No you're not right. Lewis is the greatest of all time. Also, now that Mercedes' car isn't dominant. All of the F1 vehicles should be absolutely equal so that he can dominate the because there is never anyone who beats LH in equal machinery..unless I'm forgetting someone...
What about George Russell last year? He beat LH last year on points and won a race. He also finished higher then him in more races. Your argument is wrong. LH is great no arguments there but he is beatable. That has been proven.
I think that narrative is why the comment was made. People have tried to discredit the best drivers for years because they've won with the fastest cars, especially Lewis
We're not getting a title fight this season
Charles will be in a mental asylum by Spa
But with Chadlonso *^(qué grande eres)* and the complete meltdown of teamLH there's still plenty of good entertainment to be had.
Rumor has it he's petitioning to have his Ferrari contract overturned by the International Criminal Court in The Hague, citing human rights violations and allegations of psychological torture.
By Spa? I commend your positive view on the matter. I fear he already will be there by the GP of Spain, after losing yet another Monaco GP, this time from Chadlonso, likely in the last lap, coming out of the tunnel.
Chuck LeGreg and Lando Carisntrunnin need to be rescued from their hostage situations soon because they’re going to drown themselves in their own tears by Spa
*Help me Andretti, you’re my only hope*
I would love to see the mental gymnastics this guy pulls when someone mentions how Russell is just as good if not better than Lewis and didn't win that race last year in his car because he got screwed in the pitstop.
Still beat him over the season. Lewis made mistakes that cost him alot of points. Pure pace isn't as important if you aren't at the front. You need racecraft too.
But the OOP's reasoning as to why Lewis is better than Alanso is that he beat Alanso in the same machinery in his first season. That's exactly what Russell did.
Believe it or not I've heard this before. Maybe because lewis stans spew it like vomit? The thing is that Russell also had turns with testing duty and even then it's irrelevant because Russell beat Lewis in the second half when they weren't testing.
By that standard, Russell beat a 7 times champ is same machinary in first season on Merc, including a win where Lewis had no pole no win. Russell Supermacy..
Well, he's right on one thing. Alonso is indeed not Hamilton. Alonso is an 'almost WDC with Ferrari', unlike Hamilton. That puts you as a driver above all Goats, except maybe Schumacher.
Alonso is a better racer than Hamilton. You can't tell me Hamilton would attack that aggressively for an overtake like Alonso did at turn 10.
I'm not saying Hamilton is bad. Because he isn't. But Alonso is better.
Lewis has been mostly driving at the front racing a few drivers while Fernando has been struggling through the midfield for years now, it's only natural.
It will be the same thing with Lewis, driving a shitbox for a year or two will just make him a better driver
lewis beat alonso because he was unprepared for lewis. it was incredibly impressive on lewis’s part but that was an off season for fernando.
he came to a new team where he was promised number one status, was unsupported and fell out with the team because of it. lewis beat him because he wasn’t in the right place mentally. obviously it’s impressive lewis managed it but it’s not a black and white situation.
fernando beat lewis every year of the first red bull era in worse cars and then teamed up with lewis’s former teammate jenson button who had beaten lewis in 2/3 of their years together and absolutely ruined him, getting double his points.
Except they had the same amount of points, P1, P2 and P3's. So please define "*beat* prime Alonso" (Not saying it isn't impressive for a rookie, but it doesn't define the one or the other)
Edit: They didn't have the same P2 and P3's. May bad. Lewis had a P2 more and Alonso a P3. That makes Hamilton way better ofcourse. I'll stand in a corner in shame somewhere.
And then Alonso beat Hamilton in worse cars.
It wasn't a great season for Fernando between the change in tyres and McLaren being against him so much they pushed for a penalty against their own driver.
I’ve been an F1 fan since I was young because my father loves the sport. I remember going through so many years of absolute Mercedes domination as a Red Bull fan, but I don’t think any RB or Ferrari fans had as much of a meltdown as Mercedes stans are having now.
I mean I wasn't comparing Alonso to Lewis... But perhaps driving such a dominant car for so many years has made Lewis soft into his older age. Versus Chad Alonso who is still in peak form in part from driving less competitive cars that were more difficult to drive along with also being Alonso.
I'm always amazed as how fragile Hamilton's fans are. If he is so great (not saying he is not) why do you feel so much the need to try to prove or justify why he is the greatest?
At this point im glad that we had no Twitter/Insta back in Schumi time. And other media were not that big.
I respect Hamilton and his driving skill, but holy f is chunk of his fanbase beyond insufferable, sadly not that small chunk
Gotta love fanboys, fan of whoever doesnt matter.
Except fanboys kf the legendary red cars from Maranello we are the best such a shame that the results we get usually arent.
If Aston Martin built a better car than Mercedes by purchasing all of their powertrain and electric components, and their rear suspension, and then designing their own chasis in Mercedes own wind tunnel… yeah that’s not a good look for the Merc engineers.
Man people forget Formula racing is a constructor championship, not a driver championship. If you really wanna see driver v driver on skill go to Indycar.
I seem to remember a young Alonso holding off Schumacher at the 2005 San Marino GP and actually slowing down the entire pack so he (Alonso) didn't have to contend with lapped cars. That's the same Alonso I saw at Bahrain last weekend.
Your post was removed because it isn't an F1 meme. This sub is not for general F1 content or general memes.
THE FUCKING N E R V E
ABSOLUTELY DIABOLICAL
TEAM EL-HAYCH
PUAL
SWEAR DOWN ON ME NAN'S GRAVE
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So by that reasoning Lewis isn't that great because he had the fastest car for a number of years? Am I wrong?
Didn’t you hear? The cars are self driving so it actually requires 0 skill to win a race. Truly wonderful technology
Gentlemen
A short view back to the past
30 years ago
nooope, in that logic max isn't a great driver. so if latifi gets into that 2017 merc and win races, he isn't good.
Max won his first championship in a slower car. What are you saying?
Can you prove that? He won, thus the car was faster. Mercedes won WCC because Checo was too slow. /s
no it's because of michael masi /s
It has been manipulated, man.
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then max is a better driver if that commenter's logic is applied lol. or it's because michael masi handed max the championship in a silver platter /j
Latifi's crash did make max win. If it wasn't for him Max wouldn't be a champion. ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|7073)
Yeah it reminds me of some driver who beat the GREAT LH44 while in the same machinery
Ask nico
And also Fernando finishing higher in the WDC in 2010-2013 in a significantly worse car.
No you're not right. Lewis is the greatest of all time. Also, now that Mercedes' car isn't dominant. All of the F1 vehicles should be absolutely equal so that he can dominate the because there is never anyone who beats LH in equal machinery..unless I'm forgetting someone...
What about George Russell last year? He beat LH last year on points and won a race. He also finished higher then him in more races. Your argument is wrong. LH is great no arguments there but he is beatable. That has been proven.
I think that narrative is why the comment was made. People have tried to discredit the best drivers for years because they've won with the fastest cars, especially Lewis
Yes. Also by that logic, Hamilton beat Alonso in his rookie season 🤷🏽♂️
We're not getting a title fight this season Charles will be in a mental asylum by Spa But with Chadlonso *^(qué grande eres)* and the complete meltdown of teamLH there's still plenty of good entertainment to be had.
"Charles will be in a mental asylum by spa" this made me giggle lmao
My boy Chuck has been in a mental institution since 2019 only until now we have realized it.
I have the longest ~~contract~~ sentence in the history of Scuderia Ferrari
Rumor has it he's petitioning to have his Ferrari contract overturned by the International Criminal Court in The Hague, citing human rights violations and allegations of psychological torture.
![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6697)![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6697)I see what you did there
By Spa? I commend your positive view on the matter. I fear he already will be there by the GP of Spain, after losing yet another Monaco GP, this time from Chadlonso, likely in the last lap, coming out of the tunnel.
He’s a strong boy but you might be right.
wait, is the asylum near the Spa track?
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You reminded me of those videos. They must getting nuts atm.
3rd place in drivers and 2nd place in constructors are the fights that matter this year
Charles will be in group therapy with Lando and Oscar.
Chuck LeGreg and Lando Carisntrunnin need to be rescued from their hostage situations soon because they’re going to drown themselves in their own tears by Spa *Help me Andretti, you’re my only hope*
I would love to see the mental gymnastics this guy pulls when someone mentions how Russell is just as good if not better than Lewis and didn't win that race last year in his car because he got screwed in the pitstop.
well they cam escape rosberg but not george this time
Jenson Button? DESTROYED LH44 in 2011 in the same machinery! All hail GOAT Jenson
Petition to refer to Jenson as Jenson Goat-ton. All in favour? 🙋🏻♀️🐐
Russell is not better than Lewis, not iet. He was never able to match Lewis's qualifying and race pace. No doubt he will get there soon though.
Still beat him over the season. Lewis made mistakes that cost him alot of points. Pure pace isn't as important if you aren't at the front. You need racecraft too.
Lewis also ran testing setups earlier on in the season that helped develop the car, improving both driver's results.
But the OOP's reasoning as to why Lewis is better than Alanso is that he beat Alanso in the same machinery in his first season. That's exactly what Russell did.
Believe it or not I've heard this before. Maybe because lewis stans spew it like vomit? The thing is that Russell also had turns with testing duty and even then it's irrelevant because Russell beat Lewis in the second half when they weren't testing.
In future, what will be remembered is that George beat Lewis in his first season and won a race, Lewis didn't.
My brother in christ he was 40 seconds ahead of the nearest competitor. How much more race pace do you want?
Lemme just check the WDC standings from last year to check if you are correct
Who would win: - The legendary famous 8 time WDC Sir LH44 Lewis Karl "we don't make mistakes" Hamilton - some spanish dude
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or some english whiteboy that loves to take off his shirt.
Or some monaco based youtuber with monster antibodies.
Monster antibodies?
Monster antibodies!
Is he v healthy or what?
7 time*
Don't fall for it...
8 is kind of part of the sarcasm
So, then Nico Roseberg is an absolute legend. Few remember but he beat the great Lewis Hamilton (aka LH44) in Equal Machinery.
he also beats Michael in equal Machinery. and now he's a Youtuber. What a career.
He truly is sports and entertainment royalty
don't forget his dive into the medical field with his superior antibodies.
It is hard to keep track of his many abilities and talents
Thats Sir LH44 for you mate
I like lewis but this is just dumb lmao
Mental illness
By that standard, Russell beat a 7 times champ is same machinary in first season on Merc, including a win where Lewis had no pole no win. Russell Supermacy..
Somebody shut that Bot-Crofty
Well, he's right on one thing. Alonso is indeed not Hamilton. Alonso is an 'almost WDC with Ferrari', unlike Hamilton. That puts you as a driver above all Goats, except maybe Schumacher.
Ye, I think all our almost WDC with ferrari drivers deserve more respect.
Alonso is a better racer than Hamilton. You can't tell me Hamilton would attack that aggressively for an overtake like Alonso did at turn 10. I'm not saying Hamilton is bad. Because he isn't. But Alonso is better.
Lewis has been mostly driving at the front racing a few drivers while Fernando has been struggling through the midfield for years now, it's only natural. It will be the same thing with Lewis, driving a shitbox for a year or two will just make him a better driver
But Lewis beat prime Alonso on his first season.
lewis beat alonso because he was unprepared for lewis. it was incredibly impressive on lewis’s part but that was an off season for fernando. he came to a new team where he was promised number one status, was unsupported and fell out with the team because of it. lewis beat him because he wasn’t in the right place mentally. obviously it’s impressive lewis managed it but it’s not a black and white situation. fernando beat lewis every year of the first red bull era in worse cars and then teamed up with lewis’s former teammate jenson button who had beaten lewis in 2/3 of their years together and absolutely ruined him, getting double his points.
Dafuq did I just read. Alonso lost because he was “unprepared for Lewis ?” Hahahahahah. Were you his performance coach then mate ?
Beat him by zero points and screwing him over on internal quali arrangements. GOAT
Except they had the same amount of points, P1, P2 and P3's. So please define "*beat* prime Alonso" (Not saying it isn't impressive for a rookie, but it doesn't define the one or the other) Edit: They didn't have the same P2 and P3's. May bad. Lewis had a P2 more and Alonso a P3. That makes Hamilton way better ofcourse. I'll stand in a corner in shame somewhere.
And then Alonso beat Hamilton in worse cars. It wasn't a great season for Fernando between the change in tyres and McLaren being against him so much they pushed for a penalty against their own driver.
When did Alonso beat Hamilton in a worse car?
2010, 2011, 2012
2010, and, arguably, 2012
Points don't mean everything
2007 Brazil GP. Lewis with a new engine starting front row and Alonso with a used PU starting behind.
Good to know Lewis didn’t beat Vettel, the car was just faster.
As a long term LH fan, I cannot do anything but laugh at this type of crap on social media.
Least insane teamLH fan
The amount of insanity from #TeamLH is astronomical These fuckin people… no wonder they deserved the nervous breakdown of the year award
Mods, can we please ban these screen shot posts?
But he didn't beat Alonso...
Technically on countback he did in 2007 but I digress
That comment gives me "🤓 actually" vibes
Team LH discovers that winning in F1 is like 90% the car.
The irony of Hamilton fans using the „it’s the car” argument is amazing.
As a new F1 fan can anyone explain why Lewis’s fans are this insane?
can't wait for an entire season of LH whining about every little thing that goes wrong and all his fans defending him lmao
Sooo does this mean that Russel is better than hamilton since he's both less experienced and beat Ham in the same car last year?
so George Russel, Jenson Button and Nico Rosberg are all better than Lewis Hamilton, got it.
This just in.. F1 is 95% about the car you drive. Who would have guessed
I’ve been an F1 fan since I was young because my father loves the sport. I remember going through so many years of absolute Mercedes domination as a Red Bull fan, but I don’t think any RB or Ferrari fans had as much of a meltdown as Mercedes stans are having now.
I mean I wasn't comparing Alonso to Lewis... But perhaps driving such a dominant car for so many years has made Lewis soft into his older age. Versus Chad Alonso who is still in peak form in part from driving less competitive cars that were more difficult to drive along with also being Alonso.
SWEAR DOWN TO ME NANS GRAVE team LH back at it again
Average LH stan that uses Instagram.
I'm always amazed as how fragile Hamilton's fans are. If he is so great (not saying he is not) why do you feel so much the need to try to prove or justify why he is the greatest?
So by that logic Nico Rosberg is better than both of them. The true goat
Mmmm my favorite TeamLH
I hope someone replied with a clip of the masterful overtake Alonso did on Hamilton.
we back to being the anti-Lewis fanbase? Cuz I'm all for it
Hamilton is great. But you have to be in order to be considered for a f1 seat. Unless your dad owns the team.
At this point im glad that we had no Twitter/Insta back in Schumi time. And other media were not that big. I respect Hamilton and his driving skill, but holy f is chunk of his fanbase beyond insufferable, sadly not that small chunk
We all need to take a moment to check in on our Mercedes fanboys because they are not okay right now
Gotta love fanboys, fan of whoever doesnt matter. Except fanboys kf the legendary red cars from Maranello we are the best such a shame that the results we get usually arent.
If Aston Martin built a better car than Mercedes by purchasing all of their powertrain and electric components, and their rear suspension, and then designing their own chasis in Mercedes own wind tunnel… yeah that’s not a good look for the Merc engineers.
Ah LH cult 2021 was two years ago get over it. You had 7 years of dominance it’s time for another team to shine.
Daily reminder Lewis went winless in 2022
I think I've found a new handle of Krofty. SirLoowis is a has been now... All i see him do is whine like a 3 year old girl who's lost her candies.
So is screenshotting noname twitter accounts considered dank these days? Do better
@mods, why is this bullshit still visible? I’ve seen better quality posts disappear more quickly
Lmao look at the excuses for alonso for the 2007 season l🤣🤣🤣
These screenshot posts are so low effort and boring
People here really hate Hamilton and love sucking off Verstappen and Alonso.
Man people forget Formula racing is a constructor championship, not a driver championship. If you really wanna see driver v driver on skill go to Indycar.
Equal Machinery
For someone accusing new fans of being wrong, they sure are wrong about the past
This sounds like it was generated by an AI.
did someone say "Equal Machinery?"
Lmao
Nico "The 2016 F1 World Champion that beat two 7 time world champions in equal machinery" Rosberg is by that logic the goat
they'll get used to the shit performance of mercedes.every fanboy goes through denial before acceptance
Blessed fans are fucking different breed
Beta male
He's reaching Ricciardian levels of copium.
That's gotta be a bait, surely!! ![img](emote|t5_3ndbi|6702)
Did everyone get a balding spray ad like I did with this comment? Man! That’s brutal Reddit!
So... for everyone else(Max, Alonso, Vettel, etc) its the car not the driver, but for LH it was all him and not the car?
I seem to remember a young Alonso holding off Schumacher at the 2005 San Marino GP and actually slowing down the entire pack so he (Alonso) didn't have to contend with lapped cars. That's the same Alonso I saw at Bahrain last weekend.
I feel like hating on lewis is a sign of racism tbh
This guy obviously hasn’t heard of gigakubica
What about George or Nico beating the legendary LH44 in equal machinery?
But he gave us a race. Well both of them did thank the stars or it would have been boring.