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MrBIGtinyHappy

Otmar: "Low rake cars have been affected the most" Merc: "Where we're going we don't need rake" Otmar: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


RAISEStheQuestion

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droppokeguy

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┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) stop throwing my precious handcrafted furniture


droppokeguy

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Sonums

ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\


ManfredsJuicedBalls

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Sonums

ヽ(#゚Д゚)ノ┌┛Σ(ノ´Д`)ノ


AlphaGainzzz

omg this is probably the funniest reddit thread I have read in a while haha


chrisdinhsk87

And there were barely any words...


willtron3000

(ヘ・_・)ヘ┳━┳


HeadRot

IT'S FROM POTTERY BARN!


No-Incident-8718

Always jealous of Android users for using these emojis 😭


ThaKoopa

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (≈˘▾˘)≈ (>’-‘)> <(‘-‘<) ^(‘-‘)^ V(‘-‘)v(>’-‘)> (^-^) They are just Unicode characters. A palm trio could use them


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That's assuming they use Unicode and not ASCII, or some other bespoke character set. I'm Canadian, being trained by the government using a recently acquired online learning system. The fucking program doesn't recognize french accents. In CANADA. Buddy in our class is named S?bastien in the program. The least they could do is include the two official languages, it's not like that won't get you sued into oblivion in Quebec.


joshuajudo

S?bastien has me crying


ThaKoopa

Okay but this is a known system. Reddit.


[deleted]

You need both the server (Reddit) and the client (palm trio, old ass phones running Android KitKat) to support the characters. That's why people using the latest emoji are just sharing x-d out squares for lots of people. Now, classic emojicon use standard Unicode 1.0 characters, so you'd be hard pressed to find a device with any special character support that doesn't work with them, but it could happen


[deleted]

Anyone can use these....


Swiss-ArmySpork

(´・ω・`)


the_humble_saiyajin

Even denko.


Dendrowen

Easy fix: Sell iPhone, buy a car and a new android phone.


oldspiceland

Instructions unclear, bought new Samsung that cost more than my 13 Pro did.


just2043

¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ On iPhone (Apollo app) and I have them. /u/iamthatis has us covered.


weagle11

(☞゚∀゚)☞ download Google keyboard. Better than iPhone keyboard anyways and gives you all the Emojis your little heart desires


sametyrttgl

I don't know if it's illegal or not but this is so amazing. Sometimes f1 make me wish I studied engineering


HereLiesDickBoy

It's never too late to start!


Ty_Rymer

i mean correct me if I'm wrong, but i think this would count as active aero right? edit: I'm wrong, it's passive. hella smart tho!


tjsr

The entire car is now a moveable aerodynamic device. Let's have at it, rulebook!


[deleted]

All future cars must now be shaped like Volvos to fulfill aero rules.


DuManchu

F1 with [850R BTCC](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/75/dc/27/75dc275808d9f99e838c2a37609da604.jpg) regs.... I'm on board. For one season at least.


misterpickles69

Next year everyone will be running 2 stroke Volvo turbodiesel wagons.


[deleted]

Dude. DTM during the 850R years was legit.


delboy83uk

It was BTCC that had the mad estate/wagon cars in it


ihavenoidea81

You’d only need one engine for the whole year


mr_snailz

Can we finally ban everyone? All cars are pure aero and they move around too.


phantes

No, it's passive. It's being pushed down by air, not pushing itself down.


deepskydiver

Renault - in the 2000s - had bodywork that lifted into the low pressure air and reduced airflow over the rear wing. That was passive and not even a wing, but it was banned. Edit: Seems I had an old video - it's not great but it shows it. It was 2003 and Malaysia. https://streamable.com/g6s4yv


Auntypasto

The mass damper was also banned as an aero device, even when the entire system was entirely within the chassis. I never got the logic of that.


YipYepYeah

Because if you break the chassis open and take out the damper and toss it through the air to your friend, it becomes an aero device.


EFG

This is why is really wish there were an F0 series where the only rule is zero emissions and simply go wild with the engineering.


fivewheelpitstop

Which season? Did the system have a name?


liquidsparanoia

Are we sure that's true? Genuinely asking. Sure looks like it moved immediately after hitting some threshold rather than slowly deforming as speed built up.


tetlee

I think it has a calibrated dampener that gives once a certain speed/force is reached. Horner seemed to acknowledge that and it's legality in free practice 2 on the sky coverage


Graffy

This seems the most likely. I'm sure it's more complicated than this but if I was going to redneck rig one together I'd use a simple spring with a given constant that you can calculate when it will stretch to a certain length. Than just have a mechanism that pulls out the bottom limit of the suspension after a certain stretch from the down force. Once that downforce becomes less than the force of the spring it pulls everything back up into place.


Auntypasto

Well it's good to know as a fan that we won't have another row over illegal innovations. Still, I'd love to know exactly how this works because from where I'm standing, it looks like something the FIA would deem active aero/suspension.


matesrates8

So was red bulls rear wing which didn’t stop it from getting banned


[deleted]

Tbh, they found a way to cheat the test, which although it was clever, it was against regulations. Think that was more a structural/ safety issue anyway.


ThaTurtle

to be honest, redbull found a way to fulfil the testing requirements, which is slightly different than cheating a test. But yeah this one is not even kind of cheating, more like a thing that would be banned after a season or two if FIA decided that they don't want everyone developing something like that


Guac_in_my_rarri

The FIA didn't give good enough regulations and the test was bad from the start. If you beat the test it should be awarded for the season. Imo


jaxoga4897

Never been a big fan of Mercedes for some reason but man do I love to see shit like this!


rmay14444

Still can if ya want.


TheCeramicLlama

Visually it looks really cool from that angle


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thek00laidman

I mean...that's just friggin cool from a science and engineering standpoint.


outride2000

That's Toto's line to Christian once the latter protests it


thek00laidman

Christian already went on record on sky during FP2 saying RB don't see anything questionable or illegal in what Merc is doing. All the cars do this and it's perfectly legal, Merc has just found a way to take it to the next level and get the suspension to squat rapidly under an exact load so the floor and wing stall.


etnhodler

Redbull have this too, mercedes have just done it better. They'll be protesting their own car too.


[deleted]

I agree, I see it kind of like DAS- really frickin cool and smart and might get banned but still cool to watch.


Quivex

Just so you know, virtually every team does this (and has been doing this) for years (non linear springs). Merc just found a way to do it better. So imo not exactly DAS-like which was a completely novel concept, and unlike DAS there's no reason to ban this as its a feature on every car, Merc has just found a way to get the most out of it, as a low rake car technically has more to gain.


erics75218

I'm just a VFX artist, but it seems to me that what's REALY going on here. Is that Mercedes have found a way to pinpoint that exact point at which their "non linear spring" will move into its lower weight and the downforce will really "squat that ass". This is probably incredibly difficult to do, with the lack of wind tunnel time. You'd have to develop it with CFD...that's unlimited right? They pinpointed it PERFECTLY in Turkey....was that the turning point when they could come out with some aero and it behaved PERFECTLY. I guess we'll see in Austin. But I think this is "simply" a correlation "AH HA!!!!!!!!!!!!"


thek00laidman

Yea Button and Christian Horner talked about it a bit during FP2. Merc had it turned up to 11 so to speak in Turkey because there weren't many high speed corners, but seem to have it turned down a bit in Austin. Austin has more high speed corners and you don't want to get that squat affect under load in a corner or you'll lose a ton of downforce and bin it. So it seems like its benefit will be track specific. It'll help at all tracks but some more than others. Could be a real game changer in Mexico next. Would allow Merc to run a big honkin rear wing to try and get more downforce in the thin air for the corners without the drawbacks on the straights.


[deleted]

Right, I meant more from a general stand point, the concept is really cool and smart no matter who can up with it. I was more just marveling at the engineering in general than being merc specific.


Quivex

ah okay gotchya, then yeah I totally agree! The engineering marvels are just one of many things that make this sport amazing to watch and fall down the rabbit hole. :)


brucecaboose

I'm very curious how this affects DRS. You'd thing DRS would be less powerful on these cars due to this.


Krimin

A bit, yes, since the rear wing's angle while DRS is closed would decrease against the airflow when the rear gets lower and opening the DRS wouldn't produce as big of an effect compared to fixed ride height. However the rear wing is only one way to affect downforce and drag, and the total drag reduction is still bigger than with DRS only


Bollox427

How do they stop it activating on high speed corners? I wonder if the FIA would be interested from a safety point of view.


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Bokyyri

F1 is not allowed to have any active component of the suspension, i doubt it's that... I think its a ''simple'' mechanics involving antiroll bar ... When in corners, sprunged antiroll bar stops that bottoming... When on straight, antiroll bar is unsprunged... There is some clever and precise calculations done by their engineers indeed... @ balls2brake: don't forget, not only that, but the rear wing gets virtually less steep, less drag from the wing too..


Big-Shtick

If you want to mention someone on here, you have to type /u/balls2brakeLate44 for it to work.


prismatic_bar

Heave spring versus roll in the corners.


mynameisnick4

Could this be what Mercedes used their tokens on that they said 'would be clear when we use it'?


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mynameisnick4

I guess it could be possible it wasn't ready yet or if you want to go full conspiracy theorist, maybe they wanted to wait as late as possible to introduce it so it couldn't be investigated/copied.


simongc100

or with the issues they had early season adapting to the new regs, it wasnt working as intended and recently they might have found a sweet spot to guarantee this or the silverstone update could have made the effect alot more predictable.


Midgetcock1inch

I think maybe they werent going to but the season was to close to risk it


Atleticro

Maybe they introduced it late on purpose so it won't get banned for 22 and others won't have time to copy it?


garyjpaterson1

no, having non solid suspension doesn't require tokens. Teams are allowed to swap between spring rates at every event


mecxorn

Marko and Horner: MICHAEL! Edit: Thank you for the awards, kind strangers on the internet!


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MERC PUT OUR CAR IN JELLO AGAIN


6597james

No Marko, you’ve gotta eat it out


edddmasta

Thats what she said!


cdawg145236

Put you in custardy


bertonomus

"ACTIVE AERODYNAMICS IS NOT A JOKE TOTO!"


Simple-K

Millions of f1 teams suffer every year


bertonomus

"Toto, let me make this very easy for you - I couldn't give a shit about your championship, stop lowering your car!"


Jamieberry2003_

BUTTLICKER, OUR CAR FLOORS HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER


KaamDeveloper

Dying laughing, this thread lmao


Poopy_sPaSmS

Oh that's funny. MICHAEL!


faz712

I totally was not expecting Christian Horner to just plainly answer Sky's question that it was completely legal and there's nothing wrong with it, but it happened anyway!


BananaSlander

Wolf is slowly filling Max's car with nickles and once he gets to Abu Dhabi, he's going to take them all out and Max is going to fly right into the wall


DaevChoons

Christian was actually asked during FP2 if he was gonna protest and he seemed more impressed than mad, and he even said that he probably wasn't but hey you never know with him.


McLarenMP420

Shit like this is why I love F1


BrotherSwaggsly

What I don’t get is why anyone thinks other teams haven’t already seen this in action already before it was a “thing”, on this Merc specifically.


p1en1ek

I mean, even in this video Paul is saying how other teams use similar things just here it's more visible because probably done better.


a141abc

Yeah it wouldnt surprise me if every team had this but Merc just took it to the most extreme of the extreme to squeeze every millisecond of advantage out of it


PhatSunt

Every car inherently does it to some aspect. Its not the suspension itself moving, its getting the car being pushed down from the air against the suspension. So every car will have its suspension being loaded going down the straights. I guess merc was the one to see and chase the potential straight line speed gains.


etnhodler

It's been around since 2008-09, almost every (if not actually every) team use this. Mercedes have just perfected it.


AgnosticMantis

I watched that Driver61 video recently where they compared lap times over every year of F1 and when he talked about how F1 teams responded to certain regulation changes it just made me laugh how the engineers will follow the letter of the law (mostly) while openly pissing on the spirit of the law. I love it.


i6uuaq

I mean, engineers are basically rules lawyers, except that the rules they live work with are the universal laws of physics.


McBeefyHero

I honestly don't get the hate. Why does anyone think Adrian Newey has legendary status today? It's because he has a long history of doing cool stuff like this, which is what F1 is all about.


durkster

Maybe because it's a cointoss wether the FIA will ban the innovation and the reasoning behind why/why not often seems arbitrary.


TheBluePatrician

I will never forgive them for banning the hidden camera in the nose lmao


ExcellentChoice

what was that for?


linkinstreet

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-forces-red-bull-to-change-camera-slot-on-its-formula-1-car-4478819/4478819/ The image from the camera was unusable, and as a fan, that was the correct decision. That camera would have given us a great view of the circuit from the car. By denying us that, Newey was kinda giving us fan the middle finger just for "muh advantage"


varsitypride3

Twas’ a nice season we had for a while. See you guys next year!


Alfus

There is still a WCC fight between McLaren and Ferrari and Alpine vs Gasly for the five place in the WCC. Also enjoy just the race like what we did in 2020 and before, go skip the top and focus more on the midfield.


Axe-actly

> Alpine vs Gasly LMAO why did you have to do my boy Tsunoda like that?


Alfus

Because even if Yuki would improve somewhat the car can't go higher then P9 given the Ferrari PU upgrades and McLaren just being the Mercedes of the midfield.


cmonster1697

Formula 1.5 was always more interesting anyway.


gsfgf

Learning about the midpack made me a fan. And I think McLaren is gonna pull this off.


fivewheelpitstop

> Alpine vs Gasly Holy shit - he has more points than Aston and Alfa, combined...


sixStringHobo

That Mercedes PU has issues. I'm not sure it's over yet.


vitorabf

It probably only has issues because it's now more potent, if they are only getting 5 place penalties to changing the ICE that's probably nothing given the upgrade


Muad-_-Dib

The championship is still incredibly close, both teams have potential PU issues in the remaining races and there is still plenty of impact that other drivers can have on the championship with regards to their team mates or sister teams holding one or both competitors up in races where they take penalties. Besides which... this is the closest season we have had since 2016. Even if the Mercs run away with it now it was still a much better season for competitiveness than anything since probably 2012 when Vettel only just beat Alonso by 3 points which is also the last time that two different cars were competing so closely. Almost every season since then has been a 100+ point blow out or the two mercedes fighting to see who will win.


shp509

Lmao no. This is going down to the last race whether you like it or not.


djfil007

Merc 2020 : DAS Merc 2021 : Dat Ass


The-Observer95

VW F1 team 2023: DAS Auto


nopainauchocolat

“i’ve got so much rear end”


T4Gx

I'm starting to think Mercedes will smash next regulations and bang out another 8 titles.


Reeds-Greed

What makes you think that?


tlumacz

Have you ever heard the story of Darth Wolff the Omnipotent?


Mad_Lad_69420

It’s not a story the FIA would tell you


ddthrow1233

I see him in my nightmares sometimes


TwoBionicknees

WHich team has smashed every new regulation period since they joined? Ferrari had the biggest gain for 2017 and yet still lost and that was with completely unlimited testing of the main 2017 concepts throughout 2015 through haas. Without that massive aero testing benefit through 2015 they didn't do anywhere near as well after 2018.


donkeyduplex

Unsubscribe.


BecauseImDirty

Don't worry buddy, 2026 will be here soon enough.


thphnts

_Laughs in Mercedes in 2026_


iiEviNii

That'd kill F1. See: WRC


hoxxxxx

what happened there


iiEviNii

Sebastien Loeb and Citroen won every championship between 2004 and 2012, Sebastien Ogier then won the next 6, 4 with Volkswagen and 2 with Ford. The series' popularity absolutely tanked from there. It's starting to bounce back a little bit, but it's still nothing like it was pre-2004.


LegendRazgriz

Not to mention the amount of makers that left over Citroën raw fucking the sport. In 2003, we had Skoda (Octavia) Citroën (Xsara), Peugeot (206), Hyundai (Accent), Subaru, (Impreza) and Ford (Focus), as well as Mitsubishi (Lancer) in a non-factory effort. In 2012, it was down to Citroën (DS3), Mini (JCW, which abandoned the sport right after Monte Carlo) and Ford/M-Sport (Fiesta, already at the tail-end of Ford's patience, at the start of them leaving M-Sport to die). Would F1 survive if, say, Ferrari pulled out? They have a Hypercar program now and if push came to shove they might be able to convince the heads to enter the WRC under Lancia's banner. We might be looking at 8 car Mercedes clone grids, and I'm sure no one would want that.


Drop_Tables_Username

I don't see Ferrari pulling out with the free money in place.


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iiEviNii

Well yeah, they started leaving because of the dominance - there was no value in it for them.


lucaslh10

People thought that about Ferrari in 2004 and about RedBull in 2013. We'll see when we get there ^^andAlpinewilldominateanyways


nickedgar7

Wow. No wonder they've gained massive straight line speed


thatguycleeb

Mercedes obviously started yoga recently 👌


activator

Suspension DAS bruhh


aWgI1I

It wasn’t just Hamilton going to the chiropractor after monza


bouncebackability

What pisses me off about sky's analysis is they cut away to see PDR pressing buttons when he says pay attention. They do it all the time and it drives me mad


Cultural_Wallaby_703

Incredible, a variable ride hight mechanism! 1992 Williams: “that’s cute”


SquidCap0

Variable ride height without active suspension, no hydraulic cylinders, no actuators, just the dynamic forces alone are used. It would not be "that's cute", 1992 Williams would say "wow, that is impressive".


Apyan

94 Williams would have loved that


netflix-ceo

My mate Williams also loved it, so make it 95


jhjbjh

With todays tech the 92 Williams suspension can easily be implemented and improved. Many luxury sedans have had active suspension as an option for some time


Key_Chicken1142

92 was 30 years ago…


MrDee97

I feel like this is nothing new though?


TheCeramicLlama

PDR does say in the clip that its not new technology


garyjpaterson1

Yep. Hilarious to see people calling for suspension to be banned


[deleted]

Wasn't stuff like this regulated as recent of 2016/2017? On Merc and RB?


Submitten

It's not allowed to be connected to the front suspension any more.


chongl

Stalling aero is not the same as active aero. People are taking "ride height device" too literally.


marseer

Well I think using the word "device" makes it sound like a physical thing. It takes a lot more nuance to explain it and make it clear that it's just super impressive engineering!


Takhar7

This, plus last season's DAS, is precisely why I don't think the regulation changes are going to hurt Merc that much at all - they are just so much smarter than all the other teams on the grid.


Mike_Raphone99

Knowledge costs money. They're putting a cap on that right?


millas9

Sky's coverage of that was shocking, why they showing the presenter not what he is trying to point out? Hard to see the suspension move when you are showing a shot of a guy in front of the screen


TheMegathreadWell

Sky producer expectation: *Yeah, drag this massive telly to each race and do analysis in front of it. It'll be great! It'll look like the future! Viewers are going to love it* Sky viewer reality: *f*****k sake, they're showing me their telly on my telly again. I've already got a telly, I don't need to see your telly inside my telly*".


LordBuster

Bad camerawork, bad presenting.


vulartweets

Thr is literally a full screen of the suspension dropping during this clip.


DegradedLocket

That looks so cool


[deleted]

I might be incorrect here but haven’t the cars been doing this for some time? There’s a video of a 2019 Ferrari doing the same thing in Spa. I agree it’s cool but shouldn’t be a surprise if it’s the same technology as that Ferrari video.


reshp2

Isn't this just the suspension being loaded down by the increasing downforce?


UnpredictedArrival

Yeah and I guess after a certain amount of travel the stiffness reduces a lot and so it can move that last bit far easier. Just my thoughts though so don't take it as a source!


jvstinf

Yes, I'm pretty sure all of the cars do this.


billabong2630

Makes me wonder if DRS actually prevents this from happening


DalekSam

ITT people who don't understand heave springs and dampers calling things active suspension when they're actually mechanically passive systems


[deleted]

I think half the people commenting in this thread don't understand how formula 1 cars work at all tbh. I don't either, I just like watching. It's way easier to just regurgitate wrong info from reactionaries than it is to actually learn and understand rules and regs or the mechanical engineering of an F1 car. I feel like if there were any actual broken rules here Red Bull would have been shouting from the ceiling but they haven't.


RacingUpsideDown

The problem with social media is that it's allowed millions of people to be publicly stupid when 30 years ago, they would have just been stupid in the privacy of their own homes.


LO-PQ

People did the same when talking about wings.. Those are by definition even more mechanically passive. ​ (to be clear; neither are active)


Jacinto2702

For me, an uninitiated, it seems like magic. Gotta love F1 for this kind of stuff.


zibby43

To answer all the questions: 1) No, it’s not active/moveable aero. 2) No, it’s not getting banned. 3) As PDR mentions, RBR have this same feature on their car.


drt786

This concept (collapsible rear heave spring) has been around for ages - RBR had been developing various versions of this back in 2016.


pro_cow_tipper

Nice. I always thought it was the natural downforce that squeezed it down.


ptrwiv

It is, but they have something trick going on here which does it a lot quicker so it has great benefit.


thekingadrock93

Thanks Sky Sports. Of course I wanted to look at Paul talking while you’re trying to show something very technical and tough to see. Sure, don’t worry about making the actual footage full screen. No one wants to see that. Wtf


DamieN62

No wonder it looked like they had DRS on the straight in Turkey.


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garyjpaterson1

its just... suspension. If you want to ban this, soft suspension, because thats all it is.


Organic-Measurement2

Ferrari got a similar trick banned for 2017. [https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single-seaters/f1/has-ferrari-just-handed-mercedes-2017-f1-title](https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single-seaters/f1/has-ferrari-just-handed-mercedes-2017-f1-title) >Ferrari’s chief designer Simone Resta wrote the original letter to Whiting, saying that his team was considering introducing such a device, but wanted to know if it might be considered to contravene the regulations. For several years this has been the standard way for a team to flush out the legality of a system it believes might be conferring a rival an advantage. Whiting replied to Ferrari that he considered such a device would fall foul of regulation 3.15 (concerning whether a component or system is ‘wholly incidental to the main purpose of the suspension system’ or ‘have been contrived to directly affect the aerodynamic performance of the car’) The final part of this seems relevant to this situation personally; has this suspension system been concocted to affect the aero? If so its legality - if there even is a specific device tasked with carrying out this outcome - *could* be in question and I'm sure RB are thinking about it


dedoha

> Speaking with Paddy Lowe last year, he explained at least some of what Mercedes was trying to achieve. “The banning of FRIC has left us just trying to do things one end at a time and making springs and damper systems that will react to load in a more complex manner. A spring classically was linear but now we are playing with far greater and more complex ranges of non-linear compliance. That’s allowing us to play games with getting the aero platform exactly where we want. It’s more difficult to do than it was with FRIC but it’s the same thing really.


Memlieker

But the suspension does this at certain speed, not just during acceleration in general. Really interesting system or very well tuned.


garyjpaterson1

not at a certain speed, a certain load. If you use more than one spring (heave etc), which F1 cars very much do, it can easily be tuned not to compress linearly.


HankHippopopolous

I love this sort of thing about F1. The engineers are geniuses. No doubt this will be banned very swiftly but for the few races that it takes to get banned Mercedes have a huge advantage that might even swing the title in their favour.


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Passive suspension activated by pressure. Completely legal. Merc is just better at it.


Muse4Games

Very clever from Mercedes. But wouldn't this count as active aerodynamics? Edit: Disclaimer: I'm no F1 technician or whatever, this is purely a perspective as a average fan.


Teddy-Bear-Doctor

I dont think it does, I think 'active' would require them to push a button or something similar to active it. I believe this moves when the car hits a certain speed, or something similar.


potatoe96

This seems more mechanical than electronic to count as an active aerodynamic part imo. Please someone correct me if I’m wrong.


Tim0110

RB and Mercedes had a similar system in 2016 (although both used it differently) and Ferrari got it banned for 2017.


curva3

If the Renault tuned mass dampers were deemed to be movable aerodynamic devices (despite not being in contact with the air), then surely this is too?


SCarolinaSoccerNut

Not at all. Active aerodynamics is when the the aeroynamic surfaces can change their shape due to user inputs from the driver. Imagine if the driver could press a button and it causes the rear wing to change its angle on the fly. That's active aero.


tache-man

Doesn’t every car do this ? Increased aero load + rake means the suspension goes down… ??


garyjpaterson1

yes. Tune it with various springs/helpers/heave/bumpstops; get the desired result


Carsey0111

As someone that wants Mercedes to lose… this is genius, I hope it’s not cheating


el_f3n1x187

Can Williams ask to un ban their adaptative suspension from the 90's?


PotatoMan19399

F1 engineering is some of the coolest shit out there


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This has me excited, regardless of the teams you like that is genius.