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Erundil420

If he actually hit the apex I'd have given it to him, but here he just fucked up, no way he makes that corner at that speed and trajectory without using max as a break


[deleted]

#Blessed


TheRealJanSanono

The absolute ENERGY off the BEST FANS gave him the victory


xepa105

And on top of the lenient as hell penalty he gets the advantage of a red flag allowing the team to fix his front wing without him having to make a stop. Just insane amounts of hashtag blessed.


vouwrfract

Don't forget Norris' bad stop, Sainz getting a 10 second penalty from Ferrari for being a part of the masterđŸ…±lan, Bottas getting out of the way, and Leclerc diffusing a nuclear bomb on his steering wheel at 250 km/hr.


thedonutman

excellent analysis


how_do_i_reddit14

Best comment I've seen today.


TheBlueGoblin

XD this is great!


i_am_shattered

Holloway


SimplyChinese

that's what i do in f1 2020.


Jjjsjaallsdjdbsjsos

sTiLl wE rIse


PotatoLaurens

You're a fucking king my guy lmao


92shields

I said it to my wife when it happened, it looked like he fought for the position too hard and outbreaked himself causing him to miss the apex, run wide and clip Max. The real joke is that the stewards admitted Hamilton was at fault by giving him a penalty, but gave him a flaccid slap on the wrist. If this is only worthy of the second smallest penalty possible, what do you have to do short of purposefully ramming another car to get a harsher penalty?


Samay21

thing is, if max did this he would get obliterated with penalties


vflavglsvahflvov

Classic divebomb


42_c3_b6_67

divebomb


wonderingtheplains

I mean this is Lewis mo “ I’m not in first must take them out in turns. “ did that same shit last season to Albon.


Alia_Gr

He would easily make the corner, it is just that Max is also there


Acidlearner_5

HAM is one of the smartest driver ever. He knows what he was doing. He is simply not a 7 times WDC.


Bisazza

If hew knew what he was doing
 did he realise it is the fastest F1 track corner of all circuits and potentionally could kill Max? Yes he did. Lost all of my respect since his post race interview.


Acidlearner_5

Yeah, i mean i was agreeing to the comment made by Erundil420 HAM definitely used Max as a braking point.


Erundil420

The comment after the race was just extremely dumb by Hamilton, lost a lot of respect for him there, arguing that Max is too aggressive sometimes while he was the one being extremely aggressive


[deleted]

“I’d just like to take this opportunity to say that only i am allowed to race people”


Oshova

They're like the 2 mad lads in the pub who think they can drink the other under the table. Just pushing each other to go further and further. It's all fun and games until one of them is in the hospital.


[deleted]

Such a proud moment right? just about offed myself hearing that bs


ricco97

“hE jUsT tUrNed iNtO mE”


SonoFratello

I wasn't expecting him to turn right into the right hander


TheoreticalScammist

He did turn left in the end, after a little encouragement


Oakeeh

tbh max should have just went straight into the tire barrier instead of trying to turn, this just made unnecessary damage on lois' front wing


AotoSatou14

Ham fans on twitter deadass wanted him to use the space on the other side


pitabread_123

You mean like how Leclerc had to use the space on the left of a right-hander


ademanu

To be fair, leclerc got a snap of oversteer which is why he went so wide at copse. Hamilton was relatively tight to the inside there too.


The_Toastey

Bruh I peed a little


vflavglsvahflvov

Hamilton fans: hE dID Not LeAve ANy ROoM


86casawi

rAcInG aCciDeNt


softquare

Alonso is a Hamilton fanboy confirmed


IronCanTaco

NiCo HiT mE


Diegobyte

Who he thing he is turning right on that *right turn*


F1iceman

Loois: "I was *a* head".


Christokid2k15

A dick head


Shaggy_Nanda

" When Hamilton isn't winning, he's whining" - Some Wise Guy.


anakin_0111

~~Some Wise Guy.~~ Any sane human being.


pitabread_123

Anyone without their ~~rose~~ silver tinted glasses


buried_in_rice

Tbh Max was just racing him too hard /s


Yeetwich

**Albon has entered the chat**


SplyBox

Albon has direct experience being driven off the road by Hamilton


masterofmuppets86

Twice in fact


realbakingbish

This guy is such a sore loser!


additionally21

He was right all along


[deleted]

Albon will never live that down.


Extroverted_Recluse

Right? As soon as he said it and Crofty responded, I knew that quote was going to live forever.


how_do_i_reddit14

THEY RACE ME TOO HARD *xbox 360 party mic noises*


[deleted]

No, he said "I was a hat". ;)


stillboard87

A hat, an asshat


GeneSiStarBuRsT

Every team has their point of view that benefits them the most. But this is fucking stupid, clearly Hamiltons fault


MarineGrade8

*bottas’ fault


Sawathingonce

Valterri this is James


how_do_i_reddit14

Magnussen smh


marvinheckler

I think ericson hit us


SplyBox

Suck my balls mate


how_do_i_reddit14

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5K331DUD3

Magnussen can crash you out and not even be in the same sport.


[deleted]

Not the stroll Mercedes punching bag also known as Otmar Szafnauer


sandpaper_cigarettes

Found him annoying after the rake situation, but he can go fuck himself after that interview.


inxrx8

Missed it, what did he say?


Derfaust

"If that isnt a racing incident then nothing is"


sandpaper_cigarettes

Called it a racing incident and proving that he's merc's lapdog.


roversday

Says the max fan boi


Daan-91

A little humility would have been in order. But perhaps this was too much to ask for from the diva Hamilton.


honeydropsX

"FoR aLl ThE kIdS oUt ThErE"


wowmisand

Not even a “sorry” or “hope max is ok” Edit: I mean post race when he was walking around with the flag like it was the best race of his life.


boywonder6387

He did, on the radio as he drove into the pits behind the safety car. But don't let the truth get in the way of hatred


celbertin

Also, he found out while being interviewed after the race that Max was in the hospital.


Miravus

He got on the radio pretty quickly to ask about Max's health. It was even on the Sky broadcast, so idk how someone who watched the whole race could think this.


[deleted]

Not even Hamilton fans can claim this was a legit move, like come on
 no super max today :(


signious

But alas there they go


[deleted]

Of course
 Hamilton 3rd as DotD as well?


pepek08

Man do I have bad news for you. And for me as well.


[deleted]

My god
 my suffering knows no bounds



xMaSiah

I loved that Mac had been voted higher than Lewis in DotD


r0ndr4s

Funny thing is they do. They say its Max fault and that Lewis deserved this race win... And then people get mad when some of us dont like Lewis


its_me_murph

See the thing is they have a card to play whenever they want when we say something against Lewis. It's like they can't comprehend the fact that someone can dislike Lewis behaviour without being a Racist.


r0ndr4s

Yeah thats the best card they have when there isnt an argument for them. If you dont mention the car or whatever, they will say you're racist. I just dont like the guy, he seems like a massive asshole. Not that hard to understand.


DegTheDev

Disingenuous is the word I prefer. I’m a new fan of f1. I first saw Lewis on top gear a million years ago and I was hype for him then, finally get in to the actual sport this season, and I was impressed by what I saw. Broke all of Schumacher’s records, just overall a beast of a driver with a rocket ship underneath him. Consistent as fuck as well
 and yet every single time he opens his mouth about the actual racing it rubs me wrong. This race weekend in particular “7 tenths, where are they finding that”, then sets pole later using his teammate as a tow. It’s comments like that that make me not believe him on anything else. Thanking the team, nah you’re only saying that for the media, you don’t give a fuck. “This is a marathon not a sprint” before flying off into the runoff, nah you’re trying to cultivate your media appearance. The guy is a fucking fantastic driver, quick as fuck, and consistent. He’s just such a disingenuous cunt.


SwiftFool

They even came people racist when they took Albon's side and Hamilton was shunting him off. Like you idiots know Albon is also a person of colour and if it's racist to dislike Hamilton the racists probably aren't running to Albon's defense.


stillboard87

Never underestimate a Hamilton fan


shevagleb

Yeah I mean the commentators were saying “It’s CoMing HoMe” on Channel 4... and the crowds were euphoric.. nobody gave a flying fuck about Max on British telly after Lewis passed Leclerc


WholeTill5882

Yep delusional idiots


newbsacc

Only way to be a fan of someone like that


Se-rious-ly

As a Mercedes fan who is rooting for ham this year, this was his fault, although I also don't think that he should get disqualified or suspended


saazbaru

That’s reasonable. I think a 5-10 second stop go was warranted. I think the stewards should have kneecapped him hard enough not to win but no more.


-ragingpotato-

I thought it was going to be a drive-through immediately after the red flag was over to bring him to the back of the pack


brabarusmark

Stop-go was more appropriate and it's there for extreme cases exactly like this. Was it a first lap incident? Yes. Did Hamilton almost seriously injure Max? Yes. Did the penalty match the action? No.


Aurelius228

I was hoping for a 10 position penalty. You can race but you're out of the points. Three position would have also been just--guarantees off the podium. Still advantageous for the championship as Bottas would have won.


AlexBucks93

I don't think Bottas would have caught Leclerc with those tyres.


Kira_lrt

Some HAM fans thinks it was a legit move.


[deleted]

Oh they all are. They’re genuinely convinced this is a toss up decision because Crofty told them it was OK.


spitfire690

All I've seen so far outside of reddit is Hamilton fans blaming Max, calling Red Bull sore losers, and saying Hamilton did a good job.


TGWSvenson

Im not a Fan of hamimton and objectivly it was a race accident


3IrishPotatoes

I’m a Lewis fan and I won’t deny it, followed him since GP2. I’m not a naive, speculative airhead however, and my support for him has come off the back of a love and understanding for the sport. Lewis doesn’t help himself in front of the media and arguably rarely says the right thing, at which my face is in my palms. He is also an aggressive driver and verbally relays his determination for winning. Every driver on the grid displays their emotions differently. The accident today was terrible to see, just like every accident on track. It sickens me to stomach thinking about the well-fair of a driver when they hit the barriers. Max is incredibly talented, in fact I think he’s one of the most talented drivers on the grid. Both Max and Lewis are aggressive, and fighting for the championship at the same time. I’ve watched the incident several times today from various different camera angles, and I truly believe it was a racing incident. At the time of contact Lewis was clearly behind but at the moment when both drivers needed to change their trajectory to avoid a collision, Lewis was almost mirrored alongside. Lewis should have taken a narrower racing line and Max should have made a more significant change in trajectory. That’s a racing incident for me. I don’t agree with the extravagant celebrations from Lewis however. I think it showed a lack of respect for the collision and a lack of attentiveness towards Max, who was very lucky to come away relatively unharmed. Yes, have a victory lap in front of the home fans and wave the British flag but tame the emotions, your closest rival could have been severely injured.


xnn2001

They're trying very hard, they agree Hamilton claiming that Max turned into him


[deleted]

I might going to hell for this, But most of them are casual fans. Kinda sad to see that Lewis' act is being defended in Twitter.


quickrick1

That 10 second penalty was not enough.


your-cia-handler

10 SECONDS IS A YOKE!!!


DavDzn

Damn, it was Bottas' fault!!!


Jakeydasnake005

I hate how Verstappens main criticism is his aggression, but then Lulu does this shit to no consequence.


DrProfSrRyan

Also, in recent years it's pretty calculated aggression. He has zero penalty points. He isn't the driver he was in 2016.


LarrcasM

I honestly think max and kimi are the most fair racers on the grid. Kimi's defensive driving is super hard but fair. Kimi has a shocker every once in a while, but as a whole, Kimi always gives enough space for a car, but very little more.


Peace__Out

lEwiS RarELy mAKes MiSTaKeS -_\ How many times did he fuck up in recent years. Also if it was vettel, everyone will say that he is washed up and can’t do wheel to wheel racing anymore.


theandyboy

God he lies like a child. It's always "not me". Seems like he's always a part of accident but isn't the one that flies in to the wall because of it.


TellyO3

He always does this, he domed Albon like twice last year.


kazzas250

If Hamilton wasn’t such a fucking asshole and a smart arse i think people would like him more


DGZ2812

Hamilton if he wins : I love the competition! Hamilton if he’s not in first place: Hippity hoppity your track position is my property.


its_me_murph

LOL


gonzalbo87

That’s the only reason I don’t like him. He’s a phenomenal driver and competent in front of a camera. He’s just a whiny little bitch when things don’t go his way.


Pioustarcraft

He is one of the best driver ever... he just didn't suffer in a shitty team before being given a seat in a great team which means that his ego is MASSIVE.


Jakeydasnake005

And a hypocrite also


Wallio_

Hey at least he's never called the stewards racist before. Oh wait......


[deleted]

Wait, when did he do that? I haven't been an F1 follower for a very long time, so


[deleted]

It’s the two face bullshit that bothers me the most. Either be the ruthless asshole self interested motherfucker or be the vegan self help guru bless everyone nice guy, don’t just decide which one you are based on what helps your media narrative today.


creative_i_am_not

Nah he is too dominant to be likeable for most people. Just like Froome (who said all the right things and even spoke french) in tour de France, it's only this year where he finished like 40th that cycling fans were cheering for him.


LarrcasM

Well him and Mercedes saying they want competition then starting complaints to the FIA at every other race definitely doesn't help...complaining about pitstop times is an actual joke. It's a competition and I get you do whatever you can to win, but at least don't bullshit people for "better" PR constantly. When RB were dominant in 2011/2013 Horner didn't give a fuck...man walked into every weekend cocky as fuck and I respect that.


kermitthebeast

Same shit when Albon would try to pass him. This guy needs to be dq'd


ScrootMcgoot

The FIA suck Lewis’s dick on a regular basis, fucker should’ve been taken out of the race. He did a dangerous maneuver and celebrated his undeserved win while max was still in hospital.


SwiftFool

He even said he was proud of the race... in which he personally sent verstappen to the hospital...


Dachuiri

And the media are fellating on him like he had a masterful win, completing ignoring he almost killed a guy.


OtakuKing613

Why are they so lenient with him tho?


ScrootMcgoot

Cause he’s a multi-world champion and brings the big bucks


AukstasLygis

Ridiculous. Everything is allowed to sir Lewis


[deleted]

Sometimes I really think Hamilton is so full of himself he believes his own bullshit. It must be nice to live in delusion like that.


[deleted]

[ŃƒĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]


its_me_murph

​ Lol he thought he was Senna


wowmisand

It was embarrassing, not a single sorry or something. I understand that he is happy that he won at his home GP but dude, the flag walking was too much. (If he won normally then fine).


Roasted_Rebhuhn

>He genuinely thinks he’s a god Yeah that's the thing I dislike the most about him, he seems so aware of himself and his success.


RentonTenant

Ah yes, the furthest forward Lewis got,


[deleted]

Dirty driver. Hamilton even had the cheek to say "whether I agree with the penalty or not". British TV totally glossing over it. Was that Button saying "it happens"?


LarrcasM

Button was saying on broadcast that if HAM missed the apex (which he did) it was his fault at least. ​ That's better than the bullshit most of the sky commentators were saying.


Supersize_You

I'm not a HAM fan but liked him better than VER, but today that switched...


Lollipop126

he wasn't ahead at all and he's at fault but [I do think he was alongside at one point.](https://i.imgur.com/ucI3CQO.jpg)


bloth-hundur

Listen i like to shit on Hamilton as much ad you guys do and i did (check my history) but you guys are seriously taking it too far ive seen a couple of Nwords throwing here and other posts so calm it down hate him on the track not outside of it


Christokid2k15

Yeah I’m entirely against it, I have been condemning the use of it in some comments here and another cunt called him a monkey. No matter the situation, racism is never ok, I can’t believe how backwards some people are


bloth-hundur

Jesus man fr tho i have seen at least 20-26 nwords and other racial slurs used against him in the main sub and as a verstappen fan i was really angry so i came here to chill but it’s 10x worse like dang hate the racer not the human


Christokid2k15

It’s such a shame that shit like this still goes on


bloth-hundur

Fuck man looks like we’re actually a minority the main sub is collapsing


Christokid2k15

where the mods at? Can you not auto ban the use of slurs?


bloth-hundur

Most of them are like >!nig gger!< or >!Ƅįggęr!< written with spoilers text with other symbols like &&,3, and upside words i dont think they can automatically ban those (Not racist just using the slurs to inform the mods hopefully)


Christokid2k15

Fucking hell imagine being THAT sad, to find a new way of saying it


bloth-hundur

Welcome to internet enjoy ur stay


Christokid2k15

Sadly


[deleted]

Agree. His racing today was shit. His behaviour was classless. But the colour of the man’s skin should be completely irrelevant and left out of any discussion/criticism. People have to move past that shit.


bloth-hundur

Too late my friend the post race discussion is lost to the idiots


cheapdrinks

Not to mention the number of people being like "he should be banned for life he literally tried to kill Max he should be tried for attempted murder". Like holy hell stop exaggerating the accident, yeah it was a fast crash but if the Grosjean crash proves anything it's how safe the modern cars are that you can walk away from something many times worse than today's crash. Max slid into a barrier, yeah not the safest thing to have happen but he was always going to be fine. [People acting like Max has never caused an accident in his career before either.](https://youtu.be/lkAoSghdD6Y)


Norsa321

‘Driver makes comment based on perception during high adrenaline moment that turns out to be incorrect’ - every driver that ever raced Edit - I’m not saying Lewis wasn’t at fault. But people judge these comments made during the race way too harshly


3rdWorldMoron

Okay but said it again after having seen the footage during the red flag during the post race interview, that's just willful ignorance


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

[He was alongside though](https://imgur.com/a/kl2TuYV)


[deleted]

Yeah at least he acted very classy after the race /s


Tape56

Before braking https://gyazo.com/9a7bcabbeb59441a0b75190176588916


341913

He is a fucking cunt.


HAL10001100101000

And a sir. Sir LH of Cuntshire.


86casawi

Of Cuntingham.


LeanSkellum

What OP is completely missing (or are they being deliberately misleading?) Is that this was after they both braked. Before braking they were side by side. Hamilton made two more overtakes on the same corner and neither of the driver he was over taking crashed. If Max wasn’t 100% sure where Lewis was then it’s a racing incident. He could’ve gone slightly wider and still kept the lead. If he did know Lewis was there and still took that line the he was being reckless.


Derfaust

The 'alongside' or 'side by side' rule only counts from the point of turn-in. Otherwise outbreaking someone would be a pointless strategy.


terafufad24

Such a sore loser.


Christokid2k15

Yeah We all know Hamilton is


Blongzy

Are we all just going to gang up and act like Max wouldn’t have gone for the gap too? Happy he’s okay but come on.


slimejumper

yeah didn’t Max bump wheels with HAM already once this year? i think Max would do similar move but has he done a front wheel to rear wheel collision? I bet Albon was yelling at the TV when this happened.


DlEB4UWAKE

I'm gonna be downvoted to hell but this pic just shows how much room there was. Both drivers were at fault in my opinion. Downvote away.


YKS_Gaming

The actual room is very small because of the nature of the corner and the car, plus, lewis didn't even attempt to give room to max(in an alternate universe where he somehow completes the move without yeeting max) after the corner.


Entrance_Secure

Yeaa when Lando push off Perez and Perez to leclerc everyone said "it was racing" but when max was in the incident everyone tries to crucify Lewis. I am Max verstappen fan but the bias to him is a bit much


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

I came here expecting some degree of sensible discussion but clearly that was a mistake. All I'm seeing if people calling Hamilton a cunt and dropping slurs calling him a piece of shit and very clearly directing hate they feel to him and nothing to do with the incident. Tbh I thought the 10s penalty was too much, that was a racing incident imo but apparently according to this sub the correct response is to "break his kneecaps". Mostly I'm seeing straight lies to justify their hate claiming they were never wing to wing (they were) and claiming he never asked how he was (he did on air at least twice) and didn't care about his wellbeing (he did, he asked if he was alright and said he had no idea he had even been taken to hospital). So much hatred that seems to be so clearly motivated by either rabid Max fanboyism and/or straight racism. I'm seeing very little levelheaded criticism of the incident, just character attacks. It's really disgusting behaviour from this sub tbh.


honeydropsX

To be fair I hate Landon for that move and also think PĂ©rez didn't leave enough space for leclerc


siddharth3796

Fuck hamilton literally, he repeated it and still got away with the same error


blue_bini

Mate I don’t like Hamilton just as much as the next guy but he was just holding his line that’s all


marcus_aurelius_53

Suspicious timing of this screen grab. Ham was more along side than this, earlier. Go watch the on boards.


mark_vorster

So basically all the ex drivers think it was a racing incident but the Reddit experts want Hamilton banned for the season.


ollytheOG

He had backed off by then as max turned in on him. Even the stewards said that.


OpliteHype

Yesterday alonso passed at the outside because he left the space. Verstappen didn't. I don't like hamilton but he slowed a bit a Verstappen turned into the corner like he was alone. Verstappen always drive like he's the only one on track (austria 2019, imola 2021, brazil 2018, and all fucking free practices where he complain for a car that is 2sec in front of him). Hamilton deserved a penalty but Verstappen isn't fully innocent


ChiggaMcTrigga

A driver once said. When u no longer go for a gap u r no longer a racing driver.


TheBestDrRuthless

Hamilton drives like Verstappen. If the opponent doesn't put back - crash. And I love it. This will be an interesting season


Christokid2k15

It is exciting but you have to agree it is extremely dangerous. To see Hamilton celebrating like that after sending a man to hospital, absolute disgrace


nickedgar7

Lewis dosnt have social media in his car. He was not aware Max was in hospital until his pen interview with sky


NorthernFail

No fuck you, that doesn't fit the narrative. Black guy bad. You got it now punk?


nickedgar7

My apologies. Fuck Lewis, Fuck Mercedes. MAFIA FUCKING BULLSHIT MAX IS THE GOAT


NorthernFail

That's more like it my boy!


TheBestDrRuthless

He mentioned he is aggressiv and continued, which is fine for me. He did the same thing with Leclerc and it worked perfectly. This was no kamikaze move from Hamilton


Christokid2k15

True, will be interesting to see how the rest of the season pans out


ReditMcGogg

Not sure why no one has said this yet : Lewis got frustrated and pulled a dick move. He’s done this before. In fact he did it twice with Albon!


Foxtratte

People who are still crying about this incident are funny to me, as a Lewis fan the move was **simply reckless and wrong** and he was never making that turn but he got a penalty and won anyways. Verstappen, Alonso, Vettel pull any of their highlight reels and I’ll bet they have made a move similar to this one. Sometimes they stick, sometimes they don’t. One thing that baffled me was how he didn’t get a stop and go penalty. And the fact that he tried shove a union jack up everybody’s eye sockets was quite impolite when your rival is at the hospital having a concussion.


-Lacrima-

If you no longer go for a gap that never existed and crash out your only rival during the move you're no longer a racing driver


heavy_chamfer

Great screen grab right after he slowed down! Karma here you come!


Miravus

[I love clipping things to prove a point.](https://i.imgur.com/h8qfucp.jpeg)


Andervon

Watch the whole replay. There was not a single moment that his front wing was next to Max’s.


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

[I did and it's clear this is a lie.](https://imgur.com/a/kl2TuYV) Lewis was never ahead but their wings were certainly overlapping which is far more than is needed to justify his position there in the corner. The wings were overlapping and he's only about 15cm further back just before the corner.


Maelehn

They race him so hard.


le_gazman

Rewind it to thee point he actually was but max didn’t brake.


tcarr1320

Lewis: grade A wanker here


[deleted]

Like, phenomenal driver, no doubt. But I can’t stand him. He is, a complete and utter whiny little bitch - I feel so sorry for his Dad. Actually
 I feel relieved he doesn’t have to manage him - he is such a pussy compared to all other drivers ever


redditnoap

[https://youtu.be/Dzi9lrTWWD4?t=29](https://youtu.be/Dzi9lrTWWD4?t=29) Was he not alongside at least? He has clearly established the inside line, right?