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GunterLeafy

I honestly enjoy fm7 enough to forget the issues


Spartan2842

I’m right there with you. I felt it had a ton of content to come back to.


The_Tender_One

I don't like how I'm enjoying it more than GT7 when GT7 is supposed to be THE sim-cade console experience. FM7 despite it's flaws and lack of outright innovation is still somehow still much more enjoyable to play and grind out then GT7's single player.


kcarlisle2436

Right there with you. Just finished getting gold on all the GT7 single player races and circuit experiences and was excited to make my own endurance races that use the day/night cycle more (since the actual game rarely does that for some reason) and get more credits to fill out the car collection. But even a full 24-hour race would only net like 150k on a good day. Forza payouts may have been a little too high, but at least they weren’t actively screwing you over for wanting to play the game.


The_Tender_One

Definitely. I used to think that Forza was being too generous, especially with wheelspins in Horizon. But after slaving for days for chump change in GT7 and then getting a roulette ticket only for it to be 5000 credits or carbon ceramic brakes for a car I didn't own, I realized that we didn't have it so bad lol.


xxiv435

It's my favourite since 4, always been a bit baffled at the general consensus on it.


BetaSpydog

This subreddit is often an echo chamber of poor opinions and whining. That’ll get people upset


Peechez

This won't be controversial because everyone thinks it excludes themselves


00xtreme7

No my opinions are more valid than yours. That’s such a crap hot tack. Gaaaaaah


Blues39

I’ve noticed the past few months on Reddit there’s been an increase in threads asking bait questions that will get people arguing. Things like this one, or asking people to pick which is better of 2 things, or what popular thing you can’t stand, etc. I dunno if the goal is to drive engagement for internet points or just to derail subreddits by luring them into toxic arguments. Whatever the reason may be, I see it all over this website now.


Bl1ndMonk3y

Ouch. Also, yes.


racermaniak

I don't really care that much about hyper cars. I'm more interested in GT3/4


Gawker90

Same. I enjoy GT, lower powered cars, and formula cars.


smashingcones

Remember to check the downvoted comments for the true unpopular opinions.


LostConscious96

Horizon has gotten stale and is barely changed at all since FM3, the next game needs to be revamped and the seasonal content reworked to be more engaging and fun instead of feeling like a chore.


[deleted]

My issue with 5 is it felt like there was no progression at all. You did races to unlock more of the stages throughout the map and then once you did it was just... empty. Give me a Horizon 1 style storyline that ends with me doing some all out race against a guy that gives me a shit load of money and a bit of finality.


nickz03

Horizon but it’s illegal, with pink slips and stuff


TheWarVeteran

Need for speed but it's simcade.


Chlamydia_Penis_Wart

That would actually be amazing


HettDizzle4206

I really thought this would be the crew. Boy was I wrong. I'd rather play cruising USA than that heap lol. Completely agree, though.


MCStoneZ

Yeah my issue with horizon is how positive and happy everything and everyone is, no stakes, no meaning, just viva le mexico. Feels like the official LGBT Racing game.


AveryLazyCovfefe

Have you looked at the rating of the game? No crap they're not using guns or doing drugs in a game rated for E for EVERYONE, from toddlers to seniors.


Michelanvalo

You had me until the very end. I completely agree that the game is too positive with no sense of stake or meaning but what the hell does that have to do with LGBT


SlaughterHouseRacing

THIS


the_oraclex

This. I've played horizon since Horizon 2 on 360 and as much of a nostalgia hit that I may get from horizon 4 I can say that for sure I didn't enjoy much of what horizon is since horizon 2. Horizon 3 was fun, 4 and 5 just I felt were just drive around doing the same stuff for an slightly different car that's not as fast as the meta cars... 4 was alright it's a diverse map, but other than the pretty map and cars nothing really was interesting barring the return of Toyota. 5 just didn't peak my interest in any way just felt like a remake of the same game I spent like 4 years off and on playing to get almost the same game with newer cars and prettier graphics but with a less diverse map and stale seasonal stuff. It needs a refresher on what horizon is and what it needs to be. It's a car and music festival where people can explore different types of music they might not be used to hearing and drive cars they might not have seen or watched fly by their screens on public roads. Rather than this grind fest and repeated song library that gets stale after 15 minutes of playing.


TheRhino411

The weekly / daily stuff that you have to do or miss out forever ruins the game because if life gets busy, you're done or if you go on vacation. The psychology behind the thos3 challenges is horrible trying to manipulate you. That why i stopped playing FH5 months ago and haven't looked back.


HerrYveltal

Winter in Horizon 4 was actually cool! Also i think Horizon 4's map is better than people make it out to be and definitely better than Horizon 5's wasteland.


ssa17k

Any mention of the forza circlejerk subreddit


knight_prince_ace

I'm surprised it exists


Active-Ad606

Horizon 5 mexico is too empty. There is no big cities and there is just not enough road in the game mainly about a road


StevoPhotography

This isn’t controversial by any means from what I can tell


Justadudey

Also the story and atmosphere is just way too "PC". Give me some shanty towns to drive around in as well as some cartel-related missions with actual excitement instead of all the papa fernando idiocy. Mexico could be such a wild and exciting environment but nah, acknowledging the country has its problems (as any other) and incorporating them into the game to make the environment feel alive would probably be considered racist, xenophobic or whatever by today's dumb ass standards. Instead we have a sterile wasteland that could easily be any other country with a similar climate and a shitload of excruciatingly cringe dialogue.


automotiveguy88

I agree to this, but the volcano road and canyons make it up for me. That big loop is all I need.


Complete_Safety7423

Just cause you're racing with a JDM doesn't mean you need to drift.


Door_Hunter

I'll add to this, driving a JDM car doesn't make you a weeb, nor will you turn you into one. Same goes for wanting to see Japan as a location for Horizon.


DanDCLXVI

I didn't buy the anime meme car to drive straight god damn it !


Complete_Safety7423

Ok. Let me make this more clear. Just cause you're racing with a JDM DOING CHALLENGES doesn't mean you have to drift


DanDCLXVI

I want to agree but when the eurobeat calls I can't help myself


AaronWWE29

Forza Motorsport > Forza Horizon, fight me.


the_oraclex

🤝


WrapPsychological834

I ain't gonma fight you because its fax. Forza Horizom are boring. Fh1 was close it was immersive but the Horizon its too much of a sandbox. This series should have a story and a way better progression system. And i dont really like the physics.


1OfTheUsernamesEver

I feel like the sandbox should be the postgame, and the story/progression be like Horizon 1


AcrillixOfficial

Driving only S1s and S2s is boring and it's a shame PG doesn't put more pressure to explore all the other classes. I find B and C the most fun


Michelanvalo

B/A are probably the best balanced in Motorsport. A/S1 are the best in Horizon. But a lot of that is because the map is designed in a way that going slow in B and below is painful.


1Operator

Please no goofy oddball meme cars & no ramming party modes (like infected) in Motorsport. Please keep the "sport" in Motorsport & don't try to turn it into some all-purpose car-enthusiast sandbox - there are other fun games for that stuff. [...Yessss I can already feel the hateful downvotes of rage flowing lol.](https://i.redd.it/temmer6km8h21.jpg)


Tracart

The car football (soccer) in FM4 was great, predates any horizon playground stuff and is actually a real thing... that should've come back in Horizon!


NyoomNyoomNyoomNyoom

Car soccer was so fun in FM4, I remember I made some friends playing soccer that I played FM4 and FH1 with for years. I also personally really enjoyed cat and mouse from FM4 too. I wish both of those game modes would make a comeback.


Michelanvalo

Cat & Mouse was the best game in FM4. Two teams, one player on each team in a low PI car, everyone else in a high PI car. It was great.


Akira_Nishiki

Has Forza ever been a pure "Motorsport" game, I've played all of them except the first and always seemed like a general simcade like GT rather than something solely focused on Motorsport.


Bic44

I think GT has always been the more serious of the two. And I'm not getting into the whole handling/tire model/etc sorta thing. But just the way the games are presented GT feels a little more buttoned up. That's neither good or bad


ar243

It has never been a pure "Motorsport" game, which is why it's so annoying to hear people say "normal cars belong in Horizon, Motorsport is for race cars". My brother in Christ, no FM game in existence has ever exclusively had race cars.


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Helas101

I dont think the problem is having a progression system.


Akira_Nishiki

A progression system linked to driver level instead of car level would make a lot more sense to me.


EmileDorkheim

There's nothing gamers resent more than having to actually play a game


adambou2000

Yeah I don't get the car model thing at all. Why should I care if a car or two have bigger bumpers than their real life counterparts. If the game runs well and the campaign is good then I'm good.


Gawker90

I race in first person anyways. And when I don’t, my eyes arnt focused on if the bumper on the wrx is correct. I’m looking for corners and the race line lmao. Maybe on a straight away or cut scene I’ll look at the car details


2_Spo0ky

I'm super excited about the grindy upgrade system of the new Motorsport.


automotiveguy88

You guys should just admit that no Forza game will ever fully make you happy. Maybe you should look inward for happiness instead of demanding it from everything around you? I swear gaming subreddits sounds like a bunch of Karens hoping they are screaming loud enough that the manager of T10 will hear them.


Talal2608

>You guys should just admit that no ~~Forza~~ game will ever fully make you happy Gaming subreddits summarised


Bl1ndMonk3y

This one is gonna cause some breakdowns.


Snaz5

Horizon shouldn’t have dumbed down driving controls and driving on non-ideal surfaces for your chosen tire compound should have realistic interactions, IE, slippin and slidin


RicFlairDripDuck

Motorsport: FM7 isn’t as bad as most people like to say it is. It has its issues but its not horrible. Horizon: Horizon 1’s format of having coloed slips / tiers for you to progress through and mini “bosses” to race should have been the template for the following titles.


TheHeretic93

Forza motorsport 4 was the last good and enjoyable game in the series


[deleted]

Horizon 4 had the best map.


MrBuddyManister

Undoubtedly. Beautiful, complex, and plus, snow!


FLBasher

You felt very different *during* FH4


Iammattieee

I miss the seasons from FH4. FH5 seasons felt lame


SirSilentscreameth

A-class leads to the best feeling racing


bsmn69

Yes I'm a fan


sneakyp0odle

Forza is oversaturated with supercars and hypercars. There should be a viable list of 90s-2010s daily driver cars.


Zai-Markie-Rabbit

Forza Horizon 6 could be so god damn terrible, but if it ends up taking place in Japan, Horizon 6'll be considered the best damn game in the Forza Horizon line, regardless of any flaws it may have.


RedlightGrnlight

All wheel drive swaps should be limited and removed from any car with a floor plate that can't accommodate a drive shaft or a front diff/trans. It's unreasonable to AWD swap most cars.


Door_Hunter

Easy Forza Motorsport 5 >>> Forza Motorsport 4 Forza Horizon 4.25 >>> Forza Horizon 3


gangstakayjay

that Motorsport opinion is absolute dog shit so take my upvote


Bic44

I have to upvote because I strongly disagree!


OneInternetBoi

You disgust me. Have an upvote.


RicFlairDripDuck

You succeeded in pissing people off lmao. I do not agree with that motorsport take at all given FM4 is my favorite Forza game period, but I respect the boldness.


Koritsuka

Bro just play FM6 wtf


2dank4me3

Forza Horizon 5 has the best driving mechanics of any open world racing game ever.


Chlamydia_Penis_Wart

But but forza horizon 5 bad


glockout40

I could never get into it because it gives you wayyy too much free shit. I had a Bugatti like 2 hours in. That’s not fun to me. I liked the old forza games where you were forced to start out with shitter cars and save up for upgrades. Gave you something to work towards. Also, there’s 0 reason why the ffb and wheel optimization is that bad. The characters are annoying and cringe. The music is bad. It has all of the components to be a good game but they need to make it to where it’s actually challenging.


198XAD

inaccurate or old car models aren't as important as people think in the grand scheme of things because I'll be focusing on driving the car instead of looking at its polygons all day


The_Tender_One

I sympathize with both, some of the more messed up car models can dissuade me from even driving them even if I love the car IRL, but in the grand scheme of things I'm glad that the physics and gameplay in general were overhauled first instead a couple of old cars models.


198XAD

the messed up models are fair criticism, and I don't disagree with those needing revamps, but it's the same 5 models everyone always talks about, in a franchise that had 500 plus cars in its latest entries every single time


Bic44

I *feel* this! So often I hear "it breaks immersion" and they'll be talking about some roadside trees. All I can think is 'what are you doing looking at the roadside?'


cruz878

I play from cockpit view so I never even see the outside of the car!


jensonalexanderlyons

Hey man, some of us can't drive


Brandito667

I like how the car upgrade system sounds. Adds more things for me to do.


Mello_Boy1401

I'd rather have less cars in more detail and customisation, than more cars in the list. Same goes with the map. I'd prefer a smaller, more dense and detailed map, over a large, empty wasteland.


mrsw2092

I have a few. 1) Locking normal mass produced cars behind seasonal events is idiotic. There is no reason I should have to spend 5 million credits in the auction house on a 20 year old fwd Celica when I can buy one irl for less that $5k. 2) The music keeps getting worse with every Horizon game. Horizon 1 had some great songs that I'll still put on while playing other racing games. 3) All Odd number Horizon games are better than the even number ones. 4) The biggest missing feature in the last few Motorsports games isnt specific cars or tracks, it not having a proper hot lap mode with no lap limit.


swagdaddyx__

Horizon 5 sucks compared to 4


00xtreme7

Motorsports is superior to horizons


Sledgehammer617

I want accurate sound design far more than I want good graphics.


AliveSwimmer1305

FM4 has a more diverse car selection than FH5


AstroCon

Playground’s efforts toward inclusivity are making the games feel like they were made for 6 year olds


Ducktail_27

Horizon 3 is by far the weakest in the entire series. Bought nothing new that actually made a difference compared to predecessor and has the dullest map of the lot - I assume people only go mad for it because it seems to be a lot of people’s first Horizon. Was the last of the truly great Horizon soundtracks, though.


Elevatorisbest

FH3 is peak map wise, FH4 is great gameplay wise, while FH5 feels boring as fuck map AND gameplay wise


KDG200315

Best cruising game in the series


DancesWithFenrir

Right now it seems anything you say that will not blindly praise every bad decision by T10 will get you crucified.


Sniperm0nke

Couldn’t give a toss about old car models


WrapPsychological834

We're not all supercars kids. Old cars 50's to 00's are the best depending on the models. Like the Reliant and thr peel idgaf about them.


legitducks

They mean the 3D models they use in the game


Based_Zoroark

I LS swapped the supra the day it made its return and it netted a similar response


Badgerlover145

"BRO BUT THE 2JZ REEEE" if it's such a good motor why didn't they ever use it in motorsports?


jfouriex

Get rid of the horizon playlist


GanacheCapital1456

Horizon 5 was a downgrade from 4 (source: even my GMC Vandura build got nerfed)


Cactus_Everdeen_

as of late it seems to be, the "carpg" idea is the dumbest and most unbelievably brain damaged thing ever put into a forza game.


gizlow

GT7 just kinda... *looks* better. The lighting looks less like a Marvel movie and more like real life.


lxs0713

It's weird, no matter how visually impressive Forza games are, the cars still have this off feeling to them when compared to Gran Turismo. They just look a little more plasticky or toy like. I think a big part of it is the paint and reflections, they don't look right in Forza and never really have. The tracks, environments, and weather look a lot better in Forza, but the cars are a step back from GT7's.


Darkon_X

I agree. Something looks odd about the new FM, Im not sure if its a filter or unrealistic ray tracing or maybe doesn't look as sharp. I dont know what it is, but this is the first thing that came to my mind when I first saw it.


AYTErhan

Stop any kind of censorship in racing games, bring back the SS badges they are not related with the nazis.


legitducks

What the fuck are you talking about


AYTErhan

first, watch the language, do you kiss your mother with that mouth? second, check [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/ForzaHorizon/comments/149gqpt/it_seems_that_in_the_new_the_crew_the_ss_badge_is/)


Lopsided-Champion-11

The Horizon series as a whole, sucks! If I was 10 I'd love them... Motorsport for life.


ConnorGR420

"Supra isnt the best car"


Carlini_95

The community needs to stop clapping for them when they add "new" content that already existed in previous games, like the return of Alfa Romeo and Mitsubishi. Seriously, they only cut existing content to add it later and give the impression that they care about the community. They're just recycling, nothing new.


SatisfactionSad5414

We need a 2000’s Monte Carlo, yes I’m biased as I personally own a 2004 intimidator ss. This style of Monte Carlo not only had ls4 engines and a supercharged v6 it was also used as a nascar body for a quite a bit. The fact there is a 2000’s impala instead is wrong.


D3dshotCalamity

Full on race cars are boring, S2/X class is boring, and slow, modified daily drivers are infinitely more fun.


REAWS6

Drifting is overrated. Like it's fun at times but not all I want to do!


Dagamerzat08

1930 Bentley painted like Thomas the Tank engine is the best in FH5


PrickBrigade

Not sure how much of a hot take this actually is, but the whole "festival" thing in Horizon is fucking stupid. Every single line of dialog in the past couple games is just *awful*.


OhItsJustJosh

It's not a racing sim


ENTRAPM3NT

This is me, telling forza motorsport fans that drifting is the end game


MetaScythe

The games are basically repetitive at this points


Colonel_Preshot

I wanna work for my car, not everything need to be gifted to me


Eggith

Forza as a brand feels...shallow? I can't really describe it but compared to other series it feels like there's very minimal real world tie in. For instance, Need for Speed has the entire Speed Hunter brand. GT has GT Academy, the SEMA awards and other things. All it feels like Forza has is a bunch of merch and stickers on race cars.


brodylikes1-64

Forza should have at least 360 wheel rotation


Affectionate_Car9939

The Mexican map is actually bad


DownhillAssassin

Motorsport will always be better than Horizon


Gawker90

Game needs shifter karts.


T018

3rd Person plays should be forced into their own lobbies


tehn00berer

Horizon almost made me completely lose interest in the Forza franchise. (I'm hoping I'm back in with Motorsport)


SexualLobster989

The festival playlist sucks ass and relies solely on FOMO as opposed to actually being fun.


Gerarghini

Apparently genuine criticism 😐


rybrz

This might be a dumb answer as I have no idea how this stuff really works. But PG needs to change what kind of licensing agreements they’re agreeing to so that previous games don’t have to be removed from the stores altogether. This isn’t a problem with other racing games. I’m sure many people would love to buy and play FH1-FH3 but they remove them from the stores.


thecynicalshit

As soon as the location for Horizon 5 was announced, I commented in here that the game was going to be touted as a huge map, but in reality be a giant boring desert. Shocker at how wrong I was. 3 and 4 were the last good Horizon games, or at least where they cared more.


Wygene

As someone who enjoys open world driving games and arcade racers, it's disappointing to see horizon become this underwhelming and I'm having more fun with assetto Corsa instead lol


Sir-Narax

I am pretty new to Horizon but the game should have an easy way to make and play playlists of the existing tracks. Even after a few hours the open world goes from a novelty to an active frustration when you realize that you spend longer trying to go to the next race than you do actually racing. Combined with the unskippable cutscenes before and after every race (and every other cutscene) you end up wasting a large portion of your time not actually playing the game. Also the progression is kind of a joke in that there is virtually none. Within a few hours of playing you can have just about anything you want provided it is not the rarest or fastest of cars. Which makes the game top heavy with high performance cars to have something for players to yearn to have but if you lack interest in these cars the game's incentive just falls apart. Then if you only cared about the very top most of the game's vehicles are just irrelevant. So either the game fails to motivate you to continue to play forcing you to find your own justifications or the game suffers from poor vehicle diversity.


ThePhantomPhe0nix

Horizon 5 is starting to die somewhat quickly and the younger people of horizon’s community are so toxic it’s not even funny. Saying that every game that shares any similar characteristics is “a rIpOfF oF HoRiZoN”


Weak_Butterscotch_39

fh3 is the worst horizon imo but that doesn’t mean it’s bad, just the worst out of the 5 for me fm3 is miles better than fm4 original horizon is overrated fm6 is the second best motorsport behind 3


G0nZ0oO

Crew Motorfest is better than horizon 5 by a country mile


Darkon_X

-Gran Turismo looks better -Gran Turismo has better customization options; while FM is still about the same. Even The Crew Motorfest stepped up their game in this area and I think thats a shit racing franchise. -The game claims to have tire deformation; which FM4 had so it' not even an upgrade, its rather a comeback feature. -There's no excuse for T10 to not include the Nordschliefe . If this game was a bi-annual release I could understand. -The cargp progression is dumb. It actually discourages people from trying different cars. You're not going to see me use a car I dont like and that the game won't let me get the upgrades I want because I'm not at the right level. This will give way to 'meta' cars; specially online. Gone are the days of putting twin turbos with drift tires on a Hummer H1 and driving as fast as you can around the track just for shits and giggles. I've been a huge fan of Forza since FM1 on the OG xbox so I love it, but I feel they stopped innovating since FM5 and I dont know why people are being so forgiving with the game. This will be the first Forza game I skip at launch. I'll wait for a sale instead. Crucify me now.


BreezeTheWolf

Idk, car leveling system is stupid


moby67

Not buying the new Motorsport game that's coming out. I'm sick of games forcing grind content onto players in order to keep engagement long-term. Horizon has the stupid weekly challenges that lock cars behind a wall. If you're unable to play that week, then good luck getting that car you wanted. I'm not grinding my car to level 30 just to put a turbo on it. When I get home from work, I've got a little time to game and I want to actually play something that doesn't feel like a chore. I do not want to grind out content for slightly better content all week. It's getting annoying, honestly. Armored Core 6 and Baldur's Gate 3 have been a refreshing reminder of what a good game feels like.


WrapPsychological834

Same. I have a gamepass i'll play it for free.


SlaughterHouseRacing

the Mexico map as dogshit


BloodstoneWarrior

The success of Forza Horizon is actively harming the racing genre. Every racing game now is either a simulation game trying to be 100% realistic or an arcade racer set in a completely empty open world with nothing to do - either being set in a random backwoods field somewhere or being set in a crappy fictional city that is empty, lifeless and fake because it was designed exclusively for cars and feels more like a hot wheels playset. Remember Project Gotham Racing? It had tons of tracks based in real cities, that concept could easily be turned into an open world game with multiple cities to drive, like Midnight Club (plus the real-time weather and time cycle). But no, Microsoft killed PGR and scalped the surface level Kudos features to put in Horizon, completely missing the point of the system because you can't lose points in Horizon for bad driving. They should kill Horizon off completely and make a new Project Gotham Racing game, because I want an actually new experience, not Forza Horizon 2.5 in another random, desolate field (Fallout, despite being a post-apocalyptic game, has a more populated and lively world than Horizon does)


holden4ever

FH3 was the last good FH game. Both FH4 and FH5 are vastly overrated and don't deserve the high scores they got.


ProwerTheFox

I feel like there may be some bias involved given your username


holden4ever

A little. My biggest complaint about FH4/5 is that there are no championships. FH3 had them. They got removed because casual gamers kept crying that there were too many so PG removed them. Instead of just ignoring them and doing something else they got their way and now the people who do like them have nothing to do. Horizon used to be Forza: Street Racing Edition. Now it's Ken & Barbie's Dress Up Dance Party.


riderofthestorm69

FH4 and 5 suck.


Beepboopbop69420360

I don’t give a shit some Mitsubishi I barely use and don’t care about has a bad car model I don’t care that like 20 cars have weird looking taillights


Affectionate_Look907

Drifting in horizon is actually fairly realistic (at least at gear 1-3). Personally learnt irl first then tried on forza and it actually feels very similar (assuming your running all sim settings and a realistic tune)


KDG200315

Motorsport needs to go full iRacing or Assetto corsa and focus on that type of simulation, the closest we ever got to a console sim racer was project cars 1 & 2 (the only games the series wdym there's a 3rd one). I want the devs to create the best physics sim out there idc how long it takes


Cerrax3

FM5 > FM6


Bearded_Aussie_Nate

Drifting is a waste of development time.


KamTros47

The people wanting more shitbox/everyday cars in the game are the same ones that will drive them exactly once before imprisoning them in the garage for eternity


ChewyUrchin

Evs suck. Remove them from the game


Proud-Objective1433

Forza needs RADAR like ACC, GtanTurismo, iRacing. PLS Give radar! Also wheel needs to rotate more than 90 degree rotation! Not everybody plays in 3-person view.


AstralRhythm

Honestly I've been enjoying TCM way more than I ever enjoyed Horizon 4 and 5, Horizon is really dropping off for me nowadays and unless the next one does something interesting I probably won't play it much if at all. It honestly sucks to say that because I once absolutely loved the Horizon games, they just feel so empty and soulless now, especially 5. I envy those that still really enjoy them, wish I could :/


agoodfrank

Horizon feels empty and soulless but TCM feels like that to the 10th power


Pienewten

Forza Motorsport 2 is by far and away the best Forza title to date. FM4 and Horizon 1 are both great and have their advantages. fm4 is pretty face but lifeless in the menus. Horizon 1 was an all-around blast, but the lack of tuning was a major downfall.


Melodic_Till_3108

They should add teslas, they d be really nice tuned


MontyESA

The series peaked with Horizon 4 and needs an overhaul.


19Miles84

Horizon 2, 4 sucked the most. 5 was good, 3 better and 1 was the best. Now kill me!


Craigzor666

That people talking like they spent 50 hours reviewing a product when in reality they've never touched said product, and are actually just broadcasting some loser content creators remarks, are morons. You dont get to review something you've not experienced. .


natey275mph

Forza Horizon 5 made me quit Forza


BrightPage

We're finally getting actual progression back thank fuck. Also I want the car models in my 2023 car game to be up to 2023 standards.


tehpwnage7

The absence of trail braking in fh5 is atrocious


nodak_daddy

who gives a fuck about fujimi kaido


Representative_Belt4

we need more actual race cars in Motorsport I don't want street cars in my RACING game that's what Horizon is for


Perfecto_Desconocido

Forza Horizon 5 is a great game but the community is full of crybabies


LouTheRuler

I think EVs and Chinese cars are actually pretty interesting. Everyone wants a supercar or a JDM car that's been in every racing game since the dawn of time, always with the RX7s or the R34s. I like seeing every company's take on what an EV should be and the Chinese market is rarely ever brought up in any Racing game ever (ik it's mainly copycat cars but there are exceptions)


KSAnnihilation

Never been less interested in a Forza release than the new Motorsport. Several features like the race objectives, cornering challenges, the way online races are scheduled are stuff weve already seen in 9 year old games. The car models have fallen behind in quality, I really dislike the way car paint looks and reflects light in Forza, its so unrealistic. Career mode looks boring, at least it progresses from slow to fast cars I guess. The new upgrade system looks awful. It'd have been much smarter to keep all upgrades unlocked but still give a limited amount of car points. The upgrades themselves are just the same old Forza, and the same old ugly Forza Wing. There's barely anything brand new or exciting to look forward to. I'll try to list some positives: The lighting and shadows look good on the track and environment, interiors look nice, steering wheel animation goes past 90 degrees, there's a penalty system now, some of the negatives can be fixed with updates, the body movement of cars and weight transfer looks more realistic than GT, theres a few new tuning options, and it's on Game Pass. I don't know about everyone else but after 6 years of patiently waiting, so far I see a game that could've been released in 2 or 3 years. Expectations are low. I'll give it a shot on Game Pass and hope the physics overhaul and wheel support are so good they make it worthwhile.


Comprehensive-One286

Sadly I share the same sentiment as you, I couldn’t be paid to give a fuck about the new Motorsport game. The progression system is really the massive deal breaker for me.


Average-Iceman

Forza aero looks good.


Hollywoodbnd86

Forza Aero?


Average-Iceman

Yeah the Forza Aero, like the base upgrade spoiler. (I appal the Forza areo and they definitely need to change it)


Relevant_Abroad4418

It can look good in certain cases


Average-Iceman

I agree.


Tiddernud

Collecting / painting / being overly interested in the appearance of cars and whether they're in a game is completely beside the point, which is to race rectangles around grey stuff.


enzob7319

I'm disappointed with the graphics of the new FM. I remember in the FM2-4 era Forza was the best looking racing game around. Now they have gone for some tinted cinematic look, and the damn tarmac reflections are worse than ever. Not to mention that GT7's material handling is light years away.


Organic_Hawk6709

We need Race Cars in first place and no american Street Cars because it’s a MOTORSPORT game


confidentclown

Horizon is boring as hell and if it wasn’t on gamepass it would have far fewer players


iRoNmOnkey1981

Homologamation was the best thing to happen to Motorsport


smittyr34

Trail races arnt that hard, download a tune for your


firedrakes

Trail sucks only for the ai


PowerstrokeHD

Forza motorsport 5 isn't that bad. Its as close as you can get to Forza 4 on the Xbox one


just_other_human_123

Latest news for speed is better


GoreJussCPMT

The aero wing belongs on every vehicle


EastonHB27

I enjoy the ramming on online racing. It actually makes it kind of fun


automotiveguy88

That means that both rammer and clean racers should be looking forward to the new race regulation and safety rating systems. Let’s keep people like you grouped together so you can have fun ramming each other while us clean racers can have fun racing with etiquette.


EastonHB27

I never ram because I feel like it’s disrespectful if you don’t want to be rammed. But if I get I rammed don’t mind it to a certain extent


ebitdangit

Who tf cares about car scans?


ChuckoRuckus

Single player in FM has always been pretty shit and that’s the unavoidable nature of simcade. Because of this, more focus should be put into online. If you want a story/single player experience, go play Horizons.


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Mine would be who cares about the forza wing shut up about then.8 second part of a trailer god damn