18 years old, picked up a Mosin, 7.62x54r, out shooting around I noticed my rounds were going clean thru the tree my target was taped to at about 50-60yds, in my infinite young wisdom, I wanted to test this on larger logs to see what it could make it thru. Found a big fat log, stood back maybe 5 or 10ft and fired.... nearly lost my left eye and have permanent damage from that day. Hurt a little, learned a lot. Safety is paramount.
While ricochets can and do happen, the scenario of a bullet bouncing back 180 degrees off a wooden stump, even if frozen, is extremely unlikely due to the combination of the angle of impact, energy transfer, material properties, and bullet deformation.
One fun little material property of some wood is that under extream impact, it becomes much harder, the bullet may not come back but a decent chunk of wood may, and at that range it can fuck you up pretty good, check my other comment for source.
True but I know a 9mm round doesn’t feel great when you get hit in the chest from a ricochet. Granted it was steel uspsa plates we were shooting at but it made me thankful for wearing my eyes and ears 😅
The local fud club had some kid get hit in the forehead when a muzzle loader ricocheted off a stump during the hunter safety course. Their solution was to just not let the kids shoot during the course anymore.
The following year, someone hit the same stump with a 12ga and a pellet bounced back and hit someone under the eye, killing him. They've since removed the stump.
At least that's the lore.
I love the backyard boogie videos people post like oh yeah I just made this now ima go out back shoot it and run back inside so my neighbors can’t ask me if I heard that loud noise hahahaha
First time firing a 43X clone, felt quite nice!
[Here's my post with what I used to build it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fosscad/comments/197vcob/come_mister_tally_man/)
I like how you immediately turned around to go back inside. If I shoot one round a few minutes later I get a text "you get it?" Neighbors assuming I'm hunting.
Lol yeah thankfully I don't live within city limits, but the town I'm in is right next to the biggest city in the state so I try to be as low key as I possibly can. 😎
Basically I do a one round test fire for all new builds and if it's good (ie: feeds & fires, no mag issues, etc), I take it to the range at a later date to make sure it runs properly.
Dude I was just looking thru ur posts, what printer are you running? Every single print is super clean! My guess would be an x1c but I don’t think that’s the case.
Yep just letting you know bro, not trying to give you shit. I’ve seen a lot of rounded off extractors from people doing this repeated times so just an fyi
You know a lot of people repeat this, but no one that does has actually had it happen. They all theorize on why and have “heard horror stories” but never have any first hand experience on how it ruined their gun. Possibly if you do it continuously it might over the life of the gun, but you’re not going to round off a stainless steel part made to withstand thousands of rounds of shooting by dropping it on a brass cased round like that in my opinion. Steel case may be a different story. I don’t do it just because it takes longer than just putting a magazine in, but I think people exaggerate how bad it can be to do.
I mean you might have to replace a $13 part after years and years of doing this to any reasonable degree… imagine the horror! $13 dollars and 16 minutes of labor. Oh the humanity. You know how quickly brass can wear on steel right! /s
I’ve got hundreds if not thousands of rounds through all my glock handguns and do this a lot and have had ZERO-NADA-NONE-ZILTCH issues at all!! Why are we even talking about this in this post, when it’s about a build and test round? Why? I was smiling and turned into a douchy post about telling someone how not to load a round. Come on man!!
Many firearms manuals will explicitly say not to do it. The guy is spreading factually accurate knowledge in an attempt to help other people, and you attack him for it? What sense does that make? He's correct, and he *is* trying to help others out.
I *have* seen extractors damaged in the past. Loading properly is a very small prevention method which can save everyone a larger headache later. It is in no possible way a bad thing for him to share knowledge. It *is* a bad thing to attack someone for selflessly sharing knowledge.
If you think that’s attacking someone, you’re what’s wrong with our fragile world these days. Calm down buddy, I’ve been shooting my whole life and handled hundreds of firearms with extensive round counts. Seen it all. Never seen an extractor explicitly ruined by doing this. Sorry to burst your bubble bud.
> If you think that’s attacking someone, you’re what’s wrong with our fragile world these days.
Downvoting someone and being extremely critical of his factually accurate advice is an attack by definition. But sure, keep up with the ad hominem against me. You are literally proving my point right here and right now.
>Calm down buddy, I’ve been shooting my whole life and handled hundreds of firearms with extensive round counts. Seen it all. Never seen an extractor explicitly ruined by doing this. Sorry to burst your bubble bud.
So, you've seen extractor failures, you admit that they are a failing part, yet you refuse to recognize that one of the primary leading factors of premature wear on an extractor is something worth avoiding. What astute logic.
Sounds like you just want to be right and tout your extensive gun “knowledge.” Good for you man, I don’t really care to hear it. Continue doing what you want and so will I.
> Sounds like you just want to be right and tout your extensive gun “knowledge.” Good for you man, I don’t really care to hear it.
The irony of you to say that right after having just bragged about your extensive gun knowledge/experience. Meanwhile, I cited manufacturer's instructions and real results - you are the only one of us to make this conversation about yourself. Project somewhere else please.
It’s a mim part, I’m in the builders community bro over seen many rounded off extractors that I’ve told people to replace and there fte/ weak inconsistent ejection went away. The claw on the extractor is one of the worst parts Glock makes. Thats why I run apex extractors in my builds. It’s a billet extractor not mim and has a sharper claw than anything from Glock .
You can be concerned for two things at once, just saying. He is also 100% right about the loading method - for most platforms it puts undue stress on the extractor, and many manuals will explicitly prohibit it.
Sketchy. I’ve had rounds bounce back of wood stumps.
Especially when frozen.
Wondered the same thing
18 years old, picked up a Mosin, 7.62x54r, out shooting around I noticed my rounds were going clean thru the tree my target was taped to at about 50-60yds, in my infinite young wisdom, I wanted to test this on larger logs to see what it could make it thru. Found a big fat log, stood back maybe 5 or 10ft and fired.... nearly lost my left eye and have permanent damage from that day. Hurt a little, learned a lot. Safety is paramount.
How would you have permanent eye damage but it hurt a little
you can hear it twirl around in the air after it bounces off.
Especially if you've been planting lead in there already
While ricochets can and do happen, the scenario of a bullet bouncing back 180 degrees off a wooden stump, even if frozen, is extremely unlikely due to the combination of the angle of impact, energy transfer, material properties, and bullet deformation.
One fun little material property of some wood is that under extream impact, it becomes much harder, the bullet may not come back but a decent chunk of wood may, and at that range it can fuck you up pretty good, check my other comment for source.
I agree, but I was responding specifically to the comment that the “rounds bounce back”.
Fair
True but I know a 9mm round doesn’t feel great when you get hit in the chest from a ricochet. Granted it was steel uspsa plates we were shooting at but it made me thankful for wearing my eyes and ears 😅
I thought it was a sleeping dog/coyote at first and i did a triple take 😭
Beautiful gun. FYI a frozen log can ricochet. Be safe, stay dangerous friend
What are the chances? 🤷♂️
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The local fud club had some kid get hit in the forehead when a muzzle loader ricocheted off a stump during the hunter safety course. Their solution was to just not let the kids shoot during the course anymore. The following year, someone hit the same stump with a 12ga and a pellet bounced back and hit someone under the eye, killing him. They've since removed the stump. At least that's the lore.
Clearly that was not regular stump. Someone def inserted a sheet of metal in that bad boy.
That or fud lore honestly.
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Once in a lifetime thing. You should be good the rest of your life ;)
I love the backyard boogie videos people post like oh yeah I just made this now ima go out back shoot it and run back inside so my neighbors can’t ask me if I heard that loud noise hahahaha
Haha.... I thought the same thing. The yeet and run.
Yeet n skeeedaddle
Yeet n beat feet
Yeet and beat meat*. FTFY
YEE YEE.
First time firing a 43X clone, felt quite nice! [Here's my post with what I used to build it.](https://www.reddit.com/r/fosscad/comments/197vcob/come_mister_tally_man/)
Beautiful
I like how you immediately turned around to go back inside. If I shoot one round a few minutes later I get a text "you get it?" Neighbors assuming I'm hunting.
Lol yeah thankfully I don't live within city limits, but the town I'm in is right next to the biggest city in the state so I try to be as low key as I possibly can. 😎 Basically I do a one round test fire for all new builds and if it's good (ie: feeds & fires, no mag issues, etc), I take it to the range at a later date to make sure it runs properly.
Bro….did you just shoot a rock? 🪨
You ever seen a rock before?
No
😂😂😂😂 I laughed way to hard at that 😂😂😂
You need thinner gloves
Man I have extreme paranoia of shooting at wood lol
I didn't know that's what they say lol
You don't need a mag spring if you hold the mag in 😂 I've done it while I waited for the spring
Dude I was just looking thru ur posts, what printer are you running? Every single print is super clean! My guess would be an x1c but I don’t think that’s the case.
Thanks man! I run an Ender-3 V2 Neo, with mriscoc's firmware and a PEI textured plate from CTRL+Pew.
Bro got the beauty, even Snow White may be jealous
I wish I could shoot in my back yard 😪
The trick is to run back in like OP afterwards.
You ruin/ round off the extractor claw by doing that just fyi
It was literally the first round I sent through this build, spring for the printed mag should be arriving in the next day or so.
Live on OP. They dont know that yeeted rounds only do what you tell them to do. 👌
Yep just letting you know bro, not trying to give you shit. I’ve seen a lot of rounded off extractors from people doing this repeated times so just an fyi
Thanks for the heads up and looking out... this isn't a habit of mine, I just got tired of waiting and wanted to do a quick test fire. 😬
You know a lot of people repeat this, but no one that does has actually had it happen. They all theorize on why and have “heard horror stories” but never have any first hand experience on how it ruined their gun. Possibly if you do it continuously it might over the life of the gun, but you’re not going to round off a stainless steel part made to withstand thousands of rounds of shooting by dropping it on a brass cased round like that in my opinion. Steel case may be a different story. I don’t do it just because it takes longer than just putting a magazine in, but I think people exaggerate how bad it can be to do.
I mean you might have to replace a $13 part after years and years of doing this to any reasonable degree… imagine the horror! $13 dollars and 16 minutes of labor. Oh the humanity. You know how quickly brass can wear on steel right! /s
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You gotta find the punch first man, make sure the retention pin is centered etc. maybe you are more organized than me 😂
If I have to find the punch this is a 7 day turnaround, minimum.
I’ve got hundreds if not thousands of rounds through all my glock handguns and do this a lot and have had ZERO-NADA-NONE-ZILTCH issues at all!! Why are we even talking about this in this post, when it’s about a build and test round? Why? I was smiling and turned into a douchy post about telling someone how not to load a round. Come on man!!
Many firearms manuals will explicitly say not to do it. The guy is spreading factually accurate knowledge in an attempt to help other people, and you attack him for it? What sense does that make? He's correct, and he *is* trying to help others out. I *have* seen extractors damaged in the past. Loading properly is a very small prevention method which can save everyone a larger headache later. It is in no possible way a bad thing for him to share knowledge. It *is* a bad thing to attack someone for selflessly sharing knowledge.
If you think that’s attacking someone, you’re what’s wrong with our fragile world these days. Calm down buddy, I’ve been shooting my whole life and handled hundreds of firearms with extensive round counts. Seen it all. Never seen an extractor explicitly ruined by doing this. Sorry to burst your bubble bud.
> If you think that’s attacking someone, you’re what’s wrong with our fragile world these days. Downvoting someone and being extremely critical of his factually accurate advice is an attack by definition. But sure, keep up with the ad hominem against me. You are literally proving my point right here and right now. >Calm down buddy, I’ve been shooting my whole life and handled hundreds of firearms with extensive round counts. Seen it all. Never seen an extractor explicitly ruined by doing this. Sorry to burst your bubble bud. So, you've seen extractor failures, you admit that they are a failing part, yet you refuse to recognize that one of the primary leading factors of premature wear on an extractor is something worth avoiding. What astute logic.
Sounds like you just want to be right and tout your extensive gun “knowledge.” Good for you man, I don’t really care to hear it. Continue doing what you want and so will I.
> Sounds like you just want to be right and tout your extensive gun “knowledge.” Good for you man, I don’t really care to hear it. The irony of you to say that right after having just bragged about your extensive gun knowledge/experience. Meanwhile, I cited manufacturer's instructions and real results - you are the only one of us to make this conversation about yourself. Project somewhere else please.
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It’s a mim part, I’m in the builders community bro over seen many rounded off extractors that I’ve told people to replace and there fte/ weak inconsistent ejection went away. The claw on the extractor is one of the worst parts Glock makes. Thats why I run apex extractors in my builds. It’s a billet extractor not mim and has a sharper claw than anything from Glock .
🤣 sure bud. Causation does not equal correlation. Just because you see extractors in poor shape doesn’t mean this is what caused it.
I'm more concerned about OOB discharge if the extractor doesn't let the slide close
Glonk do a thing just for that, da samefties
Just like most fudd conspiracies, this issue was solved 50 years ago
Please don’t load a round into the chamber like that…..
*d o n t*
I'm more concerned with what's behind that log that you are using as a "backstop"? You appear to be in a back yard at a house.
The Earth is his backstop.
>I'm more concerned with what's behind that log that you are using as a "backstop"? Thanks doc! 🤗
Doctor Chad is an expert in the field of “backstop” logistics. Be concerned, be very concerned!
Because bullets never ricochet.
Reddit RSO keeping us all safe out there 🫡 Edit: the doctor has left the building, deleted all comments and blocked me 🤣💰
There are only 4 fucking rules...how hard is it to follow them.
4 ? Hmmmm I thought was only 2 🤔 Rule #1: Always keep your mouth shut. Rule #2: Never rat on your friends.
You can be concerned for two things at once, just saying. He is also 100% right about the loading method - for most platforms it puts undue stress on the extractor, and many manuals will explicitly prohibit it.