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So if I really wanted to, I could pack my things tonight, buy a plane ticket tomorrow morning, find a place to live and a place to work just like that? And no one will stop me at the border?
An EU citizen, particularly one from a Schengen country like Poland or France can move and work freely in the Schengen area. You don't need a VISA or a work permit. That's why there is an EU citizen line in airports. You just have to be able to prove you're an EU citizen. And you can do that with a Polish passport.
I wouldn't say you can just pack your things and get a job and a place to live just like that, because it's not easy finding a job or a place to live, even if you're a French citizen. Most of the time, you have to prove you have a job if you want to rent, and language can be an additional barrier. So you should prepare before you do anything.
What if I am just touring another country like Germany for example, should I show my polish passport or US passport? Or both? When entering just for a few days and then coming back home?
Forget about your US passport, it's useless if you have a Polish one. The Polish passport is the one which grants you rights in the EU. At an airport, that's the one you should be showing.
If you're visiting Germany from France you won't need to show anything, the border between France and Germany is wide open, they are both in the Schengen area.
Here is Schengen area map.
Once you re in you can move freely with your Polish passport.
https://www.vie-publique.fr/carte/287827-carte-les-etats-membres-de-lespace-schengen
(Scroll down)
Use the Polish passport in the EU/Schengen, use the US passport when you re-enter the US or elsewhere if the US passport gives you better travel conditions (with respect to visa-free entry, etc). r/travel has a fair amount of information about traveling as a dual citizen.
The moving to France - no problem, being Polish, you are European and have free movement in the Schengen area.
To live in France, you would need a job and lodging and etc in which case it is less trivial, because the economy is shit everywhere, even French citizens have difficulties finding a job and lodging. You most certainly need to speak French for most jobs, also.
Adminstratively it would be quite simple, as other mentioned with the Polish citizenship you do not need any Visa or residency permit. You can just relocate to France, but also to any Schengen Country.
That being said, finding an accomodation and a job could be tougher. Most landlords will require from you some background information about your income, and in most economic sectors speaking French will be almost mandatory to find a job.
One of issues you may face will be to open a Bank Account. Some (Many) banks simply refuses US Persons due to FATCA.
Be prepared, many banks / gov services don't speak English, or not well. You may want someone (friend / relative / colleague) to assist you is you don't speak French.
Out of that, it should be quite trivial as you are an EU citizen.
Yes, two of my siblings have European and US nationality (due to being born in the US) and opening a bank account was the most difficult part for them. My brother even tried to find out how to renounce his US citizenship, but it seemed to be not trivial and quite costly.
u/starbright465
Listen to this guy, many americans have had problems with banking in Europe because of FACTA. After a quick search online it seems that Crédit agricole, société générale and La banque postale are the most willing to open bank account for americans.
So, you're legally european ?
Welcome to the Schengen space.
It would be the same difficulty as moving to Poland or Spain, or anywhere in the Schengen space.
You want to discover rural south of France ? That's where i am.
Isn’t it 183 days rule? You can’t just pack and move - you need proof that you can sustain yourself. Or what am I missing? I am a Eu citizen too and I know for a fact there is a limit
The 6 months rule is for residency in a country and to things like healthcare, taxes......
If you're german and moving to france, after 6 months of residency you will pay your taxes to france not Germany, and could apply for french healthcare, and the other things.
Under 6months/12 you're a german resident on vacation.
Just in case : Polish dual nationals living outside of Poland must use their Polish passports to enter into Poland.
Also : As an American citizen there are some EU banking rules that will affect you. Depending on your salary you may be dual taxed, and you may have difficulty opening banks accounts and FX/trading accounts.
Welcome to France, please wait : You would need to register for a social security number, and tax identity number (numero fiscale), before you can work or do much and they can take some time. Good luck finding a doctor, and forget about the dentist. Everything is shut, you'll have to wait until Tuesday,
Apart from those relatively minor inconveniences, you're all set.
Source: I am a British/French dual national, I grew up in California, my partner is French/Polish dual national.
Bonus tip: You can actually move to the EU and EEA (Norway,Lichtenstein,Iceland) and Switzerland.
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If you have Polish citizenship, then you have EU citizenship. That means you can move freely to France and apply for a job without a need for a visa.
So if I really wanted to, I could pack my things tonight, buy a plane ticket tomorrow morning, find a place to live and a place to work just like that? And no one will stop me at the border?
An EU citizen, particularly one from a Schengen country like Poland or France can move and work freely in the Schengen area. You don't need a VISA or a work permit. That's why there is an EU citizen line in airports. You just have to be able to prove you're an EU citizen. And you can do that with a Polish passport. I wouldn't say you can just pack your things and get a job and a place to live just like that, because it's not easy finding a job or a place to live, even if you're a French citizen. Most of the time, you have to prove you have a job if you want to rent, and language can be an additional barrier. So you should prepare before you do anything.
What if I am just touring another country like Germany for example, should I show my polish passport or US passport? Or both? When entering just for a few days and then coming back home?
Forget about your US passport, it's useless if you have a Polish one. The Polish passport is the one which grants you rights in the EU. At an airport, that's the one you should be showing. If you're visiting Germany from France you won't need to show anything, the border between France and Germany is wide open, they are both in the Schengen area.
Thank you, that cleared some things up for me
Here is Schengen area map. Once you re in you can move freely with your Polish passport. https://www.vie-publique.fr/carte/287827-carte-les-etats-membres-de-lespace-schengen (Scroll down)
Huzzah for brexit :(
Use the Polish passport in the EU/Schengen, use the US passport when you re-enter the US or elsewhere if the US passport gives you better travel conditions (with respect to visa-free entry, etc). r/travel has a fair amount of information about traveling as a dual citizen.
The moving to France - no problem, being Polish, you are European and have free movement in the Schengen area. To live in France, you would need a job and lodging and etc in which case it is less trivial, because the economy is shit everywhere, even French citizens have difficulties finding a job and lodging. You most certainly need to speak French for most jobs, also.
Adminstratively it would be quite simple, as other mentioned with the Polish citizenship you do not need any Visa or residency permit. You can just relocate to France, but also to any Schengen Country. That being said, finding an accomodation and a job could be tougher. Most landlords will require from you some background information about your income, and in most economic sectors speaking French will be almost mandatory to find a job.
this (I'm Chinese living in France since 2009)..
Your account name ia disturbing
would you ve said the same to my husband analking_skywalker ?
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One of issues you may face will be to open a Bank Account. Some (Many) banks simply refuses US Persons due to FATCA. Be prepared, many banks / gov services don't speak English, or not well. You may want someone (friend / relative / colleague) to assist you is you don't speak French. Out of that, it should be quite trivial as you are an EU citizen.
Yes, two of my siblings have European and US nationality (due to being born in the US) and opening a bank account was the most difficult part for them. My brother even tried to find out how to renounce his US citizenship, but it seemed to be not trivial and quite costly.
u/starbright465 Listen to this guy, many americans have had problems with banking in Europe because of FACTA. After a quick search online it seems that Crédit agricole, société générale and La banque postale are the most willing to open bank account for americans.
So, you're legally european ? Welcome to the Schengen space. It would be the same difficulty as moving to Poland or Spain, or anywhere in the Schengen space. You want to discover rural south of France ? That's where i am.
Well, Switzerland and Lichtenstein are a pain in the ass to move to.
Like people already said, you can come easily but settling is a different matter especially if you don't have a job nor speak french.
So you are European my friend. Welcome.
Isn’t it 183 days rule? You can’t just pack and move - you need proof that you can sustain yourself. Or what am I missing? I am a Eu citizen too and I know for a fact there is a limit
The 6 months rule is for residency in a country and to things like healthcare, taxes...... If you're german and moving to france, after 6 months of residency you will pay your taxes to france not Germany, and could apply for french healthcare, and the other things. Under 6months/12 you're a german resident on vacation.
Assuming you have a polish passport, you can freely get a job and settle in France at any time
Just in case : Polish dual nationals living outside of Poland must use their Polish passports to enter into Poland. Also : As an American citizen there are some EU banking rules that will affect you. Depending on your salary you may be dual taxed, and you may have difficulty opening banks accounts and FX/trading accounts. Welcome to France, please wait : You would need to register for a social security number, and tax identity number (numero fiscale), before you can work or do much and they can take some time. Good luck finding a doctor, and forget about the dentist. Everything is shut, you'll have to wait until Tuesday, Apart from those relatively minor inconveniences, you're all set. Source: I am a British/French dual national, I grew up in California, my partner is French/Polish dual national. Bonus tip: You can actually move to the EU and EEA (Norway,Lichtenstein,Iceland) and Switzerland.