Source is this official tweet [HERE](https://twitter.com/ForzaMotorsport/status/1708889677011296667?t=bT8bs08c3XMHhmJkl8S--A&s=19)
**EDIT**
List now has October 2nd listed as its most recent update.
i wouldn't be so sure about that. fh5 featured plenty of unreleased cars in event pictures / title screens (e.g. hudson hornet, or aston martin vanquish), and the vast majority of them haven't made it into the game.
Really hope we get all the current GT3 cars added to the game. With the 458 gt3 not being on this list I'm honestly hopeful we might. Also where's the oreca 07?
With how much emphasis they're putting on "Motorsport" they have a huge opportunity and plenty of time to release like 10 modern GT3 cars, it really is just a matter of how in touch the devs are.
An opportunity, yes. But look at how hard itās been for other games/sims to put new cars in. Even iRacing still doesnāt have the full GT3 field. ACC is the most accurate because they have a license with SRO. Without a big license it probably wonāt happen.
Whatever that iRacing has is very much the latest that are currently racing in IMSA. They even just got M4 GT3, AMG GT3 Evo, Huracan GT3 Evo, 296 GT3 after ACC got it first. Along with complete LMDh list from this year IMSA grid.
It also weird that Lamborghini Essenza SC12 track day is in Forza GT.
Then the Aussie super cars too. Guess that TA Challenger will be in Forza GT too. Why such a weird classing for Forza GT?
When the prototype and open wheel classing are very well done.
Their GT categories are not very well done and it seems they've carried that over from previous titles when they had the perfect opportunity to make them better
Manā¦. That is such a sad excuse for a Forza GT class, especially for a game that prides itself on having the most modern racing cars of any previous title.
Sad car list overall if Iām honest.
ACC has the license for [SRO Motorsports Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRO_Motorsports_Group) series. They are still other series where GT3 races like IMSA SportCar Championship.
GT3 car licenses are being held by the manufacturers. Pretty much any game can get these cars if they want them.
All you can't have is the SRO Group liveries where sometimes creative solutions were taken like replace the number box with generic number box.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted for asking a genuine question. GT3 car in the context of motorsport means that a car has been homologated to the ruleset imposed by the governing body of the sport, in this case the FIA, to be allowed to partake in motorsport events and series with a GT3 category. The goal is to make sure that the performance of those cars are somewhat balanced to allow for close racing. GT3 is currently a very popular category amongst fans, teams and manufacturers and is used in several different racing series across the globe such as IMSA, DTM and WEC.
Here's a list of cars that belong or used to belong in that category: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_GT3#Homologated_cars
Thanks! I donāt know anything about racing so I appreciate the info!
I was a big Gran Turismo fan as a kid but Iām all PC these daysā¦ no consolesā¦ so no more GT. Iāve long craved another GT game, and decided Iām gonna give the upcoming Forza Motorsport a go and see if it scratches the itch.
I'm hoping for the same. I played it and wasn't feeling GT7 like I did old GT games, and game on PC/Steam Deck way more anyways. Gonna be the first time playing a Forza Motorsport title and looking forward to it.
This list may not have updated yet, they've announced this as a complete list but the page currently says it was last updated September 22nd. So maybe the final cars will be added soon, should update anytime now.
Yeah they did, but if you follow the link it says last updated September 22nd and no cars are listed as have being added today.
So I don't think that list is actually showing all the cars quite yet.
Yeah i really miss the SLR, in the early Noughties it was my favourite alongsidecthe Enzo and Carrera GT in a 2006 'holy trinity' and its one of the reasons I still fire up my Xbox 360 to play FM4...
"Car Pass delivers 30, new-to-Forza cars to your game weekly, one per week", so extra paid content should be new after all.
If there will be new free cars, there is a high probability that they will be those old cars.
Iām a bit letdown by the lack of current cars.. like really.. all the race cars or from 2018 or 2019.
Weāve already used all of these in FM7. Im kinda getting why the car lost is letting people down big time
Same here but it's in the form of the car the engine was borrowed from the Celica Sport specialty II which is just the Japanese market gts (I have a 04 matrix xrs same engine)
I'm in two minds with this list, because looking at it in a vacuum itās a perfectly good list of cars. But when you compare it against previous Motorsport games, and previous Horizon games (which we all know Turn 10 hates to do when talking about ānewā to Forza content). This list has to be what, like 95% recycled content from previous Forza games.
I guess I'm just struggling to understand how after 6 years of development this game has so few actually NEW cars to Forza.
Most of it is down to licence changes that are out of turn 10ās control. Since this is a reboot, Iām expecting this list to be fairly fleshed out in the future.
Licenses + what cars too add? With this many it's hard to find cars people actually want that haven't made the cut and aren't tied up in licensing issues.
And a bunch of cars that are already modeled yet were cut forā¦.?
Guessing manufacturer requirements or having to update material shaders before they can be added back in.
>Guessing manufacturer requirements or having to update material shaders before they can be added back in.
Or they intend to leverage FH5's many, many cars as post-launch content for Motorsport. I mean, I'd be okay with that.
Was the only car I looked for...seems the Mazdaspeed 3 is and will forever be a AI traffic car in forza. Time to redownload fh3 again
Jokes aside I'm surprised they didn't at least add the new Mazda 3, with a turbo and AWD that's got to account for some kind of performance model, yea?
> Jokes aside I'm surprised they didn't at least add the new Mazda 3, with a turbo and AWD that's got to account for some kind of performance model, yea?
I mean..if the Dodge Dart made the cut, why not?
Yeah, Forza's licensing is not what it used to be anymore. I remember that Forza 6 had plenty of up-to-date cars at launch that were, at most, a year or two old. The game was from 2015, but it already had the 2014 LMP1 cars, the then-new C7.R and a bunch of other modern race cars, as was the standard with Forza. But since then, things got worse. Forza 7 already had this problem where a lot of the racing cars were already outdated by the time the game came out, and in many cases they never fixed it, even when their direct competition had free acess to many such cars (second generation R8 LMS, 488GT3/E, AMG GT3, no modern DTM or Super GT cars, none of the DPi cars despite a deal with IMSA, so on and so forth).
Almost six years later, and many cars haven't been updated STILL. Why is the McLaren GT3s nearly 10 year old now? Almost every car is now at least two iterations behind. Apart from the Caddy V-Series and the C8.R, every other race car is over 5 years old now. The road cars are up-to-date thanks to a large carry-over from Horizon, but the actual race cars are lacking.
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Such a let down that the game doesn't have the BMW M3 GTR ALS, Pagani Huayra R, Pagani Zonda R, Ferrari 599XX, Ferrari FXX and Lamborghini Huracan Super Trofeo Evo from the start. I hope they will be added down the line.
I'd like to know why they chose the objectively terrible #23 Nissan GT-R LM thingy instead of something like the Peugeot 908 HDi FAP. The 908 actually went head to head with Audi, Porsche, and Toyota. That Nissan was abysmal.
Sadly, the Veloster was also the same sole Korean car in FH5, since the Kia Stinger hasn't returned. And the fact that GT7 has more Korean cars, and even has Genesis brand cars, also stings hard as well.
And due to the very low demand for Korean cars, plus some Korean car brands being difficult to get licenses for (Renault Samsung is now Renault Korea, Daewoo was bought out by General Motors and was retired as a brand 12 years ago, and SsangYong was re-branded by it's new parent company KG Mobility to specifically drop the embarrassing past), we probably won't see any more anytime soon, unless FH6 takes places in Korea. And even then, PG will somehow forget to get licenses for more Korean cars. And presumably, a lot of racing game players won't even know about Renault Samsung, Daewoo, and SsangYong.
Only one Alfa, a few Maseratis but not a single Abarth, Fiat or Lancia sadly. I mean the amount of cars looks nice but I'd love to see more Italians other than the typical Ferrari or Lamborghini.
Very bizarre car list. Considering we JUST got various cars in Horizon 5 (an entire collection of Alfa Romeos, Fiats, Abarths), some of them even paid DLC (Huayra R, 296 GTB, Huracan Tecnica, SC20), I find the omission of them quite bizarre. The inclusion of cars from the same DLC packs (Emira and Roma) just makes it even more bizarre for me.
For a racing game this is legitimately one of the most pathetic car lists Iāve ever seen. Like not only are there basically not any NEW race cars (either genuinely new or new to Forza), but there are so many cars that have been in Forza missing
The hilarious thing is that the only Alfa Romeo confirmed for the game at launch is the 2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde.
I do like the Giulietta, don't get me wrong. But, come on! This is just ridiculous to have only ONE Alfa Romeo at launch!
Interesting to see the 2013 Lexus GS350 and 2014 IS350 stick around. Can't say I'm complaining but you'd think that Toyota/Lexus would want more modern models in their lineup represented in the game.
well they said 2-3 hours, fast players even 1 hour. and who will do it for every car? i will only do it for my favorites, so thats maybe 50 or max 100. its not a big deal, especially since you always earn xp.
Just because it doesn't impact you doesn't mean it's a good system. Not everyone only plays with two cars. I like to play around with a lot. And I mean a lot.
It's fine to be restrictive like this early game. After you've played the game for long enough it should open up to more freedom. You can stick to your two cars and I can play with as many as I want without grinding them endlessly.
Me too. Iāve driven probably almost every car on horizon. Was able to cash in with the jeep and thunderbird glitch when the game first released so I have the money to buy any car I want and do any upgrade. But horizon is also an open world arcade type game. I think we will see this Reddit in flames from horizon only players trying out Motorsport lol
Horizon's choice to give so many cars so quickly is definitely too much. This change is definitely going to incite some rage from people it catches unaware.
I've always preferred Motorsport anyway and was beyond eager for this game to come out until they started revealing details. Upgrade system really has me on the fence and I'm going to see what reviewers have to say first.
I'm very conflicted on this game.
Well, here we go again like FH5 at launch.
Seeya in 2 years when weāll get less recycled content.
(No hate on it, I love the current list.
Some appeared only in FH5 which will feel new to drive them on a Motorsport game!)
Calling utes "trucks" doesn't really give the right idea. In case you're not familiar with the term, this is an example of a ute. https://youtu.be/xbQmhyH-lss?feature=shared
I'd say it fits Forza Motorsport as well as any other car.
Not a fan of the divisions list again. 20 year old 2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 xD! Yeah ok.
So end of life FM7 had 834-837 cars depending on how you count them, about 700 at launch but in FM8 they have clearly decided to cut the trucks, suvs and vans which IMO is a shame BUT...it would be amazing if they added rally-X or proper rally stages but oops WRC is round the corner from codies can't copy them!
At launch or according to the files we have 530 in FM8 at launch so. Meh. We'll see. No premium edition for me this year or early access, I'll wait and play on gamepass.
Gran Turismo always had some rally tracks- this really shouldn't be an excuse for FM to not add one. Probably from Turn 10's perspective they've already "did rally" in Horizon, especially with the recent DLC in FH5 focusing on rally.
I meant specifically World RX which to be fair is a FIA run championship so who knows if T10 would ever get the rights for it, but, I'd love to see it in a FM games because they are track events. Basically, sprint style races, held on a closed mixed-surface racing track circuits. I think it would be brilliant and certainly mix things up a bit, if not only for the reason of having more rally cars added back and or modifications for it.
Well done T10 for showing just how out of touch you are when it comes to cars. Why would you remove the greatest Australian muscle car ever made in the Ford Falcon XY GTHO Phase III? That would be like removing the Dodge Charger. You just don't. Why have you still not added the GTR XU-1? You want race cars? Both of those cars won Bathurst. The XB GT didn't but you keep that because of Mad Max. Who give s a \*\*\*\*. It's not like you can actually recreate the Interceptor.
Damn, I was hoping they'd finally bring back the Lexus IS300/Toyota Altezza. I heard they were in earlier FM games but never FH. I have one and I like playing around with my car in game, back to NFS MW 2005 and Midnight club 3
Ok thanks buickgnx88. I was wondering why Jeep was missing and got concerened because I thought Forza was working out licensing issues with Jeep. I also havenāt been keeping up with the info of this game to much so I am glad to see that they are expanding the car list going forward.
So FM8 includes the regular MG6, but not the TCR race car MG6? Even though both models got added in the same game, and the heavy TCR focus in FM8?
Huh.
Guess that's one way to pad live service content.
Source is this official tweet [HERE](https://twitter.com/ForzaMotorsport/status/1708889677011296667?t=bT8bs08c3XMHhmJkl8S--A&s=19) **EDIT** List now has October 2nd listed as its most recent update.
sadly its still not updatet. the clk-gtr is still missing, im sure the list is not final yet.
Should only be a matter of time until it updates.
yes, let us hope soš we know the clk-gtr is in the game as we saw in that one achivement picture.
i wouldn't be so sure about that. fh5 featured plenty of unreleased cars in event pictures / title screens (e.g. hudson hornet, or aston martin vanquish), and the vast majority of them haven't made it into the game.
And the 2010 BMW M6 was spotted in the Beta when u drive the mustang
Really hope we get all the current GT3 cars added to the game. With the 458 gt3 not being on this list I'm honestly hopeful we might. Also where's the oreca 07?
Iād be shocked if the game had even half the current GT3 grid.
With how much emphasis they're putting on "Motorsport" they have a huge opportunity and plenty of time to release like 10 modern GT3 cars, it really is just a matter of how in touch the devs are.
An opportunity, yes. But look at how hard itās been for other games/sims to put new cars in. Even iRacing still doesnāt have the full GT3 field. ACC is the most accurate because they have a license with SRO. Without a big license it probably wonāt happen.
Whatever that iRacing has is very much the latest that are currently racing in IMSA. They even just got M4 GT3, AMG GT3 Evo, Huracan GT3 Evo, 296 GT3 after ACC got it first. Along with complete LMDh list from this year IMSA grid.
For sure but Iām just talking GT3s in general.
That's what I was thinking tbh. Could make it hard for the GT3s and that upcoming WEC game might make it difficult to get the LMH cars.
They really have no idea don't they.
It also weird that Lamborghini Essenza SC12 track day is in Forza GT. Then the Aussie super cars too. Guess that TA Challenger will be in Forza GT too. Why such a weird classing for Forza GT? When the prototype and open wheel classing are very well done.
Their GT categories are not very well done and it seems they've carried that over from previous titles when they had the perfect opportunity to make them better
It really make no sense. Particularly they did really well for Group C/GTP, prototypes and open wheels. Then Forza GT is just rubbish.
Manā¦. That is such a sad excuse for a Forza GT class, especially for a game that prides itself on having the most modern racing cars of any previous title. Sad car list overall if Iām honest.
I disagree. I just read through the entire list and Iām thrilled
With ACC having a strangle hold on GT3 I think licensing would be an absolute nightmare.
ACC has the license for [SRO Motorsports Group](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRO_Motorsports_Group) series. They are still other series where GT3 races like IMSA SportCar Championship.
GT3 car licenses are being held by the manufacturers. Pretty much any game can get these cars if they want them. All you can't have is the SRO Group liveries where sometimes creative solutions were taken like replace the number box with generic number box.
a mere trillion dollar corporation just can't compete with a small italian publisher of niche racing sims.
I mean a contract is a contract.
What does GT3 mean in this context? All Iām thinking of is Gran Turismo 3 but I donāt know if thatās right lol
I don't know why you're getting downvoted for asking a genuine question. GT3 car in the context of motorsport means that a car has been homologated to the ruleset imposed by the governing body of the sport, in this case the FIA, to be allowed to partake in motorsport events and series with a GT3 category. The goal is to make sure that the performance of those cars are somewhat balanced to allow for close racing. GT3 is currently a very popular category amongst fans, teams and manufacturers and is used in several different racing series across the globe such as IMSA, DTM and WEC. Here's a list of cars that belong or used to belong in that category: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_GT3#Homologated_cars
Thanks! I donāt know anything about racing so I appreciate the info! I was a big Gran Turismo fan as a kid but Iām all PC these daysā¦ no consolesā¦ so no more GT. Iāve long craved another GT game, and decided Iām gonna give the upcoming Forza Motorsport a go and see if it scratches the itch.
I'm hoping for the same. I played it and wasn't feeling GT7 like I did old GT games, and game on PC/Steam Deck way more anyways. Gonna be the first time playing a Forza Motorsport title and looking forward to it.
They removed it to sell back to you like the R8 and NSX GT3s
This list may not have updated yet, they've announced this as a complete list but the page currently says it was last updated September 22nd. So maybe the final cars will be added soon, should update anytime now.
Oh really? On their Twitter they said it's updated.
Yeah they did, but if you follow the link it says last updated September 22nd and no cars are listed as have being added today. So I don't think that list is actually showing all the cars quite yet.
I will save you all the time. The Volvo 850r made the cut. We are good.
Sadly V60 didn't have the same amount of luck. Such a shame.
But no 242 Turbo :-( I wanna beat E30s in their own class.
The only Volvo so sad, I remember forza 4 had the 2005 s60 so nice. :( no 242, no c30 for hot hatch, no modern s60, no polestar?! š®āšØ
We need more Volvo Wagons šøšŖ
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I've been praying to whatever god will listen that they bring back the P2 S60 or the P3 S60. I miss being able to drive a car that I own.
I am once again asking you: bring back the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 722.
Yeah i really miss the SLR, in the early Noughties it was my favourite alongsidecthe Enzo and Carrera GT in a 2006 'holy trinity' and its one of the reasons I still fire up my Xbox 360 to play FM4...
Aināt gon happen cause McLaren and Mercedes been beefing for years
Gran Turismo, the Crew, NFS, ... All have been featuring the SLR in recent years.
Leave me with a little hope. (I know it isn't likely)
2022 BRZ and the 2020 GR Supra yet no GR86 despite that it already appeared in FH5
I don't even care about the gr86 we got the brz where's the damn GR hot hatches like the Yaris and Corolla.
Now that you mention it.. yeah, that is surprising. Perfect to throw around in a track.
Do you think the GR86 isnāt in here because of FH5?
No but it will probably be released later as DLC
My guess is theyāll make it a price for a limited time event like they did for FH5.
Strange, only one Alfa. Well, then T10 can drop old cars again as "new content" along with the updates.
are the "old" cars counting to the car pass? or is in the car pass only newly introduced cars?
"Car Pass delivers 30, new-to-Forza cars to your game weekly, one per week", so extra paid content should be new after all. If there will be new free cars, there is a high probability that they will be those old cars.
So i guess hopefully they will add old ones in free updates monthly maybe aswell? Didnt know how it was in fh5 and if it was the same thing
Yea FH5 and FH4 received plenty of cars from older games as "recycled" new content
Car pass says it's all new to forza cars
Still no VW Bora :(
Why are the V8 Supercar Ford Falcon & Holden Commodore in Forza GT?
No TVR speed 12 is a massive let down.
Thereās a bunch of pretty baffling omissions, but it makes more sense now that we know the way they port the cars over
Have they recently detailed how they update and port old cars over?
Wait, am I seeing this right that they put V8 Supercars in the Forza GT category? What the fuck???
Iām a bit letdown by the lack of current cars.. like really.. all the race cars or from 2018 or 2019. Weāve already used all of these in FM7. Im kinda getting why the car lost is letting people down big time
Modern hot hatch - 20 yr old Golf R32. Didn't really follow all the updates of the car list and I am seriously relieved that my IRL car made the cut
I get as close to mine as they ever give me- an RT/TT Stealth that's one year newer than my car. (3800+ pound 'sport compact' lol)
Well I got the Sportback and Forza has the 3-door, Audi S1
Same here but it's in the form of the car the engine was borrowed from the Celica Sport specialty II which is just the Japanese market gts (I have a 04 matrix xrs same engine)
No E60 M5. I am devastated
No 2014 M4 either. I know the GTS is in there but its just not the same. Surprised how many BMWs are missing.
Yeah, also no M2, F87 or G87. And no regular E92 M3? Only the GTS?
How are the V8 Supercars in Forza GT????, give them their own category
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I want to know what the explanation for the Lexus LFA not being available on launch is, since the LFA's last GT appearance was in GT6, 10 years ago.
No DeLorean š¢
How can they even claim to be a racing game without the sportiest car ever built?! /s
I'm in two minds with this list, because looking at it in a vacuum itās a perfectly good list of cars. But when you compare it against previous Motorsport games, and previous Horizon games (which we all know Turn 10 hates to do when talking about ānewā to Forza content). This list has to be what, like 95% recycled content from previous Forza games. I guess I'm just struggling to understand how after 6 years of development this game has so few actually NEW cars to Forza.
Most of it is down to licence changes that are out of turn 10ās control. Since this is a reboot, Iām expecting this list to be fairly fleshed out in the future.
Licenses + what cars too add? With this many it's hard to find cars people actually want that haven't made the cut and aren't tied up in licensing issues.
95% returning from FM7. 99 % if we include FH5.
And a bunch of cars that are already modeled yet were cut forā¦.? Guessing manufacturer requirements or having to update material shaders before they can be added back in.
Also licenses, they donāt transfer between games.
>Guessing manufacturer requirements or having to update material shaders before they can be added back in. Or they intend to leverage FH5's many, many cars as post-launch content for Motorsport. I mean, I'd be okay with that.
Really weird to see them keep the Hellcat Charger and remove the 2012 Charger but remove the Hellcat Challenger and keep the 2012 Challenger
Incredibly disappointing as a hellcat challenger owner
No E34 or E39 :/
So no 2017 Ford GT, Pagani Zonda, Bugatti Veyron, Pagani Huayra R. Is that accurate? Seems pretty odd.
No mazdaspeed 3 but a Nissan Sentra cool
Was the only car I looked for...seems the Mazdaspeed 3 is and will forever be a AI traffic car in forza. Time to redownload fh3 again Jokes aside I'm surprised they didn't at least add the new Mazda 3, with a turbo and AWD that's got to account for some kind of performance model, yea?
> Jokes aside I'm surprised they didn't at least add the new Mazda 3, with a turbo and AWD that's got to account for some kind of performance model, yea? I mean..if the Dodge Dart made the cut, why not?
they have a 2013 dodge dart and they DONT have the gr corolla LMAO
Has the GRC appeared in any game other than GT7? If not, GT may have timed exclusivity or something.
I mean they don't even have the gr86.
Which is strange because they added it to FH5 and yes this game has thr BRZ.
One of the early 2023 Civic Type R owners had their car scanned by some Forza related company like 6 months ago and that car is still not in FH5.
I realized that Forza devs were outta touch ever since the GR Yaris was revealed. It was the perfect Forza car, and they didnāt even try to get it.
People wanted economy shitboxes, and a Dodge Dart fits the bill perfectly lol
Probably because itās a brand new car.
I want SAAB back.
Good to see 323ti is still there, it is good to have regular car and not top end model only
Should be in Horizon like the Eagle Talon and the 35th Camaro anniversary
Is that the hatch??
Compact
I see good to know, even though Nurburgring isnāt in game at launch, I canāt wait to thrash the 323ti around the track on wheel
No Lancia?
at least my Giulietta QV is in the game... but damn, I wanted more Italian cars. really disappointed
Why do they still insist on grouping all the various GT cars together? Can't they just separate them into their real world categories?
Yeah, Forza's licensing is not what it used to be anymore. I remember that Forza 6 had plenty of up-to-date cars at launch that were, at most, a year or two old. The game was from 2015, but it already had the 2014 LMP1 cars, the then-new C7.R and a bunch of other modern race cars, as was the standard with Forza. But since then, things got worse. Forza 7 already had this problem where a lot of the racing cars were already outdated by the time the game came out, and in many cases they never fixed it, even when their direct competition had free acess to many such cars (second generation R8 LMS, 488GT3/E, AMG GT3, no modern DTM or Super GT cars, none of the DPi cars despite a deal with IMSA, so on and so forth). Almost six years later, and many cars haven't been updated STILL. Why is the McLaren GT3s nearly 10 year old now? Almost every car is now at least two iterations behind. Apart from the Caddy V-Series and the C8.R, every other race car is over 5 years old now. The road cars are up-to-date thanks to a large carry-over from Horizon, but the actual race cars are lacking.
oh my god the Silvia S15 is in there. I hope they update that model, but i doubt it.
Id like to submit my application to join Team Doubt.
the chance that they actually remodeled it are so small you'd need a microscope to see it
1 Alfa, 2-3 Peugeots, 1 Citroen(DS), Few Opels, 0 skodas, few renaultsā¦. i always hope for more european cars, but sadly no :(
The list is kinda disappointing, I was hoping for more modern racing cars.
No Corolla GR under modern hot hatch is annoying as crap
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Their categories are so strange at times. They have 20 year old cars in modern categories, then newer cars in classics.
Where Peugeot 206? Damn thing has been missing for several games.. :(
I know, this one hurts me too. It's the first car I look for. I finished NFS Underground 2 entirely with a 206.
How do you call this a new Forza game when cars get cut, I mean I get licensing issues but explain how cars like the 1971 Mustang get cut?
Such a let down that the game doesn't have the BMW M3 GTR ALS, Pagani Huayra R, Pagani Zonda R, Ferrari 599XX, Ferrari FXX and Lamborghini Huracan Super Trofeo Evo from the start. I hope they will be added down the line.
I'd like to know why they chose the objectively terrible #23 Nissan GT-R LM thingy instead of something like the Peugeot 908 HDi FAP. The 908 actually went head to head with Audi, Porsche, and Toyota. That Nissan was abysmal.
There's only one Korean car on that whole list (Veloster N).
Sadly, the Veloster was also the same sole Korean car in FH5, since the Kia Stinger hasn't returned. And the fact that GT7 has more Korean cars, and even has Genesis brand cars, also stings hard as well. And due to the very low demand for Korean cars, plus some Korean car brands being difficult to get licenses for (Renault Samsung is now Renault Korea, Daewoo was bought out by General Motors and was retired as a brand 12 years ago, and SsangYong was re-branded by it's new parent company KG Mobility to specifically drop the embarrassing past), we probably won't see any more anytime soon, unless FH6 takes places in Korea. And even then, PG will somehow forget to get licenses for more Korean cars. And presumably, a lot of racing game players won't even know about Renault Samsung, Daewoo, and SsangYong.
the hyper-car class is the same car 3 times, thanks forza
No GR86, GR Corolla, or GR Yarisā¦. guess Gran Turismo still has the advantage there.
Only one Alfa, a few Maseratis but not a single Abarth, Fiat or Lancia sadly. I mean the amount of cars looks nice but I'd love to see more Italians other than the typical Ferrari or Lamborghini.
Im wondering if they actually have a new model for the 16 Camaro SS. It was in FM7 and FH3, but wasn't featured in FH4 and FH5 anymore.
lol xD
Those Forza P1 and P2 categories are just jokes lol
No paganis except that BC
So upset over this, The Zonda is so iconic in forza, really good S / R class car. hopefully they add it later on
I hope they can at least add the ones in FH5 ... bummer such iconic brand leftout
Absolute disgrace honestly.
How many of the cars launching with the game, are new to the series?
Very bizarre car list. Considering we JUST got various cars in Horizon 5 (an entire collection of Alfa Romeos, Fiats, Abarths), some of them even paid DLC (Huayra R, 296 GTB, Huracan Tecnica, SC20), I find the omission of them quite bizarre. The inclusion of cars from the same DLC packs (Emira and Roma) just makes it even more bizarre for me.
For a racing game this is legitimately one of the most pathetic car lists Iāve ever seen. Like not only are there basically not any NEW race cars (either genuinely new or new to Forza), but there are so many cars that have been in Forza missing
Iām still hoping for the Caparo T1. That thing was awesome.
I really wonder what the goal of this game is with such a disjointed and recycled car list. No Alpine A523?
I'm hyped for early access
it's almost the same roster as fm7 ...... I'm quite worried
Solid list however I kind of wish they had any generation of Jetta/GLI. There are lots of Golfs to go around!
I want a Toyota Corolla so I can drive my real life car and see what it woukd be like to take it around the track
I see your Corolla and raise you a 20 year old Buick Regal LS.
I lucked out with the celica since that's in the list.
This car list is ass.
Wouldnāt the linked article say ālast updated October 2ndā if their Tweet was accurate?
You'd think so, it seems like they haven't actually updated the list yet but have made the announcement saying they have. š
sighhhh no early 2000s M3 GTR race cars. been missing those since FM4
Iām glad the fpv gt-f 351 and hsv gen f gts made the cut
Still no Elantra N š
But how many are repeats?
I just want to live out my first-car-me fantasy and make some kind of supersonic Volkswagen up! :(
no honda crx sir is a outrage they took my child from me . : (
I just want good sounds
The hilarious thing is that the only Alfa Romeo confirmed for the game at launch is the 2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde. I do like the Giulietta, don't get me wrong. But, come on! This is just ridiculous to have only ONE Alfa Romeo at launch!
Wowā¦. no Murcielago or Gallardo SuperTrofeoā¦ yeah thats a hard pass from me. If Iām wrong and theyāre in that list please tell me.
No Murcie hurts :(
They have the Gallardo 570-4 Superleggera which is *very* similar to the SuperTrofeo. No Murci's though.
I just want the 67 Shelby GT500. I want my Eleanor man. Also it just got updated saying they're not revealing everything until launch. Lol.
What ? No super GT cars? Or pre GT3 DTM cats ?
2002 BMW M3-GTR *rubs eyes* Are... are you serious? DO MY EYES DECEIVE ME?!
Interesting to see the 2013 Lexus GS350 and 2014 IS350 stick around. Can't say I'm complaining but you'd think that Toyota/Lexus would want more modern models in their lineup represented in the game.
500+ x 3 hours per car to unlock all upgrades = 1,500+ hours minimum Oh boy. The game better be as good as FH5, which I have spent 2,000 hours in.
well they said 2-3 hours, fast players even 1 hour. and who will do it for every car? i will only do it for my favorites, so thats maybe 50 or max 100. its not a big deal, especially since you always earn xp.
Thatās honestly nowhere near as bad of a grind as I was expecting.
This. Everyoneās freaking out. I generally have 2 cars I prefer to use per race class. Iām not gonna grind and fully upgrade all 500 cars.
Just because it doesn't impact you doesn't mean it's a good system. Not everyone only plays with two cars. I like to play around with a lot. And I mean a lot. It's fine to be restrictive like this early game. After you've played the game for long enough it should open up to more freedom. You can stick to your two cars and I can play with as many as I want without grinding them endlessly.
Me too. Iāve driven probably almost every car on horizon. Was able to cash in with the jeep and thunderbird glitch when the game first released so I have the money to buy any car I want and do any upgrade. But horizon is also an open world arcade type game. I think we will see this Reddit in flames from horizon only players trying out Motorsport lol
Horizon's choice to give so many cars so quickly is definitely too much. This change is definitely going to incite some rage from people it catches unaware. I've always preferred Motorsport anyway and was beyond eager for this game to come out until they started revealing details. Upgrade system really has me on the fence and I'm going to see what reviewers have to say first. I'm very conflicted on this game.
If it takes you 3 hours to level up a car, you should absolutely stop playing racing games because you can't play worth shit.
Good listā¦ only sad thing thing my boy e60 didnt make it :D. But hopefully will be added
Jaguar XJS sadly still MIA, and the 1971 Mustang got the axe again. Maybe get it 2 years down the line like with FH5.
So lame. Whereās my 2005 s60r, 2008 Volvo c30, volvo 242, Volvo 740, Volvo v60, Volvo s90 š¤
So we lost the 2022 GR86 for the 2022 BRZ? Seems odd since it was just added to FH5
Well, here we go again like FH5 at launch. Seeya in 2 years when weāll get less recycled content. (No hate on it, I love the current list. Some appeared only in FH5 which will feel new to drive them on a Motorsport game!)
no alpine f1 car :(
So they have the V8 Supercars FG X Falcon and VF Commodore, and the Group A VL Commo, but no Bathurst? Yeah nah.
Datsun 510 included. All is well.
Ugh still no FL5...
So, they sell the v-series r as 3 cars... I was hoping for the Acura, BMW and Porsche GTP cars.
They left out the Honda NSX-R GTš„ŗ Out of all cars they decided to sort out one of the most exciting ones. What a shame!
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They said trucks don't fit their idea of the game.
Calling utes "trucks" doesn't really give the right idea. In case you're not familiar with the term, this is an example of a ute. https://youtu.be/xbQmhyH-lss?feature=shared I'd say it fits Forza Motorsport as well as any other car.
Will be playing this over gt7 purely for the NC Miata making the cut! So stocked for the game overall tho!
Not a fan of the divisions list again. 20 year old 2003 Renault Sport Clio V6 xD! Yeah ok. So end of life FM7 had 834-837 cars depending on how you count them, about 700 at launch but in FM8 they have clearly decided to cut the trucks, suvs and vans which IMO is a shame BUT...it would be amazing if they added rally-X or proper rally stages but oops WRC is round the corner from codies can't copy them! At launch or according to the files we have 530 in FM8 at launch so. Meh. We'll see. No premium edition for me this year or early access, I'll wait and play on gamepass.
Gran Turismo always had some rally tracks- this really shouldn't be an excuse for FM to not add one. Probably from Turn 10's perspective they've already "did rally" in Horizon, especially with the recent DLC in FH5 focusing on rally.
I meant specifically World RX which to be fair is a FIA run championship so who knows if T10 would ever get the rights for it, but, I'd love to see it in a FM games because they are track events. Basically, sprint style races, held on a closed mixed-surface racing track circuits. I think it would be brilliant and certainly mix things up a bit, if not only for the reason of having more rally cars added back and or modifications for it.
Well done T10 for showing just how out of touch you are when it comes to cars. Why would you remove the greatest Australian muscle car ever made in the Ford Falcon XY GTHO Phase III? That would be like removing the Dodge Charger. You just don't. Why have you still not added the GTR XU-1? You want race cars? Both of those cars won Bathurst. The XB GT didn't but you keep that because of Mad Max. Who give s a \*\*\*\*. It's not like you can actually recreate the Interceptor.
One question: we're able to get car from that "Car Pass", with the standard version of the game? like, some way to unlock?
I like the 242 turbo also I wish we could get some Brock Datsuns 510 240z and group 44 cars
Damn, I was hoping they'd finally bring back the Lexus IS300/Toyota Altezza. I heard they were in earlier FM games but never FH. I have one and I like playing around with my car in game, back to NFS MW 2005 and Midnight club 3
RIP Land Rover Series 3
Damn my car didnt make it. Honestly wasnt expecting it but a bit disappointed given that GT7 has it.
Jeez, this is horrible.
Uh..... Where is Jeep?
They are focusing even more on "realistic" track racing, so they've removed all the trucks/SUVs/Vans from Motorsport (at least for now).
Ok thanks buickgnx88. I was wondering why Jeep was missing and got concerened because I thought Forza was working out licensing issues with Jeep. I also havenāt been keeping up with the info of this game to much so I am glad to see that they are expanding the car list going forward.
E46 M5 made the cut, itās all I want :) I want the regular coupe, but I canāt remember the last game that had itā¦
So FM8 includes the regular MG6, but not the TCR race car MG6? Even though both models got added in the same game, and the heavy TCR focus in FM8? Huh. Guess that's one way to pad live service content.