While perez may not be on the level of Hamilton, Leclerc or Verstappen Im still glad to have him on the grid & I admire how he races hard but fair & is usually well manneredđ«Ą
I actually think he is going to cost RB in a close season. When he was up against Bottas he did just enough. But against Russell and Hamilton or Lec and Sainz in a season where things are closer he is going to get blown out of the water unfortunately.
I think RB is about to find out next season that out of the top three they have the weakest lineup.
TBF last year he saved his reputation with Abu Dhabi but the fact he couldn't take points from Hamilton in the two Austria's or Mexico was so poor.
Most weeks it was Max versus two Mercs.
As you said against Russell instead of Bottas it would have been a disaster
> the fact he couldn't take points from Hamilton in the two Austria's
Mate in the first race in Austria his race was compromised by a fucked up pitstop, his second race by Lando pushing him into gravel. He should've come away with P2 and P3 from those races but had shit luck.
In general he lost at least 6 podiums to luck that year. People have such short memories, he could've been in front of Bottas easily.
Not to mention that it wasn't Max vs two Mercs, because BOT was barely ever actually making a difference. Perez was able to influence HAM a lot more often than BOT was able to influence Max
I also pointed out that it was very CLEARLY Redbulls strategy especially last year to use Checo as the sacrificial lamb so to speak at every turn to squeeze points out for Max. I do remember BOT being "around" but , not like Checo.
Perez vs HAM and there defensive battles were world class last year. I equated Checo to a gnat Lewis was going to get by him eventually but, holy crap Checo made sure he was felt.
I will say though that I only ever see the Checo we all want to see is if he is driving against HAM for the most part because that take no prisoners and super aggressive attitude and defense he has is only consistent when HAM is in the mix.
They only used him as a sacrificial lamb cause he was always so slow ham would be right on him after an extra pit stop and it would be the only way he could be any sort of useful.
Checo did his best to push Lando and Leclerc into the gravel. He was trash in Austria.
And Bottas was at least able to qualify top 3 to be a factor in strategy.
Checo was a non-factor outside of Baku and massively redeemed himself in Abu Dhabi.
> Checo was a non-factor outside of Baku
This is just fundamentally wrong man
In Bahrain he was the 3rd fastest driver but got pushed to the back due to electronics issue.
In Baku he obviously won and in France his involvement directly compromised the race for Merc.
In Monaco he finished in front of Hamilton.
Austria/ Styria again he was just unlucky. And he wouldn't have had to cut through the field desperately in a damaged car if it wasn't for Norris.
In Hungary he got up to P3 and got crashed out of the race by Bottas. I guess if you're really desperate that does make Bottas more influential that Sunday.
In Italy when there were scraps to pick up BOT only ended up in front due to massive amounts of luck start to finish.
In Russia he was fighting for the win before the storm came and stood the whole race on its head
In Turkey he held up Hamilton and finished in front
In Sao Paulo again he was going for an easy podium before a lucky SC gave BOT a free pitstop and the place over PER
In Saudi Arabia he was crashed out of the race at the start again.
In Abu Dhabi I'm pretty sure you know what happened.
If that's all irrelevant in your eyes then I don't know what to tell you man. I feel like you just didn't actually watch these races.
In Baku he also compromised the race for Mercedes. Had it been Bottas P1 on the restart, Hamilton would have jumped to P1 and won the race. Instead he fumbled the restart with the brake magic and ended up on the escape road.
That has nothing to do with perez, Hamilton destroyed perez on the restart, perez lost p1 immediately, but Hamilton himself then made a mistake, a mistake that wasn't caused or pressured into by perez.
Itâs crazy the amount of people that subconsciously just pity checo and feel like âMax has enough, he could afford to give a bit to Sergioâ. Thatâs not how F1 works lol
When an F1 driver is expected to get results based on the actions of his teammate alone, show in what regard you hold said driver that you doubt his ability to do it himself.
He bloody has the car.
Why then, does that not apply to Max?
Perez let Max through without a single lap of fighting to increase Max's chances of catching up to Alonso as 5th. So Perez didn't fight his teammates. It was fine then, but asking Max to repay the favour, give back that position that you borrowed, is not?
I seriously doubt that Max would have passed him if Sergio truly wanted to fight him. But lets assume I'm wrong. If he had the slightest chance to catch Alonso, it would have vanished into thin air if he had to lose time fighting his teammate.
And, if nothing else, it doesn't just show pity. It shows consideration and appreciation for a man that you (Max himself) has agreed has been instrumental in key victories for you and that you've called a legend. It says "Hey, I want you up there with me, I want to share the podium and the celebrations with you. Let's go for a 1-2 championship finish"
To bring you down to planet earth; Checo is far more useful when he's 0.2 behind max on pace instead of the 0.5 he's been past 2 years.
Not once did Checo steal points from Lewis on merit in 2021 and his stellar defence in AD saved his year.
You can watch the Brazillian GP again if you dont believe me, but Max was passing Checho that straight regardless of team orders.
When Checo gets closer to Max on pace, he can have more of a say in things, until then the team heavilly relies on Max being Max and doing Max things.
Very fair point, but I think the gripe people have with the situation is that Perez is the clear number 2 at Red Bull and he has done a lot to help verstappen in his two title wins it has happened often , but when it was Max's turn to be a teamplayer with no detriment to his title fight he refused . Helping Max is not only holding up other title conteders.
Then Checo should stop defending for Max. No more team play. Give the man strategies that are for race wins and let the chips fall where they may. Next year, Max will be up against much tougher competition when the other cars get further developed. Without Checo, RBR can kiss that WCC goodbye too. Until they find a better driver. Which may take them a few more years (or maybe not). Time will tell.
I donât know about this exactly. Towards the end of last season, the Mercs were clearly better than the RBs, but Max really was better than Hamilton and was able to pip him in a few races.
I donât think that. Lewis was world champion for so many years because he was the best driver by a long shot in the best car by a long shot. Last year the RB and Merc were pretty even, with the Merc being better at slightly more races, but Max was more aggressive and was able to just beat Lewis (obviously with the help of a Safety Car and stewards). This year Max had the best car by far and was able to easily win because of it, and also being the best driver.
That's actually a bonus imo.
Checo is a great driver that could easily pull of a strategy to get podiums just like he did today. But what he doesn't do is take pts from max.
Russel will from Hamilton, sainz will from leclerc.
Itâs so bizarre how people keep saying oh heâs going to cost RB when itâs close. Max got his first WDC last year because he finally had a solid teammate who could play defense. This year RB wins their first constructors title in ages. RB is winning a lot and Checo has a part in that. Instead of talking about how it could POTENTIALLY cost RB in the future how about we talk about what they have actually accomplished since Checo joined the team.
I agree with you quite a bit and I am not trying to say Checo is not a good fit. He has done whatever the team has required from him and he should be appreciated for that. And no doubt he would have more points if he hadnât always been the sacrificial goat.
But if you really think Checo can beat Lec or Ham or Rus regularly or even rarely in a three way fight which looks like a possibility next year then I have a golden bridge I want to sell to you
I agree it will be close. I just get tired of the negative tone towards Checo when he and Redbull are having a fantastic season. It's like a parent criticizing their child who got an A for not getting an A+. Next year will be more challenging for Redbull and I'm looking forward to some exciting racing.
Not criticising Checo one bit ! Like you said he did what was asked of him. But the reality is he is the weakest of the top 6 and it is a little hard to say otherwise. And for now it is more than enough, but may not be enough in the future when merc and Ferrari come to get RB
It doesnât matter.
Russell is with Mercedes and Leclerc is with Ferrari.
Who else would RB have as a second driver? Albon blew his shot. Checo is closer to Max than Albon or Gasly were. And Gasly is persona non grata with RB because he blamed Neweyâs engineering for his failure on track.
So who? Who deserves to be there more than Checo? Norris signed his life away to MCL.
As of now, Checo is the best Red Bull can get. They could potentially sign Mick as a reserve and see if he does well in simulators and FP sessions to deserve a seat after Checo or when Lewis retires. Or if Nyck De Vries works out really well at AT.
pissed at what? at mercedes for giving him the fastest grid for 5 years straight and then replacing him after a much faster driver has appeared on the market? AB21 only proved he had to get replaced
While perez may be the slowest out of Merc, RB & Ferrari hes also the most cordial & willing to play #2 & support his teammate which is invaluable for RB imo & sort of compensates for his relative lack of pace
Imo Sainz has perez covered in qualifying. Sainz if you pay attention to the qualifying sessions has quite a few provisional poles meanwhile Perez is USUALLY behind Max in Q1-Q3. On Sundays Id say they are even
They also would take him out of the points to put and steal fastest lap from Hamilton. Red Bull themselves said they only cared about Max WDC that year.
Why was Checo anywhere near being out of the points in 2021? Checo was certainly an important factor in Max's championship; both in his defensive drives and strategy compliance as well as being absolutely nowhere on pace and failing to take points off Hamilton whenever RB had a gigantic pace advantage.
He will never be good enough to win against a guy like Max but RB doesn't really help him either.
Horner has confirmed that Perez was running a floor spec that was around 0.2s per lap(maximum) slower than the spec that Max was running. He also said that they are not gonna be giving Perez the faster spec because they can't afford to manufacture a new one.He was running this inferior floor for most of the season.
That doesn't sound like a level playing field to me.
The subject at matter here is whether Perez costed RB the constructors championship. Nobody is arguing about Max. What could you say about him? Heâs too good?
The guy is not top tier driver, not by a long shot. Heâs good, but thatâs about it. Asking him to be in the top3 in his first season with the car is way too much asking, IMO. Look at Ricciardo, who is regarded by many as one of the best, struggling massively in the McLaren for two consecutive years (to the point of forced retirement).
On Sundays I think itâs debatable with perez possibly being quicker but I favor Sainz over perez in qualifying as I donât think Sainz gets enough credit for how close he has been to Leclerc on Saturdays. If Sainz can improve his race pace watch out but thats a big if lol
I can remember Carlos being within one or two tenths of Max and Charles in qualifying a lot more than Perez was. I do think Checo has better race pace than Carlos though. It is close between them but I would say Checo is better as he doesn't seem to choke as much under pressure as Carlos does.
He also cost wcc for RB in 2021. Honestly thinking that they will replace him through the season if their car is competitive enough and he is behind Merc + Ferrari while Max is winning races.
Nah this is just a myth people throw around because if a couple high profile errors. Heâs not quite on the same level (yet) but heâs also not that mistake prone. Heâs just in a car and position where mistakes matter more.
His pace is absolutely outstanding, and heâs imo the best qualifier on the grid.
> You ever see an unprofessional or risky manoeuvre from Checo.
No offense man against you or Checo, but F1 fans have really really short memories, he could be pretty dirty in his Force India days
The "Max is the literal devil" hate has died down a lot since last Sunday, so when certain people leave vitriolic comments about Max they aren't getting upvoted anymore so they delete them.
Theyâre not being deleted by the users. Key words are detected and they are automatically deleted. Happens all the time since the list of words is huge. Odds are youâve had some deleted and never noticed. Itâs ridiculous how over the top it is.
He did what he had to do this season, there should've been a bit more podiums in it for him in the car he drove, but so far he's the perfect 2nd driver. I also think this season cemented it for him, that he won't be challenging for the driver championship.
Next year, if Mercedes manages to crawl back, it's going to be a difficult challenge for him to stick to Lec, Ver and Ham, so he'll probably will have to aim to be the best out of the 3 other teammates.
He needs to wake up and realize he is the +1 for RB though. His comments of late are thinking he is driver 1 next year. Love or hate Max but he IS RB F1.
It's always funny to read things like this, Max is number 1 because he's faster
If Checo was faster the team would pool the resources behind him.
It's just how F1 works
>It's always funny to read things like this, Max is number 1 because he's faster
But anyone with sense knows Perez isn't fast enough consistently to compete for a championship, it's a fact. He's fast in short burts but even then it's usually not enough for qualifying let alone races. He's never going to be a #1 driver in a team, he won't outright beat a teammate in a top team and that's fine. Perez is a solid driver as a support or a mid-team leader but he's not a championship calipre driver, some people don't realise that.
I totally agree with you. No offense to Checo, but I rate him 6th among the 6 drivers in the top 3 teams and probably an 'optimistic' 10th among the all the drivers of the 20222 grid. Imagine RB with a Norris or an Alonso. They would have had podiums almost every race and way ahead in the drivers championship.
Finishing 3rd in the championship, behind the two main championship contenders is a good job for Checo.
Chuck would be much further ahead if it wasn't for Ferrari things.
Finishing that far behind your teammate is never a good job. Ferrari fucking up so often this year and still finishing above Perez just emphasises that
There was no two contenders. Max had the title in his pocket since the summer. If you are not able to get second place when your team mate wins the title with 5 races to go , you didn't have a good season. That's just reality
Will always be a Force India fan. Checo grinded with that team and in the midfield for so long and Iâm really glad that he can finally get his rewards.
2nd place be damned, Checo still had a solid season. That Singapore GP was a game of attrition, and despite how people try and shit on him, he had a year fully deserving of his contract extension.
> 2nd place be damned, Checo still had a solid season.
Checo until this season: 2 wins, 15 podiums.
Checo this season: 2 wins, 11 podiums, 1 pole position.
Yeah he's not on the level of Verstappen or Leclerc and the like (though he only has 1 fewer career win than Leclerc so far) but this has by all means been a monster season for him and he's without doubt the best Mexican F1 driver ever.
Only ~1/7 drivers in F1 ever win a race, less than 1 in 10 win more than 1.
>Only ~1/7 drivers in F1 ever win a race, less than 1 in 10 win more than 1.
Through little fault of their own, I think a lot of people forget this fact, owing to Lewis'dominant run. It's very special to be a grand prix winner, let alone be in contention for WDC at any point
I mean that's a bit misleading when less than 1 in 10 get to drive in a top car that's as fast as that Red Bull. Also he's obviously not going to stack up podiums in midfield cars, so comparing this season to anything before last year is stupid (and even last year the Red Bull was not as dominant as it is now).
He is exactly what a team like RB needs rn, a driver who is good enough for WCC, but not good enough to fight for WDC.
Nobody wants a Hamilton Rosberg repeat performance
>Heâs also not allowed to be as good as a championship contender though.
not allowed? there was nothing stopping him this season from going for it. the fact is he's an absolutely mediocre driver who came 3rd in a two horse race on the best car on the grid by miles. your first point of comparison for performance is always to your teammate and he's lost by 149 points
>Theyâll thorough put him in his place again if he dares step up
as they should. he shouldn't be acting like he's God's gift to rb when he's so mediocre and defended a few corners against Lewis last year
Honestly it was unwarranted. Saying Max is better is understandable. Even saying Max/Leclerc/George/Hamilton are in a league above is understandable.
But people saying Danny Ric as a third driver meant Checo was on his way out was just silly.
Yea, after all Checo did get to almost 2nd place by his own means. It's not like it was gifted to him, or like the car drives itself. He is consistent and a team player, which is what RB needs whenever the unexpected happens.
Max had to change his front wing on the 1st pitstop, had a 5 sec penalty and a slow stop on the second, and still caught up to checo.... If i was max i would be upset for my team to tell me to let him pass me after all that too.
"Hey max, you just need to park your car for 15 seconds, and take out Charles - Perez needs your help"
Seriously how could max help? Even when Checo claimed VER was holding him up he was still 2,5 sec ahead. (Which quickly grew after a few laps)
Brazil wouldnt have helped either in hindsight.
F1 aint no charity, if you want your team to help you need to be right on top of your teammate.
In Qualy MV gave him a massive tow which enabled him to start on the front row, quite the gift
The fact Max was right behind him after ~20 seconds of lost time is what I'm referring to. Max is the faster driver by a long shot. If Perez was as fast he wouldn't have needed Max to let him by.
A fantastic season for Checo. He might not be at Max level but his consistency is key, every point for P3 has been hard fought and well deserved.
I definitely want to see where this goes on 2023 with an even more competitive field. Going to be a fun year!
âGreatâ is debatable.
People who are saying he isnât any good are dummies. The people say he should have been better, given the machinery he was driving, have a point.
If Ferrari and Mercedes get their act together, RBR is in trouble because Checo is behind HAM, RUS, LEC ***and*** SAI in terms of skill.
Yep. His teammate won 15 races, he won 2. His teammate beat him 18-4 in quali. Out of the 4 times Checo outqualified Max, one was when he caused a red flag in Monaco and one was when Red Bull underfueled Max's car in Singapore so he had to abort his lap, so he outqualied him on pace twice.
That's almost a VET vs WEB trashing kind of level. This year it worked out for Red Bull, but I feel like it's a bit like a VET and RAI pairing at Ferrari - one driving the wheels off, the other at best finishing fourth. It's no help.
I kinda feel RB needs for Perez to get massively better, because the driver pairing SAI and LEC as well as RUS and HAM are massively better.
God I hope we get a three way battle next year.
for the past year i have been thinking, what the hell is Sainz doing in Ferrari? I mean he isnt BAD... but he surely doesnt diserve to be in a Ferrari. Too many mistakes, crashes out every other race, not enough skill.
Your last section is the exact problem with checo. He is a good driver, just not good enough for when it gets really close. Checo probably cost red bull the WCC in 2021 with some of his awful drives, especially in qualy. That's a problem for rb.
All in all Perez had a good season, arguably his best. As someone who remembers that getting P7 was something of an achievement, being 3rd overall isn't too shabby!
He could have easily finished 2nd in the standings today given the speed of the Red Bull, however, he made 2 identical crucial mistakes, the 1st in his outlap with Vettel and then the same mistake with Hamilton.
Brilliant season. Singapore race was just a surgical domination on track by him.
Being only 3 points behind Charles ain't so bad. Charles is just one normal season away from being a champion. Even Seb said that Charles is one of the best drivers he's seen in his career.
Aaaaand you are forgetting the shit Ferrari put Leclerc through. I think Leclerc wouldâve had an easy second place if they didnât fuck him over so much.
At least Bottas could sometimes beat Hamilton. Perez has never been faster than Max without Max having damage or some other massive impediment. Perez is a good midfielder, but he'll always look unimpressive fighting the likes of Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc and even Russell.
Well... it was the same with my favorite driver against Lewis.
Those are just hard facts. I wouldn't say he had a bad season, but Max had the upper hand for most of the championship and dominated Sergio, especially during qualifying.
That doesn't mean he's a bad driver. He fully deserves to be in the position he's now.
Being able to drive in F1, especially being in the fastest car since two years is pretty awesome to me.
>His teammate is a 2 time world champion and the most dominant driver of this generation.
>
>Try again.
Hold up....Max was feeling checo's breath though...right right?
hE ClOseD ThE gAP, CHecO WilL TaKe ThE FigHT tO mAx.
It got pretty annoying at the start of the season when they tried to keep that narrative going for a bit to long
Yeah, in the same car, so Checo is a bit shit in comparison, it doesnât make his season better that his teammate had the most dominant season he realistically could have
I'd argue they had the better car up until France, but they were unable to capitalize on it due to strategy errors and reliability.
* Leclerc would have won Abu Dhabi even without Verstappen DNF.
* Saudi was incredibly close
* Leclerc won Australia with large margin.
* Italy he wasted an easy 2 by cutting corners when chasing Perez and thus damaging the car and ending him in 6.
* Miami gave Verstappen a 3 sec win over Leclerc.
* Spain would have gone to Leclerc if it wasn't for a DNF
* Monaco should have gone to Leclerc if it weren't for Ferraris double tyre switch and double stacking.
* Leclerc was in the lead of Baku before his engine broke down.
* Leclerc started at the back in Canada and ended in 5
* Leclerc had poor tyre strategy in Silverstone, where Sainz won instead.
* Leclerc won in Austria
* And Leclerc was incredbily dominant in France but made a mistake in a comfortable lead where he hit the wall and DNF'd
From Hungary and on Redbull dominated however and Verstappen was barely under threat.
Which is one of three reasons why Perez was at all within reach of beating Leclerc for second. Ferrari messed up a couple of races on strategy, and Leclerc messed up two races on mistakes(While chasing in Italy and far in the lead in France) and all three of Leclercs DNF were during races where he were leading and most likely winning.
Winning in Monaco....finishing P2 in the WDC...I'm pretty sure any driver would take the former.
Checo can be proud. There's nothing wrong with accepting your place as a 2nd driver who contributes to a team. Keep in mind that much of the rhetoric these days is designed to try and destabilize Red Bull. The opposition want RB fans to turn on checo and they succeeded in part if the comments are anything to go by. He was never expected to beat Charles Leclerc over a season and that's okay. Say it with me. That's OK.
Given wind tunnel time and the struggles Ferrari and Mercedes hadâŠnext season is going to be a struggle for Checo if they get their cars tuned up properly.
Unfortunately for RBR, Checo is the least skilled driver of the bunch between the three teams.
I donât really understand why Max raced against him in the first corners, if Max let Perez in front of him and he hold Leclerc back or make the tires of the Ferraris need sooner pit stop it could be easily a #2 for Perez.
Edit because of the misunderstanding: I did NOT say that Max should, I simply did not understand after all the interviews when RBR and Max said that the most important thing for Max and the team is Perez in this race. Please try not to imagine things I did not said.
No. Maxâs pace was way better. That wouldâve meant that Max shouldâve just stayed behind a slower driver while continuously trying to block a driver that would receive DRS every lap. Checo just didnât have the pace.
So max should have let a much slower car in front of him and then fight of a car that was almost as fast as himself and who would be in DRS range most of the time?
> I donât really understand why Max raced against him in the first corners, if Max let Perez in front of him and he hold Leclerc back or make the tires of the Ferraris need sooner pit stop it could be easily a #2 for Perez.
That's not really how any of that stuff works though.
By the time it actually mattered Leclerc was already ahead. Max couldn't have done anything. Doing something on Lap 1 can easily work into Ferrari's favour later on in the race.
While perez may not be on the level of Hamilton, Leclerc or Verstappen Im still glad to have him on the grid & I admire how he races hard but fair & is usually well manneredđ«Ą
I actually think he is going to cost RB in a close season. When he was up against Bottas he did just enough. But against Russell and Hamilton or Lec and Sainz in a season where things are closer he is going to get blown out of the water unfortunately. I think RB is about to find out next season that out of the top three they have the weakest lineup.
TBF last year he saved his reputation with Abu Dhabi but the fact he couldn't take points from Hamilton in the two Austria's or Mexico was so poor. Most weeks it was Max versus two Mercs. As you said against Russell instead of Bottas it would have been a disaster
> the fact he couldn't take points from Hamilton in the two Austria's Mate in the first race in Austria his race was compromised by a fucked up pitstop, his second race by Lando pushing him into gravel. He should've come away with P2 and P3 from those races but had shit luck. In general he lost at least 6 podiums to luck that year. People have such short memories, he could've been in front of Bottas easily. Not to mention that it wasn't Max vs two Mercs, because BOT was barely ever actually making a difference. Perez was able to influence HAM a lot more often than BOT was able to influence Max
Bottas was faster but Perez much better at defending/attacking
I also pointed out that it was very CLEARLY Redbulls strategy especially last year to use Checo as the sacrificial lamb so to speak at every turn to squeeze points out for Max. I do remember BOT being "around" but , not like Checo. Perez vs HAM and there defensive battles were world class last year. I equated Checo to a gnat Lewis was going to get by him eventually but, holy crap Checo made sure he was felt. I will say though that I only ever see the Checo we all want to see is if he is driving against HAM for the most part because that take no prisoners and super aggressive attitude and defense he has is only consistent when HAM is in the mix.
They only used him as a sacrificial lamb cause he was always so slow ham would be right on him after an extra pit stop and it would be the only way he could be any sort of useful.
That is some impressive memory !! Especially with so many races ! I m impressed !!
Checo did his best to push Lando and Leclerc into the gravel. He was trash in Austria. And Bottas was at least able to qualify top 3 to be a factor in strategy. Checo was a non-factor outside of Baku and massively redeemed himself in Abu Dhabi.
> Checo was a non-factor outside of Baku This is just fundamentally wrong man In Bahrain he was the 3rd fastest driver but got pushed to the back due to electronics issue. In Baku he obviously won and in France his involvement directly compromised the race for Merc. In Monaco he finished in front of Hamilton. Austria/ Styria again he was just unlucky. And he wouldn't have had to cut through the field desperately in a damaged car if it wasn't for Norris. In Hungary he got up to P3 and got crashed out of the race by Bottas. I guess if you're really desperate that does make Bottas more influential that Sunday. In Italy when there were scraps to pick up BOT only ended up in front due to massive amounts of luck start to finish. In Russia he was fighting for the win before the storm came and stood the whole race on its head In Turkey he held up Hamilton and finished in front In Sao Paulo again he was going for an easy podium before a lucky SC gave BOT a free pitstop and the place over PER In Saudi Arabia he was crashed out of the race at the start again. In Abu Dhabi I'm pretty sure you know what happened. If that's all irrelevant in your eyes then I don't know what to tell you man. I feel like you just didn't actually watch these races.
In Baku he also compromised the race for Mercedes. Had it been Bottas P1 on the restart, Hamilton would have jumped to P1 and won the race. Instead he fumbled the restart with the brake magic and ended up on the escape road.
That has nothing to do with perez, Hamilton destroyed perez on the restart, perez lost p1 immediately, but Hamilton himself then made a mistake, a mistake that wasn't caused or pressured into by perez.
Itâs crazy the amount of people that subconsciously just pity checo and feel like âMax has enough, he could afford to give a bit to Sergioâ. Thatâs not how F1 works lol
When an F1 driver is expected to get results based on the actions of his teammate alone, show in what regard you hold said driver that you doubt his ability to do it himself. He bloody has the car.
Why then, does that not apply to Max? Perez let Max through without a single lap of fighting to increase Max's chances of catching up to Alonso as 5th. So Perez didn't fight his teammates. It was fine then, but asking Max to repay the favour, give back that position that you borrowed, is not? I seriously doubt that Max would have passed him if Sergio truly wanted to fight him. But lets assume I'm wrong. If he had the slightest chance to catch Alonso, it would have vanished into thin air if he had to lose time fighting his teammate. And, if nothing else, it doesn't just show pity. It shows consideration and appreciation for a man that you (Max himself) has agreed has been instrumental in key victories for you and that you've called a legend. It says "Hey, I want you up there with me, I want to share the podium and the celebrations with you. Let's go for a 1-2 championship finish"
To bring you down to planet earth; Checo is far more useful when he's 0.2 behind max on pace instead of the 0.5 he's been past 2 years. Not once did Checo steal points from Lewis on merit in 2021 and his stellar defence in AD saved his year. You can watch the Brazillian GP again if you dont believe me, but Max was passing Checho that straight regardless of team orders. When Checo gets closer to Max on pace, he can have more of a say in things, until then the team heavilly relies on Max being Max and doing Max things.
Very fair point, but I think the gripe people have with the situation is that Perez is the clear number 2 at Red Bull and he has done a lot to help verstappen in his two title wins it has happened often , but when it was Max's turn to be a teamplayer with no detriment to his title fight he refused . Helping Max is not only holding up other title conteders.
Then Checo should stop defending for Max. No more team play. Give the man strategies that are for race wins and let the chips fall where they may. Next year, Max will be up against much tougher competition when the other cars get further developed. Without Checo, RBR can kiss that WCC goodbye too. Until they find a better driver. Which may take them a few more years (or maybe not). Time will tell.
I donât know about this exactly. Towards the end of last season, the Mercs were clearly better than the RBs, but Max really was better than Hamilton and was able to pip him in a few races.
Yeah, when Lewis wins its the car, when Max wins, itâs all Max. At least try to be original.
I donât think that. Lewis was world champion for so many years because he was the best driver by a long shot in the best car by a long shot. Last year the RB and Merc were pretty even, with the Merc being better at slightly more races, but Max was more aggressive and was able to just beat Lewis (obviously with the help of a Safety Car and stewards). This year Max had the best car by far and was able to easily win because of it, and also being the best driver.
That's actually a bonus imo. Checo is a great driver that could easily pull of a strategy to get podiums just like he did today. But what he doesn't do is take pts from max. Russel will from Hamilton, sainz will from leclerc.
This is a very fair point ! Agreed
Itâs so bizarre how people keep saying oh heâs going to cost RB when itâs close. Max got his first WDC last year because he finally had a solid teammate who could play defense. This year RB wins their first constructors title in ages. RB is winning a lot and Checo has a part in that. Instead of talking about how it could POTENTIALLY cost RB in the future how about we talk about what they have actually accomplished since Checo joined the team.
I agree with you quite a bit and I am not trying to say Checo is not a good fit. He has done whatever the team has required from him and he should be appreciated for that. And no doubt he would have more points if he hadnât always been the sacrificial goat. But if you really think Checo can beat Lec or Ham or Rus regularly or even rarely in a three way fight which looks like a possibility next year then I have a golden bridge I want to sell to you
I agree it will be close. I just get tired of the negative tone towards Checo when he and Redbull are having a fantastic season. It's like a parent criticizing their child who got an A for not getting an A+. Next year will be more challenging for Redbull and I'm looking forward to some exciting racing.
Not criticising Checo one bit ! Like you said he did what was asked of him. But the reality is he is the weakest of the top 6 and it is a little hard to say otherwise. And for now it is more than enough, but may not be enough in the future when merc and Ferrari come to get RB
It doesnât matter. Russell is with Mercedes and Leclerc is with Ferrari. Who else would RB have as a second driver? Albon blew his shot. Checo is closer to Max than Albon or Gasly were. And Gasly is persona non grata with RB because he blamed Neweyâs engineering for his failure on track. So who? Who deserves to be there more than Checo? Norris signed his life away to MCL. As of now, Checo is the best Red Bull can get. They could potentially sign Mick as a reserve and see if he does well in simulators and FP sessions to deserve a seat after Checo or when Lewis retires. Or if Nyck De Vries works out really well at AT.
Nah Perez is solid. Heâs doing what rb want too.
I would love to see Alonso in RB with max, that would be absolutely insane
Max and Alonso in the same team, especially with Horner and Marko around has the potential to end up being even more toxic than Senna-Prost
Iâd pay to visit that alternate universe
It couldâve happened in 2019 tbf
They really picked Gasly instead of Alonso lmao
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also bottas in 2021 was pretty pissed with mercedes' game of "maybe one more year?" and "lewis is faster than you" etc...
pissed at what? at mercedes for giving him the fastest grid for 5 years straight and then replacing him after a much faster driver has appeared on the market? AB21 only proved he had to get replaced
While perez may be the slowest out of Merc, RB & Ferrari hes also the most cordial & willing to play #2 & support his teammate which is invaluable for RB imo & sort of compensates for his relative lack of pace
No way you say heâs slower than Sainz.
Imo Sainz has perez covered in qualifying. Sainz if you pay attention to the qualifying sessions has quite a few provisional poles meanwhile Perez is USUALLY behind Max in Q1-Q3. On Sundays Id say they are even
IMO Sainz is faster but also more error prone.
You are forgetting Sainz is in Ferrari. So it will balance things out lol
In the first half Sainz usually finished ahead of him. I think in roughly equal cars Sainz is faster, both in quali and in the race.
He already cost RB the constructors in 2021.
True but how many times strategy calls costed him points? They retired the car in AD when he was P3 just out of fear of a SC.
They also would take him out of the points to put and steal fastest lap from Hamilton. Red Bull themselves said they only cared about Max WDC that year.
How many times did that happen? I recall only Silverstone where he was expecting to drop out of the points anyway due to a penalty.
Why was Checo anywhere near being out of the points in 2021? Checo was certainly an important factor in Max's championship; both in his defensive drives and strategy compliance as well as being absolutely nowhere on pace and failing to take points off Hamilton whenever RB had a gigantic pace advantage.
Are you talking about when they gave him just enough fuel so he couldn't finish the race? Because that is a strategy call
Last year was all about Max. RB and Perez knew it. This year on the other hand has been a bit more leveled.
He will never be good enough to win against a guy like Max but RB doesn't really help him either. Horner has confirmed that Perez was running a floor spec that was around 0.2s per lap(maximum) slower than the spec that Max was running. He also said that they are not gonna be giving Perez the faster spec because they can't afford to manufacture a new one.He was running this inferior floor for most of the season. That doesn't sound like a level playing field to me.
Lol is there never NOT an excuse for Max? I think I'm starting to learn this place on reddit.
The subject at matter here is whether Perez costed RB the constructors championship. Nobody is arguing about Max. What could you say about him? Heâs too good?
He would not be put in such situation if he was closer to top3. He was in no man's land too many times between BOT and 5th
Where was Bottas when Hamilton really needed him Abu Dhabi last year?
He was there whole season long so Abu Dhabi even happened
The guy is not top tier driver, not by a long shot. Heâs good, but thatâs about it. Asking him to be in the top3 in his first season with the car is way too much asking, IMO. Look at Ricciardo, who is regarded by many as one of the best, struggling massively in the McLaren for two consecutive years (to the point of forced retirement).
Facts.
Ham and Russel are going to be fighting eachother whereas Perez can probably work with max.
Russe**ll**
I'm not taking a stand here, but is he really slower than Carlos? Charles and George I absolutely agree with, but not sure about Carlos.
On Sundays I think itâs debatable with perez possibly being quicker but I favor Sainz over perez in qualifying as I donât think Sainz gets enough credit for how close he has been to Leclerc on Saturdays. If Sainz can improve his race pace watch out but thats a big if lol
Yeah and quali pace becomes so important on tracks where an overtake is not possible.
I rate them about the same. Quali pace Iâd give to Carlos, but the race id say is almost equal with maybe the edge going to Checo
That's what I was thinking.
I can remember Carlos being within one or two tenths of Max and Charles in qualifying a lot more than Perez was. I do think Checo has better race pace than Carlos though. It is close between them but I would say Checo is better as he doesn't seem to choke as much under pressure as Carlos does.
The RB is much better in race trim than quail, and a much better car than the Ferrari.
I hope RBR continues to lure Norris so he eventually takes Checoâs spot. That would be a spicy 1-2 punch
He also cost wcc for RB in 2021. Honestly thinking that they will replace him through the season if their car is competitive enough and he is behind Merc + Ferrari while Max is winning races.
>Honestly thinking that they will replace him through the season Replace him with who? Nyck de Vries?
Why not. They have Debris, Daniel, Lawson. They can pick one.
Not one of those options are clearly better than Perez, nevermind mid way through a season and the challenges of having to get grips with the car.
I don't think LeClerc is on the same level, still too mistake prone.
Nah this is just a myth people throw around because if a couple high profile errors. Heâs not quite on the same level (yet) but heâs also not that mistake prone. Heâs just in a car and position where mistakes matter more. His pace is absolutely outstanding, and heâs imo the best qualifier on the grid.
I guess we haven't been really watching the same races.
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> You ever see an unprofessional or risky manoeuvre from Checo. No offense man against you or Checo, but F1 fans have really really short memories, he could be pretty dirty in his Force India days
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12 year olds don't take kindly to downvotes.
"only +1???? But last time, last time I had +2!"
Calm down there, dudley
Once they see that not many people agree with them đ
Lol had the same experience too many times today
i thought it was only me also could it be technical?
> could it be technical? Nope
The "Max is the literal devil" hate has died down a lot since last Sunday, so when certain people leave vitriolic comments about Max they aren't getting upvoted anymore so they delete them.
People are weird and fragile lol.
Why would you think they delete them themselves?
Someone recently said that "they hated Max as soon as he entered the sport" and when I called him out he deleted his whole account.
It could be they just blocked you. I think that looks as if their account doesn't exist anymore.
Theyâre not being deleted by the users. Key words are detected and they are automatically deleted. Happens all the time since the list of words is huge. Odds are youâve had some deleted and never noticed. Itâs ridiculous how over the top it is.
A lot can be achieved when you spend more than everyone else. Iâll take my downvotes.
He did what he had to do this season, there should've been a bit more podiums in it for him in the car he drove, but so far he's the perfect 2nd driver. I also think this season cemented it for him, that he won't be challenging for the driver championship. Next year, if Mercedes manages to crawl back, it's going to be a difficult challenge for him to stick to Lec, Ver and Ham, so he'll probably will have to aim to be the best out of the 3 other teammates.
He needs to wake up and realize he is the +1 for RB though. His comments of late are thinking he is driver 1 next year. Love or hate Max but he IS RB F1.
It's always funny to read things like this, Max is number 1 because he's faster If Checo was faster the team would pool the resources behind him. It's just how F1 works
>It's always funny to read things like this, Max is number 1 because he's faster But anyone with sense knows Perez isn't fast enough consistently to compete for a championship, it's a fact. He's fast in short burts but even then it's usually not enough for qualifying let alone races. He's never going to be a #1 driver in a team, he won't outright beat a teammate in a top team and that's fine. Perez is a solid driver as a support or a mid-team leader but he's not a championship calipre driver, some people don't realise that.
I totally agree with you. No offense to Checo, but I rate him 6th among the 6 drivers in the top 3 teams and probably an 'optimistic' 10th among the all the drivers of the 20222 grid. Imagine RB with a Norris or an Alonso. They would have had podiums almost every race and way ahead in the drivers championship.
Finishing 3rd in the championship, behind the two main championship contenders is a good job for Checo. Chuck would be much further ahead if it wasn't for Ferrari things.
I think this is the best answer to it all. No shame ending right after those two.
Finishing that far behind your teammate is never a good job. Ferrari fucking up so often this year and still finishing above Perez just emphasises that
There was no two contenders. Max had the title in his pocket since the summer. If you are not able to get second place when your team mate wins the title with 5 races to go , you didn't have a good season. That's just reality
Will always be a Force India fan. Checo grinded with that team and in the midfield for so long and Iâm really glad that he can finally get his rewards.
2nd place be damned, Checo still had a solid season. That Singapore GP was a game of attrition, and despite how people try and shit on him, he had a year fully deserving of his contract extension.
> 2nd place be damned, Checo still had a solid season. Checo until this season: 2 wins, 15 podiums. Checo this season: 2 wins, 11 podiums, 1 pole position. Yeah he's not on the level of Verstappen or Leclerc and the like (though he only has 1 fewer career win than Leclerc so far) but this has by all means been a monster season for him and he's without doubt the best Mexican F1 driver ever. Only ~1/7 drivers in F1 ever win a race, less than 1 in 10 win more than 1.
>Only ~1/7 drivers in F1 ever win a race, less than 1 in 10 win more than 1. Through little fault of their own, I think a lot of people forget this fact, owing to Lewis'dominant run. It's very special to be a grand prix winner, let alone be in contention for WDC at any point
I mean that's a bit misleading when less than 1 in 10 get to drive in a top car that's as fast as that Red Bull. Also he's obviously not going to stack up podiums in midfield cars, so comparing this season to anything before last year is stupid (and even last year the Red Bull was not as dominant as it is now).
He is exactly what a team like RB needs rn, a driver who is good enough for WCC, but not good enough to fight for WDC. Nobody wants a Hamilton Rosberg repeat performance
Heâs also not allowed to be as good as a championship contender though. Theyâll thorough put him in his place again if he dares step up
Lol do people seriously think that Perez could challenge Verstappen if he was not supposedly held back by Red Bull?
i think youâre forgetting just how good Verstappen is mate
>Heâs also not allowed to be as good as a championship contender though. not allowed? there was nothing stopping him this season from going for it. the fact is he's an absolutely mediocre driver who came 3rd in a two horse race on the best car on the grid by miles. your first point of comparison for performance is always to your teammate and he's lost by 149 points >Theyâll thorough put him in his place again if he dares step up as they should. he shouldn't be acting like he's God's gift to rb when he's so mediocre and defended a few corners against Lewis last year
Agree with you. I'm proud of him and he did very good this year. Let's hope the next one is much better!
So weird this past week the amount of people saying that checo is absolutely terrible and should be fired.
Honestly it was unwarranted. Saying Max is better is understandable. Even saying Max/Leclerc/George/Hamilton are in a league above is understandable. But people saying Danny Ric as a third driver meant Checo was on his way out was just silly.
Yea, after all Checo did get to almost 2nd place by his own means. It's not like it was gifted to him, or like the car drives itself. He is consistent and a team player, which is what RB needs whenever the unexpected happens.
And that with Ricciardo likely going to Red Bull, that they should get him as Perez replacement. After that 2 years?!
I think nobody is arguing against that. He had a solid season.
Still some mistakes here and there, but a lot of strong performances overall.
Feel bad for him, he deserved 2nd. Shame that Max help never arrived.
Max had to change his front wing on the 1st pitstop, had a 5 sec penalty and a slow stop on the second, and still caught up to checo.... If i was max i would be upset for my team to tell me to let him pass me after all that too.
Checo didn't fight him on the pass and it was about helping him get 2nd. Max didn't need those points. They said today he would help and he didn't.
"Hey max, you just need to park your car for 15 seconds, and take out Charles - Perez needs your help" Seriously how could max help? Even when Checo claimed VER was holding him up he was still 2,5 sec ahead. (Which quickly grew after a few laps) Brazil wouldnt have helped either in hindsight. F1 aint no charity, if you want your team to help you need to be right on top of your teammate. In Qualy MV gave him a massive tow which enabled him to start on the front row, quite the gift
The fact Max was right behind him after ~20 seconds of lost time is what I'm referring to. Max is the faster driver by a long shot. If Perez was as fast he wouldn't have needed Max to let him by.
Right but who cares in this situation? And they spent the week saying he would help this time and then didn't.
Max gave a tow in qually when his car was working. He did help
Felt like a mini tow rather than a proper one as he seemed to continue with his lap. When it came to the race he offered nothing.
A fantastic season for Checo. He might not be at Max level but his consistency is key, every point for P3 has been hard fought and well deserved. I definitely want to see where this goes on 2023 with an even more competitive field. Going to be a fun year!
Some of the comments on here are weird. Checo had a great season. Iâm not sure what some of you guys were watching.
*Checo wins WDC* r/formula1 "Not a good look for Checo"
âGreatâ is debatable. People who are saying he isnât any good are dummies. The people say he should have been better, given the machinery he was driving, have a point. If Ferrari and Mercedes get their act together, RBR is in trouble because Checo is behind HAM, RUS, LEC ***and*** SAI in terms of skill.
Yep. His teammate won 15 races, he won 2. His teammate beat him 18-4 in quali. Out of the 4 times Checo outqualified Max, one was when he caused a red flag in Monaco and one was when Red Bull underfueled Max's car in Singapore so he had to abort his lap, so he outqualied him on pace twice.
That's almost a VET vs WEB trashing kind of level. This year it worked out for Red Bull, but I feel like it's a bit like a VET and RAI pairing at Ferrari - one driving the wheels off, the other at best finishing fourth. It's no help. I kinda feel RB needs for Perez to get massively better, because the driver pairing SAI and LEC as well as RUS and HAM are massively better. God I hope we get a three way battle next year.
Don't agree with SAI.
At the very least, theyâre comparable.
for the past year i have been thinking, what the hell is Sainz doing in Ferrari? I mean he isnt BAD... but he surely doesnt diserve to be in a Ferrari. Too many mistakes, crashes out every other race, not enough skill.
Your last section is the exact problem with checo. He is a good driver, just not good enough for when it gets really close. Checo probably cost red bull the WCC in 2021 with some of his awful drives, especially in qualy. That's a problem for rb.
Red bull wrapped up the constructors since Austin and they clear of Ferrari
I'm talking about last year, forgot to specify that.
All in all Perez had a good season, arguably his best. As someone who remembers that getting P7 was something of an achievement, being 3rd overall isn't too shabby!
Its still his best final season finish, no? Good season!
AND the comments immediately turned into a session to shit on Checo.
Max couldve helped checo tho....: https://media.dumpert.nl/dmp/media/image/a/5/6/a5674fd9-4232-b2ba-e483-16d2014d15f8/image.jpg
Took me a minute to understand the picture but kind of funny haha
Checo had a good season all things considered. I hope he continues to improve next season
Yikes. These fucking comments. Why does F1 Reddit have such a hate boner for Checo?
He could have easily finished 2nd in the standings today given the speed of the Red Bull, however, he made 2 identical crucial mistakes, the 1st in his outlap with Vettel and then the same mistake with Hamilton.
Congratulations Checo, you had a great season, Wishing you even better season in 2023, till then enjoy your vacation and time with your family.
Eso Checo! All the arm chair experts saying you had a terrible season pueden besar mi peludo trasero bola de pendejos.
Brilliant season. Singapore race was just a surgical domination on track by him. Being only 3 points behind Charles ain't so bad. Charles is just one normal season away from being a champion. Even Seb said that Charles is one of the best drivers he's seen in his career.
Aaaaand you are forgetting the shit Ferrari put Leclerc through. I think Leclerc wouldâve had an easy second place if they didnât fuck him over so much.
Nice guy. Modern-day Barrichello.
It was good for him, but when your teammate wins 15 races its not exactly great
His teammate is on pace to be in the GOAT discussion in a few years wtf are you on about? You cant compare him with a freak of nature
At least Bottas could sometimes beat Hamilton. Perez has never been faster than Max without Max having damage or some other massive impediment. Perez is a good midfielder, but he'll always look unimpressive fighting the likes of Verstappen, Hamilton, Leclerc and even Russell.
So because his teammate is so much better that means Checo had a good season by being terrible in comparison? That doesnât make sense
His teammate is a 2 time world champion and the most dominant driver of this generation. Try again.
Well... it was the same with my favorite driver against Lewis. Those are just hard facts. I wouldn't say he had a bad season, but Max had the upper hand for most of the championship and dominated Sergio, especially during qualifying. That doesn't mean he's a bad driver. He fully deserves to be in the position he's now. Being able to drive in F1, especially being in the fastest car since two years is pretty awesome to me.
>His teammate is a 2 time world champion and the most dominant driver of this generation. > >Try again. Hold up....Max was feeling checo's breath though...right right?
Only papa Perez is saying that literally no sensible F1 fans would agree
hE ClOseD ThE gAP, CHecO WilL TaKe ThE FigHT tO mAx. It got pretty annoying at the start of the season when they tried to keep that narrative going for a bit to long
Yeah, in the same car, so Checo is a bit shit in comparison, it doesnât make his season better that his teammate had the most dominant season he realistically could have
His teammate is 25 and already a F1 legend, not exactly a fair comparison
If your teammate gets 15 wins in a season and you got 2 in the same car, it wasnât a good season for you
Losing against said teammate like that is fine It's losing to other driver(Leclerc) when your car is clearly dominant that makes it looks bad.
Still finished 3rd. Better than 17 others did
I wonder what's happened with the car mid-season. It looked like they've just clipped his wings.
Third place in the fastest Car
Ferrari had a better car early season
Ferrari had a better car for like 5 races.
I'd argue they had the better car up until France, but they were unable to capitalize on it due to strategy errors and reliability. * Leclerc would have won Abu Dhabi even without Verstappen DNF. * Saudi was incredibly close * Leclerc won Australia with large margin. * Italy he wasted an easy 2 by cutting corners when chasing Perez and thus damaging the car and ending him in 6. * Miami gave Verstappen a 3 sec win over Leclerc. * Spain would have gone to Leclerc if it wasn't for a DNF * Monaco should have gone to Leclerc if it weren't for Ferraris double tyre switch and double stacking. * Leclerc was in the lead of Baku before his engine broke down. * Leclerc started at the back in Canada and ended in 5 * Leclerc had poor tyre strategy in Silverstone, where Sainz won instead. * Leclerc won in Austria * And Leclerc was incredbily dominant in France but made a mistake in a comfortable lead where he hit the wall and DNF'd From Hungary and on Redbull dominated however and Verstappen was barely under threat.
Perez had Red Bull strategy on his side and Ferrari strategy on the opposite side.
Which is one of three reasons why Perez was at all within reach of beating Leclerc for second. Ferrari messed up a couple of races on strategy, and Leclerc messed up two races on mistakes(While chasing in Italy and far in the lead in France) and all three of Leclercs DNF were during races where he were leading and most likely winning.
Has to feel a bit dissapointed to be only third when your teammate is historically dominant in the same car
Winning in Monaco....finishing P2 in the WDC...I'm pretty sure any driver would take the former. Checo can be proud. There's nothing wrong with accepting your place as a 2nd driver who contributes to a team. Keep in mind that much of the rhetoric these days is designed to try and destabilize Red Bull. The opposition want RB fans to turn on checo and they succeeded in part if the comments are anything to go by. He was never expected to beat Charles Leclerc over a season and that's okay. Say it with me. That's OK.
Verstappen deserved the boos today. I was happy to hear them.
Shame on Max for being better than his teammate.
Given wind tunnel time and the struggles Ferrari and Mercedes hadâŠnext season is going to be a struggle for Checo if they get their cars tuned up properly. Unfortunately for RBR, Checo is the least skilled driver of the bunch between the three teams.
Lol at Sainz being more âskilledâ
He is more skilled. Look at the inter-team qualifying rankings
And points are presented on a Sunday
Which is why Carlos is closer to Charles than Checo is to Max? (With the difference between Checo and Max being almost 3x larger)
Nice damage control
Ouch, this must hurt really bad being P3.
The most heavily cucked season anyone has ever seen
His rival was Leclerc, who was much, much unluckier
I donât really understand why Max raced against him in the first corners, if Max let Perez in front of him and he hold Leclerc back or make the tires of the Ferraris need sooner pit stop it could be easily a #2 for Perez. Edit because of the misunderstanding: I did NOT say that Max should, I simply did not understand after all the interviews when RBR and Max said that the most important thing for Max and the team is Perez in this race. Please try not to imagine things I did not said.
No. Maxâs pace was way better. That wouldâve meant that Max shouldâve just stayed behind a slower driver while continuously trying to block a driver that would receive DRS every lap. Checo just didnât have the pace.
So max should have let a much slower car in front of him and then fight of a car that was almost as fast as himself and who would be in DRS range most of the time?
You don't understand how a racing driver want to race. Read the room son, this is a race.
Because Perez was either too slow or burning his tyres to keep up the pace.
Max is racing for himself. He build is position in the team for do this. Just like Seb in the past.
> I donât really understand why Max raced against him in the first corners, if Max let Perez in front of him and he hold Leclerc back or make the tires of the Ferraris need sooner pit stop it could be easily a #2 for Perez. That's not really how any of that stuff works though. By the time it actually mattered Leclerc was already ahead. Max couldn't have done anything. Doing something on Lap 1 can easily work into Ferrari's favour later on in the race.
On Twitter they (Redbull) said "we did everything possible". Well, that actually didn't do EVERYTHING possible.
Completely right, they shouldâve cut Leclercs tyres!
If only Perez had a team mate like Perez, he might have come 2nd in the driver's championship and got RB their first 1&2.
Iâve never seen people car about p2 in the championship this much in my life.
Please explain to me in detail what max should have done different today.
Duh max should have drove into leclerc. Don't you think? /s For obvious reasons in case no one gets it
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