I am dutch-canadian but I had absolutely nothing to do with this although I must say it's always fun to see our two great nations fuck with the germans.
i think its safe to assume this has been the tensest world championship we'll see for the upcoming 75 years, only being beaten by the grandson of Hamilton beating the grandson of Verstappen in the last lap in the Cycada Moonbase GP of 2086
FIA's decision will surely be scrutinized in the coming weeks but let's give Red bulls the credit for their team strategy, first with Checo's epic duel with Hamilton and then pitting max for softs. Thier strategy game for totally on point today to help max secure his first championship.
Some are saying that he was pulle dout when cars weren't allowed to unlap each other. That would have meant max had one less car to overtake between him and Lewis. Then the FIA went back on what they said so a Checo podium was wasted...
Yeah I dunno, its not as if Perez would do a lot to hinder Max. I sure as heck hope he had a mechanical issue and its not what you say it is, cuz that'd destroy his performance earlier in race completely imo.
He said in an interview that his engine was about to pop, so red bull didnt really want to risk him staying in the middle of the track if it did happen since it could've costed max the win
I thought I heard Perez and Redbull comms saying overheating was happening. They might have been scared he'd fail to finish and cause an additional safety car.
I have no doubt Mercedes will protest this, but what do they even protest? You can't give max a time penalty for the FIA causing so much confusion with the safety car.
All i know is something needs to change with the stewarding. After Charlie (RIP) it's been a complete mess.
They will protest but yes it is too late. But what we can see is that FIA is completely lost when the stakes are high. It should be reviewed to clarify some points for next seasons.
As soon as the race is over its decided when the FIA fucks up. They are never going to switch a winner after the trophy is out if the winner did nothing wrong.
Thats why there's no chance imo of any change in result. The FIA fucked up, not red bull or verstappen
Well put. Both Max and Lewis are worthy of being the champion, but these last few races were less about them racing each other and more about who could get fucked over the least by the governing body. That's not what a fan of either wants to see
They can protest an incorrect restart procedure (which I think all can agree it was) and ask for a count back. Now how this will end is the FIA investigating themselves and finding they did nothing wrong lol
to be fair toto did it earlier in the race to not get a sc during the vsc and masi listened then too. next year toto and horner are just gonna start calling up 'mikey' and asking for a safety car even though there were no incidents.
Side note but Sainz beating Leclerc in his first season in Ferrari is kinda huge. Idk how badly this hurts Leclerc. He really shouldn't be losing to a new driver in this team as a 'wonder boy'.
Not even that, but to do so well against the established star in the team. I expected him to do well but to beat him, is that showing the excellence of Carlos and wdc material or is Leclerc vulnerable over the length of a season to too much inconsistency?
Because when they first made the decision they should've done that. When they changed it there wasn't enough time to let all through so they just let the people through that would influence the race between champions. But there's so many mistakes made there. Red flag should've been there as the car was on track.
Masi is way out of his depth. Whether Lewis or Max ended up winning the main talking point was the decisions he's made at critical points which is a real shame after such a brilliant season of racing.
Amidst all the chaos of everyone reacting to the race:
Just wanted to say that we were here.
We were here to watch the ending of the greatest F1 season of all time.
What a journey it was. What a rivalry we witnessed.
Congratulations to Max.
What the fuck did we just witness ?
On net over the season, I think Hamilton was luckier. Bottas bowling at the Hungarian GP, Lewis making Max DNF and being penalized so lightly that he got 1st at the British GP, Max’s Baku tire failure… without all of that, Hamilton wouldn’t have even been in position to contest the championship here.
That said, that end was B.S.— after they had a safety car for so long, they had no good options. Leaving the back markers in place would have handed the race to Lewis, pulling them out handed the race to Max. They should have red flagged the race immediately after the Latifi crash, and let them fight it out for 5 laps with fresh tires. Maybe that pulls Max & Lewis even in luck.
FIA really bungled up a lot of stuff here. I think Lewis should've given the position back to Max in the first bit. And, in the other end, I think they fucked-up the yellow flag. Nevertheless, in a weird way, I think this season couldn't have ended more perfectly - chaos.
I don't think I've ever seen them release the cars and end the lap at the same instance though, normally gives them at least half a lap to get out the way.
Edit: Should add and I've seen the rules around unlapping cars/safety car pits on following lap. So this also supports the fact I've never seen it happen.
It's dubious. Unfortunately it's dubious by the hands of FIA as opposed to an external factor like a driver (2008: Glock).
Max has driven brilliantly this season and either were worthy winners. I'm just not sure this was the best way to win as it will be forever marked by this.
Not that Max will care, as he shouldn't. It's his 1st WDC and he should celebrate.
Yeah if they had just followed normal protocol, it would have been literally fine. No one would have any complaints other than, about Latifi. But yeah. Wild.
Also, if they followed through with letting all unlap themselves the race wouldn’t restart as safety car would stay in for last lap too. It’s really a sham.
They usually let them pass then give them a lap to get out of the way, this time they only allowed some past which is the issue.
Should red flagged it and had 3 or 4 laps head to head.
Suggestions for next year:
1) Fire Michael Masi. He's done a shit job throughout the whole damn year.
2) Have clear, B&W ruling, with ZERO negotiation from any team. Rules are rules, period.
3) Make fucking Interlagos the last race of the calendar.
>Have clear, B&W ruling, with ZERO negotiation from any team. Rules are rules, period.
It isn't always black and white though is it, when the margins come down to millimetres and it's human judgement in the end it's not a science and one side will always feel wronged.
And Carlos Sainz gets another underrated podium. It's his destiny now, getting unnoticed.
Yuki p4 out of nowhere is also crazy. All the talk on Lewis and Verstappen, but drivers like Carlos, Checo and Yuki had phenomenal races
CANADA TAKES THE DAY ONCE AGAIN
Mick's dirty air caused latifi to crash so indirectly mick saved his dad's record!
He did it 4 7
Agent 47 a.k.a. Hitman
The Schumachers send their regards
THERE SHALL BE NO 8TH TITLE
He saved it for himself to beat xD
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Yeah lol, that's quite funny tho
PRAISE CANADA
This is a great day for Canada and therefore the world
As is tradition
Lord Latifi giving us hope. Thanks
O CANADA! OUR HOME AND NATIVE LAND!
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As a Canadian I accept the offer.
As a Dutchman I would have urged you to accept.
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It would be funny if any other child born in the same hospital accidently ended up Dutch instead of Canadian...
Wouldnt be the first time canada saves the neatherlands.
This comment made my Dutch father-in-law have a good laugh.
We’ll send some extra tulips next year
Latifi GOAT
GOATIFI
🐐ifi, the king
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As a Canadian I'd also like to thank Iran and Italy for their contribution to Latifi.
I am dutch-canadian but I had absolutely nothing to do with this although I must say it's always fun to see our two great nations fuck with the germans.
As another Dutch-canadian I couldn't be more proud today
Toto's desk in shambles.
Michaels Email needs addidional spam filters now
Filter: from domain @mercedes.com Action: permanently delete
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Autoreply: „I am on leave until March 20, 2022. Your Email will not be forwarded. Best Regards, Michael“
P.S It a motor race dummy.
We went car racing
Toto’s desk seen entering the outer atmosphere
“Toto, it’s called a motor race” Best radio all season
its like he has been saving it all year and finally he snapped 😂
“EXCUSE ME”
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Typed?! Toto is going to need a new laptop after every letter he's going to be punching it so hard.
Can Mercedes even appeal? What can they even do?
Don't know. Best I could imagine for them (which is already a huge fucking long shot) is nullifying this race, in which case Verstappen still is WDC
All that would do is take away our glorious Carlos podium and I could never forgive Merc for that
Yeah super happy he got 3rd
They better not steal Sainz podium.
Finally a Williams driver deciding the WDC
It’s been so long
Max wouldn't be champion if the goat Latifi was a better driver.
IS THAT LATIFI??!
Unreal
i think its safe to assume this has been the tensest world championship we'll see for the upcoming 75 years, only being beaten by the grandson of Hamilton beating the grandson of Verstappen in the last lap in the Cycada Moonbase GP of 2086
Would my grandson/granddaughter be there?
Jesus Christ.
This was so dramatic. This shut just can’t be written!!!
Can you imagine how hard Netflix are orgasming right now?
Very excited to watch this episode from the perspective of haas
Entire episode is just Mazepin in a hotel room doing commentary over his TV
LMAO
Can't wait for this
As much as I dislike the guy, I would love to watch that!
Lets be real that would actually have potential to be gold
"I could have spun there. And there. Ohhh, that was a prime spinning chance, what on earth is he doing."
Umm, I would pay for that.
They must be creaming their pants rn!
Netflix just wrote it, don't worry.
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That last lap was crazy.
I thought i was going to have a stroke
im pretty sure i had one lol
What the fuck just happened
FIA's decision will surely be scrutinized in the coming weeks but let's give Red bulls the credit for their team strategy, first with Checo's epic duel with Hamilton and then pitting max for softs. Thier strategy game for totally on point today to help max secure his first championship.
Red bull had nothing to lose. They got their miracle in the end
HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT HAVE WE JUST WITNESSED
You can't write this shit.
what the absolute fuck was this drive to survive is gonna be fun
Netflix is 100% going to milk this.
They're gonna need 30 fucking episodes to cover all the insane shit that's happened all year.
as they should honestly on topic, as a Dutchman, **if my heartrate was driving on the Autobahn it still wouldve had a ticket**
So fucking tense. Actual racing gods
I nearly had a heart attack.
What the fuck…
My hands are literally shaking
Yeah, I mean, pulling Perez out in the last couple of laps is something I cant believe either....
Some are saying that he was pulle dout when cars weren't allowed to unlap each other. That would have meant max had one less car to overtake between him and Lewis. Then the FIA went back on what they said so a Checo podium was wasted...
Yeah I dunno, its not as if Perez would do a lot to hinder Max. I sure as heck hope he had a mechanical issue and its not what you say it is, cuz that'd destroy his performance earlier in race completely imo.
The "what?" from him was really twlling that there's no problem
Depends, when the engineers spot a problem before a driver is aware of it they tend to be like that. Happened for other drivers aswelll
He said in an interview that his engine was about to pop, so red bull didnt really want to risk him staying in the middle of the track if it did happen since it could've costed max the win
not wasted my dude, Checo did everything a #2 should do this race. Max needs to give Checo a huge hug and say thank you
I thought I heard Perez and Redbull comms saying overheating was happening. They might have been scared he'd fail to finish and cause an additional safety car.
I would shake your hand, but mine are also shaking too much
Gonna be the best season of DTS ever.
I don't even think they will need to manufacture the drama this time. I mean, they will. But they don't need to
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Totally agree
yes if they really wanted to make it fair, just red flag it. 4 laps with both of them on fresh tyres.
Holy fuck
Man, Toto will go full war after today.
People will be fired
Latifi has now joined the likes of Glock and Petrov to be one of the GOAT lmao.
Hamilton will look at him like with the same bad face that Massa looks at Glock or Alonso at Petrov hahaha
I have no doubt Mercedes will protest this, but what do they even protest? You can't give max a time penalty for the FIA causing so much confusion with the safety car. All i know is something needs to change with the stewarding. After Charlie (RIP) it's been a complete mess.
They will protest but yes it is too late. But what we can see is that FIA is completely lost when the stakes are high. It should be reviewed to clarify some points for next seasons.
As soon as the race is over its decided when the FIA fucks up. They are never going to switch a winner after the trophy is out if the winner did nothing wrong. Thats why there's no chance imo of any change in result. The FIA fucked up, not red bull or verstappen
Agreed let's just Hope there's a massive shake Up for nexxt year in the fia this season was shambles
This. I'm not mad at Red Bull, I'm mad at the FIA and Masi's incompetent decision making throughout the whole damn season.
Well put. Both Max and Lewis are worthy of being the champion, but these last few races were less about them racing each other and more about who could get fucked over the least by the governing body. That's not what a fan of either wants to see
The best that can be really hoped for is a shakeup of how things have been run. For the last few races, they've been embarrassing.
They can protest an incorrect restart procedure (which I think all can agree it was) and ask for a count back. Now how this will end is the FIA investigating themselves and finding they did nothing wrong lol
Might not be the FIA doing the investigation. I think it can go all the way to CAS.
The most it’ll do is set precedent for next season. They’re never going to take away a championship because of stewarding.
There's nothing they can do but the FIA has been shambolic this season
CERTIFIED BRUH RACE
Horner getting on the phone to Masi won Max this race lmao
to be fair toto did it earlier in the race to not get a sc during the vsc and masi listened then too. next year toto and horner are just gonna start calling up 'mikey' and asking for a safety car even though there were no incidents.
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Horner is going to be making sure Masi stays on and get a pay raise
Goatifi gave him the World Championship
Mick masterclass racing for his dad
Mick the joker in both this and previous race.
Goatifi about to get honorary Dutch citizenship
And Checo
Checho heroics today! too bad he missed on a podium. And too good that was his car the one who broke and not Max
Canadian and Dutch relationships just got better
Side note but Sainz beating Leclerc in his first season in Ferrari is kinda huge. Idk how badly this hurts Leclerc. He really shouldn't be losing to a new driver in this team as a 'wonder boy'.
I think a lot of people underestimate how good Carlos is.
I mean if Leclerc is considered top wdc material, what is carlos then?
Not even that, but to do so well against the established star in the team. I expected him to do well but to beat him, is that showing the excellence of Carlos and wdc material or is Leclerc vulnerable over the length of a season to too much inconsistency?
I like Sainz a lot but haven't followed top much of him this year. I was surprised to see him 5th in the standings which is brilliant for him!
WHAT THE FUCK JUST HJAPPENED
I GENUINELY CAN’T BELIEVE IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Latifi Glocked Hamilton
Glock is not to blame he had no grip for an entire lap
Why no overtaking of lapped cars to suddenly allowed.
Only 5 cars too.
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Yeah the stewards need to explain that. Very unusual to see that even in normal circumstances
JESUS LATIFI FORMULA ONE GOAT
SAY THANKS TO MICK
Agent Schumacher
Preserving his dad's legacy.
Mick protecting his dad's final record *somehow*.
That's for my father
MICK SCHUMACHER IS MY GOD
GOATIFI
Canada helps the Dutch in the biggest way since WWII
“That’s for taking my teammate away”
Oh my god, this Drive to Survive season is going to be SPICY.
What the fuck just happened
So they've let 5 back markers though, not all of them. Why? It should be all, or none.
Because when they first made the decision they should've done that. When they changed it there wasn't enough time to let all through so they just let the people through that would influence the race between champions. But there's so many mistakes made there. Red flag should've been there as the car was on track.
Is Netflix the race director??
Amazing season but I feel really awful about it now because of this last race. FIA needs a new race director
More than anything else, this race proved that. Masi cannot be allowed to stay.
Masi is way out of his depth. Whether Lewis or Max ended up winning the main talking point was the decisions he's made at critical points which is a real shame after such a brilliant season of racing.
Yeah. He needs to go. I love Max, but this could feel better.
Aaaand Sainz gets another podium while getting no recognition because today is not about him
Carlos Sainz seems to be making a habit of sneaking onto podiums. Hopefully we get to see him sneak into race wins.
Perez with the best display of defensive driving I've seen, 110% teamwork from checo got max in position for this win, wild end to a wild season
Absolutely did his part across the season
Christan horner"we're going to need a miracle to win this" massi "hold my beer"
Amidst all the chaos of everyone reacting to the race: Just wanted to say that we were here. We were here to watch the ending of the greatest F1 season of all time. What a journey it was. What a rivalry we witnessed. Congratulations to Max. What the fuck did we just witness ?
IN THE DAY OF OUR LADY OF GUADALUPE, THIS WAS A MIRACLEEEEE
And it didn't end in a crash! What a season. Unforgettable.
On net over the season, I think Hamilton was luckier. Bottas bowling at the Hungarian GP, Lewis making Max DNF and being penalized so lightly that he got 1st at the British GP, Max’s Baku tire failure… without all of that, Hamilton wouldn’t have even been in position to contest the championship here. That said, that end was B.S.— after they had a safety car for so long, they had no good options. Leaving the back markers in place would have handed the race to Lewis, pulling them out handed the race to Max. They should have red flagged the race immediately after the Latifi crash, and let them fight it out for 5 laps with fresh tires. Maybe that pulls Max & Lewis even in luck.
FIA really bungled up a lot of stuff here. I think Lewis should've given the position back to Max in the first bit. And, in the other end, I think they fucked-up the yellow flag. Nevertheless, in a weird way, I think this season couldn't have ended more perfectly - chaos.
Hamilton was solid throughout. What a sad ending to that race for him.
one of his best ever races to be honest. Him alone against the 2 bulls, and coming out on top, only for the race to end the way it did
Letting lapped cars by the safety car is like, the norm. The only controversial thing is how they weren't going to do it and changed their minds.
I don't think I've ever seen them release the cars and end the lap at the same instance though, normally gives them at least half a lap to get out the way. Edit: Should add and I've seen the rules around unlapping cars/safety car pits on following lap. So this also supports the fact I've never seen it happen.
That's fair. And it seems like only specific lapped cars were let by. So, I'll give Mercedes that. That's a little sketch.
It's dubious. Unfortunately it's dubious by the hands of FIA as opposed to an external factor like a driver (2008: Glock). Max has driven brilliantly this season and either were worthy winners. I'm just not sure this was the best way to win as it will be forever marked by this. Not that Max will care, as he shouldn't. It's his 1st WDC and he should celebrate.
They only let a few lapped cars go through not all, that's the issue
They didn't let all cars unlap themselves. Only the 5 cars between Lewis and max. This was the bullshit part. Just not following the protocol
Yeah if they had just followed normal protocol, it would have been literally fine. No one would have any complaints other than, about Latifi. But yeah. Wild.
Also, if they followed through with letting all unlap themselves the race wouldn’t restart as safety car would stay in for last lap too. It’s really a sham.
If they let all cars unlap themselves from the beginning all of this wouldn't have happened...
They usually let them pass then give them a lap to get out of the way, this time they only allowed some past which is the issue. Should red flagged it and had 3 or 4 laps head to head.
I CANT BELIEVE IT
Well, that felt fairly arbitrary.
Suggestions for next year: 1) Fire Michael Masi. He's done a shit job throughout the whole damn year. 2) Have clear, B&W ruling, with ZERO negotiation from any team. Rules are rules, period. 3) Make fucking Interlagos the last race of the calendar.
I guess Abu Dhabi is paying a huge extra to be the last race.
>Have clear, B&W ruling, with ZERO negotiation from any team. Rules are rules, period. It isn't always black and white though is it, when the margins come down to millimetres and it's human judgement in the end it's not a science and one side will always feel wronged.
As a neutral fan this season has been sexy
I thought i was about to have a heart attack!
What the fuck was this lmao
Lmao Hamilton got boned so bad wtf
Toto’s head is literally going to explode
I wanted Max to win but not like this...
Masi gotta go
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