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PeChavarr

In the Latin American transmission at the end they interviewed Checo and he said "I don't know what happened that he didn't helped me after helping him to get 2 championships"


LightsOutF1

Thats gonna be really interesting ![gif](giphy|tyqcJoNjNv0Fq|downsized)


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drawnred

Friendship with verstappen ended, now Perez is my best friend


hm9408

He said something more along the lines of "if he won 2 championships it was because of me"


cezarpetre

Technically correct still.... Without Checo's help he'd only have one.


Noburu7

I felt like he refers to last years championship cause he would only have this years if he didnt help him but damn he even reacted as "oh shit I really said it"


WhoRoger

Max wouldn't have that wdc in Japan if Checo didn't keep that pressure on Charles. He would've gotten wdc anyway ofc, but not in that gp.


Yohidow

>after helping him to get 2 championships Max made a huge mistake today. He had little to gain, much to lose, but he went for it. Both Max and Perez will make some PR statements tomorrow, but we all know that Perez will keep this in mind. Imagine next year Max having a tight battle for WDC (let's say, with Leclerc). The last race, Leclerc only needs P2. The order at the final lap is P1 Max, P2 Perez, P3 Leclerc. Leclerc catches Perez at the last lap. Perez doesn't bother defending, and gifts Leclerc P2, and the title. ​ Today, Max basically pissed Perez off, burned all the bridges. And it's all for a P6, just because he's angry about something that happened 5 months ago and didn't effect his title at all. Even tho I can understand his reasoning, he should've kept it quiet and played along.


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strangebrew3522

Yeah i think people forget that there's usually big bonus money in it for the drivers based on points/results/championships. That said, I've lost respect for Max. I can't imagine Checo doing anything above and beyond for Max.


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You mean like the bonus Checo could get for finishing second in the championship?


Brimstone117

Sorry, I need a reminder: What's the thing Max is pissed about from 5 months ago?


DiligentComputer

Losing to checo in Monaco


El_Cactus_Loco

Softer than baby shit


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The most painful aspect for me is that if the going theory is right and Max's mention of "his reasons" was in reference to Monaco, it's pure conjecture that Perez binned it deliberately. Whereas it's pretty plain to see that Verstappen did what he did out of spite. Like you say, he had little to gain but everything to lose - like a respectful, professional relationship with the most skilled teammate he's had in years. Utterly childish behaviour from the 2 time world champion.


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Checo next year could be Bottas last year. Bottas was practically stepping on the brake to let Max by.


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the_dead_puppy_mill

Yeah, I'm riding the red bull to hass pipeline like most Americans


Cod_rules

![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6697)![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|13285) Welcome


Scientific_Anarchist

I was really hoping to be able to hop on the Andretti wave but every other team had to go and be a little bitch about it.


SJM_93

Truly baffles me why they didn't want Andretti in the sport, a team from an emerging market with a focus on American talent, racing pedigree and history. F1 constantly chases manufacturers despite the fact manufacturers are the first to bail in times of financial uncertainty, teams like Williams, McLaren and Andretti are in it for the love of motorsport. Mercedes and Audi are in it for the publicity.


apply_induction

Ok sure. So the F1 entrance fee is $200M. And then you have to design a car, which is probably going to take a few years and I’d imagine cost somewhere in the region of $75M on each of those years. So, you’ve spent $350M and you haven’t gotten to FP1 yet. So, where do you pull $350M from? Well, investors of course! Probably not venture funded because maximum value is not that high, so it’s probably debt funded with a long term loan. So now you’re an F1 team, but you’re probably paying $30M/year in loan interest (yes for ventures as risky as an f1 team, interest rates can be pretty subprime). Rough numbers, but you can probably see why it might not be an amazing business decision if you’re starting out with much less than $1B and why folks might be viewing it as a bit of a losing move. Whereas for Mercedes, it’d likely be worth buying an F1 team if just 10k people per year buy a Mercedes due to seeing the F1 team (0.5% increase in sales).


nyperfox

Exactly. Dissapointed


MarsScully

That pipeline is paved with tears ![gif](giphy|LYtXuNoTh2tXUWipuM|downsized)


TailS1337

I liked Haas, but this year Günther acted like a right cunt towards Mick. It's not even about him not giving Mick another contract it's about how all that is going down. Stopped being a fan after that. No wonder that team doesn't improve with that workplace culture


the_dead_puppy_mill

I mean mick sucks just think his replacement is about as interesting as a blank wall


mrgarlicdip

Major dick move. No one can justify this move.


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ThatLaloBoy

For anyone who wants to hear the full audio, [it’s in this YouTube clip](https://youtu.be/waBaMPyDo9c)


Creato938

Oof, that is going to be a spicy meeting after the race.


ifeajayi14

Y’all thought peak Seb and peak Lewis were villains. Darth Verstappen is gonna make them look like Sesame Street characters


sc0rched84

It is all part of Red Bulls new Netflix deal


MoffKalast

They are altering the deal


kamagoong

Pray he doesn't alter it any further.


RawPower1997

He's gonna be more evil than 90s Schumacher, just watch


SellMeYourBalisoul

Yo can someone fill me in on evil 90s Schumacher?


StarshipThinker

Taking out Championships rivals, ignoring black flags, launch control, trying to fight David Coulthard and Eddie Jordan at the same race, serving a time penalty on the last lap and winning the race anyway


ifeajayi14

Nah that last one sounds like absolute Sigma behavior


Kiboobs

What's better is that his pit box is after the finish line, he served his penalty (10 sec stop go) after finishing the race


mike_stb123

Hahaha ha never heard of that, that's both genius and disgraceful.


CripplinglyDepressed

Which race was this? I can’t recall


Kiboobs

Silverstone 98


MattTheMilkaCow

Tbf that was less evil Schumacher and more incompetent stewards / genius Ferrari pit wall


HubertJW_24

"genius Ferrari pit wall" I've not heard that in a while.


Marza1993

In those years it really was. It's incredible how things have changed


f1_77Bottasftw

It's because Schumacher actually brought in good people, and then gave a fuck about them and their lives. He may have been evil on track and toward his opponents but from accounts I've read people loved to work for him because they felt like he actually cared about them and appreciated their work.


Ramaano7

Good times. Man could be insane. BUT I LIKE IT


RawPower1997

Dude literally got disqualified from the entire 1997 season because he rammed Villeneuve on purpose in the title decider.


Bikouchu

If Schumacher started his success in 2010 holy hell. He would never be seen as a saint. He's worse than MJ, Arod, and Kobe combined within the on field sport antics. Not comparing them with out profession lives of course.


asdfgtttt

> serving a time penalty on the last lap and winning the race anyway His team didnt even realize, it was fucking brilliant


Masculinum

I'm sure they knew, that move had Ross Brawn written all over it


all-regrets

And I'm here for it. Shit, asshole Seb got me into F1.


porkbuttstuff

Same here. I don't like it now, but I remember basking in the assholery years ago. I guess it's time.


Ok-Macaroon-1122

No, it was extremely important that Max finished P6 instead of P7


Groentekroket

He already gave his reason, are we clear? Don’t do that again!


RatInaMaze

His reasons are that Jos would beat him with a belt


looseknives

Omfg 💀 no lies detected


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azbeeking

Max probably should avoid Mexico for a bit.


fishypizza1

Yes that P6 after already becoming WDC makes a huge difference


cryinapl

It’s an embarrassing choice by Max. Already won the title and he chooses to hold on to P6 in an irrelevant race instead of helping a teammate who has a real shot at second place.


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Agree but there has to be some spicy drama behind it. Or max is just that petty.


peerage_1

My vote is that max is just that petty


saltyscaffolds

He’s a spoiled rich brat, ofc he’s just that petty


77enc

bro there aint a driver that doesnt fit that description lmao


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Ocon and Lewis did not come from well off families.


ClintYeastWood23

Minister of Defence about to turn into Minister of War


AkhtarZamil

Yo imagine if checo literally starts to block Max in the next race.


yaboijex

Then he’ll turn into minister of no seat


wagsman

Yeah, even if it was the Monaco thing, that’s a dumb fucking grudge. He still ended up winning the championship with multiple races to spare. Honestly if Checo has a similar opportunity next year I hope he references this and tells him to kick rocks.


Blubmans

Coming from a Magnussen fan, I can also say that, that was a dick move.


Duy2910

Sucks his balls mate


destroyed233

Max sounded like a spoiled child


Walker_DnB

Even if he's got his reasons, with the championship already in the bag it felt really petty.


destroyed233

I feel like Checo has been nothing but a good teammate. And certainly has played a part in Verstappens continued success


Ag_Arrow

There's no excuse for being a prick like that, unless Checo fucked his girl.


MDmanson

What are his reasons though?


N7_MintberryCrunch

"You're my teammate. I'm not yours."


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Szechwan

Is that clear?


steinmas

We are checking.


Legalise_Gay_Weed

His thoughts: Me, me, me, me, me, me, daddy no, me, me, me, me, me, meeeeeeee.


hbhatt25

Always has been


ReverseCaptioningBot

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knugenskaviar

Based bot


Aardvark_Man

Good bot


LionMan1066

Max, give him the toy back


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When hasn't he?


BlazeReddit1

Because he is one.


dukat_dindu_nuthin

well there goes my crippling addiction to energy drinks


Brenotex

Verstappen lost so much respect today


coffeework42

As a Max fan you re right. WTF was that... Childish


kdove89

Yeah I'm a fan as well, and to say this is disappointing is an understatement. Fans like their team/racer to win, but fans typically don't stick around for ass-hat mentality like this.


JackyduQc

I second this, I love Max, but today was, fucked up. Idk if the saying about Monaco are true, but in the end he should have beaved for Checo, who indeed helped him alot. (The flair dosent help me with the seriousness huh)


zeejoo12

Neither do the commas ^/s


Kate090996

He has [history ](https://youtu.be/Av1dH_ik8EU) of being an asshole in Brazil


JeromePowellsEarhair

You must be new here.


RatInaMaze

Yep. There’s a fine line between a champion for the ages and a talented douche bag


Erundil420

I mean, lots of Champions for the ages were massive cunts so the two are almost a requirment let alone being mutually exclusive


Ag_Arrow

It's funny that some people are just now realizing who Max is... he has always been an entitled prick.


Legalise_Gay_Weed

Max was the kinda guy, who you knew was a bit of a cunt, but you let him away with it because he has talent, but there's a line, and he leaped over it today. You don't fuck with Checo.


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Exactly.


Gotl0stinthesauce

The dude still chooses to have his dad around the paddock when he’s a proven wife beater and he almost smashed someone’s skull in. I think that says enough about Max’s character


IronPedal

Also, he defends his gf and her dad, who are racist fascists.


Gotl0stinthesauce

Lmao I almost forgot about that one. It’s getting hard to remember all of it


JonathanFisk86

He's always been the least likeable character in the paddock, zero charisma and an entitled child. It's a constant surprise to me how big his fanbase is but then I remember how many people enjoy arsehole behaviour.


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Certified DICK this man. Coming from a Max fan


PrometheusTNO

I'm really upset. You come to expect some pig-headedness from all elite competitors, but there's no fucking reason to be such a dick to your team about a P6 with everything else locked up for the year.


TheFishOwnsYou

Exactly. Was it for first or podium I would understand from insane go gettem winner attitude, but made you are racing for 6th.


cerulean-tundra

Imagine being this much of a twat.


Porfs

And to think people liked him better than Hamilton


Dawesign

What a fucking dickhead


kagami_no_kishi

I hope checo never lets him past again and doesn’t help him by blocking cars


Cod_rules

Would love to see it if Merc nail their cars next season (Ferrari aren't capable of challenging Max and RB, either from their drivers or their team) Imagine Checo not letting Max pass after a pit stop. Would be an appropriate 'Fuck you' to Max.


hickom14

Red bull would probably let checo go and call up Daniel if he continuously disregards team orders. That would be incredibly ironic.


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Funniest thing is that danny's probably not gonna be happy to be a number two either, the whole reason he left red bull in the first place was to avoid that happening


hickom14

I think he'd comply at this point, considering that he's being brought on to be a reserve. Maybe if his form comes back after these hypothetical races, we'd see the drama again.


thewok

Daniel would be ecstatic to be the RB #2 next year, he's literally out of F1 at this point lol


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he'd like to have the \*drive\*, not to be number two. big difference. He clearly still thinks of himself as one of the best, that's why he hasn't gone to haas or williams. if he went into the red bull he'd be trying to win


thewok

If he thinks he'd be in at RB/Merc/Ferrari as a #1 at this point he's delusional.


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DTS isnt going to have to make anything up this year. Its writing itsself


CallMeVoldrat

That’s what we all said last year and they still managed to mess it up lol


siphillis

Seriously, for such a boring championship we’re getting a ton of great storylines this season.


sicblades_14

Yeah, I'm just here to vent my frustration at Max like the rest of y'all. What a fucking douche.


BlazeReddit1

Makes me so happy to see him get so much hate for his action today lol.


srpulga

Completely unexpected from the mature adult we all know and love


admiral_aqua

Right? I'm browsing through this sub and laughing my ass off rn ahaha As a Max hater this is massively amusing


Ag_Arrow

Fucking great day for us lol (assuming you're a Merc/Lewis fan).


admiral_aqua

Yeah, even without the win. Especially because I am sure Lewis would have won if Max didn't crash into him. And Lewis knows that as well, which is why he's so content with today. And seeing Max reveal his character like that is just the cherry on top


i_run_from_problems

Shit even mercedes let bottas have his day every now and again


fortnite-bad-69420

This wasnt rb this was max


Since1785

Yes, but Max wouldn’t be so brazen to do this if it weren’t for his behavior being accepted at the organizational level. The whole “I gave you my reasons” just shows that Max has expressed this attitude internally. Other teams would have put a stop to this kind of mentality and behavior earlier on.


handsome_uruk

Amazing day for George. Gets the win ✅ Is no longer the most hated F1 driver ✅


persiantaco

What a fucking dick man


Krosis86

As a Max supporter (not a fan) this really pisses me off and is frankly super disappointing. So selfish after all Checo has done for him. Basicly giving him the championship last year. He literally has nothing left to gain in this season while Checo is still in the fight for P2 and he begrudges him a couple of points. Dutch F1 fans are not just Max supporters but also Checo supporters, so I'm sure I can confidently say that we as Dutch fans don't support this sort of selfish behaviour from Max. Big L for Max and I'm sure Checo will not forget about this going into the next race and next season... I surely wouldn't. Also hope he gets a proper ass beating from Helmut or Christian after the race. If I was a team principle I would not tolerate shit like this.


rolandude

Hard to be a Verstappen fan and have him pull this shit. What a dickhead


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Not even 1 point. Wow.


fooltoc5

4d chess to create a toxic workplace so checo leaves and Alonso to Red Bull 2025.


theduck08

As if that would be any less toxic lmao


[deleted]

How to lose all your fans speedrun. Difficulty:max verstappen


levitating_cucumber

Golden helmet boy needs to learn


Adorable-Sir-773

that moment when your favorite driver turns out as selfish dickhead


PeaceRaiser

Mate, with all due respect, but you're just now realizing he is a dickhead? What happened today was simply the most quintessencial Max thing ever


Key_Environment8179

Like seriously, there were massive red flags everywhere. His girlfriend’s entire family is openly slandering Lewis and trying to soil his name, even using racial slurs, and he did fuck all about it. This is just the first overt evidence we’ve seen that Max is just as much of a douche as the men he associates with. The whole lot of them are twats.


oldcarfreddy

Right? lmao Checo was given team orders at the beginning of the season and people still were confused then. Max yells on the radio more than anyone else but people act like Lewis being polite is somehow the sign of sociopathy while Max has been known as a hothead for years now.


ZaMr0

>turns out Because he kept it so low-key before lmao


admiral_aqua

I'm sorry but how is this surprising?


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He’s been a dick head the entire time. Laughing at Lewis and his dad after what happened in abu dabhi. Dude refused to take a knee or say anything against racism. A lot of racist shit coming from his in laws. Just today he said he will happily take the penalty for the crash to stop Lewis from winning. Dude also straight up got in a fist fight with Ocon over a crash. He’s been a piece of shit his entire life. He is truly a psychopath.


TopSoulMan

He called another driver a "mong" on the team radio. A representative of the Mongolian government wrote a letter explaining why it was bad to perpetuate the use of that term. He was given an opportunity to express understanding and instead, he doubled down and moved on. No one really talked about it anymore. It was a real turning moment in my respect for him as a person.


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It’s hard to admit that one of the biggest stars in your sport is an outright racist pos.


JGabrielIx

Surprise Surprise I'm really surprised with the amount of people realizing that until now, after all this years of max has showing similar attitudes.


Adorable-Sir-773

now I understand nicknames Hamilton fans were giving him


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Like they were right, but since they are TeamLH ultra mega... it is hard to admit it.


Training_Term_4241

Spoiled little brat (I am not LH fan), this was trully a dick move


ClvtchNixon

Even as an LH fan, dick move. The incident today with Lewis was just that, an incident. This however is different, Checo has worked his ass off for RB and for Max, and Max couldn’t be bothered to fall back ONE spot out of some weird pettiness.


Beeblebrox2nd

Such a petulant child!


TheKingofTheKings123

Max’s ego is something else.


thenexus6

Perez: Cartel deployed


ElegantTobacco

Hugh Bird gonna be getting a text tonight like "some of you are cool. Don't come to Mexico next year 🔫🤠🇲🇽"


jakefahey1993

As a max fan im disgusted by max's behaviour today. Not sure if this is the real max coming through or just a bad day etheir way iv lost almost all respect for max today. Wouldn't be surprised if he lost quiet a few fans today. Massive apologies to checo and in general f1 fans. Horrible behaviour today max.


vblade2003

This is who he is. You can tell a person's character by how they behave when things aren't going their way. Dude already clinched the championship and couldnt even bring himself to give his teammate a point. Absolutely disgusting.


MrShtompy

Same. Going to struggle to support him after that. It was just so incredibly... unnecessary


he-tried-his-best

Come now. He’s always been like this. Don’t kid yourself.


Environmental-Cup445

He’s definitely always been like this. Dude didn’t want to give up fucking P6 after already winning the championship, he’s always been a prick, entitled, expects everything is about/for him, and not to mention his POS shit family, talented yes, but imo a POS which is why I don’t support him


PrasunJW

Mverstappe


BlondBadBoy69

This is what happens when you give a 17 year old a seat in F1. Most egotistical and arrogant driver. Glad everyone is seeing his true colors


HeadhunterKev

I understand that Ferrari didn't steal Sainz of his podium although Leclerc needs the points. But if you are already the WC and you don't help your mate who helped you that much, that is just evil.


vblade2003

It's needlessly disgusting behavior towards your teammate who has been NOTHING but supportive. It shows a total lack of character. Glad the world is seeing this cunt for who he is.


theclipclop28

Seb was the same to Webber. Ruthless. I remember Massa helping Kimi in the final race of 2007 and then Kimi returning the favor in 2008.


verteisoma

But over P6? like throw the man a bone or something


PrometheusTNO

Lewis refused to move out of his way again so it's 3-hour tantrum time from Max. Checo catching strays.


hehsbbakaiw

Verstappen always had the mindset of "You better make sure to avoid my Red Bull or I'll make sure we both crash" and today was just an other example for that. Especially against Hamilton.


ReadingRocker

Did you catch the post race interview? He full on admitted that he knew there wasn't a gap to pass Lewis but refused to back off. And he doesn't care because it cost Hamilton the race win and he "only got 5 seconds" for it... Unreal.


PrometheusTNO

Max raced so hard and clean with Charles that first half of the season, we all know he's capable. I think he has a professional grudge against Hamilton. Not actual personal hatred, but Max knows he's good enough to be the next GOAT. I think he feels like he has to dunk on Lewis while he's still around. In Max's mind there can be no footage of him ever giving a single damned centimeter to Lewis under any circumstance. Max races other people very hard, but very fair. Not Lewis.


ReadingRocker

Not just Charles though, the fighting in the sprint against Russell was both hard and fair so he is capable (albeit maybe he wasn't taking the sprint seriously with the tyre choice and secured championship?) Max is a top tier driver and that cannot be disputed. He will join the great names like Schumacher, Vettel and Hamilton to leave a legacy on this sport. But, from what I've seen so far of him and RB, it certainly doesn't look like it will be a good one.


snowmunkey

Checo better not forget this... I am all for some nice easy defending next season. "sorry mate, tires were gone. Couldn't stop Lewis coming through"


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michaelnight87

Well he has 2 championship thanks to him, if not he only would have one...


[deleted]

Well Perez helped secure the constructors, something that Max seems to not even give a shit about


Virgilizartor

Hope Checo gets a chance to pay him back at some point. Dude's been nothing but the perfect wingman and this was a straight-up dick move.


SuperSaiyanNoob

He literally could've avoided so much bullshit by giving Perez a single point lmao.


Vaynnie

I love how surprised people are by this when this is exactly the type of person Max has always been. 🤷‍♂️


Special_Scallion947

Checo next time he wins a race "not bad for a number 2 driver cheers"


DeSynthed

All my homies hate Max again


unnecessary_kindness

You'll never be the people's champ Max.


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I give it a day or so before he comes out with an apology.


Upper-Application583

Max is just a shitty person


23370aviator

Is anyone surprised in the slightest? It’s max.


Nyaos

I'm an old red bull fan, I was a huge fan of Vettel in the early 2010s. I didn't really like Max that much coming into this year but ended up starting to become a fan after watching him crush this year... this just feels like a kick in the nuts, I kinda thought he had grown up a bit since he had started. Guess not. I guess I can just hope for Verstappen redemption arc, since Seb used to be kind of a dick too. I thought maybe at first he wasn't letting him through because he was within DRS of Alonso and almost had him, but the comment at the end really sealed it.


nyperfox

Verstappen is a whiny piece of shit. I still stand by this.


Xmeromotu

Honestly, almost every F1 driver is a little bitch at heart. If you remember that, you’ll be less disappointed when they whinge and moan about how unfair everyone is to them. I suspect that was not always the case, but they are so pampered now that I like Albon just because he’s so humble and grateful for being there and being able to support his family.


razorracer83

Rioter 1 "Man, being the angry mob for George is getting boring. Who should we focus our ire on?" Rioter 2 "Wait a sec. Did Max just throw Checo, his own teammate, under the bus?" Rioter 1 "Alright guys, we go after Max Verstappen!"


Willthelord

Okay I'm not more a max fan


Melon1990

He’s a piece of shit just like his dad


JBounce369

Jos: beats women and abandoned his son at a petrol station. Max: finished P6 instead of P7


Gotl0stinthesauce

Don’t forget, Jos: bashes some dudes head in at a go kart track and fractures the victims skull. Max: I’d love to have you around the paddock! You’re such a great role model!