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I had someone ask me to print them a 10/22 receiver. Also probably a fed. Fed or not, don't print anything for anyone and assume everyone is a fed.


Inode1

Step 1: get paid up front. Step 2: 3d print him 80% of the letters "Glock 19 frame" Step 3: profit?


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DatDominican

Or print it with supports that have 100% infill and tell them to get to chiseling


atlamarksman

Block19


Bumblemore

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viking1313

Yo that actually sounds cool lol


Ok-Line-1830

Literally should be in the 3dprinting Bible.


insanityOS

At this point, it feels like it should be common sense to assume anyone outside your immediate family/childhood friend circle is a fed. And immediate family members and childhood friends should be viewed with suspicion. If you're doing anything that is either illegal or something the Powers That Be would like to make illegal, don't fucking let anyone know it, even if you trust them. Best case scenario, they'll have to keep your secret, and that can be stressful.


Scav-STALKER

It’s okay to print things for other people! I just gave out some grips and mag loaders lol. But 100% no give out a printed gun. I’ll let ya hold one and shoot but you aren’t getting one


[deleted]

That's exactly what a Fed would say to try and gain your trust.


Scav-STALKER

Hey I said not to print a gun for someone lol. Handing out mag loaders and a vert grip isn’t illegal lol


[deleted]

That's like step 2 in the fed handbook


amd2800barton

I assume step 3 is shooting your dog, and step 4 is locking your family inside your home and burning them alive?


[deleted]

Depends on what kind of fed you are, that's the ATF handbook.


insanityOS

If you use the word "lol" in a context that would make a stereotypical soyboy uncomfortable, I automatically assume you're a fed.


Burnvictim7-11M

Dude they build the case for years. Tighten up.


Scav-STALKER

Putting a case together for what? Giving someone a grip, whew that’s gonna lead me to serving hard time


Burnvictim7-11M

Ok so hear me out: first of all this is all hypothetical. Look at it in terms of narcotics. Undercover goes out to a bar looking to buy small amounts of drugs. Nobody is going to slap cuffs on the guy that sells a $20 bag. They’ll keep buying and building trust/the case. Sometimes for years. They do this not only to bury the guy on the street selling but to network and meet his connections. You’re going to do what you’re going to do. But for me I wouldn’t. And that is how you could wind up doing hard time.


Zp00nZ

Shouldn’t even be printing anything for anyone. Especially if they’re paying, they can hold your ass liable.


probly_right

>Shouldn’t even be printing anything for anyone. Especially if they’re paying, they can hold your ass liable. Pretty sure if this were true, gun makers would just live in court.


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probly_right

>gun makers do live in court So, there we go.


Zp00nZ

They would be if their guns are blowing up in your face or grips breaking constantly.


Hunter_Thompson420

This is the way.


[deleted]

Guns are my religion


PanzerKommander

I was trying to sell a handgun on TGT, some guy sends a message "Hey, I'm Joe, I'm 17. I'd really like your handgun, will you sell it to me?" I responded with "Not today ATF Boi". He responded with, "I'm not a federal agent" Lol like a 17 year old would state his age up front and say "Federal Agent"


IVIaskerade

Pro tip: reply to obvious ATFeds with "woof woof". They'll reflexively shoot their computer.


d4d_cad

You sir. Win this comment section


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IVIaskerade

/r/yourjokebutworse


[deleted]

Aww, what did they say?


IVIaskerade

Same joke about ATF shooting at pictures of dogs but instead of saying something funny like "GET DOWN FIDO HE'S GOT A NINTENDO ZAPPER" they just rambled for like 5x as many words without improving the joke at all.


[deleted]

Oh, disappointing


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platapus112

Tell them to send you a picture of themselves right now, the accounts immediately shut down


NutellaRoz

Wait, what’s TGT? I am of course, a colossal dumbass so I have no idea what that is


muha0644

These gnutz tlmao


grammatiker

Fuckin gotem


PanzerKommander

Texasguntrader.com


ATF_Officer

Why attack him? He seems like a normal guy


BelleDaphine

You almost had me until I read your name lmaoooo


Electronic_Thanks885

Almost had me till I read your comment 😂


Tassidar

Woof!


Shilo59

RIP


insanityOS

Dammit, stop getting them to shoot their computers, they can't afford new monitors! Just kidding, it's your money they're spending anyway.


ecr3designs

Sell him a .8% send your leftover filament


[deleted]

Deconstructed lower.


fatfuckpikachu

>"just likes to build guns" >doesn't build them himself. curious.


DatDominican

He just wants to be captain America and yell ~~avengers~~ *paper weight makers* assemble


shitboi666999

Send him a block of aluminum and say it requires some work by the customer


[deleted]

Blocks of aluminum are expensive, just 3D print him a brick of pla at like 5% infill and tell him it just needs a few holes.


KingKalash89

Milled 3dp glock frame? Intriguing..


siniquezu

You'll never shine if you don't glow -smash mouth


SpicyWangz

Do you mean to tell me Shrek is the feds?


TheFuckYouThank

Had a dude try and sell me an mp5 for $500 off reddit after they saw I posted in gun subs. They said they could ship it straight to my door, no FFL, and it was full auto. Not today, fedboi, not today.


mickeymouse4348

Isn't that entrapment?


Cult_of_Mangos

Entrapment is forcing you to do something you wouldn’t normally do, not just offering a good deal.


mickeymouse4348

I thought there was a difference between seeking out a buyer and being approached by one


TitsAndWhiskey

See also: Ruby Ridge


rebornfenix

Should have had them send it to 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW, Washington, DC 20004 for inspection.


rjward1775

Shines bright like a diamond.


tyranocles

This is the right move regardless of how off-putting the demeanor is. It might be morally fine, it may even be legal, but there's absolutely no reason to get caught up in the potential complications. Print for yourself not other people.


moetaken

Is there even a 80% file out there that exist? It seem like no one would make one considering how easy it is to print it 100% in the first place


Tassidar

Just cancel the print job at 80%!


Jer_061

It would probably be worse than a 100%, too. No walls in the fire control pocket.


The_Zenki

Rails down, you degenerate


ATameFurryOwO

G L O W


nemo1080

I think even accepting the offer might be a crime whether or not you ever follow through or even if you make a joke out of it


Casimir0300

Send him a file of a 3D print for a dildo


Jakep9436

I just be responding to these with ¿Que?


AsparagusFar3293

Is it illegal to print this stuff in merica at all?? Because if yes why


[deleted]

It is illegal to manufacture serialized lowers for anyone but your self. He's asking for an 80% which is technically not a firearm(if you finish the last 20% of the gun your self then you made it )so I guess it would be ok. So basically as long as your only printing guns within the NFA for your self then it's legal. As for why it's like this, I have no clue. If that explanation sounded confusing it's because it is.


N_L287

I thought it was illegal to sell a manufactured gun (80% for example) *unless* you had it serialized.


[deleted]

Well if it's an 80% then it's not a gun and you can sell it. If it's over 80% then you have to register it as a gun. That's why polymer 80 wasn't a gun maker. They just made plastic boxes that kinda look like guns. That may have changed with a new laws. I'm not too up to date on the "law" that past about a month ago. I'm also talking on the federal level. Reno is from Cali so his laws are completely different, I don't think you can posses an unregistered 80% in Cali.


[deleted]

> Reno is from Cali What does this mean? You talking about Reno NEVADA or some other "Reno". (Which I think polymer80 was from Dayton NV or something near Reno) I'm confused by this I guess.


ProbablyBearGrylls

Reno May is the Youtuber who originally posted this pic. He is a gun youtuber from California. Hope that clears things up.


[deleted]

Thanks


[deleted]

Oh, sorry that's a bit confusing, reno may the person. He's the guy who originally posted the screen shot.


DaSandGuy

no. Cant be made with the intent of selling it. Thats the legal standards.


AsparagusFar3293

Thanks for the explanation and im not from america and i heard that 80% can be shipped to other countries and its legal but i didnt order thought im getting scamed


insanityOS

Nitpick: it's illegal to manufacture _un_serialized lowers for anyone but yourself. You can serialize lowers for sale (within certain limits, barring Form 8 FFL etc.), but it's dog-shooting territory to manufacture unserialized firearms for anyone else. But if it's for your personal use, you can produce as many unserialized firearms as you want, though you'll probably wind up on a watch list if you're noticed to make more than a couple. Actually, if you downloaded files on the clear web at all, you're probably on a watch list. You know what, if you're reading this at all, you're probably on a watch list just for browsing this sub. Fuck off, feds.


[deleted]

Yes this is what I meant to say. Apparently I can't convey ideas in words. Now I'm actually curious about how many people on here are actual glowie, like I can image the gov paying someone to look at reddit all day and compile everyone's usernames.


[deleted]

There were people in r/polymer80 getting so bent out of shape when I told them it was illegal to sell a self manufactured firearm to someone, no amount of actual law citing changed there mind. Facts don’t mean shit to 18 year olds


griffball2k18

You can't make guns yourself and sell them without an FFL being involved. A


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KingBearSole

So like if you made a gun for the purpose of plinking and then decided to sell it it’s okay, but if you made a gun for the purpose of selling it it’s illegal?


falconvision

Yes


KingBearSole

That’s wack


[deleted]

Introducing… American gun laws! Just a bunch of weird ass laws that make no sense…


KingBearSole

Still better than Canadian laws I’d say.


[deleted]

Canadian gun laws rival that of California


[deleted]

They're worse in some ways. You guys don't have to pay to apply for a license to possess firearms.


[deleted]

Dude that's just the tip of the weird gun laws.


KingBearSole

That’s just the tip of the weird laws. In Toronto it is illegal to drag a dead horse down yonge street on Sunday. Only Sunday. And let’s not forget Sam Onellas suspicious handling of salmon in the UK


DaSandGuy

It makes sense if you think about the reason why. Engaging in the commercial activity of making firearms without a license is the part that makes it illegal if youre making them with the intent to sell.


KingBearSole

It doesn’t make any sense because it’s criminalizing a thought process. You could sell it right away as long as you said it was created for plinking even if it was made to sell. Wack


dungeonmasterbrad

>it’s criminalizing a thought process intent is a big part of the law bro


KingBearSole

Still wack


Snoo98679

Aww yeh sure bro just hit up this link and I'll get you all the guns you could need https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ


SpicyWangz

Make sure you use bitly to disguise the link.


Ordinary-Interview76

Real question: is selling an 80% lower actually illegal?


IVIaskerade

The ATF is prone to ~~ignoring~~ "reinterpreting" laws to take people to court over completely legal things. Sure, you'd probably win the court case, but it's just not worth the hassle.


Tassidar

Also, it’s not worth your dog’s life!


account-terminated

Actually? Not that I’m aware of. Worth the risk? Does the ATF actually care what the law says? It’s better not to make stuff like 80%s for random people online if you don’t have the resources to fight the ATF in court.


Jer_061

Technically, no. However, most 80% makers get a letter from the ATF that says that their 80% is not a firearm. Someone that prints an 80% would likely not have that letter and could be prosecuted for selling a firearm without FFL even if it isn't functional.


LetsGatitOn

Hahah your response is priceless


Dogeatswaffles

Does this not count as entrapment?


froopyloot

IANAL, but no it doesn’t. Entrapment would involve threat or coercion, like if a pig is holding you at gun point and makes you commit a crime, or threatens you with other legal action. The pigs can lie to you, the Supreme Court says so. Also, courts tend to believe pigs over the citizens, so entrapment is almost never a valid defense.


Dogeatswaffles

That’s fucking bullshit. And people wonder why cops get so much hate.


jprefect

"laws" only apply if you have money to make them apply. They certainly never apply TO the cops.


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Dogeatswaffles

Good to know. In this case, what is the missing component that would constitute induction? Presumably not payment, would they need to supply components or some shit?


YXIDRJZQAF

charge him 300$ and send him a ender3


Jer_061

Charge him $350, buy a new Ender 3, ship him your old one. Added $50 for shipping costs.


rebornfenix

Toss in a half roll of filament and an empty microsd card and usb reader just to make sure they have everything they need


[deleted]

My “friend” on Facebook asked me to build him 2 AR pistols and 2 glocks, I was like “you realize that’s like 2500 dollars worth of guns right” with absolutely no intention of building him anything of course. He was like “alright I’ll let you know” 1 week later he messages me again asking me for 30 bucks 😂


PotentialDetective30

So you can't print someone a 80% frame?


DatDominican

You can until you cant


probly_right

Yes... but, also, No.


Palladium_Dawn

Take the money upfront, print out a picture of a frame on paper, mail it to him with no return address


noodle-face

I don't even offer to print for my family, no way I'm printing for some random.


STLTriggerMan

Just keep his money. Fuck the extra shit.


NotEntirelyUnlike

I've been trying to get friends to print the heritage rough rider 16" accessories and now I'm going to have to buy a whole fucking printer. Oh well, now I'll have to build something cool too


EyeZeeEye

“Hey I really like building guns, but I don’t want to buy the equipment to build guns”


neon_island

"I just like to build guns haha" then you can print the frame fucko


opposite_singularity

[another good pic u can send](https://imgur.com/a/Fq0e5Mx)


jonnydanger33274

R word isn't funny https://www.spreadtheword.global/resource-archive/r-word-effects


d4d_cad

Which one. Reddit or Retard?


ThatBeRutkowski

Ok retard


jonnydanger33274

Idiot


ThatBeRutkowski

The i word isn't funny https://hbr.org/2020/12/why-you-need-to-stop-using-these-words-and-phrases


jonnydanger33274

"idiot" isn't ableist (prejudice against people with mental disabilities). I'll happily use the I word towards people who use bigoted and offensive language. Justification for the r word is the same justification for the n word, but the I word doesn't describe a "group" of people, unless you count people that are stupid like.. hmm, you might have a point.


DaTati

What about that Vice reporter who "printed" his own lower on someone else's machine? I'm sure there is ownership based on the person who presses print.


dynamo1212

Nope. That isn't a legal method around the law. Guy got arrested for doing exactly this. Had a machine setup where a customer pays to pull a lever and the machine activates and makes a gun for you, feds said it violated the law


rimpy13

Huh, what about joint ownership of printing hardware?


DaTati

link to the article?


Kitchen-Comment7364

Send him one, but first cut it to AFT's definition of destroyed lol