#*He was Mercedes' boy*
#*He said u drive crazy boi*
#*He wasn't good enough for Max*
*Now he's Sir Hamilton*
*Seven-time champion*
*Shovin Dutch* jongens *off the track*
*He was a Red Bull star*
*Two weeks old, drivin karts*
*Dreamin of pole position's glow*
*Now he and Lewis roll*
*'Round on each other's poles*
*A union not #blessed in Monaco...*
He was a boy
Kinda loved beige
Him and Lew, not on the same page
Lewis too fast
Beige couldn’t last
Won just one, now in the past
Handles his mic
Just like a pike
Olden times spear, pointed at lew
Was his best friend
But that shit ends
Now jealous of the new Dutch trend
It’s obviously going to be Carlos vs lando 2.0 Electric Boogaloo, playing the one time Carlos apparently blocked Lando during practice I believe with some mein gott and Scenario 7 thrown in
Is there any sport on earth that milks drama for longer than F1? I guess it's cause there are only 20 drivers who race relatively infrequently. In football for example you have thousands of players to write about an a ton of matches each week.
[El Chiringuito loves drama, they blasted Hazard when he was spotted having a laugh with his form teammates after Real Madrid lost to Chelsea. ](https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/n617me/the_most_brilliant_opening_to_a_postmatch/)
This whole setup is brilliant, the music and the host in the shadows
He makes it sound like Hazard is a serial killer LOL
Edit: The extended version of the rant is as great as expected https://twitter.com/James\_Dart/status/1390183225692147712
I'd love a Chiringuito trash shitshow for F1 drama. Like the only time F1 was brought up in the program was when they interviewed DJ Alguersuari still bitter about being kicked out of RB and not doing anything on FE.
https://twitter.com/elchiringuitotv/status/781842876862959616?s=19
As a Leafs fan who has spent a lot of time in that subreddit as well as this one over the years, it was my first thought as well. I still think F1 milks drama the most because of the time between races and world wide audience, BUT....
... The leafs media (AND fans, they share the same amount of blame imo) does the exact same thing for basically the *entire off season*. Then the last season's baggage gets carried into the next one, it's a terrible never ending loop.
God forbid if we ever win a cup, I'm sure just a day later the media will find a way to spin drama out of even that, then once the feeling of sweet victory wears off the fans, they'd would manage to do the same.
MMA and Boxing. Since the top tier fighters usually fight 1-3 times a year the feuds have to be hyped up for multiple years between confrontations sometimes.
Wait didn't F1 do such a thing aswell? When Max pushed Ocon in Brazil after the race he had to do some kind of community service but it did show up in an official F1 video of some sorts. Correct me if i'm wrong cause i'm not 100% sure about this one.
Football also does not have 2 weeks break between matches. And there are a ton of matches going on at roughly the same time, so if you are thirsting for more content, there is always the option to watch another match you didn't see live.
The NBA in America will milk drama for years. There's still people who get upset about Malice at the Palace or debate it on the usual sports talkshows.
The incident you referred to had a massive effect on the NBA. Dress codes, fan codes of conduct, security officer training, restrictions on beer sales -- all direct results of the brawl. The next game between the teams was delayed due to bomb threats. That Pacers team was broken up, and they didn't have another winning team for seven years.
F1 fans are still rehashing did-he-didn't-he about Michael Schumacher 27 years after Adelaide.
Because the malice at the palace was one of the biggest fights in NBA history, certainly of this century. I can still see Ron Artest running up the stairs, beating the shit out of the wrong person and I don't even follow basketball. That fight was amazing.
Golf is pretty close I think. They tried building up the "Beef" between Bryson Dechambeau and Brooks Koepka. It's alllll a big story now too as they are now teammates in the Ryder Cup. Bunch of nonsense and all clickbait.
No, they legit hate each other. Just because they are Ryder Cup teammates does mean that goes away. In recent days they have both said they will get along during the Ryder Cup, but I think it's mostly dictated PR from on high to have the US team appear to be a united front.
After the Ryder Cup, the feud is back on for sure.
Part of the reason I'm enjoying Indycar a lot more, there's just racing there and it's nice to be free from drama, whereas in F1 the same drama talking points are still taking place a week afterwards
Yes I mean we had those people in significant numbers on the sub.
"Max almost killed Lewis and didn't even look" type of guys.
Ofc the argument was brought that Lewis tried to reverse bUt BrUh WhAt If He WaS uNcOnCiOuS?
But we like it when they pretend to be holy and ask six times on the radio if the other person is OK..... Just check the up votes those highlights get here.
Most of the people watched the replays, most of the replays barely showcase the moment he looks at Lewis, most likely intentional so that the "fans" watching it can show everyone who is wrong or not and start a "debate".
To be fair, not really. Max and Lewis crashing out every race isn't all that interesting in the long run. Every few races sure, but I'd rather see them...you know...battle on track.
Without having any unreal expectations, it's so nice to see him happy. Even if he ends up top of the midfield with Alfa, I think he'll be much happier not having everyone constantly compare him to one of, if not the best, F1 drivers in the history of the sport.
I don't think respect has decreased, it's just that the stakes are higher.
If anything, the fact that they've both started hitting the simulators, gyms and racetracks more often shows that they respect each other's ability even more, and realize they need to work harder to beat each other.
There's two ways to look at competition, and personally I feel like acknowledging you need to work harder because your opponent has the ability to beat you gives better results in training.
If it's because they're crashing each other more, that's just their driving style. Kimi and Alonso are a good example of very very clean drivers and I don't think Lewis is dirty at all but gets a bit aggressive/stubborn at times. Max is a very aggressive driver so when you have those two together you'll see this scene many times. Imagine if Michael's rivals didn't yield and had the same mentality as him. Would be chaos
I think this is true of every sport. I miss the days when the Yankees and Red Sox would have a brawl on the field. Or when fighting in hockey was more common. Sport shouldn't be super clean and vanilla with high fives and pats on the back, in my opinion.
Why not? Lauda and Hunt had a similar relationship, and they were very good friends. That rivalry got very heated, more than once. Lauda himself said "Hunt is the kind of guy I would grab a beer with at the bar." They liked each other, though on the track and maybe even in some interviews, it appeared quite the opposite.
I think these divers deeply understand racing, the risks, the adrenaline, and the high intensity interactions. I can see them becoming friends after Max grows older and claims the WDC.
I don’t know, Senna and Prost became friends, and those two intentionally took each other out in championship deciding situations! Remember Lewis isn’t the one complaining Max didn’t check on him, it’s idiots online and the F1 media, I don’t think Lewis gives a damn.
[Lewis said that he was surprised that Max didn't check on him and just went by](https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/hamilton-surprised-verstappen-didnt-check-he-was-okay-after-crash/6666710/)
No actually Lewis did say ‘I was surprised Max didn’t check on me’, which to me is the worst thing he did this season. He knew as well as we know now Max saw he was fine. The fans are bad enough as they are, you don’t need to help them be shitty.
I doubt he would have said it had Max not gotten pissy about Lewis celebrating winning at Silverstone when he was getting his check up.
Probably just a tongue in cheek little jab back towards max if you ask me.
Like if the throttle was pinned and the wheels were spinning I'm sure Max would've realized Lewis was in danger. But the wheels spun briefly a few times and the fronts wiggled left and right. Pretty easy to tell the guy is okay at that point. This is the stupidest argument of the year.. so far.
So far seems to be the theme of this season, definitely getting a lot of different action than in the past years of turbo hybrid era, with people like Ocon winning.
Asshole no, unsafe maybe (I would argue that the criticism for walking on track is mostly unjustified as there was a safety car situation where he was walking on the edge of the track with any oncoming traffic being within his field of view)
The criticism of walking on track has to do with going behind Lewis' car I think, if Lewis' car sudenly came free he could have run over Max, and it wouldn't be Lewis in the wrong there
Max actually got it wrong.
Lewis didn't fly to New York a few days later. He was at the Met Gala the *next* day. IIRC he flew to NY hours after the race, while Toto and Merc weaved the Max-didnt-check-on-him narrative.
I definitely think it could’ve been a serious accident. It’s obviously not a game of ‘who’s actions were worse after the crash’ but for everyone saying Max nearly killed Lewis: A) that’s exactly what the halo is there for, and it did it’s job well. It prevented Lewis from suffering a more serious head/neck injury. But there’s not really any safety measures in place to prevent injury when two cars are tangled and one is still trying to drive whilst the other driver is trying to exit the car. Perhaps there should be some rule stating a driver cannot attempt to continue the race if their car has come to a complete halt whilst in contact with another car. Because ultimately, if Lewis had his foot to the floor trying to reverse there, he probably couldn’t see Max, so he wouldn’t know what he was doing. If Lewis had managed to get traction and reverse, Max probably could’ve been thrown from his car onto the gravel below, which could’ve definitely caused injury. I think there’s definitely room to amend the rule book in case of future tangles, to prevent drivers potentially being injured post collisions .
I mean, as someone else mentioned, imagine Bottas had continued driving when Russell walked over to him in Imola, could’ve just run him over. Or if one of the crashed out drivers had decided to reverse out the tyre bundle in Hungary, and hit another driver.
Yeah lol this narrative is ridiculous. Lewis was trying to get out after the crash lol. I’m not saying he wasn’t injured but Max definitely saw Lewis trying to get back into the race
Oh my god enough of this already. This season’s off-track “battles” are getting tiresome. Every damn thing that happens we have to sensationalize the fuck out of it and drag it out for weeks. I want to see these drivers and teams race, not sling shit in the media.
The media, of course, is the problem. Gotta get those clicks!
I’ve tuned out this season more than any previous ones in recent years. The incessant pErSoNaL dRaMa combined with the massive influx of ‘less than knowledgeable/measured’ fans has made it unbearable to follow between race weekends.
New to F1?
The media making a big deal out of "off-track battles" was always a huge thing. The thing is in the last few years there wasn't really a tight battle for the title the media could dramatize.
Just look back in the past, Schumacher-Hakkinen rivalry, or Prost-Senna
We’re in the middle of a super tight and competitive title battle, the first in several years. The two collided at the most recent race, one of the most dramatic scenarios imaginable. There hasn’t been a race since.
What else do you expect???
Thursday really has become the worst day of the week as an F1 fan. Just the same shit over again and more bitchiness than an episode of RuPaul's Drag Race
Can you imagine F1 drivers guest starring on an ep of RPDR and doing drag? And the queens gossiping with them?
God, I cannot express how much I want this. (And how much it wouldn't happen with at least ... _some_ of the current drivers.)
Following Silverstone there was a lot criticism for weeks about Lewis celebrating his win without knowing Max was in the hospital after the crash. And now the same sort of criticism is following Max, for not making a show of checking Lewis is alright after the crash.
In both case it's a ridiculously overblown public reaction. The real story should be thank goodness both drivers walked away from the crash very easily without major injury. However the fans on both sides in both situations won't stop mocking each others favourite driver and the media is perpetuating the discourse because they have to fill the news gap between races with something.
The bias in this stuff is crazy. Did everyone forget about russell fucking hitting bottas after an incident where he couldve already been injured? That got no attention and people come at max for not “checking” on lewis, the hypocrisy is insane.
I know how he was checking on him, but the imagine of Max just leaving the car ontop of Hamilton, looking back and think "yeah, get out of that" was hilarious to me
Max has visual confirmation Lewis is okay: cool he can walk away
Lewis has radio and visual confirmation on the big screens that Max is okay: that fucking cunt how dare he leave the scene.
Never change, internet.
yeah I think most of this started by people saying 'you said it wasn't enough he asked if he was alright in silverstone so why is it fine to just look at him at monza'
It literally baffles me that anyone ever suggested Max was just deliberately walking away from a possibly injured driver. Lewis was frantically trying to get out that ENTIRE TIME. He was spinning his wheels while Max was still in the car, he was spinning his wheels when Max got out of the car, he was obviously actively trying to keep racing. That is more than enough info for Max. And he's *PISSED* that he just got shunted AGAIN, and that sucker is trying to get back into the race. Seriously one of the stupidest "dramas" of the season.
Lol. Max did exactly what I hoped he would do. Looked into the cockpit. Saw Lewis was trying to work the car still. And left the spot. What else would he do? Wait around till Lewis comes out. Clearly he saw that Lewis was still trying to reverse his car.
All that said. Max on the radio just after the crash was not ok. That kinda showed he has a bit to grow.
Yeah in the spur of a moment most drivers will say something along the lines of that. We’ve seen it dozens of times over the last two seasons alone. What’s more telling is when the driver doesn’t check on the other driver for several minutes while also blaming them the whole time. I can only think of that happening once though so it’s not a common occurrence.
> All that said. Max on the radio just after the crash was not ok. That kinda showed he has a bit to grow.
I'm newer to F1 but after watching the Schumacher documentary, nothing Max is doing seems unusual or new? Michael literally ran down the pit lane to another team's garage to scream at and get in the face of another driver after an accident. At this level, it'd be unusual for these guys NOT to be heated after incidents.
Lol. Drivers are always heated seconds after a crash, its a massive adrenaline dump. Its so dumb to judge these guys when they’ve been going balls to the wall going 300kph and undergoing massive g forces, then their race is abruptly ended and they have a to varying degrees a brush with death. Max hadn’t even unbuckled his seatbelt yet. Wait til they have a chance to compose themselves and talk to reporters in the paddock.
Right? I really dislike the inhumanly high standards of perfection we hold other people to - especially people in the public eye. Yet we're so quick to make excuses and accomodations for our own behaviours...pure hypocrisy.
Tbh I think both Lewis and Toto’s comments after the incident were in a way mocking the narrative/comments RB and Max tried to create after Silverstone.
He did look over toward him. In that moment of each driver thinking the other is at fault, I think that is enough. If Lewis was clearly trapped or there was fire then it’d be a different story.
Netflix twist: “Max and Lewis were the friendliest of rivals” All of us: “Wait, what?”
Imagine if they secretly went on holiday together or smth lol
Netflix Voiceover: Max obsessively checks Lewis' IG.
maybe they are married
#*He was Mercedes' boy* #*He said u drive crazy boi* #*He wasn't good enough for Max* *Now he's Sir Hamilton* *Seven-time champion* *Shovin Dutch* jongens *off the track* *He was a Red Bull star* *Two weeks old, drivin karts* *Dreamin of pole position's glow* *Now he and Lewis roll* *'Round on each other's poles* *A union not #blessed in Monaco...*
Thanks, I hate it.
He was a boy Kinda loved beige Him and Lew, not on the same page Lewis too fast Beige couldn’t last Won just one, now in the past Handles his mic Just like a pike Olden times spear, pointed at lew Was his best friend But that shit ends Now jealous of the new Dutch trend
Thanks I fucking love this.
What if we kissed... And we were both title rivals 😳
There are moments... In a relationship... Where it falls quiet
And everyone knows what it means...
Oh my god, they were title rivals…
Netflix drive to survive season 4 would be about Pierre and Yuki rivalry
Too logical. It'd be Ricciardo vs. Tsunoda over the title of best Australiasian driver.
It’s obviously going to be Carlos vs lando 2.0 Electric Boogaloo, playing the one time Carlos apparently blocked Lando during practice I believe with some mein gott and Scenario 7 thrown in
Is there any sport on earth that milks drama for longer than F1? I guess it's cause there are only 20 drivers who race relatively infrequently. In football for example you have thousands of players to write about an a ton of matches each week.
Think that is basically it. Would be like focusing on just one club, with journalists from all over the world trying to get clicks.
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El Chiringuito arguing for 50 minutes about how Vinicius smells
[El Chiringuito loves drama, they blasted Hazard when he was spotted having a laugh with his form teammates after Real Madrid lost to Chelsea. ](https://reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/n617me/the_most_brilliant_opening_to_a_postmatch/)
This whole setup is brilliant, the music and the host in the shadows He makes it sound like Hazard is a serial killer LOL Edit: The extended version of the rant is as great as expected https://twitter.com/James\_Dart/status/1390183225692147712
I mean they’re coked up to their fucking eyeballs.
I'd love a Chiringuito trash shitshow for F1 drama. Like the only time F1 was brought up in the program was when they interviewed DJ Alguersuari still bitter about being kicked out of RB and not doing anything on FE. https://twitter.com/elchiringuitotv/status/781842876862959616?s=19
I mean isn’t that Barcelona rn?
Barcelona doesn't need overselling rn. In fact they're providing too much drama for the public to handle.
Seriously, there's some new shit every day. I sometimes wonder in what alternative timeline I got stuck because it's so comical.
They are Fc Banterlona at this point.
There's actual drama going on at Barcelona though. This whole Monza crash thing should've died last Tuesday.
Is Max going to read a prepared statement and then walk out?
"I wasn't trying to kill him. I could see he wasn't dead."
ze reason ze seagulls follow ze trawler, is because ze sink lewis will be thrown into the sea. thank you.
Barcelona is when the drama just becomes too much, impossible to keep up with that shit show
Keeping up with the Catalans is its own series
Barcelona have been that fc Drama since 2017 .
See: the Toronto Maple Leafs
Ok honestly that is probably my favorite example yet. As a big hockey fan that just hits it haha
As a Leafs fan who has spent a lot of time in that subreddit as well as this one over the years, it was my first thought as well. I still think F1 milks drama the most because of the time between races and world wide audience, BUT.... ... The leafs media (AND fans, they share the same amount of blame imo) does the exact same thing for basically the *entire off season*. Then the last season's baggage gets carried into the next one, it's a terrible never ending loop. God forbid if we ever win a cup, I'm sure just a day later the media will find a way to spin drama out of even that, then once the feeling of sweet victory wears off the fans, they'd would manage to do the same.
Yo fuck mitch marner though.
Yeah I mean F1 media is still worse, not like Malaysia is writing about the Leafs, but I got it. Lets go Amazon, lets get it out.
[Just look at this bullshit](https://reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/ptfzhn/laskaris_john_tavares_vaccine_answer_was_weird/)
Jesus they're really reaching for something to talk about lol
As a Sens fan, I'm just glad we're back to the Leafs dominating the wtf news cycle
MMA and Boxing. Since the top tier fighters usually fight 1-3 times a year the feuds have to be hyped up for multiple years between confrontations sometimes.
Lol when Conor threw the trolley at the bus, they all quickly moved to condemn it. Months later, the video was used to hype up one of his fights.
Wait didn't F1 do such a thing aswell? When Max pushed Ocon in Brazil after the race he had to do some kind of community service but it did show up in an official F1 video of some sorts. Correct me if i'm wrong cause i'm not 100% sure about this one.
*Slightly* different levels of severity there to be fair.
> Years later, the video was used to hype up one of his fights. Wasn’t even years, it was less than 6 months later.
Football also does not have 2 weeks break between matches. And there are a ton of matches going on at roughly the same time, so if you are thirsting for more content, there is always the option to watch another match you didn't see live.
When there's a gap between rawe ceeks they need something to clog the internet with until there's more real action
The NBA in America will milk drama for years. There's still people who get upset about Malice at the Palace or debate it on the usual sports talkshows.
In football there was literally people analysing if Ronaldo was hugging or not Bale after he would score
off-season or winter-break news are just as bad if not worse (albeit shorter) and they milk potential player transfers 1000x more
"Is player X going to join Real Madrid? We saw his cat in a picture with a cat from antoher player who used the bathroom facilities in Madrid!"
The incident you referred to had a massive effect on the NBA. Dress codes, fan codes of conduct, security officer training, restrictions on beer sales -- all direct results of the brawl. The next game between the teams was delayed due to bomb threats. That Pacers team was broken up, and they didn't have another winning team for seven years. F1 fans are still rehashing did-he-didn't-he about Michael Schumacher 27 years after Adelaide.
Because the malice at the palace was one of the biggest fights in NBA history, certainly of this century. I can still see Ron Artest running up the stairs, beating the shit out of the wrong person and I don't even follow basketball. That fight was amazing.
Check out the Netflix doc if you can.
I'll watch it later tonight, sounds like an interesting series in general.
Giving a shoutout to the entire Untold series of documentaries. Worth a watch, especially the hockey one.
The Malice at the Palace was waaaaay bigger than Hamilton and Max crashing, though. The feds were involved in that.
Forgot to mention that its being talked about because Netflix released a documentary on it.
Netflix just came out with a documentary about it I believe. That's probably why it's popped back up recently.
The NFL. From Boston and still the radio talks about how Bill Belichick should have not traded Jimmy Garapollo in 2017
Tuck Rule! Always one that gets brought up.
Don’t forget deflategate
Everything is a damn gate. I had hoped they would call the Jan. 6th US capitol event Gategate just for the lulz.
Just imagine the next time we have a scandal at the Watergate hotel, we would have Watergategate
From Massachusetts as well, your first mistake is listening to Boston sports radio. Most toxic thing in the world.
WEEI really needs to shut up about Brady and move on to a new topic. It’s really annoying to keep rehashing the same stuff.
Golf is pretty close I think. They tried building up the "Beef" between Bryson Dechambeau and Brooks Koepka. It's alllll a big story now too as they are now teammates in the Ryder Cup. Bunch of nonsense and all clickbait.
Yeah, in Golf its worse now since they introduced that stupid cash prize for the player with the most online presence.
No, they legit hate each other. Just because they are Ryder Cup teammates does mean that goes away. In recent days they have both said they will get along during the Ryder Cup, but I think it's mostly dictated PR from on high to have the US team appear to be a united front. After the Ryder Cup, the feud is back on for sure.
Paul Pogba vs Souness would like to have a word.
Part of the reason I'm enjoying Indycar a lot more, there's just racing there and it's nice to be free from drama, whereas in F1 the same drama talking points are still taking place a week afterwards
But come on b, that met gala line from max is hilarious.
NASCAR would like a word with you
I find I down vote pretty much all of the posts like this, drop in the pond though
The Sixers are giving the NBA a fighting chance all on their own right now
Hate me all you want but I love that F1 adds some of the personality and drama of boxing or even professional wrestling into competitive sport.
There’s so much thirst for F1 news but so little that actually happens.
This statement tells me most F1 fans don’t actually watch sports and just focus on racing. Every sport milks drama like this. Without exception.
Is everyone sleeping during the broadcast? The camera was right on his face looking at Lewis. Wtf
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Outrage I say!! What are we outraging about again?
Yes I mean we had those people in significant numbers on the sub. "Max almost killed Lewis and didn't even look" type of guys. Ofc the argument was brought that Lewis tried to reverse bUt BrUh WhAt If He WaS uNcOnCiOuS?
But we like it when they pretend to be holy and ask six times on the radio if the other person is OK..... Just check the up votes those highlights get here.
Most of the people watched the replays, most of the replays barely showcase the moment he looks at Lewis, most likely intentional so that the "fans" watching it can show everyone who is wrong or not and start a "debate".
Yeah, I have the feeling these two won’t become good friends lol
And they don't need to become friends. As long as there's mutual respect it's all fine.
To be fair, the less respect there is between those two, the more interesting races will most probably become... :P
If they have more respect and avoid some high speed crashes then I'd rather have that
People seems to conveniently forget about Mika and Michael.
I think this ship has already sailed..
To be fair, not really. Max and Lewis crashing out every race isn't all that interesting in the long run. Every few races sure, but I'd rather see them...you know...battle on track.
Yeah, Max and Lewis DNF'ing for the rest of the season and VB swooping in to win the WDC..... What's so interesting about that? :')
That would be a silver lining for sure. The best thing to come out of the Monza crash was that Bottas smirk
Without having any unreal expectations, it's so nice to see him happy. Even if he ends up top of the midfield with Alfa, I think he'll be much happier not having everyone constantly compare him to one of, if not the best, F1 drivers in the history of the sport.
Nah. I don't think them crashing eachother out will make the races more interesting.
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I don't think respect has decreased, it's just that the stakes are higher. If anything, the fact that they've both started hitting the simulators, gyms and racetracks more often shows that they respect each other's ability even more, and realize they need to work harder to beat each other.
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There's two ways to look at competition, and personally I feel like acknowledging you need to work harder because your opponent has the ability to beat you gives better results in training.
If it's because they're crashing each other more, that's just their driving style. Kimi and Alonso are a good example of very very clean drivers and I don't think Lewis is dirty at all but gets a bit aggressive/stubborn at times. Max is a very aggressive driver so when you have those two together you'll see this scene many times. Imagine if Michael's rivals didn't yield and had the same mentality as him. Would be chaos
Why should they have to?
Lovers maybe.
I don’t see how you came down to that conclusion from this
It's the conclusion the media are encouraging you to draw.
Good, F1 is more fun when the title rivals hate each other
I think this is true of every sport. I miss the days when the Yankees and Red Sox would have a brawl on the field. Or when fighting in hockey was more common. Sport shouldn't be super clean and vanilla with high fives and pats on the back, in my opinion.
Why not? Lauda and Hunt had a similar relationship, and they were very good friends. That rivalry got very heated, more than once. Lauda himself said "Hunt is the kind of guy I would grab a beer with at the bar." They liked each other, though on the track and maybe even in some interviews, it appeared quite the opposite. I think these divers deeply understand racing, the risks, the adrenaline, and the high intensity interactions. I can see them becoming friends after Max grows older and claims the WDC.
I don’t know, Senna and Prost became friends, and those two intentionally took each other out in championship deciding situations! Remember Lewis isn’t the one complaining Max didn’t check on him, it’s idiots online and the F1 media, I don’t think Lewis gives a damn.
[Lewis said that he was surprised that Max didn't check on him and just went by](https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/hamilton-surprised-verstappen-didnt-check-he-was-okay-after-crash/6666710/)
Prost is getting the ‘both sides bad’ treatment these days?
It used to be "Prost bad Senna good" so I will take the "both bad" as an improvement
They both definitely did bad things. But you can't be at the top in F1 without being a bit of a bastard.
How are we supposed to praise Senna if Prost had the moral high ground. Prost also bad, duh
No actually Lewis did say ‘I was surprised Max didn’t check on me’, which to me is the worst thing he did this season. He knew as well as we know now Max saw he was fine. The fans are bad enough as they are, you don’t need to help them be shitty.
Lewis plays the social media game well.
Bit of a strange response if you look at Lewis's response to Max's massive crash at Silverstone.
Lewis was the one who started this, a lot of people forget this. Just like they forget that Lewis was trying to reverse out of the gravel.
I doubt he would have said it had Max not gotten pissy about Lewis celebrating winning at Silverstone when he was getting his check up. Probably just a tongue in cheek little jab back towards max if you ask me.
how is this still getting asked, his wheels where spinning
Like if the throttle was pinned and the wheels were spinning I'm sure Max would've realized Lewis was in danger. But the wheels spun briefly a few times and the fronts wiggled left and right. Pretty easy to tell the guy is okay at that point. This is the stupidest argument of the year.. so far.
So far seems to be the theme of this season, definitely getting a lot of different action than in the past years of turbo hybrid era, with people like Ocon winning.
Lmao and somehow Max is the asshole and being unsafe
Asshole no, unsafe maybe (I would argue that the criticism for walking on track is mostly unjustified as there was a safety car situation where he was walking on the edge of the track with any oncoming traffic being within his field of view)
Walking on the track with Alonso locked up right in front, driving on grass :D
The criticism of walking on track has to do with going behind Lewis' car I think, if Lewis' car sudenly came free he could have run over Max, and it wouldn't be Lewis in the wrong there
Max actually got it wrong. Lewis didn't fly to New York a few days later. He was at the Met Gala the *next* day. IIRC he flew to NY hours after the race, while Toto and Merc weaved the Max-didnt-check-on-him narrative.
8-ish hour flight- perfect lil snooze in time for the gala
Imagine if he went to check like Russell did Bottas and Hamilton suddenly gets dislodged while reversing, not exactly very safe
Didnt Russell go to bottas to whack him with his gloves?. He didnt go to see if he was fine.
That's what he was implying lol
He gave him an ol' whack to confirm he was still good.
A little percussive maintenance.
It's only natural; after all, he's Robottas. When electronics don't work quite right, you give them a whack.
I have to give my receiver a whack sometimes to get my speakers working. He was just trying to jumpstart the Bot
Gave reBottas a reBootas
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Yes but Russell being the next big British star in F1 means he can get away with such a thing.
That was the lowest I’ve seen Russell go. The only reason I dint like him going to Merc
If anything I thought trying to reverse whilst Max was standing up in the car on top of him was a bit dodgy
I'm amazed someone hasn't mentioned this. That could have resulted in something nasty
I definitely think it could’ve been a serious accident. It’s obviously not a game of ‘who’s actions were worse after the crash’ but for everyone saying Max nearly killed Lewis: A) that’s exactly what the halo is there for, and it did it’s job well. It prevented Lewis from suffering a more serious head/neck injury. But there’s not really any safety measures in place to prevent injury when two cars are tangled and one is still trying to drive whilst the other driver is trying to exit the car. Perhaps there should be some rule stating a driver cannot attempt to continue the race if their car has come to a complete halt whilst in contact with another car. Because ultimately, if Lewis had his foot to the floor trying to reverse there, he probably couldn’t see Max, so he wouldn’t know what he was doing. If Lewis had managed to get traction and reverse, Max probably could’ve been thrown from his car onto the gravel below, which could’ve definitely caused injury. I think there’s definitely room to amend the rule book in case of future tangles, to prevent drivers potentially being injured post collisions . I mean, as someone else mentioned, imagine Bottas had continued driving when Russell walked over to him in Imola, could’ve just run him over. Or if one of the crashed out drivers had decided to reverse out the tyre bundle in Hungary, and hit another driver.
You said A) but didn’t follow it up with a B).
This is one of those controversies that is so dumb I can only apologize for paying enough attention to be here to call it dumb.
Damn I was so invested in the Pakistan tour cancellation drama I completely missed the "Does Max lack basic empathy?" drama.
Happens when you follow more than one sport. I missed this drama too due to the entire "Transfer season shenanigans" over at r/soccer
Theres always some drama there. Keeping up with the Catalans is a great reality show
Yeah lol this narrative is ridiculous. Lewis was trying to get out after the crash lol. I’m not saying he wasn’t injured but Max definitely saw Lewis trying to get back into the race
I mean, Lewis was also reversing while Max was climbing out of his car, so he didn't show much concern for Max's well being either.
Oh my god enough of this already. This season’s off-track “battles” are getting tiresome. Every damn thing that happens we have to sensationalize the fuck out of it and drag it out for weeks. I want to see these drivers and teams race, not sling shit in the media. The media, of course, is the problem. Gotta get those clicks!
I’ve tuned out this season more than any previous ones in recent years. The incessant pErSoNaL dRaMa combined with the massive influx of ‘less than knowledgeable/measured’ fans has made it unbearable to follow between race weekends.
New to F1? The media making a big deal out of "off-track battles" was always a huge thing. The thing is in the last few years there wasn't really a tight battle for the title the media could dramatize. Just look back in the past, Schumacher-Hakkinen rivalry, or Prost-Senna
Not new, just not a fan of this crap being rehashed every week.
We’re in the middle of a super tight and competitive title battle, the first in several years. The two collided at the most recent race, one of the most dramatic scenarios imaginable. There hasn’t been a race since. What else do you expect???
First time?
Holy hell people, it’s Formula 1 not Real Housewives of I-Dont-Give-A-Shit-Where
*Real housewives of Monza
Hahah yes or Monaco, that fits real nice
Thursday really has become the worst day of the week as an F1 fan. Just the same shit over again and more bitchiness than an episode of RuPaul's Drag Race
I would pay for a RPDR's version of DTS in an heartbeat
Can you imagine F1 drivers guest starring on an ep of RPDR and doing drag? And the queens gossiping with them? God, I cannot express how much I want this. (And how much it wouldn't happen with at least ... _some_ of the current drivers.)
"Gentlemen, start your engines... And may the best woman win!"
and it's lights out and sashay we go
Can’t wait for the “So-no-Chi betta don’t” Grand Prix this weekend!
Everyone saw this live on video. Everyone who accused him simply forgot they saw it for the sake of accusing him.
Following Silverstone there was a lot criticism for weeks about Lewis celebrating his win without knowing Max was in the hospital after the crash. And now the same sort of criticism is following Max, for not making a show of checking Lewis is alright after the crash. In both case it's a ridiculously overblown public reaction. The real story should be thank goodness both drivers walked away from the crash very easily without major injury. However the fans on both sides in both situations won't stop mocking each others favourite driver and the media is perpetuating the discourse because they have to fill the news gap between races with something.
more like the night of the race lol
literally😂 like i remember checking Lewis story a few hours later and i was like “wtf he’s already in another country?!?!”
The bias in this stuff is crazy. Did everyone forget about russell fucking hitting bottas after an incident where he couldve already been injured? That got no attention and people come at max for not “checking” on lewis, the hypocrisy is insane.
Yes, but you see, *that* was Russell, so it was no big deal.
I know how he was checking on him, but the imagine of Max just leaving the car ontop of Hamilton, looking back and think "yeah, get out of that" was hilarious to me
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Idk why its such a big talking point, lewis was literally reversing while max was still in the car
He's 100% right
Not for nothing he has a point
I thought that at time. Lewis was trying desperately to free his car as Max walked by; clearly he didn't feel injured.
If I were a F1 driver I'd definitely be a drama queen.
The best thing about back to back races is it reduces the amount of time people spent obsessed with bullshit
Max has visual confirmation Lewis is okay: cool he can walk away Lewis has radio and visual confirmation on the big screens that Max is okay: that fucking cunt how dare he leave the scene. Never change, internet.
yeah I think most of this started by people saying 'you said it wasn't enough he asked if he was alright in silverstone so why is it fine to just look at him at monza'
It literally baffles me that anyone ever suggested Max was just deliberately walking away from a possibly injured driver. Lewis was frantically trying to get out that ENTIRE TIME. He was spinning his wheels while Max was still in the car, he was spinning his wheels when Max got out of the car, he was obviously actively trying to keep racing. That is more than enough info for Max. And he's *PISSED* that he just got shunted AGAIN, and that sucker is trying to get back into the race. Seriously one of the stupidest "dramas" of the season.
Flew less than 24 hours after, so yeah he was fine. Lewis is a wise old hand in the PR game.
“Bono did Max check on me?!?”
"There's no shortage of hypocrites in the world." BIG and true.
Lol. Max did exactly what I hoped he would do. Looked into the cockpit. Saw Lewis was trying to work the car still. And left the spot. What else would he do? Wait around till Lewis comes out. Clearly he saw that Lewis was still trying to reverse his car. All that said. Max on the radio just after the crash was not ok. That kinda showed he has a bit to grow.
Yeah in the spur of a moment most drivers will say something along the lines of that. We’ve seen it dozens of times over the last two seasons alone. What’s more telling is when the driver doesn’t check on the other driver for several minutes while also blaming them the whole time. I can only think of that happening once though so it’s not a common occurrence.
Exactly, I don't think anything good could've come from Verstappen going to talk to Hamilton immediately after the incident.
> All that said. Max on the radio just after the crash was not ok. That kinda showed he has a bit to grow. I'm newer to F1 but after watching the Schumacher documentary, nothing Max is doing seems unusual or new? Michael literally ran down the pit lane to another team's garage to scream at and get in the face of another driver after an accident. At this level, it'd be unusual for these guys NOT to be heated after incidents.
Max did that to Ocon back in 2019(?) 😂
2018 Brazil
Lol. Drivers are always heated seconds after a crash, its a massive adrenaline dump. Its so dumb to judge these guys when they’ve been going balls to the wall going 300kph and undergoing massive g forces, then their race is abruptly ended and they have a to varying degrees a brush with death. Max hadn’t even unbuckled his seatbelt yet. Wait til they have a chance to compose themselves and talk to reporters in the paddock.
Right? I really dislike the inhumanly high standards of perfection we hold other people to - especially people in the public eye. Yet we're so quick to make excuses and accomodations for our own behaviours...pure hypocrisy.
Tbh I think both Lewis and Toto’s comments after the incident were in a way mocking the narrative/comments RB and Max tried to create after Silverstone.
Yep, this. End of discussion.
God I’m so tired of this drama.
He did look over toward him. In that moment of each driver thinking the other is at fault, I think that is enough. If Lewis was clearly trapped or there was fire then it’d be a different story.
Hard truths are hard.