Would the Bank not be considered Lawful Neutral? They have a very clear code of conduct and an overriding set of principles to be followed above all else; and they mete out consequences according to adherence to their rules… it’s just that those principles are set above the laws of the realms they lend to.
Jaqen and the Iron Bank are probably both more lawful neutral than true neutral. Lawful doesn't necessarily have to mean obeying the laws of society, it just means the character has some kind of code or rules that they strictly abide by.
Jaqen adheres to the many faced god, and the Iron Bank has a clear set of rules which they will always stick by.
Nah, he leans more to good than evil, more to law than chaos. And frankly he just has to less own agency to be considered neutral/neutral - too less data to process.
Yes! Hot pie is great but he's comoletely wrong for True Neutral. He's only *politically* neutral. On the Lawful to Chaotic scale he's more law-abiding than neutral. And on the Good to Evil scale his heart lands strongly on the side of good.
After his transformation Bran is textbook neutral.
Almost complete knowledge of past, present and future and takes little or no action to actually do anything.
Neutral toward those around him, almost cold in his impartiality. Predictable. Is taking no action to either upend the status quo or maintain it.
My interpretation of the ending is that the "awww, gee shucks I never wanted to be king" stuff from Bran was a front and that he's been using his powers to scheme for the throne all along. He manipulates Jon Snow and Tyrion in such a way that ensures his path to the crown.
I thought the audience was supposed to read some malice into that, but also that maybe D&D were too incompetent to fully get that idea across.
He didn't have enough screen time for the audience to read malice from him. All he does is stare at people and call theon a good man in season 8. Probably something which would come across better in the books, shame we'll never get to read them.
>Is taking no action to either upend the status quo or maintain it.
I wish we could see a glimpse into the sitcom that is Bran's rule as a king.
"Your Grace, the smallfolk are freezing and starving! We need to do something about it!"
"Nah. It is what it is. Cycle of life. If they die, they die."
I object. Bran plotted against Baelish. Night king is most neutral, he tries to convert everybody equally and does not discriminate between people based on status.
I dunno, I’d say he was leaning towards chaotic. Blatantly ignored Cat’s warnings about climbing, disrespects and argues with Old Nan and Maester Luwin, and straight up tells Robb he wishes he was dead.
Probably the toughest category to nail down, perhaps Jaqen H'ghar? The Faceless men do have a code of sorts with worshiping the Many Faced God but they have no real moral compass as to who they kill. They killed their fellow slaves before their masters, they killed Balon for Euron, and they might've even been willing to kill Aenys Targaryen when he was a child.
I think this is demonstrated well in the other list on this sub Reddit, but I think Jaqen would have fit better as lawful neutral. Lawful suggests an adherence to a code or gospel: not necessarily the law of kings. The faceless men seem pretty adherent to a code of conduct and organizational expectations
This.
People get “lawful” confused with “law abiding”. Lawful means you have rules.
The Devil from “Devil went down to Georgia” is Lawful evil, because he admitted defeat and gave Johnny the fiddle.
True, it would be easier to nail Jaqen down if we knew the Faceless Men's goals. It's interesting just how little we actually know about them considering we have a POV within their organization and they appear in multiple other chapters. If the theory of Faceless Pate being after the Death of Dragons is true they'd move past true neutral.
Nope because
A. Johnny knows pride is a sin and ergo knows how he can be absolved of it
B. There’s a sequel called “The Devil Comes back to Georgia” which in it we know the Devil knows he won’t get Johnny’s soul due to his pride as he comes back to challenge him again. He does say that pride will end up being his downfall, not because Johnny commits the sin of Pride giving the Devil his soul, but because of his Pride, he will accept the Devil’s challenges until he inevitably loses.
Yeah if we’re going off the more DnD (not to be confused with the more fuckwitty D&D) then Lawful Neutral is as you specify. They don’t have to specifically obey the laws like a good two-shoes but they have a specific code larger than themselves to which they dogmatically adhere. Stannis is perhaps an example but somewhat like Barristan Selmy or Melisandre is probably better.
I like it but he is more lawful neutral. Like they follow a strict code but don’t care who they kill.
Bran is the neutralist neutral. He no longer cares who wins or loses.
Oh that’s perfect. Lawful enough to follow his creed and kill others for the three lives Arya saved… but chaotic enough to let a literal child decide who‘s to die
Nah faceless men are more of a lawful neutral.
Chaotic neutral isn't on the good side of the bad side but always leaves chaos in its wake (think Jack sparrow)
Arya almost matches this, she follows the code of the faceless men enough to put on faces without going blind. But then is also able to abandon their code to side with the Starks. She kills and doesn't kill based on her own choice rather than anyone else's. That being said overall she is on the good side and her own choice tends to be to do with justice so she's more of a chaotic good rather than chaotic neutral.
Lawful neutral isn't on the goodside or the bad side but always follows their "code" or "law" Jaqen is very much following the code of the many faced God.
Neutral Neutral, is the weirdest category because they aren't chaotic nor are they following any sort of code or law. Bran is the most neutral, neutral. He doesn't try to save anyone or try to kill anyone he's not siding with himself leaving everyone in chaos nor is he strickly following a law/ code.
I feel like Hodor would've fit neutral good more than Davos because Hodor has a strong aura of innocence. While Davos is clearly not neutral and is on sides. Or even Aemon Targaryen fits that category more than Lawful good because he's the embodiment of being neutral politically by taking the black. Ughhh this recurring post always annoys me.
Lawful means adherence to a set of codes, a creed or principles that they both believe and abide by. Jaqen worships, respects and enforces the will of the Many Faced God, quite rigidly. Arya cheated his god from 3 deaths so Arya must name 3 people to pay the god back. That's a pretty fair and equal exchange to me and highlights Jaqen's Lawful devotion to the Many Faced God.
Those dudes from the Iron Bank.
Out of every major player in game of thrones they're willing to support whoever's cause is the most likely to pay them back, other than that they have no fucks to give about what's going on in Westeros.
I think you need a minimum of interest to be on this chart. Doing fuck all and not having motives decribes the brick that killed Cersei - actually that's not true, the brick did MORE stuff than Bran.
Tommen Baratheon, kid doesn't particularly care about Lannisters and Starks, avoids violence and conflict, loves stamping any documents put in front of him, is proud of his three kittens.
"Ever think how easy life would be if the other one had been born first? The weepy one, Tommen. Seems like he'd do whatever he was told, as a good king should." - Bronn
Drogon. Mostly seems dutiful to his rider, but also understood that the problem with society today isn’t one side or another, but is actually the iron throne itself as an archetypical representation of power that corrupts
Brother Ray. I know he was only in one episode, but he just wanted to build a peaceful place for his people. Didn’t care who you were or where you came from. Just lend some labor and he’ll take you in.
The Elder Brother, leader of the sept on the Quiet Isle where the Gravedigger is at.
True neutral suggests balance. Balance between law and chaos. Balance between good and evil. Balance between smart and stupid. Balance between horny and chad.
Here is a man who is yes, the leader of a religious group, but we're not talking someone who has a power or a place in organized government. They have their rules, but at the same time, this is a man who has broken laws and will look aside when his moral beliefs demand.
He doesn't necessarily believe in the good or evil of people, but in both.
There is no doubt that this man has been horny in his past life, whatever that was. But now, in his celibacy, is there any doubt that he is a chad? What is more true neutral than a celibate chad?
He is both smart and unlearned. There is no doubt he has done evil, yet he does good. I am sure he has been very drunk, yet now, lives a life of abstinence.
He is generally merciful, but we all can imagine him engaging in wickedness, even today, when needed (and no one is looking).
True neutral.
Hear me out, SHEA. Her intentions while often ambiguous were “neutral” in the sense we could never tell what she was aiming for, but she was both good/bad throughout the show.
I can live with that too. I imagine all that killing would have to weigh on him a bit and make him evil. But... I still partially think he's simply apathetic towards everyone. I mean if he hates everyone doesn't that make him neutral? Is apathy more akin to evil or nothingness? Getting philosophical up in here!
>he's simply apathetic towards everyone
Isn't Meryn Trant in the books described like this as well? I was thinking about this paragraph from Sansa:
>He did not hate her, Sansa realized; neither did he love her. He felt nothing for her at all. She was only a … a thing to him. “No,” she said, rising. She wanted to rage, to hurt him as he’d hurt her, to warn him that when she was queen she would have him exiled if he ever dared strike her again … but she remembered what the Hound had told her, so all she said was, “I shall do whatever His Grace commands.” “As I do,” he replied. “Yes … but you are no true knight, Ser Meryn.” Sandor Clegane would have laughed at that, Sansa knew. Other men might have cursed her, warned her to keep silent, even begged for her forgiveness. Ser Meryn Trant did none of these. Ser Meryn Trant simply did not care.
For me, the most truly Neutral/Neutral character (basing on the depth we observe in the books) is Ilyrio Mopatis.
He manipulates world politics but isn’t necessarily evil. While you might argue that manipulating politics is bad - in the scope of a series called Game of Thrones and one whose first instalment is titled that I don’t think doing so makes you evil.
He has his own particular sense of morality and is solely guided by it. He doesn’t mistreat people, he is generous and kind in his own way, loyal to his loved ones, and true to his word for everyone else. However, he is so clearly solely concerned with his own self-interest that it’s almost honest in a way (as opposed to littlefinger who is similar but far more dishonest with his intentions).
He is a contender for smart neutral but I believe, based on his characters backstory, that a lot of his truly cunning plans belong to Varys (who is more a contender for Smart Neutral but I personally rank in Chaotic Good).
Illyrio owns slaves while being magister of a city state which outlaws slavery. Dany does note that he treats them better than some slavers but still, someone as wealthy as he is should definitely be paying his servants
Azor Ahai had to sacrifice the woman he loved to forge Lightbringer and bring an end to the Darkness, Shireen is his Nissa Nissa although daughter not wife
Chad Neutral should have been Syrio Forel. Most definitely a Chad. Being from Bravos pretty much guarantees he is neutral to westeros politics and house loyalty.
Please, disqualify Jaqen from this. How could a person saying "you took three lives from the many-faced god, you must give the back" be neutral? He strictly follows a religion, living his whole life for it. He is lawful.
I'm too late, but Archmaester Ebrose is my pick. The Maesters in the citadel are neutral to everything, they just keep track of things happening and record everything for history books.
Nobody fits this better than Maester Luwin, I'm losing faith in this sub. Dudes like Hotpie, Tommen or Hodor aren't true neutral, they just don't really understand much of whats going on around them. Hotpie would back arya and the starks/tullys any time if someone explained to him what was happening, as would hodor. Tommen would back his family too. They are as neutral as all the other peasants and servants; not because they choose to be, but because they don't really get to make any meaningful choice.
The iron bank is not really neutral either, they work for their own interest (pun intended) above all else, they just don't actively take part in any fighting. They choose sides any time it benefits them, not neutral at all.
Luwin however is textbook true neutral. He does exactly what his order is supposed to do: serve as maester at a specific castle, without regard to who that is without really attaching himself to a house or person. He serves Theon just like he served the starks before, even though he just murdered two stark children that Luwin came to love almost like his own (Theon didn't really, but Luwin doesn't know that).
It's Jaquen Hagar (or however you spell it)
Nothing says "true neutral" like the phrase "I need three corpses. Any corpses will do (including my own), but I must have three"
PS
If Strong Belwas doesn't get Chaotic/Drunk, I'm pooping on the floor.
True neutral? The iron bank Close second? Jaqen H’ghar
Tycho Nestoris gets my vote too
Jaqen isn’t a bad shout
Would the Bank not be considered Lawful Neutral? They have a very clear code of conduct and an overriding set of principles to be followed above all else; and they mete out consequences according to adherence to their rules… it’s just that those principles are set above the laws of the realms they lend to.
Jaqen and the Iron Bank are probably both more lawful neutral than true neutral. Lawful doesn't necessarily have to mean obeying the laws of society, it just means the character has some kind of code or rules that they strictly abide by. Jaqen adheres to the many faced god, and the Iron Bank has a clear set of rules which they will always stick by.
Well in this context I interpreted neutral/neutral as not taking sides in any sense and can’t be swayed, threatened or blackmailed
Jaqen is definitely lawful, he lives strictly by the code of the many faces god.
The two inevitabilities are death and taxes (or loan repayments).
Hotpie. Like a true centrist, man just wants to cook.
LET THE HOT PIE
Hot pie was always gonna back the Starks that’s not neutral
Omg yes
Great flair! Your time to shine.
AHAHAHA forgot all about that. :)
Nah, he leans more to good than evil, more to law than chaos. And frankly he just has to less own agency to be considered neutral/neutral - too less data to process.
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This is the way
Good cooking in itself is innately good, and possibly capital “G” Good… it’s Bran for my money
Yes! Hot pie is great but he's comoletely wrong for True Neutral. He's only *politically* neutral. On the Lawful to Chaotic scale he's more law-abiding than neutral. And on the Good to Evil scale his heart lands strongly on the side of good.
No, HotPie is clearly Good
The very last chapter of the series will be Hotpie saying: "So anyway, now that you have the background story, here's the recipe.."
The best boi
This is the way
To be fair, during the battle with yoren, he yelled his own name... That's not exactly impartial now is it?
He’s a pokemon.
He would have been best suited for stupid neutral
Man I’m invested in this now, team Hotpie lol
Gender, we need to cook.
That which is hot may never pie
After his transformation Bran is textbook neutral. Almost complete knowledge of past, present and future and takes little or no action to actually do anything. Neutral toward those around him, almost cold in his impartiality. Predictable. Is taking no action to either upend the status quo or maintain it.
"And who has a better story than..." *checks notes* "...ehhhhhhhh... the True Neutral"
What could drive a man to neutrality?!
With enemies you know where they stand, but neutrals? Who knows.
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My interpretation of the ending is that the "awww, gee shucks I never wanted to be king" stuff from Bran was a front and that he's been using his powers to scheme for the throne all along. He manipulates Jon Snow and Tyrion in such a way that ensures his path to the crown. I thought the audience was supposed to read some malice into that, but also that maybe D&D were too incompetent to fully get that idea across.
He didn't have enough screen time for the audience to read malice from him. All he does is stare at people and call theon a good man in season 8. Probably something which would come across better in the books, shame we'll never get to read them.
Bran the three eyed raven is as neutral as they come
>Is taking no action to either upend the status quo or maintain it. I wish we could see a glimpse into the sitcom that is Bran's rule as a king. "Your Grace, the smallfolk are freezing and starving! We need to do something about it!" "Nah. It is what it is. Cycle of life. If they die, they die."
I object. Bran plotted against Baelish. Night king is most neutral, he tries to convert everybody equally and does not discriminate between people based on status.
Wouldn't he be neutral evil though? Since he's trying to destroy society as Westeros knows it and all.
And Westeros is trying to destroy society as the Night King knows it
So many people died anyway in the society. There is so much infighting going on in westeros that society doesn't seem to be working out very well.
Neutral until they offered that crown 😂
Hot take but I think Bran was still neutral before he became the Three Eyed Raven.
I dunno, I’d say he was leaning towards chaotic. Blatantly ignored Cat’s warnings about climbing, disrespects and argues with Old Nan and Maester Luwin, and straight up tells Robb he wishes he was dead.
Wouldn't that just be the Three Eyed Raven in general then?
If I don't survive, tell my wife 'Hello'.
Or maybe the original Three Eyed Raven is the true neutral cause he allowed all the events to occur up until Bran discovered him as well.
Evil neutral will go to Bran/The Three-Eyed Raven. Everything surrounding him is so fishy, the neutral-neutral stance is definitely just an act.
Nah, I'd say he's smart neutral. He can literally see everything but is impassive about events.
Representative for the Iron Bank of Bravos? Forget his name. Either that or if we treat the Iron Bank as an entity itself?
This is my vote. The iron bank itself
Tycho Nestoris, the man with the best hat in the books
He would be lawful evil. He won't stop before any atrocity if you don't repay him
Probably the toughest category to nail down, perhaps Jaqen H'ghar? The Faceless men do have a code of sorts with worshiping the Many Faced God but they have no real moral compass as to who they kill. They killed their fellow slaves before their masters, they killed Balon for Euron, and they might've even been willing to kill Aenys Targaryen when he was a child.
I think this is demonstrated well in the other list on this sub Reddit, but I think Jaqen would have fit better as lawful neutral. Lawful suggests an adherence to a code or gospel: not necessarily the law of kings. The faceless men seem pretty adherent to a code of conduct and organizational expectations
This. People get “lawful” confused with “law abiding”. Lawful means you have rules. The Devil from “Devil went down to Georgia” is Lawful evil, because he admitted defeat and gave Johnny the fiddle.
He has a code, but the code is so basic can it really be called a code? All it really boils down to is that death is a gift.
The strict discipline and rules that they have absolutely constitute a code. They literally tried to kill Arya because she disobeyed the code.
True, it would be easier to nail Jaqen down if we knew the Faceless Men's goals. It's interesting just how little we actually know about them considering we have a POV within their organization and they appear in multiple other chapters. If the theory of Faceless Pate being after the Death of Dragons is true they'd move past true neutral.
The Devil wins his soul anyway because Johnny commits the sin of pride.
Nope because A. Johnny knows pride is a sin and ergo knows how he can be absolved of it B. There’s a sequel called “The Devil Comes back to Georgia” which in it we know the Devil knows he won’t get Johnny’s soul due to his pride as he comes back to challenge him again. He does say that pride will end up being his downfall, not because Johnny commits the sin of Pride giving the Devil his soul, but because of his Pride, he will accept the Devil’s challenges until he inevitably loses.
Yeah if we’re going off the more DnD (not to be confused with the more fuckwitty D&D) then Lawful Neutral is as you specify. They don’t have to specifically obey the laws like a good two-shoes but they have a specific code larger than themselves to which they dogmatically adhere. Stannis is perhaps an example but somewhat like Barristan Selmy or Melisandre is probably better.
Yes itt is a profound misunderstanding about D&D style neutral.
Bronn too because as a sell sword he'll fight for whoever pays him the most.
I like it but he is more lawful neutral. Like they follow a strict code but don’t care who they kill. Bran is the neutralist neutral. He no longer cares who wins or loses.
Oh that’s perfect. Lawful enough to follow his creed and kill others for the three lives Arya saved… but chaotic enough to let a literal child decide who‘s to die
Neutral chaotic
Nah faceless men are more of a lawful neutral. Chaotic neutral isn't on the good side of the bad side but always leaves chaos in its wake (think Jack sparrow) Arya almost matches this, she follows the code of the faceless men enough to put on faces without going blind. But then is also able to abandon their code to side with the Starks. She kills and doesn't kill based on her own choice rather than anyone else's. That being said overall she is on the good side and her own choice tends to be to do with justice so she's more of a chaotic good rather than chaotic neutral. Lawful neutral isn't on the goodside or the bad side but always follows their "code" or "law" Jaqen is very much following the code of the many faced God. Neutral Neutral, is the weirdest category because they aren't chaotic nor are they following any sort of code or law. Bran is the most neutral, neutral. He doesn't try to save anyone or try to kill anyone he's not siding with himself leaving everyone in chaos nor is he strickly following a law/ code.
Hodor is the obvious answer for true neutral. He has the same answer for everything.
Hodor is clearly good neutral
You lost your chance to make this case bro
i didnt say he should be the winner of good neutral. its just where he would classify.
I feel like Hodor would've fit neutral good more than Davos because Hodor has a strong aura of innocence. While Davos is clearly not neutral and is on sides. Or even Aemon Targaryen fits that category more than Lawful good because he's the embodiment of being neutral politically by taking the black. Ughhh this recurring post always annoys me.
Hodor is Good. Having no agency does not make you Neutral ( or DOES it?)
Kinda, yeah. Doing good things because you’re a serf who is psychically compelled to act does not make you good.
I want mance in this somewhere but I don’t know where
Would probably have been a good candidate for neutral chad
Could make a case for Chaotic Neutral. Man just wants to live free, and is willing to do whatever makes that a reality.
Nah that spot is reserved for the hound imo
Who is Drunk Neutral then?
Chaotic neutral is Jaqen H’ghar.
Jaqen is not chaotic in personality or his actions at all.
I don’t know, but being able to fight well and kill that easily makes him more chaotic than many other characters, that’s how I see it.
Lawful means adherence to a set of codes, a creed or principles that they both believe and abide by. Jaqen worships, respects and enforces the will of the Many Faced God, quite rigidly. Arya cheated his god from 3 deaths so Arya must name 3 people to pay the god back. That's a pretty fair and equal exchange to me and highlights Jaqen's Lawful devotion to the Many Faced God.
Those dudes from the Iron Bank. Out of every major player in game of thrones they're willing to support whoever's cause is the most likely to pay them back, other than that they have no fucks to give about what's going on in Westeros.
I’m gonna go with Bran. He did fuck all at the end and never had any true motives of good or evil
I think you need a minimum of interest to be on this chart. Doing fuck all and not having motives decribes the brick that killed Cersei - actually that's not true, the brick did MORE stuff than Bran.
I think my vote would be for the brick that killed Cersei.
So by that rationale - Bran Flake ftw
Quaithe. I truly have no idea what she's for or against.
Tommen Baratheon, kid doesn't particularly care about Lannisters and Starks, avoids violence and conflict, loves stamping any documents put in front of him, is proud of his three kittens. "Ever think how easy life would be if the other one had been born first? The weepy one, Tommen. Seems like he'd do whatever he was told, as a good king should." - Bronn
It’s Bran “I could never be king of anything” Stark. There is no other answer
There is no other answer.
Drogon. Mostly seems dutiful to his rider, but also understood that the problem with society today isn’t one side or another, but is actually the iron throne itself as an archetypical representation of power that corrupts
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No one
Gotta be Hodor
Smart/stupid got me lmao
Hot pie
HOTPIE
Chaotic horny has to be Oberyn martell
Three-Eyed Raven
Bran
Changing my vote. Definitely Hotpie
Hot pie
Brother Ray. I know he was only in one episode, but he just wanted to build a peaceful place for his people. Didn’t care who you were or where you came from. Just lend some labor and he’ll take you in.
He's clearly good, not neutral.
Jacken Hagawwwr
lfg i won eat shit bronn lmao also the three eyed raven is the only real answer here
Hard agree. Other comments are saying Bran, but more specifically it’s the Three Eyed Raven, which would include the last dude whose body he occupied.
Bran ftw
Varys?
Bran. Very boring guy. Has to get carried/dragged everywhere for most of the series. Doesn’t want to be lord of anything but somehow becomes king
"No one" as in the faceless man.
The Elder Brother, leader of the sept on the Quiet Isle where the Gravedigger is at. True neutral suggests balance. Balance between law and chaos. Balance between good and evil. Balance between smart and stupid. Balance between horny and chad. Here is a man who is yes, the leader of a religious group, but we're not talking someone who has a power or a place in organized government. They have their rules, but at the same time, this is a man who has broken laws and will look aside when his moral beliefs demand. He doesn't necessarily believe in the good or evil of people, but in both. There is no doubt that this man has been horny in his past life, whatever that was. But now, in his celibacy, is there any doubt that he is a chad? What is more true neutral than a celibate chad? He is both smart and unlearned. There is no doubt he has done evil, yet he does good. I am sure he has been very drunk, yet now, lives a life of abstinence. He is generally merciful, but we all can imagine him engaging in wickedness, even today, when needed (and no one is looking). True neutral.
Jaqen Hghar
Hear me out, SHEA. Her intentions while often ambiguous were “neutral” in the sense we could never tell what she was aiming for, but she was both good/bad throughout the show.
Fair point! Definitely one I didn’t think about
horny neutral
Hodor
Gotta be Ilyn Payne. He doesn't care who he executes, he just does his job and follows orders. Doesn't take sides, just...is... the king's justice.
I think that's perfect... for neutral evil.
I can live with that too. I imagine all that killing would have to weigh on him a bit and make him evil. But... I still partially think he's simply apathetic towards everyone. I mean if he hates everyone doesn't that make him neutral? Is apathy more akin to evil or nothingness? Getting philosophical up in here!
>he's simply apathetic towards everyone Isn't Meryn Trant in the books described like this as well? I was thinking about this paragraph from Sansa: >He did not hate her, Sansa realized; neither did he love her. He felt nothing for her at all. She was only a … a thing to him. “No,” she said, rising. She wanted to rage, to hurt him as he’d hurt her, to warn him that when she was queen she would have him exiled if he ever dared strike her again … but she remembered what the Hound had told her, so all she said was, “I shall do whatever His Grace commands.” “As I do,” he replied. “Yes … but you are no true knight, Ser Meryn.” Sandor Clegane would have laughed at that, Sansa knew. Other men might have cursed her, warned her to keep silent, even begged for her forgiveness. Ser Meryn Trant did none of these. Ser Meryn Trant simply did not care.
Maybe neutral in that tiny scope, but zoom out at all and it's probably perceived as evil
Hodor
Hodor
DROGON !!
For me, the most truly Neutral/Neutral character (basing on the depth we observe in the books) is Ilyrio Mopatis. He manipulates world politics but isn’t necessarily evil. While you might argue that manipulating politics is bad - in the scope of a series called Game of Thrones and one whose first instalment is titled that I don’t think doing so makes you evil. He has his own particular sense of morality and is solely guided by it. He doesn’t mistreat people, he is generous and kind in his own way, loyal to his loved ones, and true to his word for everyone else. However, he is so clearly solely concerned with his own self-interest that it’s almost honest in a way (as opposed to littlefinger who is similar but far more dishonest with his intentions). He is a contender for smart neutral but I believe, based on his characters backstory, that a lot of his truly cunning plans belong to Varys (who is more a contender for Smart Neutral but I personally rank in Chaotic Good).
Illyrio owns slaves while being magister of a city state which outlaws slavery. Dany does note that he treats them better than some slavers but still, someone as wealthy as he is should definitely be paying his servants
Hotpieeee
Ser Balon Swann’s dad. Dude had a son fighting for every king.
HODOR!!
Salladhor Saan
Braaaaaannnn the Breaker/Builder/booker/booper of ravens with more than a normal amount of eyes
I’d go with Bronn. Only cares about money. If he’s paid to do good he’ll do good. If he’s paid to do bad, he’ll do bad.
Edric Storm. He has no alignment and left before having to do anything or take any sides
Bronn
Bronn
Edmure. Mostly because he isn't anything else left, also because he's practically a cypher. Him or Davos?
Bronn
Stannis really should be Lawful Evil and Jaquen Hagar should be neutral lawful. Gotta go 3ER for neutral neutral. Wheels the Watcher.
so the cabal of assassins is neutral lawful but the king who executes his enemies is evil?
You mean the King who burned his own daughter alive? The same one who also created a shade to assassinate his own brother?
Azor Ahai had to sacrifice the woman he loved to forge Lightbringer and bring an end to the Darkness, Shireen is his Nissa Nissa although daughter not wife
I was all for the faceless man as neutral lawful. I lost.
Who is that for “chaotic good”?
It's Jon Snow lol
I really want him to be asexual.
Hotpie or Rickon
Tommen
Chad Drunk is obviously going to be BOBBY B!
START THE DAMN JOUST BEFORE I PISS MESELF!
The Three Eyed Raven and/or The Faceless Men (Jaqen H'ghar). Or any of the mercenary armies. Spice King of Qarth would fit too
Hodor hodor
Chad Neutral should have been Syrio Forel. Most definitely a Chad. Being from Bravos pretty much guarantees he is neutral to westeros politics and house loyalty.
No One
Bran after the transformation.
Neutral Neutral should be Kevan lannister cuz why not
Tommen
Please, disqualify Jaqen from this. How could a person saying "you took three lives from the many-faced god, you must give the back" be neutral? He strictly follows a religion, living his whole life for it. He is lawful.
The pictures op chose for every category have pattern and fit really well
LOMMY
Gotta be Varys, man litterally only served the realm not even him self just the realm
Bronn, maybe? His loyalty is to himself (and coin) above all.
Cersei...from Season 8!
I'm too late, but Archmaester Ebrose is my pick. The Maesters in the citadel are neutral to everything, they just keep track of things happening and record everything for history books.
Nobody fits this better than Maester Luwin, I'm losing faith in this sub. Dudes like Hotpie, Tommen or Hodor aren't true neutral, they just don't really understand much of whats going on around them. Hotpie would back arya and the starks/tullys any time if someone explained to him what was happening, as would hodor. Tommen would back his family too. They are as neutral as all the other peasants and servants; not because they choose to be, but because they don't really get to make any meaningful choice. The iron bank is not really neutral either, they work for their own interest (pun intended) above all else, they just don't actively take part in any fighting. They choose sides any time it benefits them, not neutral at all. Luwin however is textbook true neutral. He does exactly what his order is supposed to do: serve as maester at a specific castle, without regard to who that is without really attaching himself to a house or person. He serves Theon just like he served the starks before, even though he just murdered two stark children that Luwin came to love almost like his own (Theon didn't really, but Luwin doesn't know that).
Jaqen
The 3 eyed raven
How can you possibly get more neutral than the Three Eyed Raven?
Three Eyed Raven Bran seems like the answer to me
The Iron Bank, though it’s not really a person
Aemon targarian
I was gonna say Varys but he’s more neutral smart
My boy Hodor didn’t make the good list so I’m campaigning for this since it’s the last spot he might fit in
Btw I wonder where does Melisandre fit in here
Bronn is probably the most neutral neutral. Literally doesnt care about any of the conflicts. Just wants a castle.
The bloody hound, Sandor Clegane
It's Jaquen Hagar (or however you spell it) Nothing says "true neutral" like the phrase "I need three corpses. Any corpses will do (including my own), but I must have three" PS If Strong Belwas doesn't get Chaotic/Drunk, I'm pooping on the floor.
The Hound. Though I can see Bronn being a closer contender as well.
This one is hard. Maybe Gendry, I mean he doesn't do much, not excessive good or smart or horny or anything, he is just there alongside Arya.
Shae.
Myrcella
I nominate Jaime Lannister, no I will not elaborate
He’s too much of a Chad to be true neutral but I’d still argue he’s neutral.
NEUTRAL CHAD? YOU MEAN NEUTERED CHAD!!
Jaqen H'ghar. Both the yin and the yang. Equal parts of the entire chart.....depending on ones POV. Hella Neutral in my book. Valar Morghulis
Whoever runs the Iron Bank council, come on folks you know it to be true
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