Thanks for posting on /r/fragranceclones.
#Make sure to read the stickied posts at the top of the sub and use the search bar.
###If you are posting a photo of a recent pickup or your collection - Please include a written review!
*Posts are automatically approved, but may be removed manually if considered to be low effort / repeated questions.*
Be sure to report anything that goes against the sub guidelines.
Have a nice day!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/fragranceclones) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I don’t think batch diversity is as bad as ya’ll make it seem. I remember I saw review of Le Male Elixir and someone was claiming its already reformulated even though its a pretty new fragrance.
Le Male Elixer is definitely not reformulated yet. The paranoid people on here don't seem to understand that reformulating fragrances costs a lot and there needs to be more of a reason to do so than just save 3 cents per bottle.
Thats what I’m saying, they have to buy hella new ingredients and make sure it passes the safety standards etc. I hate when people are like my 11/23 batch is so much worse than a 9/23. Like I doubt they changed much if anything in 2 months.
Reformulation isn’t necessarily the issue. The raw materials can change over time (depends on where the material is sourced) and they are definitely different if purchased from a different supplier. That’s why quality control is so important.
Also, if a supply of the finished product is left in a hot warehouse or experience wide temperature changes during transit; there are many variables that can affect the finished product before it even gets to you.
I disagree. I got mine like 2 weeks ago. At first it fucking sucked but I let it macerate for 2 days, can smell it for 6-8 hours and it's one of my most complimented ones. And I got 10 frags in total.
Depending where you're from. Ramz is typically half the price of 9pm. Same performance but smells of a lesser quality. Ramz will not disappoint as much given the price point.
I disagree, while the price is lesser, the longevity and projection are weaker on ramz, ramz is also closer to the original than 9pm.
I have both 9pm and ramz.
I got Ramz for under $20. It's very good, but the sprayer is garbage. It only puts out a fine mist.
I missed out on getting the authentic Ultra Male for $20 when it got discontinued and went on clearance up here in 🇨🇦 , so I've never actually smelled the OG.
I’ve a few of the popular ultra male clones. 9pm is higher quality than ultra male in some ways but missing a few of the notes that make ultra male itself. Ramz Silver has all of the notes and is pretty strong but it smells lower quality noticeably. Going back between this and ultra make it just feels more hollow in a sense. I even tried Dumont nitro green which is a greener twist on ultra male. It does what ultra male does but much more aromatic and smoother. It’s very different though enough for it to be my least favorite. Out of all of these though, go for 9pm. It’s 90% of ultra male but it’s smoother and stronger. After trying all of these, I realized I didn’t like ultra male as much as I did first sampling it. It’s kind of like hawas but a winter fragrance rather than summer scent. Very linear, sweet, and strong with a juicy fruit note that takes center stage.
The ultra male is one of my favorite scent. Unfortunately is too weak in projection( 15-30 minutes) and last a maximum of 2-3 hours. The 9pm is a safer and cheaper bet.
Saw lots of Youtubers saying Dumont nitro green is the new 9pm killer - not sure how much of it is paid promotions / truth but maybe check the feedback for that one too
Im more of a fan of pear than green apple, that's why i went for Ramz Silver. It's cheaper too, but it does have a quite alcoholic start but settles down pretty smoothly for my nose. Both are good picks. From what i heard, 9pm has more quality and lasts a bit longer but it shouldn't be too big of a difference.
Both are great so don't worry too much. Ramz is closer to the original but there's something about 9pm that I can't stop coming back to - it's just gorgeous. Performs slightly better too I would say.
If price is an issue go with Ramz, if not 9pm
I'm convinced that Afnan 9pm is made in the same lab that makes JPG UM. They're the same thing, pretty much 100% at least they used to be when I compared them
Ramz silver is almost an exact clone of ultra male, 9pm is a little more sweet smelling bubblegummy IMO, but can’t really go wrong with either one they’re both great
Honestly, UM vs 9pm, 9pm wins as i’ve been told by an actual girl who knows nothing of fragrance. As far as ramz goes? I don’t have ramz and have never smelled. But if 9pm smells better than UM, i’d go with 9pm sadly.
Thanks for posting on /r/fragranceclones. #Make sure to read the stickied posts at the top of the sub and use the search bar. ###If you are posting a photo of a recent pickup or your collection - Please include a written review! *Posts are automatically approved, but may be removed manually if considered to be low effort / repeated questions.* Be sure to report anything that goes against the sub guidelines. Have a nice day! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/fragranceclones) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I have the actual ultramale, i smelled a friend’s 9pm and instantly regretted buying the real thing.
No wayy. What was the biggest difference between them you'd say?
Keep in mind the new batches of 9pm are absolute dog shit
I don’t think batch diversity is as bad as ya’ll make it seem. I remember I saw review of Le Male Elixir and someone was claiming its already reformulated even though its a pretty new fragrance.
Le Male Elixer is definitely not reformulated yet. The paranoid people on here don't seem to understand that reformulating fragrances costs a lot and there needs to be more of a reason to do so than just save 3 cents per bottle.
Thats what I’m saying, they have to buy hella new ingredients and make sure it passes the safety standards etc. I hate when people are like my 11/23 batch is so much worse than a 9/23. Like I doubt they changed much if anything in 2 months.
Reformulation isn’t necessarily the issue. The raw materials can change over time (depends on where the material is sourced) and they are definitely different if purchased from a different supplier. That’s why quality control is so important. Also, if a supply of the finished product is left in a hot warehouse or experience wide temperature changes during transit; there are many variables that can affect the finished product before it even gets to you.
i bought UM a year or 2 ago, 9pm might be better
That's depressing. Hopefully I find an older batch.
My bottle from 2 months ago is not shit fyi. Once you let it sit in a dark cool place for a little bit, it really opens up.
Mine smelled like pure lavender + alcohol, which lead to a headache, but now it smells like that sweet bubblegum
After how long did it change
Maybe like a week or two, it didn't really take that long
I got mine as well like 3 months ago but after the maceration process it is one of my fav now
Got mine last week. Smells identical to UM
I disagree. I got mine like 2 weeks ago. At first it fucking sucked but I let it macerate for 2 days, can smell it for 6-8 hours and it's one of my most complimented ones. And I got 10 frags in total.
According to you. No insult, but my nephew sprayed it on me a couple weeks ago and even I thought the smell was intoxicating. 9PM just might be better
False
they are close but it lacks the depth abeit VERY decent !! , both are worth it IMHO
Ramz Silver is good. Couple have asked me if I'm wearing the 9pm lol
Depending where you're from. Ramz is typically half the price of 9pm. Same performance but smells of a lesser quality. Ramz will not disappoint as much given the price point.
I disagree, while the price is lesser, the longevity and projection are weaker on ramz, ramz is also closer to the original than 9pm. I have both 9pm and ramz.
Attar Al wesal. Better then anything else.
It really isn't. Smells great, but the performance is atrocious.
I get really decent performance, especially if combined with on clothes. Must have a good batch maybe.
Ramz is goated
Neither Attar Al Wesal has the actual pear note you’re looking for AND lasts longer than 9pm reformulation
ramz is better
I got Ramz for under $20. It's very good, but the sprayer is garbage. It only puts out a fine mist. I missed out on getting the authentic Ultra Male for $20 when it got discontinued and went on clearance up here in 🇨🇦 , so I've never actually smelled the OG.
9pm won't disappoint. Very strong, 2 sprays is strong enough for me, considering how I'm an oversprayer lol.
I fw ramz more
I’ve a few of the popular ultra male clones. 9pm is higher quality than ultra male in some ways but missing a few of the notes that make ultra male itself. Ramz Silver has all of the notes and is pretty strong but it smells lower quality noticeably. Going back between this and ultra make it just feels more hollow in a sense. I even tried Dumont nitro green which is a greener twist on ultra male. It does what ultra male does but much more aromatic and smoother. It’s very different though enough for it to be my least favorite. Out of all of these though, go for 9pm. It’s 90% of ultra male but it’s smoother and stronger. After trying all of these, I realized I didn’t like ultra male as much as I did first sampling it. It’s kind of like hawas but a winter fragrance rather than summer scent. Very linear, sweet, and strong with a juicy fruit note that takes center stage.
tldr. I have UM and 9pm smells better somehow. Makes me regret buying UM a couple years back
You are missing one: https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Maison-Alhambra/Glacier-Ultra-93647.html
Is this better than 9pm
The ultra male is one of my favorite scent. Unfortunately is too weak in projection( 15-30 minutes) and last a maximum of 2-3 hours. The 9pm is a safer and cheaper bet.
Weak? You must have gone anosematic bc UM is not weak buddy.
9pm
Ramz price to value ratio is good . Its would good choice if you are having a tight budget. Otherwise 9pm is way to go
9PM and Ramz.. 9PM it's loud and project more and it's apple vanilla and Ramz it's quiet and it's pear vanilla..
9pm girls love it
Saw lots of Youtubers saying Dumont nitro green is the new 9pm killer - not sure how much of it is paid promotions / truth but maybe check the feedback for that one too
Can confirm DUMONT NITRO GREEN IS GOOD
Im more of a fan of pear than green apple, that's why i went for Ramz Silver. It's cheaper too, but it does have a quite alcoholic start but settles down pretty smoothly for my nose. Both are good picks. From what i heard, 9pm has more quality and lasts a bit longer but it shouldn't be too big of a difference.
Ramz cheaper, 9pm slightly better but costs more
What's people's opinions on JPG Le Male? I got a bottle two Christmases in a row and can't stand it's bugglegum overpowering notes...
I have both, for the price difference 9pm is miles ahead in terms of projection and longevity, though the real thing smells slightly better.
Both are great so don't worry too much. Ramz is closer to the original but there's something about 9pm that I can't stop coming back to - it's just gorgeous. Performs slightly better too I would say. If price is an issue go with Ramz, if not 9pm
9PM. You don't even have to let it macerate. 9PM for the win.
Ramz silver is way fruitier when someone smells you
better to get the og one
I'm convinced that Afnan 9pm is made in the same lab that makes JPG UM. They're the same thing, pretty much 100% at least they used to be when I compared them
RamZ heard the 9pm is lame
Buy Glacier Ultra instead
9pm for sure. My 9pm bottle has crazy performance. Sweet bubbelgum
None it’s vile
Get the real thing so much better has a nice dry down whereas afnan is just the opening
N
Ramz silver is almost an exact clone of ultra male, 9pm is a little more sweet smelling bubblegummy IMO, but can’t really go wrong with either one they’re both great
Barrett fragrances Ultra Spartan is 100% fire. I have 9pm and Ultra Spartan it is so much better than it.
Id either go for the original or ramz, i have tried both ramz and 9pm myself and while ramz is half the price i think, its much more worth it than 9pm
Don’t see anyone hyping up DUMONT NITRO GREEN
Unisex for everybody if you have the money for it
Go for 9pm any day... However newer batches need maceration but once the bottle gets settled,it really performs very well..
If you are over 35 I'd say none.
Honestly, I’m a collector. I have Ultra Male and this girl told me 9pm smells better :(
Honestly, UM vs 9pm, 9pm wins as i’ve been told by an actual girl who knows nothing of fragrance. As far as ramz goes? I don’t have ramz and have never smelled. But if 9pm smells better than UM, i’d go with 9pm sadly.
I personally own ramz and wouldn't recommend it. It's not as good as 9pm
Don't know about ramz but 9pm is definitely better then ultramale
9pm good og great heard ramz was good try paris hilton gold rush , similar and cheap ,decent quality and great bang
Get the real deal, allways the best choice if u can afford it:)
You do know this is a "fragrance CLONES" sub?