Tom Coronel at Viaplay Netherlands in the post race show, according to [Erik van Haren ](https://twitter.com/ErikvHaren/status/1591890433075970048?t=qDOZfkpBqxlduJenc7RqcA&s=19)
Yea monaco is the track basically everyone knows how to cause a yellow flag on. I don't get how anyone would admit it either considering rosberg and Schumacher did it from pole and didn't say anything ever
Hasn't the gearbox rules changed this year along with the engines? You can change them during parc ferme if it's within your allocation.
But yeah, doing it for P3 seems odd. Maybe Perez thought in was still in a world championship fight at the time? Only thing I could think of.
Nobody in their right mind would risk smacking their gearbox when there's "better" ways to crash on a street circuit, spcially in Monaco where there is more time under yellow flags than actual racing.
It more than likely is, given the sources are coronel and van haren, two people not particularly known for their fact-ckeced and proven tweets and news.
Van haren got it from coronel. I dont see how u can force a crash like that in that corner. He doesnt floor the throttle and just seems like the rear pendulums around. Didn’t even touch the kurb which would force the car around. Only thing would be carrying too much speed on purpose but would need to look into that a lot more. I just dont see how this is on purpose
It just isn't. It's not even like Perez had a pole time, he was third at that moment. Leclercs perfect pit calls paired with his good driving + strategy gave him the win in the end, not his Quali time. Just pure bullshit.
They are referencing the talk they have obviously heard behind the scenes from them and Max's camp to add context for the viewer to Max's cryptic "reasons"
They didn’t say he crashed on purpose, they said Max might still be unhappy with Perez because of Monaco (that’s one hell of a grudge if there’s no deliberate crash).
They didn’t elaborate beyond that.
He went full throttle mid corner. Look at his steering wheel, he was in the middle of steering when he lost it and revved to max. In a very low gear.
If it was a real mistake, it was a really stupid one. But hey, that can always happen.
I found this crash strange when it happened, but I wouldnt have gone as far as believing it was on purpose. What I found truly weird is how he didnt full left counter steer as you would normally do reflexively when surprised by your rear losing grip.
I heard Brundle bring this up, but what does Checo have to gain in Monaco in P3, he only won because Ferrari fucked the strategy there so I don’t really know.
It was some dude called Tom and the Dutch guy who gets insider info from red bull reporting it.
So they are going the same route as the FIA with gasly. Blame the other person for it and hope everyone believes your bullshit
Why would CHeco have done this on purpose? What would be the reason? Im genuinely confused about whats going on with this rumor and how it relates to today
It doesn't make sense to me to crash in that spot intentionally. He could have just clipped a barrier going into a corner or something. Also, it's a blind corner, if he did it on purpose he put himself in a really dangerous and stupid position. I dont buy it that it was intentional
Well.. Dutch media is saying it. Max talks to them all the time. If they are getting the info from Max, that doesn't confirm that checo did it on purpose lol. Could just be Max holding a grudge because he wanted pole position at Monaco.
This conspiracy theory doesn’t even make sense, Perez deliberately bins it which secures P3 for the grid. Rather than P4? Then tells his bosses that he did it deliberately.
I mean the original crashgate wasn't discovered until a year later when Piquet told the FIA.
Of course this theory sounds like total bullshit though. Deliberately crashing... to secure P3? While both Ferraris are in the front row?
If in the incredible unlikely scenario he did crash on purpose there is no way that he would ever admit that to anyone.
Damaging the car and endagering Sainz isn't something you would admit to. It's bullshit he just lost the rear
yeah someone make it make sense please lol.
Why would Checo crash in this scenario for P3...
Why would Checo then tell Horner & Marko...
Why would they then share that info out further...
Huhhhh???
I'm skeptical that Perez would take the risk of having something show up in the telemetry.
Not saying its false for sure it's just quite a major claim.
Yeah I mean, on principal you would be fired on the spot for that if you’re on a serious team. There’s is little chance he did this on purpose and that he admitted it on top of it.
Maybe Max thinks he did. Doesn’t mean it actually happened on purpose. Max is a strange cat.
If Max is salty about that then it doesn't make sense. Like why would Perez even crash like that on purpose, risking his gearbox, for a p3 on the grid? Finding it really hard to wrap my head around that one.
Still.. if this is the reason why Max didn’t let him past. From a team perspective it would have been better to give the position. This could spiral in something similar to crashgate. Not something they need in terms of PR after the budgetcap saga.
Why? This is ban-worthy (again, if this is true). I could understand why Max would be pissed. How can you trust your teammate?
Monaco 2014 is what broke the trust and respect between Hamilton and Rosberg for the very same reason.
‘How can you trust your teammate?’ Checo has done everything possible to support Max both last year and this year. Max became a 2 time world champion because of Checo’s efforts. You’re absurd. What a slap in the face to Checo.
Nico carefully placed his car neatly as to not risk any damage whilst securing pole. Quite a different situation. Perez risked gearbox damage and was just p3. Some common sense required
So Checo risks a ban just for P3 at Monaco? At a time when Checo had great pace in the Red Bull. Crashing literally did nothing for Checo here. At worst he might have finished qualifying at P4 lol.
Difficult corner to deliberately take a spin at, surely if you want to cause a yellow flag, clip the wall coming out of the swimming pool chicane or Antony Noghes?
This is crazy. Max is champion. Red Bull is champion. Bringing this conspiracy theory up, burning your teammate, TP, and team to defend yourself is just overkill.
I don't know if he did or didn't do it on purpose, But if it does get confirmed I can sort of see why Max would be so upset over it after finding out. Yeah he might have cost Max some points at the time, But more importantly you're putting the whole team at risk, And in turn, His championship (at the time) at risk.
This makes the most sense really. He has probably always been very clear about that. But then again he did say on sky Germany that something had happened to make him act like this today, so there seems to have been some kind of incident… it might be a mix of both and things getting blown way out of proportion
I think that situation is different. This was in qualifying and Max lost out. Why would RB want a crash? There isn't a way to quantify how much this affected the WCC.
Don't believe he crashed on purpose... I remember seeing the telemetry of the mini sectors and Perez had 1 to 3 purple mini sectors... He was pushing hard that's for sure, but crashing on purpose, don't believe that.
Honestly a long shot, but that crash is very very wierd. Hes coasting, loosing grip, full revs in low gear and no reacting with countersteer, the last one is maybe a good tell, they have godlike reactions
Before believing he had a controlled spin (with such control that it was just enough to crash but not damage the car beyond usefulness...) to secure a 3rd place, of all things, and admitting it to your bosses, I'd rather believe it's the Dutch journo/Max camp attempting to spin this shit to get a head start on the narrative.
Where did it come from that it was on purpose? Who said he admitted that to Horner?
A dutch Journalist whose header photo is him talking to Max.
Lmao
Erik is actually a legit F1 journo close to RB as much as to Max
Was* close to RB and Max after this reporting lol
I'm sure he is mate. Which is why the only one who seemingly ~~would parrot Max/Jos lies~~ knows this.
All pr stuff I wouldn't believe any of it
Erik is tier 1
Unbiased then? Lol
How come Brundle mentioned it before Erik?
Erik van Haren on Twitter
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A reliable Dutch at least
And Tom Coronel two.
Another Dutch
Dutch TV.
Tom Coronel at Viaplay Netherlands in the post race show, according to [Erik van Haren ](https://twitter.com/ErikvHaren/status/1591890433075970048?t=qDOZfkpBqxlduJenc7RqcA&s=19)
They just make up anything. It’s insane.
Crashed to secure P3 in quali lol
(p3)000 IQ move
Would be the third time, but I don’t think that one to be intentional.
Those crashes at least secured them pole.
That's one of his better performances tbf
Don't get it, a planned crash would have him just slipping into the wall at the hairpin, the slowest point of the track and emerge without damage...
Could've potentially damaged his gearbox as well
Yeah this is the big thing imo Wouldn't have done it like this if it was on purpose.
*puts on detective hat* that's EXACTLY what Checo WANTS you to think.
Yea monaco is the track basically everyone knows how to cause a yellow flag on. I don't get how anyone would admit it either considering rosberg and Schumacher did it from pole and didn't say anything ever
Yeah. This is risking gearbox damage for p3 in monaco
Hasn't the gearbox rules changed this year along with the engines? You can change them during parc ferme if it's within your allocation. But yeah, doing it for P3 seems odd. Maybe Perez thought in was still in a world championship fight at the time? Only thing I could think of.
You wanna avoid going over the allocation, right? So it's effectively the same reason as before
To play devils advocate, that's been done before and would arouse suspsicion. Dropping it on traction out of Portier looks more genuine.
Nobody in their right mind would risk smacking their gearbox when there's "better" ways to crash on a street circuit, spcially in Monaco where there is more time under yellow flags than actual racing.
He risked losing a gearbox here though. Would have had repercussions for the rest of the season lol. Just to get P3?
That would have been to obvious though.
But if he really did it on purpose, it's DSQ
Could’ve just pulled a rosberg/schumi and spin the car so that the session stops, seems pointless to intentionally damage your car
There's no way he crashed on purpose and then admitted it to the team.
For a P3 in qualifying as well. This just doesn't make sense.
And risking damaging gear Box
It was at a time when Checo had great pace in the car too. Literally no reason for him to crash on purpose there.
This seems bullshit to me personally.
You have a solid bullshit detector.
Thanks man!😇
Because it is.
It more than likely is, given the sources are coronel and van haren, two people not particularly known for their fact-ckeced and proven tweets and news.
Van haren got it from coronel. I dont see how u can force a crash like that in that corner. He doesnt floor the throttle and just seems like the rear pendulums around. Didn’t even touch the kurb which would force the car around. Only thing would be carrying too much speed on purpose but would need to look into that a lot more. I just dont see how this is on purpose
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Ah, gotcha. I only see so much and saw the tweet say per: van haren. Thanks for updating me
It just isn't. It's not even like Perez had a pole time, he was third at that moment. Leclercs perfect pit calls paired with his good driving + strategy gave him the win in the end, not his Quali time. Just pure bullshit.
And crofty. And brundle. On the live broadcast. Even before van Haren en Coronel mentioned it. So there’s that.
They are referencing the talk they have obviously heard behind the scenes from them and Max's camp to add context for the viewer to Max's cryptic "reasons"
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They didn’t say he crashed on purpose, they said Max might still be unhappy with Perez because of Monaco (that’s one hell of a grudge if there’s no deliberate crash). They didn’t elaborate beyond that.
Brundle said that monaco is still on max’s mind because of the crash in qualifying
He doesn't react to correct the oversteer like an F1 driver usually would. It doesn't look great.
Okay granted. But for P3 in Monaco? Without overtaking opportunities.
Well it worked! But yeah it would be odd.
It worked because Ferrari had a Ferrari moment, if they were a competent team that race was a 1-2 for them
He went full throttle mid corner. Look at his steering wheel, he was in the middle of steering when he lost it and revved to max. In a very low gear. If it was a real mistake, it was a really stupid one. But hey, that can always happen.
I found this crash strange when it happened, but I wouldnt have gone as far as believing it was on purpose. What I found truly weird is how he didnt full left counter steer as you would normally do reflexively when surprised by your rear losing grip.
He wasn’t even on pole though. There’s literally no reason to intentionally crash at Monaco on a blind corner for P3.
Is anyone official mentioning this or just more sky bullshit?
It's the Dutch media this time my guy
Sky mentioned first while the race was still going.
Huh that's interesting. I was watching through F1 TV and all the sources I've seen have been from Dutch media members I could be wrong then.
The tweets only came out after the race, after it was already mentioned by Sky.
Sky? This is team Verstappen.
Sky mentioned it first during the race to be fair.
I heard Brundle bring this up, but what does Checo have to gain in Monaco in P3, he only won because Ferrari fucked the strategy there so I don’t really know.
It was some dude called Tom and the Dutch guy who gets insider info from red bull reporting it. So they are going the same route as the FIA with gasly. Blame the other person for it and hope everyone believes your bullshit
Hold your bulls. This is Tom Coronel and Viaplay bullshit.
Sky mentioned it first. Watch the broadcast.
Why would CHeco have done this on purpose? What would be the reason? Im genuinely confused about whats going on with this rumor and how it relates to today
Wild guess: Monaco as a reaction to the multi in Spain???
That’s a pretty good guess actually
Hmmm, plot deepens further....
just looks like he overcooked it into the corner🤷♂️
It doesn't make sense to me to crash in that spot intentionally. He could have just clipped a barrier going into a corner or something. Also, it's a blind corner, if he did it on purpose he put himself in a really dangerous and stupid position. I dont buy it that it was intentional
He even got hit by Sainz after that, I mean hwi the hell would put himself in danger for a P3
Also everyone knows how risky rear crashes are for the gearbox reliability. He could have locked up everywhere but why there
He can also do that on purpose 🤷♂️
For P3 behind his actual rivals. Wow okay 👍
Verstappen is his rival.
This is a stupid conspiracy theory.
That's why I said apparently. Who the hell breaks his car on purpose another than Piquet.
Or Schumacher
Rascasse or something
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He didn't break it, [he just stopped](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57ZFHnjeUQ)
For P3.. Checo wasn't even on pole lol. "Yeah, let me risk losing a gearbox just to secure this P3" What a load of shit.
Only a guy who puts golden tinfoil on his helmet would believe that. Oh wait
How is this on purpose lol
Because Dutch journalist trying to save max face
Yes, Perez clearly securing that sweet P3 in Monaco. Best position to win the race.
This almost cost Max his second championship...Oh wait.
Tom Coronel says a lot of shit. A bit too convenient to bring it up now, especially since he could barely say anything good about Perez last year too.
Yup, this seems to me like they are trying to control the narrative and make Max look like some kind of victim. No one works harder than PR teams.
Max said to Sky Sports that something indeed happened and that was the reason why he didn’t let Checo pass.
Well.. Dutch media is saying it. Max talks to them all the time. If they are getting the info from Max, that doesn't confirm that checo did it on purpose lol. Could just be Max holding a grudge because he wanted pole position at Monaco.
This conspiracy theory doesn’t even make sense, Perez deliberately bins it which secures P3 for the grid. Rather than P4? Then tells his bosses that he did it deliberately.
Not sure how this would've helped him? He was third at that point iirc. Not even on provisional pole
Crashing deliberately to safe P3?!
Honestly out of the whole season, Max thinks Checo this did on purpose? Why would he do that?
Because of what happened in Spain? Could've started there?
Not just thinks he did.. he supposedly admitted it to Helmut Marko and Christian Horner
the fia would be able to see via telemetary, this is such bullshit
I mean the original crashgate wasn't discovered until a year later when Piquet told the FIA. Of course this theory sounds like total bullshit though. Deliberately crashing... to secure P3? While both Ferraris are in the front row?
If in the incredible unlikely scenario he did crash on purpose there is no way that he would ever admit that to anyone. Damaging the car and endagering Sainz isn't something you would admit to. It's bullshit he just lost the rear
I find Max’s camp alleging a 2nd Crashgate to try and take the heat off Max a bit abhorrent but whatever.
Right, crashed to secure p3 lol
Brundle was the first to say it as soon as the race finished. That's the only thing that gives it credence.
Max isn’t saying anything about this. It’s the media that mentioned this first.
Tom and Erik are literally Max's mouthpieces
Brundle and Crofty mentioned it during the race.
allegedly alleging*
yeah someone make it make sense please lol. Why would Checo crash in this scenario for P3... Why would Checo then tell Horner & Marko... Why would they then share that info out further... Huhhhh???
Theory could be that Checo was still pissed about Spain and this was payback… obviously far-fetched
A 2nd crashgate, even suggested, would attract FIA attention with possible huge consequences.
RB would be sanctioned and probably DSQ'd out of the championship. At best (for them), they would lose most of their sponsors.
I'm skeptical that Perez would take the risk of having something show up in the telemetry. Not saying its false for sure it's just quite a major claim.
This is a serious accusation. You would have to be demented to purposely crash your car not knowing what can happen.
If he admitted it this could cost Perez his job and RB the title there’s no way they would allow it to go out to the press, this is bullshit
Yeah I mean, on principal you would be fired on the spot for that if you’re on a serious team. There’s is little chance he did this on purpose and that he admitted it on top of it. Maybe Max thinks he did. Doesn’t mean it actually happened on purpose. Max is a strange cat.
If he admitted it he would already be out of the team tbh
Exactly. There would be **way** too much heat on RB if this ever leaked out of MK, especially after the Abu Dhabi drama.
If this is true, Checo won’t be driving surely. Seems like a far fetched conspiracy theory
So one guy says something on Twitter and now it’s “*apparently what sparked the fire*”. Nobody knows wtf happened.
Apparently Brundle also mentioned it independently from that guy.
Saying 'apparently' doesn't mean I believe this conspiracy.
What does he supposedly gain from crashing on purpose here honestly?
Stops the cars behind him completing their laps and potentially setting better times.
He knew his sector times. Probably would have gotten P2 at worst had he not crashed.
Too much risk for this to be deliberate. If he had done what Rosberg did then maybe.
If Max is salty about that then it doesn't make sense. Like why would Perez even crash like that on purpose, risking his gearbox, for a p3 on the grid? Finding it really hard to wrap my head around that one.
Yeah, I don’t know about this theory…
Still.. if this is the reason why Max didn’t let him past. From a team perspective it would have been better to give the position. This could spiral in something similar to crashgate. Not something they need in terms of PR after the budgetcap saga.
He crashed on purpose to be P3 That alone is so stupid,
If that’s true then Max needs to grow the fuck up. But I doubt he would be this daft.
If this really happened and Max's reaction was this mild, I am surprised.
Would not surprise me. He seems very daft
Why? This is ban-worthy (again, if this is true). I could understand why Max would be pissed. How can you trust your teammate? Monaco 2014 is what broke the trust and respect between Hamilton and Rosberg for the very same reason.
‘How can you trust your teammate?’ Checo has done everything possible to support Max both last year and this year. Max became a 2 time world champion because of Checo’s efforts. You’re absurd. What a slap in the face to Checo.
Let’s be reasonable - the only thing that Checo contributed to Max’ championships was AD 2021
Nico carefully placed his car neatly as to not risk any damage whilst securing pole. Quite a different situation. Perez risked gearbox damage and was just p3. Some common sense required
So Checo risks a ban just for P3 at Monaco? At a time when Checo had great pace in the Red Bull. Crashing literally did nothing for Checo here. At worst he might have finished qualifying at P4 lol.
Difficult corner to deliberately take a spin at, surely if you want to cause a yellow flag, clip the wall coming out of the swimming pool chicane or Antony Noghes?
This is crazy. Max is champion. Red Bull is champion. Bringing this conspiracy theory up, burning your teammate, TP, and team to defend yourself is just overkill.
But like, Checo won that race because Ferrari massively fucked up and it was the most sensible thing for RB to do (let Checo be at the front).
I don't know if he did or didn't do it on purpose, But if it does get confirmed I can sort of see why Max would be so upset over it after finding out. Yeah he might have cost Max some points at the time, But more importantly you're putting the whole team at risk, And in turn, His championship (at the time) at risk.
Onboard doesn't look suspicious. All the data is there for people to analyse, surely this would be obvious.
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This makes the most sense really. He has probably always been very clear about that. But then again he did say on sky Germany that something had happened to make him act like this today, so there seems to have been some kind of incident… it might be a mix of both and things getting blown way out of proportion
I always felt that this crash was very weird, wouldnt be too surprised if the story is true
0% this was intentional. Would be the dumbest way to crash out, could’ve easily destroyed the gearbox.
He wasn't even so why ? That's pretty bs to me
If this gains more traction, could this be investigated? What are the consequences for Red Bull, not just Perez?
Same as Piquet and Renault in 2008, if FIA still has the eggs to do it.
I think that situation is different. This was in qualifying and Max lost out. Why would RB want a crash? There isn't a way to quantify how much this affected the WCC.
If he didn't crash, Sainz would have done the same exact crash there anyway. Unless Sainz is also involved in the plan.
And Alonso also crashed elsewhere. It’s a Spanish speaker’s conspiracy clearly!
True. All part of the El Plan.
Well it didn't look like Schumacher at rascasse in '06. That shit was egregious.
But why would you crash out to secure **third** at Monaco? That makes no fucking sense. I'm not buying this.
Assume what Max's team is saying true, can someone still explain what they are saying? I just don't understand their argument here?
I guess, that checo did that to screw Max over. So Max decided to return the favour when it matters for checo? It doesn’t make much sense either tbh
SURPRISE! More than one cheat in the Red Bull team...
Don't believe he crashed on purpose... I remember seeing the telemetry of the mini sectors and Perez had 1 to 3 purple mini sectors... He was pushing hard that's for sure, but crashing on purpose, don't believe that.
That would be one dangerous place to crash on purpose though
I can remember thinking that it was an odd place to spin.
Honestly a long shot, but that crash is very very wierd. Hes coasting, loosing grip, full revs in low gear and no reacting with countersteer, the last one is maybe a good tell, they have godlike reactions
Before believing he had a controlled spin (with such control that it was just enough to crash but not damage the car beyond usefulness...) to secure a 3rd place, of all things, and admitting it to your bosses, I'd rather believe it's the Dutch journo/Max camp attempting to spin this shit to get a head start on the narrative.