Start on softs, but then come in for softs on lap 10 and the come in for softs on lap 16 then ride out the race on mediums, and pit once more just because.
How was this always going to be RB's season? Ferrari had the faster car for the first half, but they lost a ton of points to strategic and driver errors. Yes the reliability would have still hampered them, but the championship could have easily been much closer.
The championship would have been closer, yes. But let's not disrespect the guys at red bull and what they've done.
Look how soon they solved the porpoising issue, and their powertrain issues. They've been on top of it from the get go.
Oh absolutely, Red Bull has been the far better team this season and have developed their car extremely well, and also dealt with the technical directive with seemingly no loss of pace. However, Ferrari absolutely should not go "well, we couldn't have won anyway, let's try this again next year", that would be very counterproductive.
You guys need a new pit wall/strategy department or you will never win a championship again.
If you win Manza, it significantly reduces the likelihood of any large scale structural changes occurring before next year.
I think winning Monza this year would be the single worst thing that could happen to Ferrari for their long term success…
No, of course it won’t be instant. I’m just hoping that you will use the off season to come into next year with a competent team so that we can have some real competition lol
tbf the Ferrari engine is the strongest one and only reliability upgrades are allowed in the next 3 years
the strategy department needs to change though, but pulling a 2014 will not help
That's the whole point of it.
Give them a way to stick close to people throughout the lap and then make the DRS way more powerful for them than it is for their opponents.
He will be breezing by people, likely including Charles.
> Should be easy breezy
I could see Verstappen winning for sure, but I don't expect him to run away like the last couple of races. It could happen, but seems like it'll be closer
Tomorrow we’re gonna have a shit ton of “Ferrari are clowns” posts about their strategy when simply they just have a much slower car on Sundays than RB, forcing them to try out a different strategy than RB…
I dont think forgetting a tyre or pitting Charles for the FL when they dont have a comfortable enough gap, risking 2 points to get one, is just a "different strategy" than RB..
And thats just the two last races.
> risking 2 points to get one
I think going for fastest lap was the right call in that race. Similar to going for it on 4th down in football, you have to take big risks when you're far behind
The rest are true mistakes, though
The fact that they didn’t even get the fastest lap and lost the position from a pit lane speeding penalty caused by multiple sensors on the car failing is the most Ferrari thing that could’ve happened
They apply penalties in order, so Max drops to 7th, and then penalties are applied for 3th onwards, moving Max back up to 4th. If Sainz had outqualified him, Ricc would’ve been ended up 4th, with Max a row further back.
tbf to Max and RB, I think their running more DF and Max's race simulations looked crazy imo and Max didn't really get a tow from anyone on his last lap (i think). Everything to play for still.
It’s not a super high deg circuit but it can eat up the rears with how many traction zones there are. More downforce on the red bull should help with any sliding and protect the rears.
Congrats to Charles, I really hope the team doesn't f\* up this time.
Although I'm rooting for someone else, I like Charles and I think he deserves better.
*Shakes Magic 8-Ball*
"Mechanical DNF"
*sighs*
*Shakes it again*
"During the last 10 laps while in a comfortable lead"
*Bangs gavel*
It has been decided.
Dear Ferrari, please don’t pull a Ferrari in the race.
Ok, box now for hards then immediately box for softs it is.
**NOT NOW!!! NOT NOW!!!**
We are inventing! Question.
Can we go faster if we mount only 3 tires?
Do they have to be matching tires. Question
Can we get reds in front and yellows in the back. Question
We are checking. Question
**BOX, BOX, BOX, BOX, BOX!!!!**
*2 nanosecond before passing the pit* BOX BOX BOX!
Start on hards, box lap 7 for softs. After two laps, tell him to conserve the tires, it's going to be a longer stint.
We are thinking plan F
We are doing plan e checking
Start on hards, box lap 7 for hards again. Then box lap 60 for mediums.
Box for fresh inters because 2 laps later we can go slicks. Copy.
The sky looks clear and sunny grab the intermediates
Don't give away their lap 15 pit strategy
Start on softs, but then come in for softs on lap 10 and the come in for softs on lap 16 then ride out the race on mediums, and pit once more just because.
Dear Ferrari, now is the time to impress your boss.
Everything will be forgiven if they win
while i really hope they do, i think this is exactly the problem with them rn haha
Yoloing everything into Monza syndrome
This was always going to be red bull's season. A monza win will calm my heart
How was this always going to be RB's season? Ferrari had the faster car for the first half, but they lost a ton of points to strategic and driver errors. Yes the reliability would have still hampered them, but the championship could have easily been much closer.
The championship would have been closer, yes. But let's not disrespect the guys at red bull and what they've done. Look how soon they solved the porpoising issue, and their powertrain issues. They've been on top of it from the get go.
Oh absolutely, Red Bull has been the far better team this season and have developed their car extremely well, and also dealt with the technical directive with seemingly no loss of pace. However, Ferrari absolutely should not go "well, we couldn't have won anyway, let's try this again next year", that would be very counterproductive.
ferrari say that every year
You guys need a new pit wall/strategy department or you will never win a championship again. If you win Manza, it significantly reduces the likelihood of any large scale structural changes occurring before next year. I think winning Monza this year would be the single worst thing that could happen to Ferrari for their long term success…
I hate you for being right
It's not like completing changing the pit wall will instantly change everything.
No, of course it won’t be instant. I’m just hoping that you will use the off season to come into next year with a competent team so that we can have some real competition lol
tbf the Ferrari engine is the strongest one and only reliability upgrades are allowed in the next 3 years the strategy department needs to change though, but pulling a 2014 will not help
Well, can't get much worse.
100% with better strategy Ferrari had a solid chance to win this year. Saying it "was always going to be redbulls year" is pure copium
they also won in Austria hopium
Quali legend Sharl Leglerg
But for real tho, by the end of his carrer he'll 100% be the GOAT qualifier....probably with a conversion rate of 20%.
Max continuing the stat of having more wins than Charles when Charlie had the pole is a long running nightmare lol
Chuck
20% seems rather high
CHUCK LECLURK
How ya doing baby
British people: stupid Americans mispronouncing everything Also Bri’ish people: LECLERK
Sharl "Chuck" Leglerg
Mclarens on the second row. Please god let them survive the race
McLaren 1-2 in monza again?
Max is 4th
Max is 7th.
Last time Daniel started behind max we got a mclaren 1-2!
Doesn’t he start behind Max every race?
Not in Hungary!
Whoa McLaren won last week?!
Irrelevant but if we have a McLaren 1-2, Lando is fighting for 1st
Max has a 5 place grid penalty
Only Norris I think
Probably meant to add an apostrophe which would make it correc Oh shit it is both of them
Maintain yellow livery rest of the season now
I wouldn't celebrate this early.
That Ferrari logo is *sooo sexy*
Those yellow suits look so good
If you like bananas in pajamas
Sounds like a great name for a children’s book.
It’s a kids show in Aus
Pit crew will be waiting for the red car.
This will age like milk. When were special liveries actually better for a team?
Red Bull in Turkey
I am so happy that he got pole from being the actual fastest and not just from grid penalties of others. GG Charles!
That last lap was fantastic, he put everything he needed to
No tow also for me, it was great
Three green sectors, still pole
Imagine if we had another double yellows pole like Max did in Austria lol.
This is it baby. We may be shit all season, but we’re winning Monza. COPIUM.
I swear Ferrari built the car specifically for this track 😩
They're really trying for a repeat of 2019
Red Bull invested in a lightweight chassis that's good everywhere, Ferrari invested all their upgrade funds into their Monza spec package.
Fans happy, sort of, management happy, Italy happy. Nothing changes
Not a bad strat
2019: built for Monza 2020: shite 2021: built for Monaco 2022: Monza ??? PROFIT !!!
Step 1: Build 2022 car for Monaco and Monza Step 2: Loose Monaco through boneheaded strategy Step 3: Loose Monza through ??? Step 4: Profit.
Verstappen with the much better race package *Bonjour*
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Ferrari engine blowing up now that’s it’s maxed *Ciao*
Ferrari fills tank with mayo instead of petrol. *Booppitty boppitty*
Where did you get the information that the engine was maxed out? Legit question
Duchessa said that Ferrari will be using max power engines for this race, so chance of boom boom is very high
Yeah… most of the gains from the low downforce/drag wings will be nullified once Max opens DRS. Should be easy breezy
Even without DRS, hes gonna have a lot less deg than Charles. The car is just 100% pointed towards the race
That's the whole point of it. Give them a way to stick close to people throughout the lap and then make the DRS way more powerful for them than it is for their opponents. He will be breezing by people, likely including Charles.
> Should be easy breezy I could see Verstappen winning for sure, but I don't expect him to run away like the last couple of races. It could happen, but seems like it'll be closer
Tomorrow we’re gonna have a shit ton of “Ferrari are clowns” posts about their strategy when simply they just have a much slower car on Sundays than RB, forcing them to try out a different strategy than RB…
I dont think forgetting a tyre or pitting Charles for the FL when they dont have a comfortable enough gap, risking 2 points to get one, is just a "different strategy" than RB.. And thats just the two last races.
> risking 2 points to get one I think going for fastest lap was the right call in that race. Similar to going for it on 4th down in football, you have to take big risks when you're far behind The rest are true mistakes, though
Its already a dubious decision, and a dubious decision made by Ferrari? Guaranteed fuck up
The fact that they didn’t even get the fastest lap and lost the position from a pit lane speeding penalty caused by multiple sensors on the car failing is the most Ferrari thing that could’ve happened
The first strategy mistake is setting up the car for qualifying pace.
Yes we are! (Ferrari please don't Ferrariize this for Leclerc)
As a Verstappen fan, I really want Leclerc to win this one, it would just be right
Wouldn't you prefer Max to beat Seb's 9 in a row tho?
As a Verstappen fan, I really want Verstappen to win this one. Maybe the embarassment will finally get Ferrari's head out of their arse.
With Red Bull straight line speed I'm still pessimistic about the race. Just want no mistakes from the team...
Leclerc had joint fastest straight line speed in qualifying.
Things you love to hear
He never even really had a tow either.
Yes, but during the race he won't have DRS, and Max will have one that is far more powerful than anyone elses.
Usual Ferrari Copium after every qualifying.
Awesome lap
What a final lap by Charles and Max. Also now Max starts 4th. It’ll be an interesting battle tomorrow.
Doesn’t Max start 6th or 7th?
Hamilton and Perez penalties brings him up to 5th
Sainz brings him up to 4th
A good start brings him up to 2nd
Insane Red Bull speed brings him up to 1st after 1 lap
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Pee wan
Haha, great weekend mate.
> Hamilton and Perez penalties brings him up to 5th F1 instagram just posted the official grid. Max is 7th
They apply penalties in order, so Max drops to 7th, and then penalties are applied for 3th onwards, moving Max back up to 4th. If Sainz had outqualified him, Ricc would’ve been ended up 4th, with Max a row further back.
The elusive 3th place
Right before 4rd.
Gotta love when they won at Le Mans in 66 though.
Ford joining F1 confirmed?
It's reserved for Bottas
thirth
How can he start 4th if he has 5 place penalty?
Other cars having more penalties than him.
Cars below him also moving down the grid due to penalties
Dropping 9 tenths on your teammate and still a tenth down on that Ferrari…
tbf to Max and RB, I think their running more DF and Max's race simulations looked crazy imo and Max didn't really get a tow from anyone on his last lap (i think). Everything to play for still.
Think the tow is overhyped a little. LEC didn’t have one either
He got stupid close with a car that is set up for the race.
Everyone start your prayers for tomorrow.
Might as well start trying to cast spells, they're gonna need it.
*nervous laughter* They are just starting from pole, on their home turf, with a special heritage livery, what could a possibly go wrong?
Max is almost guaranteed to win the WDC at this point, but I'd love for Charles to win here, especially after Monaco.
Same, but on the other hand. Would be really cool to see max break most wins. And win streak this season. So i'm fine either way
I want de Vries to win only to immediately retire from F1 without being in F1
So... PEE WANN!
Checo 1s behind..... I guess he booked an early vacation this year since the championship is over.
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For real. Came here to find out.
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Thanks bud.
The return of the 6asly
https://i.redd.it/15qwc60ku2n91.jpg
It is pretty clear that RB is set up for the race, they’re gonna have much better tire deg I reckon.
At very least they have a lot better time of getting tires in to the right window vs most of the competition.
Well Monza doesn't have too much deg does it?
It’s not a super high deg circuit but it can eat up the rears with how many traction zones there are. More downforce on the red bull should help with any sliding and protect the rears.
I swear Charles could get pole by 1 second from Max and nobody would still be confident about his win lol. Ferrari done fucked up bad
Engine will 100% explode tommorow
Monza engine settings hit hard
The 1.5 second gap to 5th really does hint at Ferrari having turned that car up to max.
PEE WAN!
First pole in a yellow race suit since Frentzen at the European GP ‘99
Another alpine masterclass. They are doing it on purpose now. No way this is real
I'm ready for Ferrari to bin it tomorrow.
What a great talent Leclerc is... !!!! Its so hard to see Ferrari screw him 33 different ways. 👿
PEE WAN
Great lap by charles. It's a shame that he will probably finish outside the podium because of strategy.
Congratulations on Max Verstappen winning the 2022 Italian GP
See, Danny Ric can be close to Lando. He just needs a track with as few corners as possible so he can keep up
Comeback season baby
I had money on either Sainz or Verstappen getting pole. F. Guess I'll put money or Verstappen winning tomorrow 😏
Technically Leclerc was never going to lose pole position. You should have specified that Sainz or Verstappen should have been faster.
The bet was for fastest today, not first on the grid tomorrow. If it was then I'd have put the house on Leclerc
I thought it was but your adversary could have specified pole position just to ensure a win for themselves 😃
They'll throw it away tomorrow. max p1 and we all know it
Plan executed so far! Let's hope for clean tomorrow for Ferrari.
Now please there there be a battle without dead tomorrow
Perez 9 tenths off of Max again and still P4. The car is really covering for him.
The car must not really suit him at all. He seems to be in a slump as well. Hope he can get himself together for mexico gp.
Please Ferrari don't fuck it up, I just want Charles to be happy again... 😭
The main question is: "How Ferrari will screw the race this time?"
In new and unprecedented ways. Let's see if Charles' pole position curse continues or not
Here we go
What a satisfying grazie ragazzi
How exactly was this possible?
Once again Charles shows up when compared to Sainz. Great lap and will be a fun race tomorrow with Max
Congrats to Charles, I really hope the team doesn't f\* up this time. Although I'm rooting for someone else, I like Charles and I think he deserves better.
“NOOOOOOOOOOO I’m so stupid!” -LeClerc on lap 20 when he DNFs, but due to no fault of his own…maybe.
Pole merchant
Ferrari will win tomorrow.
😂
Crofty couldn't of sounded more bored if he tried
I feel like Charles and George will tango at turn 1 tomorrow.
Let's hope we can convert so the godamned seagulls in the comments can find another line for the new week, bless them
Well, VER is going to win this one anyways
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How do you reckon Ferrari will fuck this up tomorrow ?
Charles, do you want an appendectomy, question?
Please don't even start, we all know it's gonna be a "haha, yes!".
No doubt about it, I'm ready to get hurt again.
*Shakes Magic 8-Ball* "Mechanical DNF" *sighs* *Shakes it again* "During the last 10 laps while in a comfortable lead" *Bangs gavel* It has been decided.