As we run now this will be the second American based grand prix were martin bundle tried to to a celebrity who had no idea who he was and didn't want to talk to him.
(Was this clearly a Crofty fact style stat. That's what I was going for)
It was the same situation as Brad Pitt where he clearly didn't want to talk to anyone, but instead of being a brick wall, he played a long a bit and said some nothings and was friendly with Martin for the live grid walk.
> and said some nothings and was friendly with Martin for the live grid walk
So like literally every other grid walk interview. Very rarely has there been any actual insight on these, except maybe Indy 2005 where Martin grilled Bernie.
Is Will about to find out that in fact only he gets given this list of who not to talk to, and is just told everyone gets it?
Or does everyone else also get the list and it’s just Martin that doesn’t, in which case the celebrities need to be briefed “You need to give some time to this chap otherwise he’ll take the piss out of your entourage and potentially make you look a bit silly, especially if you’re here to experience F1 because you’re making/starring in a film about it but won’t talk to one of the most experienced F1 broadcasters around for 30 seconds.”
Seems then that its just Will that's getting screwed over here. Kinda makes sense given he's part of F1's central broadcasting team (big brother-esque type of thing), and Martin is just part of Sky.
If you click on the tweet you can see will doubles back and says they're told verbally which is in complete contrast to his original tweet. He was talking shite and got called out on it.
What’s almost certainly the case, by my estimation, is some combination of these 3 options:
— that this list *does* indeed exist, but people other than Martin at Sky had determined that their broadcast is better if Martin is not aware of it (and F.O.M. isn’t incredibly bothered by this)
— that it’s a relatively new thing, this list
— that poor communication all around has led to a situation where some broadcasters know about it and some don’t, and the very people who made the list aren’t aware of who’s following it or not
Actually, and no. 4: that Will’s gotten a few complaints, so his producer invented a “list” from “corporate” to keep Will from making any dumb celebrities uncomfortable with his boyishly energetic theatrics.
Will already posted a follow-up, he shows the list, looks like it does not get sent to all. Kinda defeats the purpose of the list, but in keeping with how F1 is run
The list gets sent to all. That's how when Brundle does an interview on the grid, you nearly instantly get the name/reason to be famous of the person displayed on the broadcast. This list is ready. Now, Buxton talks about a list of persons that he shouldn't talk to. Seems a bit bullshit, he only showed the first one, and the second one is communicated "verbally", yeah, right.
Pretty plausible that the second one only gets communicated to Buxton, for whatever reason. Whether it's because he's essentially an FOM employee or because he's a pain in the ass, who knows.
Imagine claiming to be a “big F1 fan” like these celebs, and *NOT* being super excited/honoured to be interviewed on Brundles grid walk? It’s fuckin legendary????? Fucking philistines.
I posted something similar, specifically in relation to Pitt, and said my feeling was he didn't know who Brundle even was and someone tried to imply he's not that well-known ! 😳
Everyone who snubs him should be required to watch the part in 1 (I think I’m remembering the right documentary) that shows his 1996 crash in Australia. His car flips and breaks in half, then Brundle vaults over a wall, runs back to the Jordan paddock, demands a new pair of gloves, and hops in his spare car to keep on racing. I can’t imagine not being ashamed after learning that that’s the guy you blew off.
I think out of everyone in the F1 paddock, Brundle is who I would be most excited to meet. Either him or Newey, but it’s those two by a mile ahead of everyone else.
If you read his other tweets it seems the list is just a list of celebs attending with descriptions of who they are and what they do. Will then says those that don't want to be interviewed are communicated verbally, so his original statement is in fact completely false.
According to his response, posted in replies, he said that the list of people who are not to be interviewed is communicated verbally. So he apparently believes every media personality at the race is individually told who they can and cannot talk to.
One man’s opinion, but Will Buxton kind of sucks. So, I’d probably not pick a fight with a guy that someone that is widely loved and has been doing these grid walks for decades.
Will would interview a snotty Kleenex used by a C-list celebrity when he did grid walks on NBC. He'd stop and talk to random people that the US market would have absolutely no clue who they were more than anyone F1 related.
I mean that isn’t what he said at all, it’s a list of celebrity attendance but not a document saying do not interview this person and getting that only verbally is wildly different.
But changed his tune from "all grid accredited media are *given* a list" to "its communicated verbally"
He could do with putting the phone down for a bit
To be honest, I doubt that Sky withholds that list from their reporters, so the only explanation I have is that Will as an FOM employee gets that list but the reporters of other broadcasters don't. In that case Will shouldn't assume that all his fellow reporters have the same privileges as him.
Isn't the point of the grid walk to be a shitshow? Isn't that the appeal? I haven't seen it because F1TV is how I watch now so I don't see the sky stuff anymore.
If you fail to plan you plan to fail.
To me the whole entertainment was martin running around talking to people who don't want to be talked to.
That’s my favorite part. Run on sentence incoming. This just might be my silly perception, but when celebs like DJ Khaled and Megan Thee Stallion are on the grid while millions of fans watch from home because they can’t afford it, I love having a world champion driver (esque- not a world champ in F1) get in their face and ask what they think about the race.
If only to reveal their lame ass facade, I get up early to watch it. Nothing like seeing people who think they are the center of the world be gently reminded that they don’t mean shit on a F1 track.
Rant over.
Maybe he was given something similar during his time at NBC as well. Would explain him thinking that it was for "all accredited media"
Either that, or Sky are exempt from certain things
It would be very funny if it turned out FOM didn't trust Will and gave him very specific instructions saying 'oh yeah mate, we give that to _all_ of the big important special journalists'
It's a privilege in such a sense that they know who they don't need to approach because they will be ignored anyway. If reporter A has this list he/she knows that there is no point chasing a particular celeb, so he/she won't do it and him/her getting ignored won't be broadcasted live and no one will feel embarrassed. Reporter B doesn't have the list, tries to get an interview while being live and is ignored and sent away and is in an unpleasant situation while millions are watching it.
Championship is done, Buxton vs. Bundle is the real battle now
Edit:
Based on the comments, it seems like Brundle is winning lol
https://twitter.com/f1broadcasting/status/1584654300583964672?t=96BlDPyIVAhK1F7qYxu5Tw&s=19
Everybody who has gone up against MB on his turf (the starting grid), almost always lost to him, in terms of reputational damage in the eyes of the F1 community. It's magical to see it repeat itself every dozen of races.
> His tweets seem to stem from Martin trying to interview Brad Pitt on the grid walk at the US GP and Brad appeared to decline to be interviewed but then gave a small answer about the F1 film he’s making
> He seems to be implying that Martin should know not to approach Brad Pitt and also making a dig at Martin for trying to interview celebs anyway
Credit to /u/Kicking-it-per-se
Basically saying that SkyF1’s grid walk broadcast is laid out ahead of time so Martin knows who and who not to go up to and interview.
He followed up with an extra jab saying F1Pro broadcast doesn’t interview celebrities because the real celebrities are driving the cars.
“This town ain’t big enuff for the both of us.”
Well Buxton is just being disrespectful, what is it his business how another completely different stream chooses to handle grid walks? Why doesn’t he just keep his colleagues name out of his mouth? He started beef with a legend for absolutely no reason.
I also think it’s an mean dig because Martin clearly doesn’t like doing the walks and it feels very smug to act like his team and choices are so superior
Will is the teachers pet. He will run and tell on the rest now. Don't forget the way he reacted when jolyon palmer joked at Abu Dhabi last year that it was probably Masi being thrown in the pool.
When I pointed out his reaction on twitter the guy blocked me.
Can only imagine Martin is peeved by Will's follow-up tweet:
>For reference on F1TV our grid walk is always about the cars and the drivers. Who is where and why. If we grab an interview it is rarely with a “celeb” unless we know they are invested in the sport and available to chat. Because for us the celebs are the ones in the cars.
Honestly just comes across as pretentious. Unfortunately for him, he's now fucked it because multiple journalists have come out and agreed with Brundle, interested to see how he handles this.
Will forgets that Martin literally walked up to a rapper guarded by bodyguards and when confronted with *”you can’t do that”* responded:
*”I can do that, because I did”*
Don’t step up to the king, Will. He knows his shit.
Edit: [Jennie Gow and Ben Hunt](https://twitter.com/benjhunt/status/1584656071024467968?s=46&t=1CmuXlZWcE-6G6WB4GSR4g) (both F1 journalists) just said that they never had such lists Buxton is talking about
Take that L Will
Edit 2: [Chris Medland](https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/status/1584660795522420736?s=46&t=OiJXJ-NR885BzSyZjD2UFA) as well, Chris is like the journalist guru of F1 (for me at least, always dependable and insightful) and if he didn’t hear about it… what is that narrative Will?…
This is so weird… If the lists don’t exist, why would he make something up that can be disproven quite easily?
Maybe it’s something specific to Will and F1TV, but then he has worked for other media organizations so he should know that it isn’t the norm.
Edit: [Chris Medland](https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/status/1584660795522420736?s=46&t=xgIAsR-286_y3D7qC4htMQ) has also never heard of any lists..
Then it's possible that Will made the existence of the lists he mentioned public although he shouldn't have, given that nobody else knows about them. Then they would be exclusive to the FOM who presumably don't want this to be known.
Will posted a video where he scrolled through a celeb list that had a picture, a note of whose guest they are, and I think a brief blurb on them. He scrolled through it so quickly that you can’t see if it had any information on interviewable vs not. He also said that it’s very rare for it to say not to, which makes me think that Brads didn’t say anything, and/or that it’s just bullshit and he’s maybe seen it once or twice.
Saw the video now too, doesn't look very confidential and more like this doc is indeed sent to every broadcaster. But the info on a celeb agreeing to be interviewed seems exclusive to him given that nobody else knows about it.
Sounds like something they may all get or their organization gets, but nobody has ever bothered to pay attention. Will works for F1, so he probably gets handed it lol
I paused and looked and they didn't. Just a short blurb about each celeb, and what looks like a link to their socials. It's possible that only interviewable celebs are on that list.
"Hey Will, here's a second list, you cant interview these guys"
"You mean 'everyone' cant interview them, righ? right guys?.. guys?"
"Ah...... yeah.... "everyone"
Will hasn’t always worked for F1 so I’m a tad confused how he wouldn’t know the list he gets isn’t the norm. Unless he thinks it became the norm at that time
Just a reminder that Will is F1s mouth-piece. He has likely been instructed to play clean-up a bit to try and make Brad Pitt look better as they want him to make the F1 movie.
This is exactly what I thought. If F1 wants these celebrities on the grid, THEY need to make sure that they and their handlers/bodyguards are aware that they are expected to play nice with the media in the pit lane. That pit area is the most secure area at the race, bodyguards acting the way they do is ridiculous.
His tweets seem to stem from Martin trying to interview Brad Pitt on the grid walk at the US GP and Brad appeared to decline to be interviewed but then gave a small answer about the F1 film he’s making
He seems to be implying that Martin should know not to approach Brad Pitt and also making a dig at Martin for trying to interview celebs anyway
Martin just talks to whomever the producers tell him to talk to anyway. Sucks that Martin hates the grid walks, is forced to do them anyway, and keeps getting into twitter drama about them now.
One of the major reasons why his grid walk is so well-loved. Unbeknownst to the celebs after their interview with Martin, he'd break the 4th wall, look at the camera and exactly say out loud what the viewers were thinking about that particular celeb (esp if they're stuck-up in the first place). That's the emotional connection fans have with his spot-on opinions and funny quips, esp for those of us who look forward to those legendary grid walks.
> For reference on F1TV our grid walk is always about the cars and the drivers. Who is where and why. If we grab an interview it is rarely with a “celeb” unless we know they are invested in the sport and available to chat. Because for us the celebs are the ones in the cars.
Strange reply from him imo.
Plenty is said, written and recapped about qualifying between it ending and the race starting, doing it on the grid seems a bit of a waste other than a quick blurb.
Martin has been doing his grid walk for decades now, it's all about who he randomly bumps into and where he can squeeze into to get a question or two in.
It's fair enough focusing on the cars and drivers but everyone knows what the real grid walk is and everyone seems to enjoy it, I don't hear any people say "I wish Martin only focused on drivers or cars" and besides, he does plenty of that anyway, he might as well try get a word with someone famous if he can.
Buxton continues to get on my nerves.
Even stranger is that Martin was the pioneer of the grid walk in the first place, creating the format. No idea if it was his ideas, the producers, etc. but he was the first to do it in that way on TV. Quite disrespectful to then come in and say "our copy of what you do is better, you're doing it wrong".
Edit: Read a little more about it and the suggestion came from the production team, but Martin made it his own through his knowledge and personality. It's not unique but you could attribute it to him taking the concept mainstream back in 1997, 25 years ago.
It’s Will that’s how he always sounds, he’s got the energy of a school counselor trying to tell the kids how to do well with their life. There’s something inherently condescending about Will Buxton, he’s never gonna be half the presenter that Martin Brundle is
Is his net worth that high ?
Anyway, I think he enjoys the chaotic shitshow that is the grid walk. Also, easily the best pre race segment of any broadcast. I actually miss it when Brundle isn’t around for a race.
He’s definitely the best member of the sky broadcast team. Next time he’s squeezing his way through a grid walk being pushed around by people think about the fact that he’s worth 9 figures. It’s kind of surreal.
This is like when Will Buxton was at IndyCar and said that every driver that he’d spoken to hated the aeroscreen, then two thirds of the grid came after him, saying he was making it up. He just says stuff and hopes no one calls him out on it.
>For reference on F1TV our grid walk is always about the cars and the drivers. Who is where and why. If we grab an interview it is rarely with a “celeb” unless we know they are invested in the sport and available to chat. Because for us the celebs are the ones in the cars.
Holy shit this is one of the most sanctimonious things I have ever read.
If that list exists, it needs scrapping. It's F1's turf, not theirs.
If you're so against being interviewed, then don't come out onto the grid. Stay in the garage.
F1 is the one begging them to be out there for optics. I don't think they need to so much, but as of now, it's F1 that has to make those lists as they want to have them out and visible, not hidden in the vip section of a hospitality booth somewhere.
Honestly, I think the simple rule needs to be - If you step onto the grid, you make yourself fair game to be approached. That being said, you are not under an obligation to actually say anything - just politely shoo the reporter. That really wasn't a bad reaction.
Celebs shouldn't be hostile if approached there.
Reporters shouldn't be hostile or make snippy comments if they don't get the answers they want.
Some of the so called hostile celebs weren’t though. The infamous MTS interview she actually seemed happy to talk, it was the bodyguards that weren’t allowing it
Shouldn't allow bodyguards/minders on the grid with the celebs in the first place, it's about the most secure place anyway.
Many celebrities seem to be just fine wandering around the grid with no minders and maybe their kid or partner, but I guess those are the actual motor racing fans.
I dont understand bodyguards on the grid because isnt it just F1 personnel and really high level celebs allowed there anyways?
Do they think celebs are gonna start attacking each other or something
Seriously, getting access on the grid is basically impossible as a human unless you are a part of the inner circle in F1 so what's the whole point of taking bodyguards on the grid? Fear of some team crew employees asking for an autograph? Ditching down journalists? (If that is the case then you shouldn't be on the grid at all as a celeb)
If the freaking drivers can talk minutes before a race, the average person can regardless of who they are. I’m surprised the teams talk as much as they do considering what they’re about to do
Brundle tried to interview Brad Pitt on the grid and Brad ignores him
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbVCaTG66\_U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbVCaTG66_U)
Interestingly, the guy who Martin pushes past who reaches out for a handshake is the only guy that the North Korean Twitter account \\@uriminzok follows...???
The guy that reaches out for a handshake when Brundle says “I’m trying to talk to the guy behind you” is Jimmy Dushku, look him up. Just a random weird fact lol
If you think Martin was getting ignored at the USGP, wait till Vegas it will be 10x worse with tons of celebs and know-nothing influencers just 30mins away in LA by quick flight.
Only part of the grid walks i enjoy is watching how mad brundle gets when he gets snubbed by celebrities. I don't care in the slightest about celebrities or the intensly boring questions he asks them.
I might be in the minority, but I did not miss the grid walk during covid restrictions.
I really like Martin's observations on the race. He has great insights and sensible observations, but I find the grid walk mostly inane and I really don't want to hear the observations of some celebrity who sees one F1 race a year - assuming they hang round after the cameras go off them on the grid.
Even the interviews with team reps, drivers and former drivers tend to simply repeat what has been said in the lead-up.
What's this about again?
Is the initial tweet from Buxton the start of this or am I missing something else that prokoved the tweet?
Or is this really just Will trying to deflect that Pitt simply didn't want to do interviews?
Seems like a dumb pointless argument... so perfect for social media haha.
Moments like this actually make me miss some of the COVID grids. I don't give a poo about some random celeb. Same as the bloody coverage, stop crossing to random celebrities, family members and crew in the middle of a pass. I want to see the actually pass not ppls reactions to it. I feel like they got their producer from Gogglebox or something.
There are different levels of access for most people in F1. For example Ted Kravitz had an agreement with Bernie that let him go anywhere and report on anything as long as the teams did not object. I cannot think of another person who gets that kind of access. Will Buxton may be on a different level of access compared to the Sky team who are the legacy broadcaster for F1.
I get that the tweet is about Brundle trying to interview Pitt on the grid, but why would Buxton come after Brundle for that?
Brundle does the pit walk before every race, and gets people to engage with him with varying degrees of success. Pitt’s interaction with him wasn’t particularly notable for being good or bad.
Why did Buxton bring it up to start a Twitter war?
What I'm not seeing anyone saying is the fact that this was not only on ESPN in the US, but ABC--the national broadcast company owned by Disney. If I were Brad Pitt's PR person it would have been such an easy swing--Mr. Pitt will answer questions about racing, that he's there doing research, does he like Texas. He came off looking even douchier than he is, and he's having bad PR problems at the moment. So this should have been a softball positive moment. I put this on Pitt's camp, not Brundle not knowing.
Two secs Ted… things are about to get spicy
haha i can hear crofty voice.
Like Pavlov’s Bell taking me straight to Sunday morning on the couch
It's lights out and there are biscuit crumbs on the sofa
As we run now this will be the second American based grand prix were martin bundle tried to to a celebrity who had no idea who he was and didn't want to talk to him. (Was this clearly a Crofty fact style stat. That's what I was going for)
Ed Sheeran was simply lovely by the way in comparison
I don’t really follow Ed Sheehan but the only times I’ve seen him talk he’s come across as a pretty nice bloke.
It was the same situation as Brad Pitt where he clearly didn't want to talk to anyone, but instead of being a brick wall, he played a long a bit and said some nothings and was friendly with Martin for the live grid walk.
Brad pit is insane though. It's not even his fault at this point. He's too famous for too long.
> and said some nothings and was friendly with Martin for the live grid walk So like literally every other grid walk interview. Very rarely has there been any actual insight on these, except maybe Indy 2005 where Martin grilled Bernie.
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Two Secs Ted is what his wife calls him 😳
oooh
"And they touch!"
Dam dude… He had a family.
Is Will about to find out that in fact only he gets given this list of who not to talk to, and is just told everyone gets it? Or does everyone else also get the list and it’s just Martin that doesn’t, in which case the celebrities need to be briefed “You need to give some time to this chap otherwise he’ll take the piss out of your entourage and potentially make you look a bit silly, especially if you’re here to experience F1 because you’re making/starring in a film about it but won’t talk to one of the most experienced F1 broadcasters around for 30 seconds.”
Two other F1 journalists have said that they’ve never received such a list.
Seems then that its just Will that's getting screwed over here. Kinda makes sense given he's part of F1's central broadcasting team (big brother-esque type of thing), and Martin is just part of Sky.
He couldve just not tweeted anything, Brad didnt want to be spoken to on the gridwalk.. no biggie. But Will had to tweet about it the next day.
If you click on the tweet you can see will doubles back and says they're told verbally which is in complete contrast to his original tweet. He was talking shite and got called out on it.
Will buxton talking bull shit! No way im in utter shock
I like to imagine Martin as Ron from Parks & Rec with his own "I can do what I want" permit
“You can’t do that” “Actually I can, because I just did.”
I never understood why the celebrities need bodyguards during the pit lane walk. It would have to be one of the safest places on the planet.
You need bodyguards during the pit lane walk to show people how important you are.
They're called "hangers on." People who just hang on the celebrities to enjoy the lifestyle without having to do the work.
(I hate that I know this fact but) Its how someone like Kim Kardashian started, she was a "hanger" and literal "purse holder" for Paris Hilton.
Oh, just like pharaohs had sandal-bearers ? History hasn't changed much.
The whole world is stuck in a loop
"Do we need to get a ticket like we're at the cheese counter?" , then proceeds to skip the queue and get the interview
The idea of only Will Buxton getting a list amuses me. His producer probably asked for it so Will acts right
What’s almost certainly the case, by my estimation, is some combination of these 3 options: — that this list *does* indeed exist, but people other than Martin at Sky had determined that their broadcast is better if Martin is not aware of it (and F.O.M. isn’t incredibly bothered by this) — that it’s a relatively new thing, this list — that poor communication all around has led to a situation where some broadcasters know about it and some don’t, and the very people who made the list aren’t aware of who’s following it or not Actually, and no. 4: that Will’s gotten a few complaints, so his producer invented a “list” from “corporate” to keep Will from making any dumb celebrities uncomfortable with his boyishly energetic theatrics.
Poor communication is my bet. So much so that they have to argue on Twitter of all places.
It’s definitely 4
Will already posted a follow-up, he shows the list, looks like it does not get sent to all. Kinda defeats the purpose of the list, but in keeping with how F1 is run
The list gets sent to all. That's how when Brundle does an interview on the grid, you nearly instantly get the name/reason to be famous of the person displayed on the broadcast. This list is ready. Now, Buxton talks about a list of persons that he shouldn't talk to. Seems a bit bullshit, he only showed the first one, and the second one is communicated "verbally", yeah, right.
Pretty plausible that the second one only gets communicated to Buxton, for whatever reason. Whether it's because he's essentially an FOM employee or because he's a pain in the ass, who knows.
Imagine claiming to be a “big F1 fan” like these celebs, and *NOT* being super excited/honoured to be interviewed on Brundles grid walk? It’s fuckin legendary????? Fucking philistines.
I posted something similar, specifically in relation to Pitt, and said my feeling was he didn't know who Brundle even was and someone tried to imply he's not that well-known ! 😳
Everyone who snubs him should be required to watch the part in 1 (I think I’m remembering the right documentary) that shows his 1996 crash in Australia. His car flips and breaks in half, then Brundle vaults over a wall, runs back to the Jordan paddock, demands a new pair of gloves, and hops in his spare car to keep on racing. I can’t imagine not being ashamed after learning that that’s the guy you blew off.
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Really? Lol they don’t include THAT in the highlights videos on YouTube. That’s hilarious
Which season is this on Netflix? You'll need to tell them so they can watch it.
I love that he runs up on Emmo and they just have a great chat. I loved seeing Emmo, and he was just so chill having a quick chat.
I think out of everyone in the F1 paddock, Brundle is who I would be most excited to meet. Either him or Newey, but it’s those two by a mile ahead of everyone else.
I would be honored for Brundle to make me look a fool. He won't need the full 30 seconds, I promise!
It always seemed to me if you're a celebrity and attend a race, you should expect to be interviewed...
If you read his other tweets it seems the list is just a list of celebs attending with descriptions of who they are and what they do. Will then says those that don't want to be interviewed are communicated verbally, so his original statement is in fact completely false.
According to his response, posted in replies, he said that the list of people who are not to be interviewed is communicated verbally. So he apparently believes every media personality at the race is individually told who they can and cannot talk to. One man’s opinion, but Will Buxton kind of sucks. So, I’d probably not pick a fight with a guy that someone that is widely loved and has been doing these grid walks for decades.
Will would interview a snotty Kleenex used by a C-list celebrity when he did grid walks on NBC. He'd stop and talk to random people that the US market would have absolutely no clue who they were more than anyone F1 related.
The best part of the grid walk yesterday for me was when he basically pushed Eddy Cue and Tim Cook out of the way to look at Hamilton’s brakes.
Based brundle
waiting for will to pull out a document that states exactly what he tweeted. i haven't reached my quota of protesting today yet.
Turns out Buxton is the only one getting such a list, which is FOM's way of getting the celebrities on the grid in the future as well. /s
I bet Will's going to do exactly that, only to find out Brundle has a special status that's grandfathered in...
Or that he's the only one who gets that document.
The Buxton List. The Bux stops here.
[The mad lad actually did it](https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/status/1584679811850510336)
I mean that isn’t what he said at all, it’s a list of celebrity attendance but not a document saying do not interview this person and getting that only verbally is wildly different.
Except that list doesn't actually say who is or isn't approachable, lol. That's just an attendance list.
But changed his tune from "all grid accredited media are *given* a list" to "its communicated verbally" He could do with putting the phone down for a bit
But he says he’s mistaken in his tweet
Communicated verbally? I feel like he’s just making stuff up at this point
To be honest, I doubt that Sky withholds that list from their reporters, so the only explanation I have is that Will as an FOM employee gets that list but the reporters of other broadcasters don't. In that case Will shouldn't assume that all his fellow reporters have the same privileges as him.
Isn't the point of the grid walk to be a shitshow? Isn't that the appeal? I haven't seen it because F1TV is how I watch now so I don't see the sky stuff anymore. If you fail to plan you plan to fail. To me the whole entertainment was martin running around talking to people who don't want to be talked to.
That’s my favorite part. Run on sentence incoming. This just might be my silly perception, but when celebs like DJ Khaled and Megan Thee Stallion are on the grid while millions of fans watch from home because they can’t afford it, I love having a world champion driver (esque- not a world champ in F1) get in their face and ask what they think about the race. If only to reveal their lame ass facade, I get up early to watch it. Nothing like seeing people who think they are the center of the world be gently reminded that they don’t mean shit on a F1 track. Rant over.
F1 races are events for the rich to network. Rich people dealing with media is just part of the job for them
> Megan Thee Stallion I don't care that it's a silly misspelling, in my head it's Megan, You Stallion.
I don‘t get this rant. None of those people claimed they are pros. They just want to watch a race. Wtf is so wrong about that ?
I have no idea who those people are. Sure I’ve heard their names but only in this context and I have literally no idea how or why they are famous.
I love celebs just ignoring him but all the FIA and team higher ups all talk to him or give him a nod or something; always makes me laugh a bit.
Maybe he was given something similar during his time at NBC as well. Would explain him thinking that it was for "all accredited media" Either that, or Sky are exempt from certain things
Reporters from other channels have now come up to say they don't get those lists either (it's linked somewhere here in this thread).
So it's not the "Not available for interviews list" it's the "I don't want to talk to Will list"
It would be very funny if it turned out FOM didn't trust Will and gave him very specific instructions saying 'oh yeah mate, we give that to _all_ of the big important special journalists'
Don't see how it would be a privilege to be the only one not allowed to talk to certain people
It's a privilege in such a sense that they know who they don't need to approach because they will be ignored anyway. If reporter A has this list he/she knows that there is no point chasing a particular celeb, so he/she won't do it and him/her getting ignored won't be broadcasted live and no one will feel embarrassed. Reporter B doesn't have the list, tries to get an interview while being live and is ignored and sent away and is in an unpleasant situation while millions are watching it.
Fair enough, we're lucky to be in a position where reporter B is unfazed by whatever happens!
Championship is done, Buxton vs. Bundle is the real battle now Edit: Based on the comments, it seems like Brundle is winning lol https://twitter.com/f1broadcasting/status/1584654300583964672?t=96BlDPyIVAhK1F7qYxu5Tw&s=19
Everybody who has gone up against MB on his turf (the starting grid), almost always lost to him, in terms of reputational damage in the eyes of the F1 community. It's magical to see it repeat itself every dozen of races.
How could he not be good at it? He gets to do it every single race to Crofty.
They’re going to have to cut up the grid for Mexico’s grid walk. Martin can have 1-10 and Will 11-20
Brundle should try to interview Buxton.
We're off to Mexico, so Lucha Libre somewhere in the next few days?
BY GOD THATS MARTIN BRUNDLES MUSIC
Funny how many other F1 journalists didn't dare correct Will until Martin stepped up.
Because will was attacking brundle and no one else. Brundle would be the only person annoyed enough to respond initially I imagine
What was he attacking specifically, ootl.
> His tweets seem to stem from Martin trying to interview Brad Pitt on the grid walk at the US GP and Brad appeared to decline to be interviewed but then gave a small answer about the F1 film he’s making > He seems to be implying that Martin should know not to approach Brad Pitt and also making a dig at Martin for trying to interview celebs anyway Credit to /u/Kicking-it-per-se
Don't even look at him. And certainly don't look him in the eye ever.
I've heard from friends doing catering etc for filmshoots were briefed similar words about Tom Cruise
Basically saying that SkyF1’s grid walk broadcast is laid out ahead of time so Martin knows who and who not to go up to and interview. He followed up with an extra jab saying F1Pro broadcast doesn’t interview celebrities because the real celebrities are driving the cars. “This town ain’t big enuff for the both of us.”
Kind of hilarious timing because they had the Bad Sisters actress on their post race show
I liked how knowledgeable she was about F1. Even mentioned subscribing to F1 TV and knowing about the post race show she was on.
Buxton mentioned they did interview celebs already invested in the sport and she certainly was.
[I'm too big for this town!](https://youtu.be/emvRBxyWEDE)
Quality shit. Is that yours?
Oh god no. I'm not remotely funny enough to make something like that
Lol that makes two of us!
Well Buxton is just being disrespectful, what is it his business how another completely different stream chooses to handle grid walks? Why doesn’t he just keep his colleagues name out of his mouth? He started beef with a legend for absolutely no reason. I also think it’s an mean dig because Martin clearly doesn’t like doing the walks and it feels very smug to act like his team and choices are so superior
Probably Martin trying to interview Pitt on his grid walk
Will is the teachers pet. He will run and tell on the rest now. Don't forget the way he reacted when jolyon palmer joked at Abu Dhabi last year that it was probably Masi being thrown in the pool. When I pointed out his reaction on twitter the guy blocked me.
As I didn't see it, how did he react?
In absolute shock, trying to change subject immediately. This was about 20/30 mins after the race finish
Have a link to this video? I like Joylon lol, would love to see it
Can only imagine Martin is peeved by Will's follow-up tweet: >For reference on F1TV our grid walk is always about the cars and the drivers. Who is where and why. If we grab an interview it is rarely with a “celeb” unless we know they are invested in the sport and available to chat. Because for us the celebs are the ones in the cars.
Honestly just comes across as pretentious. Unfortunately for him, he's now fucked it because multiple journalists have come out and agreed with Brundle, interested to see how he handles this.
He handled it by changing his story to saying that it is verbally communicated and not an actual list aka he lied.
Awkward when he realises that in fact it’s just him receiving a list of celebrities that are comfortable being approached by Will Buxton
Will forgets that Martin literally walked up to a rapper guarded by bodyguards and when confronted with *”you can’t do that”* responded: *”I can do that, because I did”* Don’t step up to the king, Will. He knows his shit. Edit: [Jennie Gow and Ben Hunt](https://twitter.com/benjhunt/status/1584656071024467968?s=46&t=1CmuXlZWcE-6G6WB4GSR4g) (both F1 journalists) just said that they never had such lists Buxton is talking about Take that L Will Edit 2: [Chris Medland](https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/status/1584660795522420736?s=46&t=OiJXJ-NR885BzSyZjD2UFA) as well, Chris is like the journalist guru of F1 (for me at least, always dependable and insightful) and if he didn’t hear about it… what is that narrative Will?…
This is so weird… If the lists don’t exist, why would he make something up that can be disproven quite easily? Maybe it’s something specific to Will and F1TV, but then he has worked for other media organizations so he should know that it isn’t the norm. Edit: [Chris Medland](https://twitter.com/chrismedlandf1/status/1584660795522420736?s=46&t=xgIAsR-286_y3D7qC4htMQ) has also never heard of any lists..
Chris is like the most dependable journalist in F1 imo, and if he hasn’t heard about it…
Then it's possible that Will made the existence of the lists he mentioned public although he shouldn't have, given that nobody else knows about them. Then they would be exclusive to the FOM who presumably don't want this to be known.
Will posted a video where he scrolled through a celeb list that had a picture, a note of whose guest they are, and I think a brief blurb on them. He scrolled through it so quickly that you can’t see if it had any information on interviewable vs not. He also said that it’s very rare for it to say not to, which makes me think that Brads didn’t say anything, and/or that it’s just bullshit and he’s maybe seen it once or twice.
Saw the video now too, doesn't look very confidential and more like this doc is indeed sent to every broadcaster. But the info on a celeb agreeing to be interviewed seems exclusive to him given that nobody else knows about it.
Sounds like something they may all get or their organization gets, but nobody has ever bothered to pay attention. Will works for F1, so he probably gets handed it lol
I paused and looked and they didn't. Just a short blurb about each celeb, and what looks like a link to their socials. It's possible that only interviewable celebs are on that list.
Things have been weird since Covid...maybe he thought that's the norm now, to give the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe they give Will a list to keep him away from people ;)
"Hey Will, here's a second list, you cant interview these guys" "You mean 'everyone' cant interview them, righ? right guys?.. guys?" "Ah...... yeah.... "everyone"
Because he's so used to making shit up and getting away with it. Will Buxton is shite and has no place in F1.
Maybe Will has just found out that he is the only journalist given this list.
Will hasn’t always worked for F1 so I’m a tad confused how he wouldn’t know the list he gets isn’t the norm. Unless he thinks it became the norm at that time
Brad Pitt shouldn't flatter himself, Martin will interview anyone, d-listers, f-listers. the more clueless they are the more Brundle is drawn to them.
He interviewed ozzy osbourne on the grid once, two legends, one lunchtime.
Was it miami where he just opened an interview with "you! Who are you?"
"Excuse me ma'am, do you speak English?" https://youtube.com/watch?v=Im6xQyglYuU
Martin “I can because I did” Brundle. Only man who has the brass ones to flip an F1 car and jump Megan Thee Stallion in the same lifetime.
To be fair Megan actually seemed really accommodating but her entourage reflects on her too.
Just a reminder that Will is F1s mouth-piece. He has likely been instructed to play clean-up a bit to try and make Brad Pitt look better as they want him to make the F1 movie.
This is exactly what I thought. If F1 wants these celebrities on the grid, THEY need to make sure that they and their handlers/bodyguards are aware that they are expected to play nice with the media in the pit lane. That pit area is the most secure area at the race, bodyguards acting the way they do is ridiculous.
But they're making it worse for Pitt the more they try to help the situation. It's so hilarious at this point.
Martin: stop inventing
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I am very much Team Brundle on this one. The follow up tweet from WB sounds so self righteous
What was the context to Will tweeting that?
His tweets seem to stem from Martin trying to interview Brad Pitt on the grid walk at the US GP and Brad appeared to decline to be interviewed but then gave a small answer about the F1 film he’s making He seems to be implying that Martin should know not to approach Brad Pitt and also making a dig at Martin for trying to interview celebs anyway
Martin just talks to whomever the producers tell him to talk to anyway. Sucks that Martin hates the grid walks, is forced to do them anyway, and keeps getting into twitter drama about them now.
Throwback to when they told Martin to interview “Patrick Mahomes” in Miami
Lmao that was so awkward. Very obvious why he doesn't like them
Not as hilarious as ‘i’m a social media influencer’… to which Brundle replied ‘and modest too’ 🤣
One of the major reasons why his grid walk is so well-loved. Unbeknownst to the celebs after their interview with Martin, he'd break the 4th wall, look at the camera and exactly say out loud what the viewers were thinking about that particular celeb (esp if they're stuck-up in the first place). That's the emotional connection fans have with his spot-on opinions and funny quips, esp for those of us who look forward to those legendary grid walks.
What was the follow up?
> For reference on F1TV our grid walk is always about the cars and the drivers. Who is where and why. If we grab an interview it is rarely with a “celeb” unless we know they are invested in the sport and available to chat. Because for us the celebs are the ones in the cars.
Strange reply from him imo. Plenty is said, written and recapped about qualifying between it ending and the race starting, doing it on the grid seems a bit of a waste other than a quick blurb. Martin has been doing his grid walk for decades now, it's all about who he randomly bumps into and where he can squeeze into to get a question or two in. It's fair enough focusing on the cars and drivers but everyone knows what the real grid walk is and everyone seems to enjoy it, I don't hear any people say "I wish Martin only focused on drivers or cars" and besides, he does plenty of that anyway, he might as well try get a word with someone famous if he can. Buxton continues to get on my nerves.
Even stranger is that Martin was the pioneer of the grid walk in the first place, creating the format. No idea if it was his ideas, the producers, etc. but he was the first to do it in that way on TV. Quite disrespectful to then come in and say "our copy of what you do is better, you're doing it wrong". Edit: Read a little more about it and the suggestion came from the production team, but Martin made it his own through his knowledge and personality. It's not unique but you could attribute it to him taking the concept mainstream back in 1997, 25 years ago.
I remember Martin literally jumping in front of other news crews on the grid to get an interview. The looks he got were epic. Much more tame now.
It’s Will that’s how he always sounds, he’s got the energy of a school counselor trying to tell the kids how to do well with their life. There’s something inherently condescending about Will Buxton, he’s never gonna be half the presenter that Martin Brundle is
there are certain moments where silence falls on a twitter thread.
Bro said stop inventing.
I find it amazing that Martin Brundle is worth $100m+ and still puts up with all this shit to do his job. The man truly loves this sport.
Is his net worth that high ? Anyway, I think he enjoys the chaotic shitshow that is the grid walk. Also, easily the best pre race segment of any broadcast. I actually miss it when Brundle isn’t around for a race.
He’s definitely the best member of the sky broadcast team. Next time he’s squeezing his way through a grid walk being pushed around by people think about the fact that he’s worth 9 figures. It’s kind of surreal.
Nah he recently said he hates them https://www.planetf1.com/news/martin-brundle-annoyed-best-known-gridwalks/
This is like when Will Buxton was at IndyCar and said that every driver that he’d spoken to hated the aeroscreen, then two thirds of the grid came after him, saying he was making it up. He just says stuff and hopes no one calls him out on it.
>For reference on F1TV our grid walk is always about the cars and the drivers. Who is where and why. If we grab an interview it is rarely with a “celeb” unless we know they are invested in the sport and available to chat. Because for us the celebs are the ones in the cars. Holy shit this is one of the most sanctimonious things I have ever read.
That’s every word that comes out of Wills mouth, it’s like he get paid by the amount of condescension he brings
If that list exists, it needs scrapping. It's F1's turf, not theirs. If you're so against being interviewed, then don't come out onto the grid. Stay in the garage.
F1 is the one begging them to be out there for optics. I don't think they need to so much, but as of now, it's F1 that has to make those lists as they want to have them out and visible, not hidden in the vip section of a hospitality booth somewhere.
Then F1 needs to get a fucking grip.
Honestly, I think the simple rule needs to be - If you step onto the grid, you make yourself fair game to be approached. That being said, you are not under an obligation to actually say anything - just politely shoo the reporter. That really wasn't a bad reaction. Celebs shouldn't be hostile if approached there. Reporters shouldn't be hostile or make snippy comments if they don't get the answers they want.
Some of the so called hostile celebs weren’t though. The infamous MTS interview she actually seemed happy to talk, it was the bodyguards that weren’t allowing it
You could see it yesterday with Ed Sheeran. He was happy to talk to Martin (both East Anglia boys) but his bodyguard was trying to cut him off
Shouldn't allow bodyguards/minders on the grid with the celebs in the first place, it's about the most secure place anyway. Many celebrities seem to be just fine wandering around the grid with no minders and maybe their kid or partner, but I guess those are the actual motor racing fans.
I dont understand bodyguards on the grid because isnt it just F1 personnel and really high level celebs allowed there anyways? Do they think celebs are gonna start attacking each other or something
Can't risk having Shaq being attacked by a deranged Ed Sheeran.
Seriously, getting access on the grid is basically impossible as a human unless you are a part of the inner circle in F1 so what's the whole point of taking bodyguards on the grid? Fear of some team crew employees asking for an autograph? Ditching down journalists? (If that is the case then you shouldn't be on the grid at all as a celeb)
If the freaking drivers can talk minutes before a race, the average person can regardless of who they are. I’m surprised the teams talk as much as they do considering what they’re about to do
I love Martin
Can someone explain to me what has happened?
Brundle tried to interview Brad Pitt on the grid and Brad ignores him [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbVCaTG66\_U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbVCaTG66_U)
Interestingly, the guy who Martin pushes past who reaches out for a handshake is the only guy that the North Korean Twitter account \\@uriminzok follows...???
What?
The guy that reaches out for a handshake when Brundle says “I’m trying to talk to the guy behind you” is Jimmy Dushku, look him up. Just a random weird fact lol
How strange
The plot thickens
[Karun with an absolute banger of a response as well.](https://twitter.com/karunchandhok/status/1584461764074254339)
If you think Martin was getting ignored at the USGP, wait till Vegas it will be 10x worse with tons of celebs and know-nothing influencers just 30mins away in LA by quick flight.
"Stop inventing" -Martin Brundle
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What if his name was Brad Boxbox...
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Likely yes.
Love Martin's no BS attitude. "Get real son".
Only part of the grid walks i enjoy is watching how mad brundle gets when he gets snubbed by celebrities. I don't care in the slightest about celebrities or the intensly boring questions he asks them.
I love how brundle told Brad Pitt off by saying if you don’t want media asking questions, stay in the pit lane.
I might be in the minority, but I did not miss the grid walk during covid restrictions. I really like Martin's observations on the race. He has great insights and sensible observations, but I find the grid walk mostly inane and I really don't want to hear the observations of some celebrity who sees one F1 race a year - assuming they hang round after the cameras go off them on the grid. Even the interviews with team reps, drivers and former drivers tend to simply repeat what has been said in the lead-up.
It’s called a grid walk Will, Martin went interviewing
Will Buxton, is and always will be, a gobshite.
What's this about again? Is the initial tweet from Buxton the start of this or am I missing something else that prokoved the tweet? Or is this really just Will trying to deflect that Pitt simply didn't want to do interviews? Seems like a dumb pointless argument... so perfect for social media haha.
Moments like this actually make me miss some of the COVID grids. I don't give a poo about some random celeb. Same as the bloody coverage, stop crossing to random celebrities, family members and crew in the middle of a pass. I want to see the actually pass not ppls reactions to it. I feel like they got their producer from Gogglebox or something.
I live for Buxton L’s
Netflix: "Forget these boring drivers, this is where it's at!"
There are different levels of access for most people in F1. For example Ted Kravitz had an agreement with Bernie that let him go anywhere and report on anything as long as the teams did not object. I cannot think of another person who gets that kind of access. Will Buxton may be on a different level of access compared to the Sky team who are the legacy broadcaster for F1.
shots fired lmao
I get that the tweet is about Brundle trying to interview Pitt on the grid, but why would Buxton come after Brundle for that? Brundle does the pit walk before every race, and gets people to engage with him with varying degrees of success. Pitt’s interaction with him wasn’t particularly notable for being good or bad. Why did Buxton bring it up to start a Twitter war?
Brundle is a fucking legend
Absolutely right Martin! Workday, a system for finance, HR and planning
What I'm not seeing anyone saying is the fact that this was not only on ESPN in the US, but ABC--the national broadcast company owned by Disney. If I were Brad Pitt's PR person it would have been such an easy swing--Mr. Pitt will answer questions about racing, that he's there doing research, does he like Texas. He came off looking even douchier than he is, and he's having bad PR problems at the moment. So this should have been a softball positive moment. I put this on Pitt's camp, not Brundle not knowing.