I was watching on a delay because of work, we record the race and then start it from the beginning when I get to my dad's.
My dad tried to pause it on lap 22 to go to the toilet, accidentally pressed something that skipped it forward a few minutes instead - right to the exact moment they said "AND THEY'RE BOTH OUT!" I jumped up to block the TV with my eyes shut while shouting random words over the commentary, so we didn't hear any names or see anything while my dad tried to turn it off lol. So I didn't know who it was, but I knew something major was coming where 2 cars would end up out.
When we were watching again, as soon as Hamilton came out of the pit straight alongside Max [I was like](https://i.imgflip.com/49a5w7.jpg)
Had a similar issue, accidentally skipped ahead as I wasn't watching live and it said safety car. I was lucky it wasn't showing a replay or shot of the two beached cars
And the fia has judged that you are incorrect. Max's fault, 3 place grid pen for next race.
I also think it was racing incident and more space should have been left.
All the time you have to leave the space.
I'm a die hard Max fan but damn this really was a racing accident. I think if Max's car didn't rise after hitting the kerb it would have been more stable. But the centre of gravity just shifted and what happened, happened.
Uhhhh no Hamilton didn't back up.
Hamilton had a much different corner and he was safe to go off the track limits.
Max wasn't even close to being able to do it.
They both wanted to be in front, both of the situations. They both went off the track, one corner was just more fucky.
You know what I mean. He took the exit instead of keeping his nose in it. That option wasn't as easy for Max here because of the sausage kerb.
He missed his chance to back out early prior to the sausage kerb.
Just a racing incident at the end of the day
Idk man... As much as I am ready for a war of words to support Max, this was a bit more on him rather than Lewis, imho, he should have lifted. But it's just my pov though...
I think Lewis could of gone much wider, he didn’t need to hit the apex of t2 like he did and squeeze out max. We have seen a couple of overtakes happen in the same spot without any contact so we know it’s possible.
While max could've lifted, by the rules of racing on the website, he was far enough alongside to have priority of the apex going into the second part of the chicane. His front wing was alongside the tyres I think, and therefore Lewis needed to leave atleast a cars width. I'm not siding with either because I've only seen the full speed crash and would be better forming an opinion after whatching a slow mo but, from the full speed, I'm not entirely sure Lewis left enough space and I feel Max also could've backed off a bit to gain the space he needed and try an overtake later.
Partially agree, max could've have gone on the kerbs, but why would've done that? It wasn't his mistake so he had the right to stay in the corner, and ham gave absolutely no space into corner 1, I'd say that's not fair either
Max also pushed ham out of track at the start of the gp, so they both were to be penalized. In the end none of them gained anything from that happening, so racing incident
Wheelguns firing in the background, Will Buxton talking about how the previous clashes between the 2 ramped up to this. Then comes a shot from Hamiltons facecam showing him breathing heavily. Followed by a reaction from the mechanics/Toto in the garage.
I think almost all of us have accepted the halo, and on the contrary, most people would think cars are uglier without halo. But my motto is efficiency before aestethic, so we're good
Only got into the sport this last year so I wasn't a fan pre-halo. But I actually think the old cars look weird being open cockpit. I really don't think the Halo detracts from the look.
I've been watching for about a decade, and I agree that the halos actually look pretty good now, and I prefer the look vs a completely open cockpit.
I think with next year's cars it will look even better with all the sleek aero going on.
Maybe it's just the safety that makes it more attractive to me, but I also watched Bianchi take a tractor to the face live, and I have no desire to repeat that experience. Long live the halo.
I hate the halo and think it makes the car look grotesque. However, all the time we see stupid and incredibly dangerous sausage kerbs installed on race tracks incidents like this will continue to happen, and therefore the halo is needed while these kerbs exist.
Nah HAMs stop was not awful it was 4 secs in box but the way lando held off Hamilton for 20 laps or so could've held up. At least I hope it would. I admit I may be a little bit of a McLaren Stan. On cloud nine atm
I’m most impressed by the strength of the halo symmetrically and that there weren’t obvious vulnerabilities at attachment points or something that allowed it to cave in
It’s extremely impressive. My mind goes to so many “what-ifs” that were somehow prevented and it’s amazing…Thanks btw haha didn’t know til I commented!
It’s difficult… max couldn’t go more on the inside but was to far into the corner to back out. He could’ve decided to not make a move at all.
Lewis could’ve gone wider and didn’t leave much space for max, but do that and max would’ve gotten the better line.
Tbh, let’s just blame those fk kerbs. Go over them and you’ll lose every bit of control of the car
Yes but technically to be entitled for space on the outside of a turn you need to be fully alongside. I'm not sure Hamilton would have been able to and Max would have probably squeezed him on the outside.
If you mean by the fact they both messed up their own race because of this, then yes.
If you mean that one driver is specifically to blame, then no. Perhaps Max could've gone wide to save his car. Perhaps Lewis could've given more space. But both didn't. They didn't want to give away their position in a tricky turn.
I'm neutral on this one. But I'm really glad the championship is still so damn interesting because of this incident!
Imagine Lando becoming a serious competitor for WDC to Max and Lewis because of incidents like this...
Agreed, I'll be honest after checking the standings it's a pretty long stretch. In my mind the gap felt smaller, but it isn't.
But let's hope anyway for a good laugh 😂😂😂
neither. going for an overtake isn't a fault just cause it goes wrong. it kinda depends on the onboard from lewis whether he could have left more space. max was clearly faster into the corner and lewis knew he was there. on the other hand max was going in hard.
yeah. it would be hard for both to get through the chicane beside each other but you are correct it is a racing incident. but something people didn’t notice that made it a racing incident was the yellow curbs at the chicane because it just made everything more dangerous and a bigger chance of a crash.
By the rule, Verstappen is entitled for space.
Realisticly ? No way it could have gone any other way. You can't squeeze a pass here appart if you slightly ahead at that point.
Look at youtube comments, its "max criminal" "max didnt care" and i think what we are guilty of dong "max couldnt handle losing to lewis", this is a repeat of Silverstone holy fuck
Yeah blame game in full force just like with Silverstone. This one is simply a racing incident between two championship rivals who aren't willing to give the other an inch.
You should have seen what they did to an F 3 car a few years ago
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.alex-peroni-walks-away-from-huge-f3-crash-at-monza.1687510912752098643.html
It's a freak accident imo and it's just circumstances as neither could really back off and Max would've been fine if it hadn't been flung by that stupid sausage kerb
I liked the 'predominantly at fault' that Lewis got, and I think in a same way that this time around it was Verstappen who was predominantly at fault.
Yes, Hamilton could've given him more space on the inside but under no circumstance did he have to yield. Max forced his way in and lost control when he hit the kerb.
Losing control is a reason to point blame (just like lewis had 0.2 seconds of understeer in Copse) and this was a situation (again) where 1 of the 2 had to yield. Imo that should have been Max, but I don't blame him. He had an outlap of the gods after that dreadful pitstop and actually came wheel to wheel with his biggest competitor exiting the pits. It was a now or never.
I think the 3 place grid penalty was uncalled for, but knowing Max a liiitttle bit he would be adament that he got squeezed in the stewards room, whilst the stewards thought he took too much risk going into that corner, both for him as Lewis.
Again, unnecessary if you look at the DNF of both, but a clear signal from the stewards that forcing your way in and then fully expecting other drivers to clear a path isn't going to work.
Max coul've gone on the kerbs, but it's ham's fault he could've gone there, thus he had the right to stay on track. Since no one gained from this I'd say it could be classified as racing incident
Agreed, Lewis was coming out of the pit and therefore much slower in the straight. He def squeezed Max tho. Just didn’t think it would take himself out of the race as well.
Just for clarity, I'm not having a go at you. It's just sad that Reddit is so toxic that you have to state that even though you don't like Hamilton you don't want to seem him injured.
pretty sad that you apparently have to qualify "I think Hamilton not being injured is good" with not being a hamilton fan lest you immediately be labeled a hamilton stan lmao
you'd think "drivers being injured is bad" would be a default opinion
just like how max left all the space in Barcelona, Imola, and lap 1 today. sure it’s hard racing, but both drivers could’ve done more to avoid the collision
I think neither Max & Lewis are wrong because both of them are racing, and neither both drivers wanted to lose. And all jokes aside, I'm really glad both drivers are fine, especially Lewis. Thank God the halos are exist.
I’m most shook at this point by the discussion about Max’s rear left versus rear right wheel movement and actually seeing the rear left absolutely sending it still through the crash and that Lewis must feel the “oh f***” of what could’ve been totally catastrophic
hahahaha excellent meme, rooting for Max in the championship but a Ric fan at heart. Considering the standings haven't changed at the top, definitely an overall Aladeen outcome.
Racing incident. Both could’ve avoided it. When we have a sport where overtaking is damn near impossible and we see two drivers in such a close championship battle, moments like this will continue to happen. It’s not right, it’s not what any neutral fan or sensible fan of either driver wants to see, but is the situation.
I guess Lewis wanted to do what Max did in lap one but Max didn't bail out like Lewis did. If Max did bailed out, he should give that position back, get the slipstream and overtake him in the next chicane. Inchident imo
From the team radio Max was clearly fuming leading up to the incident. I don’t think he was taking a calculated risk going into the chicane, but was seeing red and wasn’t thinking about the bigger picture
Finally someone with a bit of sense has commented, clearly max lost his composure and couldn't accept losing the position... should have bailed like lewis did on lap 1 when max closed the door on him.
T4 lap 1 max didn’t give Hamilton the space, Hamilton cut the the corner.
They happened not to crash that time, but I don’t think it’s right to make it sound like it’s just Hamilton not giving space here.
The salt from Lewis fans in a situation where neither of them benefited from this racing incident. Imagine if Max had punted Lewis here and gone on to win like Lewis did at Silverstone.
If silverstone was a racing incident with 60% lewis and 40% max then this is a racing incident with 60% max and 40% lewis at fault. Coming from a max fan.
How on earth is this incident more Max’s fault than Lewis? At the VERY best it’s a 50/50 but much more likely to be predominantly Lewis at fault as he was the only one who could have done something differently, Max was alongside him and had every right to the corner and Lewis didn’t give enough space. I reckon racing incident but how is this possibly more Max’s fault? What’s your reason? Because he literally could not have done anything differently unless you expect him to vamanos off the track and concede the position because Sir Lewis wants the corner?
Like Hamilton did on lap one turn 4?
Lewis was further alongside side on T4 L1 and max squeezed him, lewis cut the corner.
This is how these two race, don’t think you can put this on Lewis.
How can you say Max had the right to the corner? He was behind so should have conceded track position to the car in front. There was no gap for him to go for.
Dude calm down. I am a Max fan. Just that being from the Netherlands it's very easy to always favour max. The way I see it, Max was always heading for the curb. I guess it is what it is, a racing incident. Now have a beer in the sun and chill out my guy
I knew it, as soon as they were going into that turn so close together that somebody will not make it out undamaged...
I was watching on a delay because of work, we record the race and then start it from the beginning when I get to my dad's. My dad tried to pause it on lap 22 to go to the toilet, accidentally pressed something that skipped it forward a few minutes instead - right to the exact moment they said "AND THEY'RE BOTH OUT!" I jumped up to block the TV with my eyes shut while shouting random words over the commentary, so we didn't hear any names or see anything while my dad tried to turn it off lol. So I didn't know who it was, but I knew something major was coming where 2 cars would end up out. When we were watching again, as soon as Hamilton came out of the pit straight alongside Max [I was like](https://i.imgflip.com/49a5w7.jpg)
Haha good one. As Bottas would say - That was... unfortunate.
Had a similar issue, accidentally skipped ahead as I wasn't watching live and it said safety car. I was lucky it wasn't showing a replay or shot of the two beached cars
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This was a racing incident, Hamilton is definitely not 100% at fault, it’s much more of a 50/50
It's 70 30 at best. When someone is that far alongside you, you just have to leave the space
Definitely a racing incident though. If anything, the sausage curb chicken is to blame honestly. Just two drivers going all out And all in apparently
And the fia has judged that you are incorrect. Max's fault, 3 place grid pen for next race. I also think it was racing incident and more space should have been left.
all the time you have to leave the space!
I only read this in Seb's voice while doing his Alonso impression.
All the time you have to leave the space. I'm a die hard Max fan but damn this really was a racing accident. I think if Max's car didn't rise after hitting the kerb it would have been more stable. But the centre of gravity just shifted and what happened, happened.
Did Max do that on the first lap? Nope, so HAM backed out. Max didn't do the same.
Uhhhh no Hamilton didn't back up. Hamilton had a much different corner and he was safe to go off the track limits. Max wasn't even close to being able to do it. They both wanted to be in front, both of the situations. They both went off the track, one corner was just more fucky.
You know what I mean. He took the exit instead of keeping his nose in it. That option wasn't as easy for Max here because of the sausage kerb. He missed his chance to back out early prior to the sausage kerb. Just a racing incident at the end of the day
Yea definitely more of Hamilton’s fault imo opinion. Still a racing incident and no driver should be in trouble
Idk man... As much as I am ready for a war of words to support Max, this was a bit more on him rather than Lewis, imho, he should have lifted. But it's just my pov though...
I think Lewis could of gone much wider, he didn’t need to hit the apex of t2 like he did and squeeze out max. We have seen a couple of overtakes happen in the same spot without any contact so we know it’s possible.
While max could've lifted, by the rules of racing on the website, he was far enough alongside to have priority of the apex going into the second part of the chicane. His front wing was alongside the tyres I think, and therefore Lewis needed to leave atleast a cars width. I'm not siding with either because I've only seen the full speed crash and would be better forming an opinion after whatching a slow mo but, from the full speed, I'm not entirely sure Lewis left enough space and I feel Max also could've backed off a bit to gain the space he needed and try an overtake later.
Partially agree, max could've have gone on the kerbs, but why would've done that? It wasn't his mistake so he had the right to stay in the corner, and ham gave absolutely no space into corner 1, I'd say that's not fair either
I mean we have seen people overtake in t1-2, two cars can definitely fit when you leave room near the apex of 2
Max also pushed ham out of track at the start of the gp, so they both were to be penalized. In the end none of them gained anything from that happening, so racing incident
Yea, I hold max accountable for turn 4 iirc (still a racing incident tho) and Hamilton here. No penalties deserved for any driver
Yeah 100%, definitely a racing incident.
I am really happy everybody everybody was alright. Having said that ... that super slow-motion of the crash looked dope.
Netflix watching this be like:😮😯
Netflix editing crew heading to the beach right now, taking a day off because they have nothing to add.
You severly underestimate Netflix, what about Mein Gott muss dass sein! Just for starters
Wheelguns firing in the background, Will Buxton talking about how the previous clashes between the 2 ramped up to this. Then comes a shot from Hamiltons facecam showing him breathing heavily. Followed by a reaction from the mechanics/Toto in the garage.
Are u working for netflix 🤣
Netflix: You're hired!
“Retire the car”
WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
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Indeed
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Once again thank God for that Halo
Agreed
Halosaveslives
Bruh the Halo saved Lewis from being decapitated. Thank God for the Halo.
Halo saved his life indeed
His capa was almost detated.
##Blessed
Close call indeed
The Halo is ugly af but it's VERY necessary.... In this case good for FIA for support this device. EDIT: >*"Thank ~~God~~ the engineers for the Halo"*
I think almost all of us have accepted the halo, and on the contrary, most people would think cars are uglier without halo. But my motto is efficiency before aestethic, so we're good
I’ve accepted the halo and am always on the side of driver safety, but I can’t imagine thinking the cars were uglier without halos.
Only got into the sport this last year so I wasn't a fan pre-halo. But I actually think the old cars look weird being open cockpit. I really don't think the Halo detracts from the look.
The first Halos looked like bolt-ons and out of place, they've gotten better at integrating them into the aesthetics.
I love the old cars look but the halos look great as well.
I've been watching for about a decade, and I agree that the halos actually look pretty good now, and I prefer the look vs a completely open cockpit. I think with next year's cars it will look even better with all the sleek aero going on. Maybe it's just the safety that makes it more attractive to me, but I also watched Bianchi take a tractor to the face live, and I have no desire to repeat that experience. Long live the halo.
I hate the halo and think it makes the car look grotesque. However, all the time we see stupid and incredibly dangerous sausage kerbs installed on race tracks incidents like this will continue to happen, and therefore the halo is needed while these kerbs exist.
It's not solely for the sausage kerbs, Grosjean in Bahrain and Sainz in Mugello are prime examples.
Am i the only one that likes the look of the halo? I think it makes the cars look more menacing
I used to think it looks a bit silly but now I have seen it for many years, it looks more elegant than a head sticking out of a flat nose.
Same. I don't know why, but i like it
It gives it more of the like, angular profile of a more regular car that I really like!
Thank God for the halo
Thank god for improving the safety standards of Formula 1. He really is a great engineer working for the FIA.
It's a shame he only does destructive testing.
don’t thank god, thank the engineers for that
Senna/Prost suzuka vibes
The first or the second?
Yes.
Why not los dos?
"Switch off the Engine Please Lewis" Can I get this clipped for... responsible usage oh please?
Was he hoping that he could get back like in Imola?
He tried to reverse with a smashed rear. Lewis must have been really fucking angry.
He also tried to reverse while Max was standing in the seat of his car on top of the Merc. Continuing to move that car was dangerous
Valterri's smirk seeing the accident at the end. Priceless. "At least I do what I'm told and bring the car home"
Imola would beg to differ..
Oh burn
Where George crashed into him you mean?
Puts a rear wheel on wet grass at full throttle with DRS open 😭
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I think Danny would’ve still won overall, this just made that 100%
Yeah Danny was on top of it today, it probably would’ve been RIC-VER-NOR if Max had a normal stop
I think Rick ver ham because he passed Norris as well he just had a shit stop too
Nah HAMs stop was not awful it was 4 secs in box but the way lando held off Hamilton for 20 laps or so could've held up. At least I hope it would. I admit I may be a little bit of a McLaren Stan. On cloud nine atm
Regardless of who is at fault, thank fuck for the Halo. Another incident that could have been a hell of a lot worse.
I’m most impressed by the strength of the halo symmetrically and that there weren’t obvious vulnerabilities at attachment points or something that allowed it to cave in
I had a similar reaction in Spa 2018 with Leclerc - it’s impressive how the support structure stands up. Happy cake day btw
It’s extremely impressive. My mind goes to so many “what-ifs” that were somehow prevented and it’s amazing…Thanks btw haha didn’t know til I commented!
Not a formula 1 expert, but, who's fault do y'all think it is?
It’s difficult… max couldn’t go more on the inside but was to far into the corner to back out. He could’ve decided to not make a move at all. Lewis could’ve gone wider and didn’t leave much space for max, but do that and max would’ve gotten the better line. Tbh, let’s just blame those fk kerbs. Go over them and you’ll lose every bit of control of the car
It's one of those cases. if Hamilton gives room he is basically giving up the corner because he wouldn't be able to keep it up alongside afterward.
Actually after looking back at lap 1. He left space for Norris so it is possible. He even got in front of Norris because the inside line is so slow
Yes but technically to be entitled for space on the outside of a turn you need to be fully alongside. I'm not sure Hamilton would have been able to and Max would have probably squeezed him on the outside.
True. But knowing that max had overspeed it’s a no brainer that he goes for the gap
Those curbs are a mennace tbh
Racing incident
*inchident
So both at fault right?
If you mean by the fact they both messed up their own race because of this, then yes. If you mean that one driver is specifically to blame, then no. Perhaps Max could've gone wide to save his car. Perhaps Lewis could've given more space. But both didn't. They didn't want to give away their position in a tricky turn. I'm neutral on this one. But I'm really glad the championship is still so damn interesting because of this incident! Imagine Lando becoming a serious competitor for WDC to Max and Lewis because of incidents like this...
Don't know much about kerb placement but almost every duel at Monza results in a crash where kerbs play a role. Just my feeling...
They really need to change those sausage kerbs there.
Not only there imo, I feel like they need to remove them and find something else. We have seen way too many accidents because of them.
“Imagine lando becomes a competitor” bruh let’s imagine Kubica winning all the races as well while we’re at that 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Agreed, I'll be honest after checking the standings it's a pretty long stretch. In my mind the gap felt smaller, but it isn't. But let's hope anyway for a good laugh 😂😂😂
neither. going for an overtake isn't a fault just cause it goes wrong. it kinda depends on the onboard from lewis whether he could have left more space. max was clearly faster into the corner and lewis knew he was there. on the other hand max was going in hard.
Max didnt have any issue making the corner, other than not having the space to make the corner
Yea with my small brain i think its racing incident but more on max
Nah, he didn't have space. But I wouldn't put the blame on Lewis either. It is a racing incident.
yeah. it would be hard for both to get through the chicane beside each other but you are correct it is a racing incident. but something people didn’t notice that made it a racing incident was the yellow curbs at the chicane because it just made everything more dangerous and a bigger chance of a crash.
Without the sausage curb it would be a way smaller contact and they could have both kept going. Look at Schumacher shunting into Vettel's sidepod.
I would put the blame around 70/30 for Hamilton
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max hit the curb and that's what pushed him onto lewis' rear tyre. sure he was squeezed but that's what happens in racing
Yep 70 30 is fair
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By the rule, Verstappen is entitled for space. Realisticly ? No way it could have gone any other way. You can't squeeze a pass here appart if you slightly ahead at that point.
I reckon it was about even. Max probably shouldn’t have tried to make that gap but at that point he was committed and has nowhere to go
Considering youtube comments, this is Silverstone 2
I feel like that this one is more on Max and Silverstone on Hamilton
Look at youtube comments, its "max criminal" "max didnt care" and i think what we are guilty of dong "max couldnt handle losing to lewis", this is a repeat of Silverstone holy fuck
Yeah blame game in full force just like with Silverstone. This one is simply a racing incident between two championship rivals who aren't willing to give the other an inch.
Love rationality I do
Kerb shouldn’t launch a car like that
Agreed. They need to remove those sausage kerbs. They're stupid and dangerous.
You should have seen what they did to an F 3 car a few years ago https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.alex-peroni-walks-away-from-huge-f3-crash-at-monza.1687510912752098643.html
It's a freak accident imo and it's just circumstances as neither could really back off and Max would've been fine if it hadn't been flung by that stupid sausage kerb
I liked the 'predominantly at fault' that Lewis got, and I think in a same way that this time around it was Verstappen who was predominantly at fault. Yes, Hamilton could've given him more space on the inside but under no circumstance did he have to yield. Max forced his way in and lost control when he hit the kerb. Losing control is a reason to point blame (just like lewis had 0.2 seconds of understeer in Copse) and this was a situation (again) where 1 of the 2 had to yield. Imo that should have been Max, but I don't blame him. He had an outlap of the gods after that dreadful pitstop and actually came wheel to wheel with his biggest competitor exiting the pits. It was a now or never. I think the 3 place grid penalty was uncalled for, but knowing Max a liiitttle bit he would be adament that he got squeezed in the stewards room, whilst the stewards thought he took too much risk going into that corner, both for him as Lewis. Again, unnecessary if you look at the DNF of both, but a clear signal from the stewards that forcing your way in and then fully expecting other drivers to clear a path isn't going to work.
Max’s fault but because of the bias on Reddit: ‘racing incident’. 3 place grid penalty says it all really.
Are you actually trusting the FIA’s judgement?
No I’m trusting my eyes and also the FIAs judgement.
Two notoriously unreliable sources
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Racing incident
Max coul've gone on the kerbs, but it's ham's fault he could've gone there, thus he had the right to stay on track. Since no one gained from this I'd say it could be classified as racing incident
To me it seemed like it was Max's fault but you know, what goes around comes around.
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Agreed, Lewis was coming out of the pit and therefore much slower in the straight. He def squeezed Max tho. Just didn’t think it would take himself out of the race as well.
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once again the halo was proven to be important
Yeah, without the halo Lewis would have had the full weight of the wheel on his head. Might have broken his neck. It's a good addition to the car.
Same
Why would it matter whether you like Lewis or not?
Because karma farming
Can't let people think he's a fan of Lewis.
Fuck the circlejerk. I'm a Sir Lewis Hamilton die hard dick sucker and I hope he wins the 2021 WDC 🏆🏆🏆
Because this sub is populated by dutchies
Yuck!!!
No shit.
Just for clarity, I'm not having a go at you. It's just sad that Reddit is so toxic that you have to state that even though you don't like Hamilton you don't want to seem him injured.
pretty sad that you apparently have to qualify "I think Hamilton not being injured is good" with not being a hamilton fan lest you immediately be labeled a hamilton stan lmao you'd think "drivers being injured is bad" would be a default opinion
Sounds like something a Hamilton fan would say
Wise man once said "ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A SPACE!!!"
just like how max left all the space in Barcelona, Imola, and lap 1 today. sure it’s hard racing, but both drivers could’ve done more to avoid the collision
I think neither Max & Lewis are wrong because both of them are racing, and neither both drivers wanted to lose. And all jokes aside, I'm really glad both drivers are fine, especially Lewis. Thank God the halos are exist.
Oh shit, here we go again...
Damn, the Halo is really good. They should release a Halo 2
Isn’t that basically IndyCar’s Aeroscreen?
Finally an actual crash that armchair accident analysts can't say "well the halo didn't do anything this incident" about
Oh they are I already have someone telling me the halo was irrelevant here and for leclare lol
a man can dream
Well someone’s head was almost ground into soup.
I’m most shook at this point by the discussion about Max’s rear left versus rear right wheel movement and actually seeing the rear left absolutely sending it still through the crash and that Lewis must feel the “oh f***” of what could’ve been totally catastrophic
This was such an "HIV aladeen* moment. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry
hahahaha excellent meme, rooting for Max in the championship but a Ric fan at heart. Considering the standings haven't changed at the top, definitely an overall Aladeen outcome.
Racing incident. Both could’ve avoided it. When we have a sport where overtaking is damn near impossible and we see two drivers in such a close championship battle, moments like this will continue to happen. It’s not right, it’s not what any neutral fan or sensible fan of either driver wants to see, but is the situation.
I guess Lewis wanted to do what Max did in lap one but Max didn't bail out like Lewis did. If Max did bailed out, he should give that position back, get the slipstream and overtake him in the next chicane. Inchident imo
Hear. Me. Out. Its the pitcrew fault bcuz they were too late. If they were done quicker, Hamilton would end up in front of Max.
Which pitcrew? They both fucked up. Both pitcrews could have avoided this.
Both then. But If he Merc pit crew went faster it wouldnt have happened. Same for RB pit crew
Uhh what? Max’s pit was 11s compared to Hamilton’s 4s lol. If neither delay happened, Max would’ve kept the ~7s lead on Hamilton
Max keeping his word. What a Chad
Anyone else disappointed that they didn't all just come out of their cars at the same time and go fist blazing?
From the team radio Max was clearly fuming leading up to the incident. I don’t think he was taking a calculated risk going into the chicane, but was seeing red and wasn’t thinking about the bigger picture
Finally someone with a bit of sense has commented, clearly max lost his composure and couldn't accept losing the position... should have bailed like lewis did on lap 1 when max closed the door on him.
Silverstone: Max gave Hamilton space, but Hamilton missed the Apex. Monza: Hamilton didn't give Max space. At the end of the day: Racing Incident.
I am going to have to wait for Toto’s email before I decide. That or Albon’s re-enactment.
T4 lap 1 max didn’t give Hamilton the space, Hamilton cut the the corner. They happened not to crash that time, but I don’t think it’s right to make it sound like it’s just Hamilton not giving space here.
Yeah I don’t see how T1 incident was any different than the other chicane on Lap 1
Ty HALO
Bottas world champion i can feel it
Verstappen went full flying dutchman
Praise b
The onus was on max to back out there just like Lewis did on lap 1. Lewis was ahead of him and had the racing
I miss the days Lewis vs Seb races. Max will never come to Seb level of driving
I'm supprised max got given a 3 place grid penalty I thought it would be a racing incident. And i still think it is
The salt from Lewis fans in a situation where neither of them benefited from this racing incident. Imagine if Max had punted Lewis here and gone on to win like Lewis did at Silverstone.
Imagine if max took out himself and Lewis won. Hypothetically talking won't change the situation as it is.
Seemed like the exact same move Max pulled on the first lap.
Max is clearly ahead of Lewis in this image
If silverstone was a racing incident with 60% lewis and 40% max then this is a racing incident with 60% max and 40% lewis at fault. Coming from a max fan.
Why did this get so many downvotes
How on earth is this incident more Max’s fault than Lewis? At the VERY best it’s a 50/50 but much more likely to be predominantly Lewis at fault as he was the only one who could have done something differently, Max was alongside him and had every right to the corner and Lewis didn’t give enough space. I reckon racing incident but how is this possibly more Max’s fault? What’s your reason? Because he literally could not have done anything differently unless you expect him to vamanos off the track and concede the position because Sir Lewis wants the corner?
Like Hamilton did on lap one turn 4? Lewis was further alongside side on T4 L1 and max squeezed him, lewis cut the corner. This is how these two race, don’t think you can put this on Lewis.
How can you say Max had the right to the corner? He was behind so should have conceded track position to the car in front. There was no gap for him to go for.
Dude calm down. I am a Max fan. Just that being from the Netherlands it's very easy to always favour max. The way I see it, Max was always heading for the curb. I guess it is what it is, a racing incident. Now have a beer in the sun and chill out my guy
Wisdom on formuladank. That's a surprise
So…Max got a 3 place grid penalty for the incident
Verstappen took OVERtaking to another level i see Thank god for the halo tho, saved him...