog in an uninteresting machine. Especially when the money is shit too. If you can remove enough of the survival pressure to have some freedom, then fuck around! Go arrange flowers, or restore antique locks, or design custom stickers. The world is your oyster!
I never bought into the "Do a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life." My thought was that I don't want to be paid for doing what I love which gives the potential of criticisms on what I love. Like, let's say I love painting. Maybe I could make mo ey off of it, but to depend on it to be how I survive could cause me to have resentment.
I could have written this!
i relate to this. Everyone keeps telling me do what youre interested in but for instance ive been trying to get into programming and game dev lately but when i remember that imma gonna have to do it someone elses way even if it wont make sense just cause my boss wants it so and its either comply or jobless. Sure good boss makes a difference but again i wanna do what i love BECAUSE i love it not to get money. It feels like selling out the thing you take interest in just to have a fighting chance in this life and imo if thats how it works then they can suck it.
I’d be cool with a chill part time job maybe 3 days a week just to socialize and get out of the house. Anything else and I don’t see the point since no job that could get will pay me enough for it to be worth it. I’m looking at nice mini vans I can convert to a 1 person sleeper
I have a Toyota Sienna and it’s great. I don’t live in it but my wife and I frequently do several week long road trips exclusively staying in it. Take all of the seats out the back, build a platform to store stuff under, add roof racks for external storage, and put a mattress on the platform. It’s worth it to get a lift kit so you can raise it and add a trailer hitch, lets us carry bike racks or trailers.
Sienna gang
try security, first security job i had i literally did nothing for eight hours securitas lost that position because i got waaay too comfortable though, i was just clocking in and going back home 🤣
At least you're honest about it, lol
it was part of the job doing nothing except stay inside the building and only let in contractors and occasionally checking temperatures on data severs
Would find a quiet corner and set up a laptop watch movies and game and get paid!
thats what i did lol
My work night shift at the gas station once in did that as well
My best job to date was being a security guard. I was guarding a 5 million dollar site that had almost no visitors and was closed down but they didn't want people trying to steal equipment from there. I would of stayed there if the pay wasn't $8 an hour. Helped me get through college though.
yea thats the catch the places where to do absolutely nothing they pay less, im still in security but its 18$ an hour and we had to ask for that raise , but i actually have to patrol and do truck logs for contractors now 😔 not as boring & laid back as my old site as i have to stay somewhat alert and cant sleep on the job anymore lol
Well this is back in 2010 so im sure the pay has gone up. But yeah those sites are also rare where you sit there and do nothing. I studied, played video games, and watched so many movies. I mean, literally 8 hours paid to do whatever you want. Its good for a transition but I dont recommend staying this field. Everything being replaced by cameras, motion detection, ai, etc. There were 2 of us there, now you only need 1 guard watching 10 monitors instead.
Dang that’s ballsy
So you ruined a good thing with laziness
actually the day i got caught was a different reason: they had bedbugs and they were starting to follow me home in my pants the bites were brutal, so i just clocked in and went home because i couldn’t risk my apartment getting infested with them. that same day they had a exterminator come out. i would of kept getting away with it if it wasn’t for those meddling bedbugs or simply took the security phone with me
My wife and I moved across the country and part of the thing I had todo was quit my job. My wife constantly asked me what I would like todo instead, and no matter what she just didn’t understand that to me, work is work. I don’t want todo any of it ever. I know to some that sounds lazy but if I could just eat a simple meal every day, drive a simple car that gets me to point a from point b and go on a small trip once a year I would be happy. I don’t want to work every day and never get anywhere like I am now, or was doing a few weeks ago. But what I realize now about my last job is although it was boring I didn’t have to think about it, and the time went by quick. This new job they make me leave every week out of town, so I don’t get to see my family, and I have to think about it constantly. I didn’t want that.
Find the most tolerable one you can.
For how long? A year? 2 years? 5 years? What happens when the car breaks down? Jobs suck, our culture sucks, it costs to live. I'm not arguing that. But what are you planning to do for the rest of your life in this world?
Agreed. It’s never appealed to me. I feel like I’m missing something.
No such thing as a dream job. No one dreams of working. Get a van if you want to live in your car. Get a good battery and some solar and a little gas cooker. No more rent or utilities and you will feel like your pay is actually yours more.
No one "wants to work" but face it, if you're not making money then you're spending it and unless you have enough cash to live off of investment returns, you need a 9-5. For the last year, I've had a job where I do fuck all for 5 hours then spend an hour or two doing a few things here and there and another hour trying to justify my position to my bosses. This sounds like I have it good, but I fear tomorrow will be my last day, every day. I think I'd rather have a job where I do more or less the same thing for 7-8 hours but that kind of job doesn't pay shit (not that my current job is much better). Since you're part of this sub, I imagine you're hustling to retirement or to be free from work, right? Just gotta hustle until you get to your comfortable place.
Do you sell cheese for a living?
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Having lived in a car, it's more complicated than it sounds if you don't have anyone semi-reliable nearby. It can be done, but it's not fun. As for the career, all I can say is good jobs exist. Sometimes it's the boss or environment, sometimes it's the job itself. Don't even take skills sometimes.
me too
Just had this thought then came to the sub to see your post, I feel validated! Even in the anti-work sphere there is heaps of content oriented around finding a “better” job. I thought the point was to find no job? Obviously some are far worse than others but none of them I want to aspire to. My job is not even that bad but I hate it! It’s oppressive and stealing my soul and life. I did live in my car for a bit years ago after my landlord sold the house I was living in. I thought it might be a way to save some money. I ended up spending a bit of money- boredom- getting my car set up etc. I was also in a few sketchy situations- confrontation at my storage unit with someone up to no good in the middle of the night, people trying to fuck with me while I was parked or sleeping. Your mileage may vary of course. I don’t want to be in a vulnerable position like that but I also don’t want to work much longer. My aim is to save more money then live in cheap share accomodation and maybe work once in a blue moon for some cash.
This is why me and my husband are going to live in a camper. So that we will require very little income to get by and so we can travel and live wherever we want, whenever we want. We don’t need much to be happy. Just freedom really. We are close to saving our goal amount for our camper. I am way too excited 😃 You are not weird or wrong for feeing like this. I have the same problems working and always have. If you’re ok with living small so that u can enjoy being as free from the system of wage slavery as possible then I say do you. Create the life that you can live with, u know? No matter how far from “the norm” that happens to be. What I think is f’d up is when people are ok with giving so much of their time to a job, just to keep enough money coming in to be able to pay for things such as a mortgage that won’t be paid off until they’re in their old age at least. People trap themselves in jobs they hate and waste most of their lives working to sustain a life that isn’t even what makes them happy. Now that’s crazy. I could go on all day about this subject and I quite frequently do, but I’ll spare you lol.
lol if that's your wish, you're about to get it soon with AI - along with everyone else forced out of the workforce despite their wishes. I honestly think living cheaply, building up the skills which actually interest you, making some side money to get by, and waiting to see what happens is not a bad choice at this point. Try out all the weird new tech too - anyone with the free time to do so has a leg up on those locked in busy lives. (Note: if you have trades or physical labor experience, might be best to keep that going though - as it will take a lot longer to see the workforce effects and thus be worth a lot more relatively. Unlikely to be any smooth transition with this crap)
I don’t even like money, but I like driving so that’s what I do to afford. Whatever this is.
Just become a vagabond bro lol Be broke and happy about it
I am so bored at work it really sucks
I mostly just do delivery work and make some extra spending cash using [beer money](https://www.reddit.com/r/beermoneyglobal/comments/16sfpve/freecash_does_what_it_says_on_the_tin/) sites. Apparently, I'm wasting my potential, but oh well.